well hope you guys dont mind my 2 cents worth :-

i think 1vs1 offers hardcore micromanagement, whereas 2vs2 offers diverse battle tactics. this depends on the players experience. Both however is enjoyable to watch. It would also be nice to see other win trigger games such as Take and Hold and etc.

Reading other DOW forums and watching the E3 movie on WA, i think the IG will be the race to take down the Eldar (bad news for Eldar fans). I guess this will end all the shouting of Eldar being OP.


wanted to ask you guys if WA would have a new cool intro movie like the awesome intro movie in DOW?

another thing, is there anyone creating custom maps for DOW?









All Eldar Must Answer The Call

Any ideas what the intro might be like, cause i just loved the intro to DOW. It was beautiful, i was just to see it.



For 1v1 this is so true when it comes to larger maps with diff win triggers but this multiple war tactics only are seen from expert players who have learned to deploy diff. tactics to dominate his/her enemy.



1v1 doesnt really go your way eventhough you have managed your army and resources well. I was playing against a guy who would continually harass my army, SPs and was able to do hit and run tactics at my base and my econ was great but his tactics was more superior. As for 2v2, youre right about understanding your teammate. A weak teammate, would normally end up in you fighting the entire enemy team's army.

Well u know what that tactic is so common online. I think ppl dont understand that eldar is suppose to be played like that. this is because the eldar race is so weak when it comes to melee that if a player knew how to micro then damn well, that person could rule the other races. kepp in mind, the eldar race is the specialist army in DOW. Well just my opinion.



I was hoping to see TAU in the expansian but its ok, any new race is better than none. BTW is there anyone out there making maps or mods. just wanted to know if there are custom maps being made by anyone.




If i have offended anyone, sorry dude and dudette


















All Eldar Must Answer The Call

Thats a good question. I really wonder why random was not allowed.


Do you have statistics of the most commonly used race in the tourney? just wondering which race is the most preferred race in the tourney.

Speaking of imbalances, 1.3 really nerfed the Orks to hell. It is really diff. to win battles with Orks. Now especially with the wartrukk rush gone, the Orks tier 2 units are useless as the other races would already have the counters for the wartrukks in masses.

the other races i believe, its pretty balanced. SM and Chaos should try not to flame everytime they lose to an Eldar. I believe because the SM and Chaos race tier 2 and tier 3 units will ultimately own all Eldar units after that. Seeing in 1.3, the defilers are now uber strong.

Orks on the other hand dont have a chance to see their tier2 units as they are forced into submission very early into the game. even bringing out Nobz aint gonna help them anymore.

I really hope this balance issue is solved when WA comes out. I really love this game and it would be a shame to see its fan walk away due to these minor problems.



about team changing, i think thats cool cause like King kong said



and thats a beautiful thing this game can offer that other RTS cant.

I agree with H@H@ posting as well but DOW races does have multiple strategies, the problem i feel lies in the fact that the ability for certain races to use their strategies are locked in their tier levels. Allow me to explain if you guys dont mind, lets use a battle between an Ork player and an Eldar player. The Eldar player has the mobility of their race to do specialized and concentrated attacks on the Orks whereas the Orks require their Waaagh to be red before they really cause wrecking damage. The Eldar dominance is at tier 1 till 2 and supported by tier 3(meaning their tier 3 just helps to enforce their hold on the map). The Orks will have to fight it out, to get to tier 3 in which their killakans, leman russ will able to break the eldar's iron grip control on the map. This is where the Orks shine cause in the midst of the chaos, the Orks infantry are able to sweep the area clean with their nobz. So in summary, Eldar will try to keep its enemy down and try not to let their enemy advance up the tier, which if it is not stopped it will guarantee the Eldar's fall. The Orks however really shine in full Waaagh and tier 3. In the 1.3 patch, Orks now mostly get owned very fast thus resulting in an easy kill for the Eldar race. Its in this situations, i would suggest for relic to take a look at the Ork race and rebalance them. I know this upsets a lot of Ork players and also is trouble for tourneys cause that might be a balance problem.

