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post Aug 19 2005, 12:45 PM

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Well, the SMs are good for beginners but as you mature in the game, i think the players will have more fun with Orks and CSMs. Eldar will be fun to play once the get re-balanced.

Well thats what i think.


Do u think those newly added Ork units are going to be able to be used by players or just there for show as sometimes games dont get to go that long.
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post Aug 23 2005, 12:27 AM

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man, it looks quite decent balancing to me. Still need to check it out while gaming. One thing for sure, Orks will be able to bring hell to Eldar once again and break the iron grip it has on the online ladder. I think they shouldnt reduce the stormboyz CC damage, they are already weak as it is. sad.gif
I can say that no one will be using stormboyz for combat, they will only be using it to capture SPs which are far away or stealing enemy SPs.

I for one am restless waiting for WA to be released.


johnnycp, what about the IGs.
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post Aug 24 2005, 10:56 AM

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I guess the IG's morale works something like the Orks, unbreakable when they are massed in huge groups or maybe IGs really depend alot on their commanders. Without the commanders, they'll get mowed down.

I think if their morale is ony 100, it justifies for the IGs to have devastating vehicle units.
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post Aug 24 2005, 02:35 PM

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a couple of rockets will finish the job efficiently. smile.gif
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post Aug 26 2005, 02:03 AM

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Well then the war of the artillery would begin. But i think i would lose as IGs looks like they have the longest artillery range.


Its good to know i have drop pods which can bring chaos to the artillery tanks

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post Aug 27 2005, 01:35 AM

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Hey no fair, no calling armies from other game universes. smile.gif
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post Aug 30 2005, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(johnnycp @ Aug 29 2005, 08:06 PM)
If it is RM120++, im not going to support original anymore sad.gif

long live pirated software...
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hehe. If i used to be how i was before i would have supported your notion but i believe that the pirated software industry should just stick to ripping music and not the games as i firmly believe that we can grow our gaming industry here further and better without the hassle the pirated software industry gives to these game developers.

oh yeah!, johnnycp i think you mean cadian shocktroopers. smile.gif
stormtroopers!!!! i thought you trying to call backup from Lord vader. smile.gif


Well im not gonna get 2 excited until i see the changes fro myself when the game gets released. I think its gonna be a long ride. smile.gif

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post Aug 31 2005, 09:28 AM

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Well johnny cp, i agree that darth vader should have been more menacing.


The IG walkers may look the same but the universe is different and i think that there were walkers in the tabletop version of warhammer. so if youre thinking that warhammer ripped the walker from starwars. wrong. its the other way around.


Well king_kong with the release of WA, this thread is gonna flood again. smile.gif
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post Sep 2 2005, 12:15 AM

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OOOOhhhh how i hope and pray that the will be a movie of the Warhammer story of the Horus Heresy.

I think the movie will definately be censored to the max due to the violence.

Well theres always the DVD (pirates).....
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post Sep 3 2005, 12:49 AM

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Well a LAN party was what i wanted to suggest as well. Like a big gathering to introduce the game to the community and mix with other DOW gamers.

really stupid how ppl are addicted to the DOTA crap. i went to WCG to see what all the fuss was about and saw how DOTA was the main theme of the entire event, i was so depressed and sad that malaysians are only keen on money that they sell the integrity of the entire event to make a quick buck. so typical of us asians to do such a thing.

They cancel DOW to insert DOTA into the list of games to be played. whereas the rest of the world has DOW in their list of games to be played.
Why cant for once they realize that DOTA doesnt offer any real skill.

Well, i guess everyone is entitled to their own judgement, opinion and likes. Just feel so annoyed that the ppl which could change the gaming community in our country acting like such clowns.


Well to all who surrender their lifes to the Dark Gods, may WA add more fun hours to our course of extinguishing the flame of the Imperium

*DEATH TO THE FALSE EMPEROR*




Well King_Kong i hope u can pull something for the release of WA. just suggesting.... nothing else...

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post Sep 5 2005, 10:26 AM

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hey come on. You're letting you love for the game be killed because they're not localising it. Well some battles have to be fought to see the cause.

Well i cant change your mind if you've decided that you will abandon the warhammer universe.

just hope you will change your disposition.


Either way, other games are trying to copy DOW gameplay and style.
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post Sep 6 2005, 09:59 AM

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Well i can surely say that regardless if this game was sold for RM 300 i would still buy it as imo there's no other game out there which is able to replicate its gameplay and excellent storyline.

Warhammer's storyline tends to run deep and intricate.


