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 HTC Desire Z is launched!, Finally out at Maxis!

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post Sep 24 2010, 01:15 AM

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QUOTE(jeffvip @ Sep 24 2010, 12:40 AM)
Actually my biggest concern is the date D Z coming to M'sia and does it support 3.0

Alright, i know i'm back with the 3.0 question  tongue.gif  but i think it is really important here.  If I was those guy who aren't concern bout the future of my phone, i will definitely get Iphone. Android seems interesting to me because of their rapid improving OS. But whats the point if a near-flagship phone (desire Z) is unable to support the next update android OS? It will be just the same as iOS, no improvement at all then I might as well turn to nowadays cheap iphone4 plan.  Btw, no point in discussing this things right here as there are no concrete message leak out from Google yet.  yawn.gif  I guess 'wait' is the best answer...  icon_rolleyes.gif
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1) The 3.0's (assuming Honeycomb? Gingerbread is 2.5) requirement is not even out yet, how to know what are the requirements? For all you know it might need 1.5Ghz or dual core. Its like saying, will Iphone4 support iOS 5? For all you know, Iphone4gs will come out in 1 year time and only can run iOS 5.
2) Apple Iphone's OS isnt the most rapid improving OS. Android is. In fact it has been improving TOO fast so Google had to slow it down.
3) Phone that are 2 years old with old hardware specs are running the latest FROYO 2.2 version, because of the extensive mod community. Safe to say any flagship device will definately get support at the very least by the mod community.
4) Iphone4 plan isn't that cheap actually, especially if you use alot of call tongue.gif. But in all honestly, the price isnt the big factor here. Both phones are bound to be expensive, because they are top of the line smartphones. Your deciding factor shouln't be the price. Its what you need from an OS.

Checklist for iOS:
- Simple user
- Doesnt use much smartphone functions but use heavily just for calling, smsing, casual browsing, music
- Dont need features like sending file over bluetooth, true multitasking, etc
- Want to play lots of games and use many apps
- Dont mind the boring UI and the unability to customise more than rearranging your icons

Checklist for Android
- Power user
- Besides normal phone function heavy browsing, music AND videos (its a pain to convert videos to format supported by iOS, Android supports many more formats), you use your phone alot for work on the go, such as document editing, etc
- Dont mind waiting a while as the app market for Android to grow
- Want to customise your phone exactly the way you want, and play with custom roms from the mod community
- Not scared of using your phone like a computer (why all those big specs, waste it just to use as normal phone?)

smile.gif Choose wisely!
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post Sep 24 2010, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Sep 24 2010, 01:15 AM)
1) The 3.0's (assuming Honeycomb? Gingerbread is 2.5) requirement is not even out yet, how to know what are the requirements? For all you know it might need 1.5Ghz or dual core. Its like saying, will Iphone4 support iOS 5? For all you know, Iphone4gs will come out in 1 year time and only can run iOS 5.
2) Apple Iphone's OS isnt the most rapid improving OS. Android is. In fact it has been improving TOO fast so Google had to slow it down.
3) Phone that are 2 years old with old hardware specs are running the latest FROYO 2.2 version, because of the extensive mod community. Safe to say any flagship device will definately get support at the very least by the mod community.
4) Iphone4 plan isn't that cheap actually, especially if you use alot of call tongue.gif. But in all honestly, the price isnt the big factor here. Both phones are bound to be expensive, because they are top of the line smartphones. Your deciding factor shouln't be the price. Its what you need from an OS.

Checklist for iOS:
- Simple user
- Doesnt use much smartphone functions but use heavily just for calling, smsing, casual browsing, music
- Dont need features like sending file over bluetooth, true multitasking, etc
- Want to play lots of games and use many apps
- Dont mind the boring UI and the unability to customise more than rearranging your icons

Checklist for Android
- Power user
- Besides normal phone function heavy browsing, music AND videos (its a pain to convert videos to format supported by iOS, Android supports many more formats), you use your phone alot for work on the go, such as document editing, etc
- Dont mind waiting a while as the app market for Android to grow
- Want to customise your phone exactly the way you want, and play with custom roms from the mod community
- Not scared of using your phone like a computer (why all those big specs, waste it just to use as normal phone?)

smile.gif Choose wisely!
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exactly. I like android bcos of it's fast improving OS, but it is kinda pointless if my android devices is unable to update!!! and thats what I really wanna avoid. If Desize Z really unable to update, I might go to Iphone4 or much simpler android like Wildfire and wait for dual core android phone to release (rumors 2012??)
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QUOTE(jeffvip @ Sep 24 2010, 08:50 AM)
exactly. I like android bcos of it's fast improving OS, but it is kinda pointless if my android devices is unable to update!!! and thats what I really wanna avoid. If Desize Z really unable to update, I might go to Iphone4 or much simpler android like Wildfire and wait for dual core android phone to release (rumors 2012??)
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Might be sooner than that. Since Marvell just release it's TRIPLE CORE chip aiming for tablets and smartphones. Read here :

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=26581

If that goes in a HTC device, I'm definitely buying that thing.
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QUOTE(jeffvip @ Sep 24 2010, 08:50 AM)
exactly. I like android bcos of it's fast improving OS, but it is kinda pointless if my android devices is unable to update!!! and thats what I really wanna avoid. If Desize Z really unable to update, I might go to Iphone4 or much simpler android like Wildfire and wait for dual core android phone to release (rumors 2012??)
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Based on all the points i've given in my past 2 post, the chances of Desire Z getting updated, whether via officialy or via mod, is very very high smile.gif. Of course if you want to wait for Dual core, thats even better, but you gotta wait la smile.gif.

