I never 'boost' or boast about support from the manufacturer(s), I just said and have said before, that the open source community supports it. Whether or not the phone manufacturers support it is another thing. And we can still find custom roms or whatever of phones long outdated.

Of the 3 or 4 posts I made prior to this, I don't see where I said anything about manufacturer supporting legacy hardware. I only mentioned hackers, custom roms, step by step guides.

Apple supports their phone cause they don't want users to experience the OS any other way. And what can be done on 4.1 which can't already be done on jailbroken phones?

This post has been edited by MYstombox: Sep 5 2010, 09:07 PM

I would suggest that iPhone is really really user friendly. That's it.

Android le.. since it is open source, then less application limitation.

Actually la kan..
before this I really want to use iPhone and wait for the price lower..

Then suddenly Android came out, I watch it review & comments from pro's. With never see it by my own eyes, I just ordered it and get it via post. BoooM.. it really cool.. and I love it.. till now keep using android

History:
1st time using android with Motorola Dext.. then change to Motorola Milestone.. and now change lagi.. use Motorola Milestone XT720..

why motorola? don't know la.. I just love it

With the outstanding lineup of phones available and coming out soon that will be running Android, it isn't a mystery why Android's popularity is skyrocketing.
It's funny to be witnessing history repeat itself. Apple's closed system will once again render them as a niche while the open Android system will take over the main stream.
Apple got a bit of a head start in the market so it will take a while longer, but it is inevitable.

Well there will always pro and con... IPhone I did not see lags even u install quite some number in it, but some android yes... Especially lower specs one... But if u see the specs of the lower spec android with iphone it is about he same...

What I can say is iPhone OS build for the phone, but Android phone needs to build to meet the Android OS performance...

As some of them says if you prefer to have a frust free entertainment phone, iPhone is good... But u prefer customisation n don mind a bit frust the android...

I'm using wildfire, it lags a lil and needs u to kill tasks n restart sometimes to run smoother... I don see even galaxy s or desire will not need to do that, coz theyare running the same platform... u need to manually kill some task in order for it to run smooter... If u used wm or symbian b4 then android will be much fun or course...

presumably ur malaysian, hence quite forgetful.
only a year ago, android fones were non-existent but mkt awareness and sales had skyrocketed until de level it is now.
bcoz manufacturers like htc, sony, n motorola r not allowed to use iOS hence they must use de only other alternative, android.
even if android is inferior to iOS (not all but de most important thgs to de normal user), these brands didn't hv any choice.
using android as de base OS, these brands poured their best specs fones, spend a lot of advertising money to promote.
and the results is seen now. dis kenot be avoided.

but will dis trend last long? after normal users find it lacking, especially in user interface, battery life?
unless google manage to hires many ex-apple iOS key staff, i do not expect the expertise of android team to match apple.

and it is not same story like windows and macos.
unlike windows which had no competitors, in de smartphone mkt already have windows mobile, symbian (nokia) and webOS (hp).

for example, htc/sony/moto can easily switch to winmo7 and drop android anytime.

What make u think HTC, SE motorola want to use iOS???? they got use WM6.5 or the coming WM7 or symbian or android itself with their self made custom user interface. There is lots of choice even it is using android itself due to open platform.
"these brands didn't hv any choice."???????? What I see is Apple don't have any choice in term of choosing OS.
"spend lots of money"???? do u even know who spend the most money in advertising?

LOL.. so what u are saying is that to make a good user interface, companies must hire apple's staff???? So any android user here agree that android interface not good??

Windows don't have competitors??? Do u even know that during the 1980s, mackintosh was cheaper than it competitor IBM(do u even know that IBM was the OS market leader)???? Windows was not that hot only that time
PLEASE La... read history how yr beloved company lets windows become monopoly la..especially steve job...
and the current situation is just look like during that time. As now Google offer a more open platform while apple offer a closed platform.

btw, SE just announced few weeks ago that they are planning to be largest android phone manufacturer.. PLEASE LA... read news before u come out with those funny funny comment.
btw, for yr info again, SE is collaborating with android team(google) to bring PSP to android platform in the Gingerbread.
and btw, all along, HTC always come out with android and winmo phones all along since 2008 since android came.. They are not stupid enough to drop android just because of winmo.

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Added on September 6, 2010, 11:46 amand btw, those manufacturer use Android because they see there is a potential market for android phone, NOT BECAUSE they don't have choice.
google didn't USE A GUN point at HTC/samsung/motorola to force them use Android.

This post has been edited by whitegoh: Sep 6 2010, 11:46 AM

kentang peranchis got owned..

and beside poured their best specs, they do make customization
HTC-htc sense
motorola-motoblur
samsung-touchwiz
SE-mediascape/timescape
to differentiate among competitors.

great, i found a wildfire end user here. Minds to share with me what is the app you already install inside and hows ur usage? Does the battery last you for only 1 day? when u said you need to kill task and restart , does that means restart the phone ? how frequent you need to do that.

