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post Sep 15 2010, 10:35 PM

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the equation just a theory. We cannot calculate things we havent encounter before. Ya i already had the idea of aliens being something we never imagine b4 but the movies/alien encounter and others always suggest alien looks like humans, have head body leg and hands.
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post Sep 15 2010, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(fifi85 @ Sep 15 2010, 10:27 PM)
Why do aliens have to be organic and then have head, hands, legs and others? Cant alien be something we never imagined b4?
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i am wondering also why all the alien they said have come to earth are humanoid.
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post Sep 15 2010, 10:40 PM

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This could suggest that the alien encounters are all hoax or fake because they couldnt think up of an imagination for aliens beside something like humans
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post Sep 15 2010, 10:43 PM


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i was wondering why is there so much spam.....

just study the origin of any idea and it's progression tells us a lot.....
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post Sep 15 2010, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Sep 15 2010, 10:39 PM)
He meant a real sun that probably have nuclear fusion happening inside earth.
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well that would be super-less-likely to be possible.
who says stars occurs at all range of mass and at random manner?
we have such thing, known as Main Sequence of stars

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_sequence

lol this is astronomy of course.

different mass resulting in different type of stars formed.
and of course to become a star, the must be some critical mass.
although there exist some below-possible-mass-black hole,
which is tiny,
its formation which was thought impossible because of its insufficient mass,
yet its formation was due to the high pressure and temperature during the early age of the universe.
so there's reason behind this too.

to correct and answer all ScrewBallX replies here,
'Because of the Big Bang Theory, shape and size of the stars or sun is unknown and at random.'
big bang theory does not tell you so.
so stop misinterpreting science again lmao.
so not quite, please refer to the Main Sequence, something new for u to learn if you'd never heard of.

'I laugh at you Giant Impact Hypothesis. Wouldnt it knock earth out of orbit?'
????
LOL of course those scientists had shown strong evidence and through calculations they shown everything will happen so and so.
of course including the resultant earth orbit.
but are you ready for the maths? no of course. neither do we.
something that has been proven correct or pre-calculated,
there is no point of asking such simple question.
if earth would be knocked out of orbit, this theory would have been busted long ago.


'Where is the correct and reliable source? The Goverment? The Paid Goverment 3rd party? That would be like asking Najib about 1Malaysia Concept.'
???
well I see this is your problem now.
I have lots of the books, stacks of them, beside me right now.
i learnt mostly from books,
internet? well I refer partially on the net and again I will have to decide for myself where certain source are worth trusting.
and I download E books from the net.
Richard P. Feynman's lecture notes?
well those are nice ones.

internet can be made beneficial,
and the other way round too.
this depends on the user.


Added on September 15, 2010, 10:57 pm
QUOTE(fifi85 @ Sep 15 2010, 11:35 PM)
the equation just a theory. We cannot calculate things we havent encounter before. Ya i already had the idea of aliens being something we never imagine b4 but the movies/alien encounter and others always suggest alien looks like humans, have head body leg and hands.
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calculations and those proposed equation?
those are just calculation probabilities.
and those are based on logic and, mathematical reasoning.
yes we can speculate and calculate the probability.
calculate something we haven't encounter before?
or some thing that we can't see them?
we have been doing it well,
in quantum physics,
and in string theory (although not proven 100% correct yet)
we can't see individual electrons or protons and etc.
and we can't see those strings or extra dimensions.
yet we calculated and predicted them,
it's been a tremendous success in quantum physics.
and a popular quote by James Clerk Maxwell regarding the basis of quantum physics:
the true logic of this world is in the calculus of probabilities

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OMG my exam is near and im still at lyn ==

This post has been edited by KeNGZ: Sep 15 2010, 10:57 PM
Eventless
post Sep 15 2010, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(ScrewBallX @ Sep 15 2010, 07:06 PM)

Added on September 15, 2010, 7:16 pm

I laugh at you Giant Impact Hypothesis. Wouldnt it knock earth out of orbit?
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Based on this, most of the energy from the impact was converted to angular momentum which increased the speed which the planet was revolving instead of linear momentum which would have altered the movement of the planet through space..