QUOTE(d3m0n @ Sep 24 2010, 09:55 AM)
Might be sooner than that. Since Marvell just release it's TRIPLE CORE chip aiming for tablets and smartphones. Read here :

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=26581

If that goes in a HTC device, I'm definitely buying that thing.
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That'll be ages away, since dual core not even implemented yet.
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the wait is never over when it comes to technology stuff... my advice just buy what u see and like now dun wait... u can always sell it off and get the new one if u really want it!
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QUOTE(0300078 @ Sep 24 2010, 03:28 PM)
the wait is never over when it comes to technology stuff... my advice just buy what u see and like now dun wait... u can always sell it off and get the new one if u really want it!
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nod.gif for me i'll definitely gonna get MS2 or droidX(if they bring it here too)...
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post Sep 24 2010, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Sep 24 2010, 11:53 AM)
Based on all the points i've given in my past 2 post, the chances of Desire Z getting updated, whether via officialy or via mod, is very very high smile.gif. Of course if you want to wait for Dual core, thats even better, but you gotta wait la smile.gif.

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I will be getting this phone if this phone can be upgrade to 2.5 or 3.0. No question of that. Seems like dual core phone schedule to be launch at 2013. I guess by that time, Iphone maybe near extinction d (like today's BB)
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QUOTE(spikee7 @ Sep 24 2010, 03:54 PM)
nod.gif for me i'll definitely gonna get MS2 or droidX(if they bring it here too)...
never look back once fall in luv wub.gif
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if u love custom roms including kernel too, stay away from those two devices.. their mod and support seems to be slow and lacking plus motorola is not so that custom friendly. But if u prefer out of the box and not expecting much from the developers, its not a problem then
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QUOTE(pluginbaby @ Sep 24 2010, 04:23 PM)
if u love custom roms including kernel too, stay away from those two devices.. their mod and support seems to be slow and lacking plus motorola is not so that custom friendly. But if u prefer out of the box and not expecting much from the developers, its not a problem then
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ya i know bout the lacking of support n custom roms...
but i think itz already done the job for me coz it is wil be my 1st android n i'm not pro enough to do the customize yet...
since april been waiting for the rite phone for me,droidX come 1st but then the news MS2 gonna get here 1st,so i already decide gonna take MS2 for sure rclxm9.gif
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post Sep 24 2010, 05:07 PM

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need to wait is the part killing me..... seeing so many nice phone but all need to wait.... cant they launch it now???
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QUOTE(0300078 @ Sep 24 2010, 05:07 PM)
need to wait is the part killing me..... seeing so many nice phone but all need to wait.... cant they launch it now???
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i can feel ur pain too man cry.gif
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Love the design and yay Desire got brothers!!

So kinda proud having the original Desire myself. Dont plan to upgrade though, didnt see much difference. and i use Vanilla~~
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post Sep 25 2010, 10:29 PM

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I would like to know a few information about HTC Desire Z:
1. When do you think it will come to Malaysia?
2. Roughly how much will it cost?
3. From gsmarena: http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire_z-3421.php,
it seems there is a secondary camera available, but lookin at the photos
doesn't seem to have one. It is true that it has a secondary camera?
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post Sep 25 2010, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(catfish @ Sep 25 2010, 10:29 PM)
I would like to know a few information about HTC Desire Z:
1. When do you think it will come to Malaysia?
2. Roughly how much will it cost?
3. From gsmarena: http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire_z-3421.php,
    it seems there is a secondary camera available, but lookin at the photos
    doesn't seem to have one. It is true that it has a secondary camera?
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1.coming in october
2. around 2199 or 2299
3.not sure. dont really care.. wont use.
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post Sep 25 2010, 10:37 PM

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gsm arena is not always correct.. they just compile up specs but even their source some cant be 100% correct too..
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cant wait for it to arrive at OCT (tat is if it really arrive that soon lah)
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post Sep 25 2010, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Sep 24 2010, 01:15 AM)
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QFT, this perhaps is one of the most constructive comment besides all the bashing laugh.gif
very informative, thumbs up lol.
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post Sep 26 2010, 08:46 AM

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how much this would be when it launch?
look like im into this phone..
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post Sep 26 2010, 01:18 PM

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too bad none of these new desires have front cam for video calls.. wanna jump from ancient nokia e71 to one of these but later cannot video call with long distance fiance.. blush.gif (the upcoming nokia e7 on the other hand has front facing camera but weird resolution for a 4" screen) anyway, maybe after marriage can get one of these since everyday also see her face hehe..

thanks for the heads up on the pre-order thread.. ~rm2.5k range is acceptable.. let's wait for them to come in our local stores and test.. hopefully doesn't exceed rm3k sweat.gif
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QUOTE(futra @ Sep 26 2010, 01:18 PM)
too bad none of these new desires have front cam for video calls.. wanna jump from ancient nokia e71 to one of these but later cannot video call with long distance fiance..  blush.gif  (the upcoming nokia e7 on the other hand has front facing camera but weird resolution for a 4" screen) anyway, maybe after marriage can get one of these since everyday also see her face hehe..

thanks for the heads up on the pre-order thread.. ~rm2.5k range is acceptable.. let's wait for them to come in our local stores and test.. hopefully doesn't exceed rm3k  sweat.gif
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3k? sweat.gif sweat.gif Surely would be around 2300 only.. perhaps it would replace the current desire price..

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