But i would i rather have the tourneys in fixed races as that will show how DOW is superior than other strategy games.(i say this cause i love this game so much). Another reason to have fixed races would really allow players to use multiple different strategies than the same strategy over and over. Fixed races will be so cool for 1vs1.

Fixed races will might not work for 2vs2 because ppl tend to use that which guarantees them victory and most ppl are lazy to think up new ways of defeating their opponents. I think this is because the teams are most likely to combine their army and use the units that will counter the enemies units such as how warp spiders are monsters against Orks.

For the record, DOW still has some balance issues that need to be addressed. I just hope it will be addressed and not ignored cause this is such a good game that totally took strategy games to a higher level. Also hope WA will contain the patches that will once and for all solve this problems and give us endless hours of fun.




Well im hope i didnt offend ayone. if i did im sorry.

Well my friend and i play at dotcom 9 in O.U.G

We kinda go on saturdays and sometimes weekdays(when we can).


Well i nowadays usually play online in segmentum solar.

My friend and i are still looking for local LAN ppl to play with

This post has been edited by Hunt: Jun 29 2005, 12:11 PM

What really sucks is that they removed DOW from the competitions here.




this really bites.

Ravana is a killer player, his advice is one for the books



I totally agree but it would be nice to know that they managed to address the balance issues with WA. It shows that they do care for gamers satisfaction. I just hate the fact that game developers dont care about making games last through the centuries and just concentrate on making more money. I still believe that Relic will do the right thing.



King your comments soothe a burn caused by imbalances.
It is nice to know that tourney organisers take time to allow our opinions show its impact in your decision making. dont take this the wrong way, its a compliment.



Random races in DOW tourneys will be a nice change to the normal " i know what units hand you your armies ass"

Just wondering if anyone knows a good Ork strategy to use online. Just cant hold ground
When i play the other races, i always have a chance to turn the tide but thats not the case with the Orks.
Thought Orks was supposed to be a brutal CC race but every other race seems to kill the Orks like they were butter. By the time i melee with the enemy, i only have a squad with its morale broken. The 1.3patch really blowed the Orks strategy. Im still gonna try to climb the ladder with the Orks


Hope you guys dont mind sharing intell.

Looks like everybody is busy.

I would really like to know some strats from the great warbosses of the Ork race.

once again if you guys dont mind sharing intel.





Note: the 1.3 patch also kills the strat to build the first webway in the start of the game for the eldar. anybody care to comment.

It also looks like the ladder will soon be dominated by Chaos players, thanks to the defilers.

I normally use Chaos or Eldar. My nic online is deville. I normally play around segmentum solar and gates of ......
I love both these races as their strats are much more dynamic than the other 2 races. But i have to agree, once the Eldar gains map control, you might as well say goodbye (this may be an imbalance).

dont like playing the space marines 2 much as i think they are quite uber the moment the reach tier 2 with dreads. you have to have significant econ superiority to outdo them.

trying the Ork race now and its difficult. i mean really difficult. i think my strat is still weak. hehe im just a noob when it comes to watching the X3M guys play.


jitan where ae u from? do u play online? whats your nic online? if you dont mind me asking, how old r u? i ask this because i got my ass kicked by a 17 year old using chaos. that boy was good.

Do you play LAN as well.
maybe we could hook up someday and try to play against each other? i know my ass is gonna be handed back to me on a plate, if youre a damn good warboss.



One more thing, i wanted to ask you guys, if anyone seems to be facing the problem where the game reboots the machine while playing some time (15 mins interval)
I will post the error message that windows logs into the event viewer the next time. This certainly is an ass pincher when youre fighting online and then the game reboots the machine.