This post has been edited by Eventless: Sep 15 2010, 11:05 PM
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post Sep 15 2010, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(Eventless @ Sep 16 2010, 12:04 AM)
Based on this, most of the energy from the impact was converted to angular momentum which increased the speed which the planet was revolving instead of linear momentum which would have altered the movement of the planet through space..
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I laughed at his laughing on the theory lol
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post Sep 16 2010, 07:53 AM

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QUOTE(KeNGZ @ Sep 15 2010, 10:34 PM)
let's open a new thread on alien?
LOL
of course it can be something out of our imagination.

and perhaps they don't have to be carbon-based.

hawking thinks that, if life can exist on earth,
why not on other planet in the universe?
cause planet earth is just another normal planet in this universe.

btw there's a mathematical formula to calculate the potential number of existence of extraterrestrial in this universe.
here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_equation
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If Hawking already believed there is Alien among the stars and could already travel to the earth due to technology advancement, means that the Hollow Earth Theory still yet to be proven.
Alien, UFO and Hollow earth are link, well as for 2012, this one i dont know.. .. For him to say Alien lifeform is a posibility, Posibility of an another exsistance that have been denied can still be question until proven so. US have been covering seceret operation for years, it is proven. Eg: The Afghan war where WikiLeaks expose mostly all of the confidential misson to the world.

So if everyone thinks there is no hole at the north pole, find an untouch picture of earth north pole by satelite. Reference should be before our advancement eg. Photoshop or any other graphic altering were develop ... somewhere 1977 - 1995 ? and paste it here.


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post Sep 16 2010, 08:04 AM

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QUOTE(ScrewBallX @ Sep 16 2010, 07:53 AM)
If Hawking already believed there is Alien among the stars and could already travel to the earth due to technology advancement, means that the Hollow Earth Theory still yet to be proven.
Alien, UFO and Hollow earth are link, well as for 2012, this one i dont know.. .. For him to say Alien lifeform is a posibility, Posibility of an another exsistance that have been denied can still be question until proven so. US have been covering seceret operation for years, it is proven. Eg: The Afghan war where WikiLeaks expose mostly all of the confidential misson to the world.

So if everyone thinks there is no hole at the north pole, find an untouch picture of earth north pole by satelite. Reference should be before our advancement eg. Photoshop or any other graphic altering were develop ... somewhere 1977 - 1995 ? and paste it here.
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Seriously, why bother with all these pseudo science? What benefit is this gonna bring you?

If you are so passionate about science, why not go for something more practical like quantum mechanics, medicine or engineering that will bring good to people? Rather than staring at all these nonsense about UFO, some US conspiracy till this whole section is filled with garbage.

Also, please get a spell checker, your entire post is filled with spelling mistakes.


Added on September 16, 2010, 8:06 amI have to bring this up:

QUOTE(KeNGZ @ Sep 15 2010, 07:23 PM)
ScrewBallX, just another question,not trying to offend you,
are you educated under the main science stream?
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Please answer this question, ScrewBallX.

QUOTE(KeNGZ @ Sep 15 2010, 10:52 PM)
well that would be super-less-likely to be possible.
who says stars occurs at all range of mass and at random manner?
we have such thing, known as Main Sequence of stars

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_sequence
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Pardon my ignorance, as astronomy isnt my main field, but even with common sense, it's not possible.

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SUSScrewBallX
post Sep 16 2010, 08:24 AM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Sep 16 2010, 08:04 AM)
Seriously, why bother with all these pseudo science? What benefit is this gonna bring you?

If you are so passionate about science, why not go for something more practical like quantum mechanics, medicine or engineering that will bring good to people? Rather than staring at all these nonsense about UFO, some US conspiracy till this whole section is filled with garbage.