About the Dota issue. First of all, it was a stupid move to remove DOW as the DOW community was looking forward to waging war among each other at WCG.

Then, they did the second stupid thing by introducing Dota to WCG.

i thought WCG was suppose to have some self respect by bringing players who can pit hellish strats against each other. Introducing games that have serious gameplay. Not stupid timewasting crap. Sorry for my lingo but i just am really upset with the decision they made.


Well whats done is done.



king_kong. Im glad that there will be a manual and it will be in english. I would like to put my order for one down for WA. smile.gif

Well i hope you got something planned to launch this game like a mini-tourney. hehe
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post Sep 8 2005, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(H@H@ @ Sep 6 2005, 12:12 PM)
DoW was removed because of a lack of support. (Really, it was... ) Now, if you can honestly tell me with a straight face that you can get more ppl to join DoW than DotA locally, then I will concede my point. Like it or not, DoW is still a niche title locally, and unless you can get more mindless zombies to actually try something new (The only reason Warcraft 3 was so famous was simply because it was from Blizzard), you're never gonna get it mainstream... This is the fact of the Malaysian gaming industry, I've quit trying to introduce lesser known (But marginally better) titles to the masses already since its an exercise in futility since most gamers locally play what others play and not really for personal enjoyment.
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well, its true. Getting malaysian gamers to try new games is like talking to the deaf.



QUOTE(sanjikun @ Sep 7 2005, 01:26 AM)
...or....maybe what they need is super-marketing strats, like P&G ...
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If the guys in newera can get one CC to really market DOW. Like have tourneys and making sure u can play the game online and promote the game to the users in the CC. i think it might bring all the DOW players to the CC and have monstrous battles. This will then be awareness to those who havent tried DOW. (King_Kong, im not flaming newera. Just suggesting)

Well i do believe that the CCs hold the key to the game's popularity in malaysia.


QUOTE(johnnycp @ Sep 7 2005, 03:01 AM)
I not even see 'a' person playing DOW in CC at my area....
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Wei, call lar some DOW players first then meet there and frag. BTW we still have to have our match. biggrin.gif
When i get some time off, we will see to it. biggrin.gif


QUOTE(king_kong @ Sep 7 2005, 10:28 AM)
haha. looks like this thread is now moving to becoming anti-dota.

well, New Era is currently planning for a tourney and we're looking at it sometime in October, a month after the launch of WA.

we're trying to make sure the logistics is well managed...
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Youre God-sent man. smile.gif



QUOTE(Ctrl-Alt @ Sep 7 2005, 10:35 AM)
Aw, that's a sad reality, the CCs in Subang still had their versions in 1.2 laugh.gif
Irregardless of the masses' current madness for DoTA, DoW is still special in its own way.
Now the pertinent question is, will WA be here in MY this month?
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Well, im trying to talk to the owner in GamesWorld to get their original DOW game copies updated, thus allowing us to play online and expose the game to those who hasnt played it yet. But he seems to be a hard person to catch



QUOTE(johnnycp @ Sep 7 2005, 12:46 PM)
GOOD NEWS EVERY W40K FAN!!!

1.4 PATCH FOR DOW IS AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD.
HOPEFULLY THE SERVER WILL PATCH TO 1.4 ON THURSDAY
Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War -- Patch 1.4 Changes
Balance Changes
Increased Defiler cost to 190 requisition 400 power
Increased Defiler build time to 60 seconds
Increased the cost of the Chaos Sorcerer to 200 requisition 100 power
Chaos Sorcerer build time is now 60 seconds (up from 20)
Cost and build time of Chaos Marine Tactical Bolters reduced by 5%
Reduced the cost of the Chaos Temple by 10%
Reinforce time of Chaos Marine Tactical Bolters reduced by 10%
Warp Spider damage against infantry has been reduced by 15%
Guardian damage reduced by 5%
Ork Stormboyz armor changed from Infantry High to Heavy Medium. Ork Stormboyz should now be a much better counter to Warp Spiders.
Reduced the cost of the Space Marine Dreadnought to 170 requisition 350 power
Reduced the train time of the Space Marine Dreadnought to 50 seconds
Cost and build time of Space Marine Tactical Bolters reduced by 5%
Reinforce time of Space Marine Tactical Bolters reduced by 10%
Reduced the cost of the Chapel Barracks by 10%
Scouts were inadvertently given an accuracy penalty while moving in the 1.3 patch. This penalty has been removed. Scouts should now be more effective at dealing damage.
The recharge for Battle Cry was reduced to 96 seconds (down from 120)
The recharge for Orbital Bombardment was reduced to 195 seconds (down from 240)
The recharge for Smite was reduced to 100 seconds (down from 120)
The recharge for Weaken Resolve was reduced to 45 seconds (down from 60)
The build time for the Predator Lascannon upgrade was reduced to 20 seconds (down from 25)