I also seem to be facing quite a number of game disconnect. Is this normal or is this caused by gamespy?


another thing check out www.gamespot.com
they keep regular updates on DOW and WA

Johnnycp, what is your online name?.
Well i dont mind playing with anyone. Just want to be able to climb the ladder with other races than Eldar as everyone now screaming that Eldar is OP online.

johnnycp, you sound like youve been playing for quite some time. You throwing me a bone?

well i hope you dont mind me adding your name to my MSN list.
My MSN is a95shooter@hotmail.com







Where can i download this program?





Where do you normally play LAN?. Where do all you guys normally play?

My friend and i normally play at DotCom 9 at OUG and GamesWorld at SS15 on Saturdays. Its just the 2 of us. The other group of my friends love playing LOTR. I hate that game cause of the heroes. Trying to convert them to DOW.




that was my post.
I just wanted to know if anyone knows the answer or solution to this. Need to solve this problem.
The error which is logged in the event viewer for windows says this is a memory violation.

This post has been edited by Hunt: Jul 6 2005, 09:50 AM

Well other games seems to be running well. Im currently playing BattleRealms:Winter of the Wolf, War of the Ring, LOTR:battle for middle earth, Splinter Cell:Chaos Theory and Warhammer40k:Dawn Of War.

This only happens when i play DOW.

Well im gonna reinstall the game
Looks like i dont have any other option.

Anyone else here plays online

Which is your area?.

I dont see the thrill in playing Dota. Just dont see how a strategy game is reduced to a simple hack and slash. well sorry if i crossed any Dota fans

i agree with you. Gamespy is really bad. Its irratating when the game gets disconnected while youre intensely playing it. Besides i had the problem of the game rebooting my machine whenever it likes.

Well King remember you said you knew the dude in GamesWorld.
You said you wouldnt mind talking to him about patching his wonderful original copies. that would actually allow those with slow internet to go down there and wage war, thus resulting in being able to meet other DOW fans as well.


Hope you dont mind asking you a favour, o mighty one of the forest.

Well what would be the price for it, king kong?

When is this due to be out for asian shores.

In malay

The manual in the first one had so many errors, for instance the hot keys behind says when you want your units to run faster press 'delete'.. (yeah right)

Is there any merchandise that will be included with the game, maybe like a small IG painted statue.

just a thought





Note : johnnycp thats a cool gif in your signature. Is that the full cycle or just half of it. Another thing sorry dude i couldnt match up with you the other night, had to pull double shifts. I'll try to match up with you the next time.

I agree. Its better to have the original game cheaper as more ppl will be inclined to buy the ori.

But i would definately and surely would like the game in English and not BM. It would be really weird when my slugga squads screaming " itu dia manusia bintang datang"

i would just cry in sadness.

Well i normally get my games at software boutique at SS2.

SS2 offers quite a variety of games and besides the person there selling the games is quite polite.

Well im not sure about cheap. It seems like the same anywhere else.


Another cheesy line in BM would be " kereta kebal ini buat letupan yang terbesar, waaaagh"

I think i would die laughing, but if they made a local RTS game with the language as BM, it would be interesting.

DOW is made to use english as the TT was created by a brit

i think it might go something like this....

Warrghhh - wahhhhhh


how about these lines.

we are the fastest and the meanest there is - " kitalah yang terpantas dan yang terkejam di sini"


Im tha biggest, so im tha Boss, you listen to me - " Sayalah yang terbesar, jadi sayalah ketua, anda dengar kepada saya"


Nobz are much better than smaller runtier Orks - "Orang hijau besar adalah lagi bagus daripada orang hijau yang kecil dan nakal"


why am i walking - "kenapa saya jalan"

Warrrrrghhh Dakka Dakka Dakka - " Waaaahhhhh tembak tembak tembak"


I think the units will be dead by the time they finish their lines.

This post has been edited by Hunt: Jul 16 2005, 12:23 PM

Well an expansion pack for a game this good, i wouldnt mind. Atleast it will give me a shot at getting into relic.


hehe

Could you help it, that there are such die-hard fans of the game here.