Also, please get a spell checker, your entire post is filled with spelling mistakes.
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I should not bother by it cause a lot of theads going around this and other forum are also garbage. So why dont you little kids run along and open your quantum mechanics shop theads and explain repeated science to all of the people in this forum, i guess theres no one or a little people care going in to your theads. Like i said, There is a lot of people who are like you who prefer logical explanation or "I believed it when i see it" type. But all scientice made theory but when prove otherwise they research and re-study it again.

Why do i need a spell checker for ? Do i need to attend spelling exam? Do i get point for spelling it right? Other TS have bad grammar and wrong spelling, that doesnt bother anyone.
Seriously, you should get a life. Looks like you need more attention.

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post Sep 16 2010, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(ScrewBallX @ Sep 16 2010, 08:24 AM)
I should not bother by it cause a lot of theads going around this and other forum are also garbage. So why dont you little kids run along and open your  quantum mechanics shop theads and explain repeated science to all of the people in this forum, i guess theres no one or a little people care going in to your theads. Like i said, There is a lot of people who are like you who prefer logical explanation or "I believed it when i see it" type. But all scientice made theory but when prove otherwise they research and re-study it again.

Why do i need a spell checker for ? Do i need to attend spelling exam? Do i get point for spelling it right? Other TS have bad grammar and wrong spelling, that doesnt bother anyone.
Seriously, you should get a life. Looks like you need more attention.
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Ohhohohoho, you are angry because your little Hollow Earth Theory beginning to fall apart.

It's just clear that you dont really have any knowledge on science and just holding on all these pseudo science fantasy. Great read, but whats the point?

Nothing wrong for being "I believe when i see it", as a visual evidence is the best way to convince someone, rather than some fairy tales or some half cooked theory.

You know what, some of your spelling mistakes makes it really hard to understand what are you trying to say.
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post Sep 16 2010, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Sep 16 2010, 08:59 AM)
Ohhohohoho, you are angry because your little Hollow Earth Theory beginning to fall apart.

It's just clear that you dont really have any knowledge on science and just holding on all these pseudo science fantasy. Great read, but whats the point?

Nothing wrong for being "I believe when i see it", as a visual evidence is the best way to convince someone, rather than some fairy tales or some half cooked theory.

You know what, some of your spelling mistakes makes it really hard to understand what are you trying to say.
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Angry? Dont assume to much and judge by the word and say "oh ! your angry" I may feel happy, sad or boring. Statement is discuss at first post.. are you dicussing or just you like to troll around? How can theory fall apart if there is just only theory to contadict it? No one knows the earth is solid and no one know the earth is hollow. Everthing is just by theory, hence the Hollow Earth Theory. whistling.gif

If you dont understand than feel free to modify it. yawn.gif




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post Sep 16 2010, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(ScrewBallX @ Sep 16 2010, 08:24 AM)
I should not bother by it cause a lot of theads going around this and other forum are also garbage. So why dont you little kids run along and open your  quantum mechanics shop theads and explain repeated science to all of the people in this forum, i guess theres no one or a little people care going in to your theads. Like i said, There is a lot of people who are like you who prefer logical explanation or "I believed it when i see it" type. But all scientice made theory but when prove otherwise they research and re-study it again.

Why do i need a spell checker for ? Do i need to attend spelling exam? Do i get point for spelling it right? Other TS have bad grammar and wrong spelling, that doesnt bother anyone.
Seriously, you should get a life. Looks like you need more attention.
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If you are not supposed to use logical explanations to explain something, how do you prove your theory is correct? Spam pages and pages of stuff so that people agree with you just to shut you up or wait until no one care about the thread anymore so that you can declare yourself the winner. If you don't want to have a discussion, don't post your stuff on a forum.

The part about science where a theory can be disproved is what makes science great. Wrong information can be removed.

What is a quantum mechanic shop?