Code & Performance Changes
Many small optimizations for low-end systems
Full front-end now reloaded after switching mods (games)
2 new graphics options: Persistent Bodies, Persistent Decals
Improved system performance detection capabilities of GraphicsOptions utility, resulting in more accurate settings. As a result, the GraphicsOptions utility will automatically run next time you start the game, post-patch/update



CLICK HERE FOR OFFICIAL NEWS

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GET A FREE Space Marine Limited Edition Metal Underwear"

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IMO his is some serious balance. Ork Stormboyz armor changed from Infantry High to Heavy Medium. Ork Stormboyz should now be a much better counter to Warp Spiders. (I like this very much) MUAAAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAA. here i come to rrruuuuuLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE YYYYOOOOOUUUUU eldars.



johnnycp, did this patch address some of the issues you had concern with.




QUOTE(johnnycp @ Sep 7 2005, 04:41 PM)
New feature in DOW 1.4 i would like to talk about.

Now u can set the numbers of persistent dead bodies and decal
in the Graphic Option. cheers.

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Hunt,
Do you like 'em ????? cheers to u biggrin.gif
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Warboss Hunt will have your head on a pikeeeeeeee. Boyzzzz, its time to WAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHH.



hehehe biggrin.gif

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post Sep 11 2005, 12:06 PM

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Well i for one was looking for some proper balancing to the Ork Armour settings so that they dont get mowed down too fast before being able to reach their enemy.

Eldar will just hit slower now. thats all. have to really test out these changes to really understand whether the old tactics still work on this new patch.
For what its worth, the Farseer's ES was useless then and i dont see a real difference now as well. her initial spells are the real big guns she has. Eventhough the description about the ES in the game states that it does significant morale and health damage to units, vehicles and buildings.

Chaos like before has been given the chance to use multiple strats against their enemies. their starting BO i think will be a choice between the Khorne beserkers, possessed and CSMs.

SM as always will be able to hold ground efficiently now with their snipers having the proper balance to them. Still would have liked to see the whirlwind a little more affordable now as the IG will be able to suppress SMs with their powerful tanks especially with those long range artillery guns. Which do you think will be stronger the LR or the BB

been reading this article.

http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/warhammer-40000-d...t/648746p1.html

IG will definately bring more variety to the game. i can see relic's reason for choosing the IG instead of the other races. Well RM100 or not, this game is going to be included into my list of "Must Have" games.

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post Sep 12 2005, 09:09 AM

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You know i want in as well.



seriously, i just want to get my hands on the game and start learning up the strats for the IG and see what they are made off. Alot of review highlighting how they can rule in late game but provided they are careful in the start.

Just hope the game's graphic has been pushed up to movie standards. biggrin.gif
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post Sep 13 2005, 11:23 AM

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Well its a surprise to see the name of the thread changed. smile.gif for the better.

What better place than to discuss strats. It will give us a chance to see the strong and weak points of the latest patch and talk about the cool killings we have done. smile.gif

Found another person who shares our love for DOW but then cant seem to find players in the local CC. Told him about this thread and now i hope he's reading it.

Anyone know what was the deal with the Ork player Charlie. it seems like the online community seems to hate him. i wonder why.

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post Sep 13 2005, 02:16 PM

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well, thats a real eye-opener. They dont look like how they sound online.
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post Sep 16 2005, 11:15 AM

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Ive already called the contact. Waiting for a reply from him. In the mean time , anyone interested pls PM me and johnnycp. Pls dont post it here.

Thanks.

Will try my best!.

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thanks king
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post Sep 17 2005, 12:39 AM

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OK, heres the deal. The more ppl we have going for the bulk buy the cheaper the game gets.

The other thing, 19th sept is the release date in america. however it will take the game some time to reach the malaysian shores. The sooner we get the orders and the $$$$$, we will be able to get our copies sooner.(the faster i can make the order)

still i need figures to negotiate with the contact. Cant talk much if i dont have much. So ppl, please decide fast. time is not on our side.


About the release date, i think only King can enlighten you with that, redeye84



Pls PM, johnnycp or me about your confirmation on the order.
GO,GO,GO ppl.


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post Sep 17 2005, 01:22 AM

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Well u wouldnt have to if you can get ppl to put down their orders.

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