My current n97 some times the touch screen just no responding when there is incoming call....

pls think properly b4 u put ur thoughts into writing and shame urslf. but i guess u must be still inexperienced and naive.
1) simple reason sense/touchwiz/blur exist is 4 branding and bcoz standard android interface is inferior, not meant for normal users. but each time google improves its firmware, those brands need to scramble n rewrite de whole software again (but they can choose to ignore latest firmwares as well)
2) thr is no viable choice other den android. winmo 6.5 is outdated and never really open up de touchscreen smartphone market until apple came into the picture.
symbian?? . juz another phoneOS which was never built for touch interface. juz buttons.
3) for sure, se/htc/moto can easily drop android if they want to. if microsoft gives them enuff reasons to do so.

therefore, android users now is constantly in danger. of course, u have ur geeky xda-developers forum for self-cooked ROMs (same with winmo)...but wld normal users ever bothered with dat?

my final conclusion to ur question "planning on buying a andriod phone"
- pls go ahead. if u like de advertisments, can live with de pathetic battery life (desire, but still to be proven in firmware 2.2), spends and njoys life modding fones (colors, fonts, roms, etc)

heck many ppl spend their moneys in more wasteful ways anyway.

I ask you la.. if android is so inferior to iOS, even if "these brands poured their best specs fones, spend a lot of advertising money to promote", for sure all the handphone users in this world all using iphone already.. how come android market share still can skyrocket????????

It's like telling ppl, htc/sony/motorola are selling sh*ts rebranded/covered up in different forms, and yet users still buy these bags of sh*ts till the market share for android skyrocket??

What you say just don't make sense..

"standard android interface is inferior, not meant for normal users???? so u what make u think standard interface is inferior for normal users???"
did u even see those nexus one's interface??? Not meant for normal user???? and how u defined normal user?? what make u think that standard android's interface is not for normal user???
Is it very hard to interact with the users???
"for sure, se/htc/moto can easily drop android if they want to. if microsoft gives them enuff reasons to do so???"
hohoho.. Then we shall see...

yeah, android users are in danger. u all should be cafeful, and yeah don't buy android, android going to die soon, buy iphone, is the best.
buying android phone is a waste of yr money...

Is android not meant for normal users????
I think most of us in this forum who are using android are normal users. Hard to use??? those android user will know. Not a pro-apple fans who keep on bashing android with baseless argument. I hope u do read some of the forecast about smartphone sales before even open yr mouth saying "android going to die soon".

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Added on September 6, 2010, 1:09 pmand is buying android phone waste of money???
If yes, buying a iPhone is also waste of money, is an even better way of wasting yr money coz WE DON'T NEED a 2.5k iphone for a NORMAL USER.

This post has been edited by whitegoh: Sep 6 2010, 01:17 PM

Yeah, it is so inferior that my 3.5 years old kid know how to unlock my htc magic ( stock interface, not sense ) and play game on it

if u can calm urslf down and read properly, i've mentioned dat even though android is inferior n has many weakness, it is NO CHOICE situation by other phone maker brands. otherwise, they will be left out cold from de touchscreen smartphone market dat apple created.

do they wanna use
win-mob? - outdated and was designed for stylus input, not touch.
symbian? - outdated and was designed for buttons inout, not touch.
webOS? - viable alternative to iOS but palm screwed up. depends how hp will make use of dis weapon.

android? - most viable alternative, with open-source concept therefore many possibilities/problems. but need a visionary like steve jobs to really push it into mainstream.
win-mob7 - unknown. but quite possible de android-slayer.

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Added on September 6, 2010, 2:03 pmdo not underestimate de intelligence of kids nowdays.
u may be suprised dat they are much smarter den u in so many ways!


This post has been edited by kentang_peranchis: Sep 6 2010, 02:03 PM

hehe.. this rather funny.. sounds like you're steve jobs' gaypartner.. haha just kidding..
i curious again.. if the manufacturer like sony/nokia doesnt hav choice other than android platform?
they got their own os developed.. like on N900 and Aino.. but still they focused on android.. *sign*
do they throw away all the research/efford on their own OS just because they dont hav choice to take android?
as a normal business man ppl..they would see only benefit for future.. and they saw they can get more thru android rather than keep developing current OS..

yes, u r right. there is no choice.
but u must use more of ur brain to think deeper.
u think it is so easy to develop ur own OS? it may take years and lotsa money! only now samsung is try-try, see-see de BADA.
and u think each company got a visionary and a genius like steve jobs? maybe nokia/se/htc can somehow develop their own software but there's no guarantee it can even smell de smoke left behind by iOS.

so de logical and business thg to do is to use somethg free, and slightly better den de other losers out there, invest a bit on de interface for branding and patch up purpose, and voila...htc/se/moto branded android phones.

otherwise, they will be left out of smartphone touch market.

this thread has been off track too thanks to some people, needs to be closed (thanks to some people)

This post has been edited by pluginbaby: Sep 6 2010, 02:41 PM

yeah agreed..

he just think every single people on the earth hope to use iOS on their phone.. i wonder which company want to use iOS which not support bluetooth file transfer and only proud with 3.2mp camera(+witout flash).. ROFL..

the issue is..iOS juz for iphone mobiles only..while android os..a lot of phone company doin same os..like HTC,motorola,SE etc...try iOS..put in others phone model with low spec..sure sangkut ma..sure no smooth..aishooo..