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post Sep 16 2010, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(ScrewBallX @ Sep 16 2010, 09:34 AM)
Angry? Dont assume to much and judge by the word and say "oh ! your angry" I may feel happy, sad or boring. Statement is discuss at first post.. are you dicussing or just you like to troll around? How can theory fall apart if there is just only theory to contadict it? No one knows the earth is solid and no one know the earth is hollow. Everthing is just by theory, hence the Hollow Earth Theorywhistling.gif

If you dont understand than feel free to modify it.  yawn.gif
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again you dont understand what a scientific theory mean. please read on its definition.


you have not evidence to support hollow earth except some fairy tale story that are not authenticated, while thousand of scientist have been to research mission in both pole, none of them notice a gapping hole in the ground.
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QUOTE(robertngo @ Sep 16 2010, 10:18 AM)
again you dont understand what a scientific theory mean. please read on its definition.
you have not evidence to support hollow earth except some fairy tale story that are not authenticated, while thousand of scientist have been to research mission in both pole, none of them notice a gapping hole in the ground.
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Fun fact about the Arctic polar cap, this submarine actually went under it and passed the North Pole.
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If Hawking already believed there is Alien among the stars and could already travel to the earth due to technology advancement, means that the Hollow Earth Theory still yet to be proven.
Alien, UFO and Hollow earth are link, well as for 2012, this one i dont know.. .. For him to say Alien lifeform is a posibility, Posibility of an another exsistance that have been denied can still be question until proven so. US have been covering seceret operation for years, it is proven. Eg: The Afghan war where WikiLeaks expose mostly all of the confidential misson to the world.

So if everyone thinks there is no hole at the north pole, find an untouch picture of earth north pole by satelite. Reference should be before our advancement eg. Photoshop or any other graphic altering were develop ... somewhere 1977 - 1995 ? and paste it here.


lol looks like you are still defending your POV and won't get over with it.
well looks like all our explanation won't help you getting any better or learning the science.
we've explained enough now.

and again,
== you are relating irrelevant stuffs above again.

and LOL my friend questioned me:
why is there on earth such person like you?
someone who doesn't believe in science,[COLOR=blue]
and instead created a new branch of theories that are biased and deviated from the actual main stream that you have fabricated.
and would compare you to the witches, shaman and prophet in the past,
that fooled people with there saying and the fake truths.
We are sad to see that there is such Malaysian,
furthermore we have had science education prepared for everyone.
or is it insufficient?
and I'm even more disappointed that some even got influenced and actually trusted your pseudo-science.
a forum is not intended for educating people wrongfully,
or no one will have any confidence in it.
a forum is a place where we share true valuable information,
and discuss about some unsolved discrepancies, then find out the truth and discard the wrong one.
so be a responsible guy and Malaysian in LYN.
we are going 2020 dude. modal insan arr, professionals arr.

well I don't know.
if you think my words aren't powerful or convincing,
or I don't have the real knowledge/ my knowledge are all crap and made-ups,
well I have nothing to say.
this is a forum, people have their freedom to talk and choose whether to believe or not.
perhaps because you think this Lowyat forum does not have professionals that can compete with you,
or has no people with those scientific knowledge that can overturn your theories.

let me introduce you another forum.
run by physicist, mathematician, PhD professors, engineers and etc from all around the world, esp. US.
http://www.physicsforums.com/
post your thread there and I would like to see them getting stunned with you with your pseudo-science,
and how do they fire at you.

goodluck
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QUOTE(robertngo @ Sep 15 2010, 10:36 PM)
i am wondering also why all the alien they said have come to earth are humanoid.
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I suspect the cock roach is alien. they exist millions of years. probably they created us by massive inbreeding?
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oops forgot to show u how to differentiate science from non-science
the philosophy and thus method of science.
how was science developed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_science
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QUOTE(Eventless @ Sep 16 2010, 10:25 AM)
Fun fact about the Arctic polar cap, this submarine actually went under it and passed the North Pole.
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Dude, there's no hole in the north pole. That sub went under the ice caps. thats all. the sea bed had no hole to go into the hollow world doh.gif
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QUOTE(happy4ever @ Sep 16 2010, 11:58 AM)
Dude, there's no hole in the north pole. That sub went under the ice caps. thats all. the sea bed had no hole to go into the hollow world  doh.gif
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I didn't mention anything about a hole there in that post, did I? I only mentioned about the sub going under the polar cap and passing the north pole.

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