You don't see the whole picture, lets put it like this: Imagine putting it into the laptop and have to carry it ALL the time even when not plugged in, for small netbook it might be 100-200 grams but for big laptop it such a nuisance. Plus when charging imagine the heat it produces. You don't want another heat source cooking your lap or your palm aren't you? Harddisk, GPU and CPU is put out enough heat already, you already pointed out the wattage of the CPU, that's not included other components, chipset, PWM on the mobo etc. All of this producing heat. Heat is number one problem in laptop and also could damage the battery in long run.

Having x86 and all its capability does have its drawback, its not as power saving as ARM CPU but then again those ARM processor is not comparable to laptop and desktop x86 CPU in terms of performance and functionality so it silly to compare its battery life. See that Intel do to Atom, the dropped OoO in favor of In order and the performance drops by a lot, whats the point of having long battery life if the task you gonna do take longer time as well? Gain something lose something. AMD has just started with low power CPU, and it is fruitful as compared to Atom, far better performance and comparable battery life. Its just the start, expect it to get better on next iteration.

next year, Windows 8 are start compatible with ARM processor. After Microsoft unveil for this additional processor support, Intel quickly announce they gonna support Android. Wintel era gonna over, muahahhaha......
in other hand, now many developer already successfully porting Android on x86 system also. all this changes and more options, great for user.

I still think that 10hours of battery life isnt gonna let u leave ur power brick at home. it isnt long enough for one to do that. I would really prefer them to put the power brick inside the casing, as one would not need to carry 2 things all the time.

Bobcat is a good start for low power computing but the rate of we progressing it gonna took us probaly 2 decades. As far as I know you could easily run a 2GHz p4 system just for facebook/web surfing. I keep wondering why there is no x86 platform in the roadmap that geared for at least 3-4 days of battery life.

Unlike Atom, The Bobcat family is quite flexible. It is just a plain 40nm process Zacate and yet it has been tweaked over and over again on the same chip till something even lower power like the Ontario and Desna comes out. Now imagine what 28nm and more Bobcat cores can do for it.

3-4 days is insane, you're going against physics itself or at least the current capacity of battery technology. Even with an ARM, something like the iPhone 4 wouldn't even last a whole day if it is constantly used 24 hours. If ARM can't even achieve 3-4 days of constant use(not standby time), you can't expect x86 to do the same.

This post has been edited by dma0991: Jun 30 2011, 09:31 AM

Maybe he wanted this, a 32 hour battery life HP EliteBook 8460p with its 'portable' 120W docking station. Laptop weight in at 2.07kg if it uses standard 6-cell battery, the docking station itself weight at 'light' 1.637kg! There you are, power brick free laptop just for you. Mind you the rated 32-hour is with WiFi in OFF state, and presumably in lowest brightness and in idle



Seriously, unless there is a breakthrough in manufacturing process to reduce leakage in transistor or breakthrough battery technology such as carbon nanotube battery, he just asking the impossible.

http://pctuning.tyden.cz/hardware/zakladni...v-zari?start=11

FX-8130P @ 4GHz vs i7 990X @ 4GHz

Sounds promising if it's the new stepping, even better if it's the old stepping.

it is not asking the impossible, I am just saying the industy seems to be focus on delivering more performance than improving TDP when addressing this portion of the market, wheres we know that at certain speed we are fast enough for basic websurfing/word document.
I dont think it is unreasonable to ask for 3-4days idling usage time. It is not full time I am asking.

This post has been edited by billytong: Jun 30 2011, 03:40 PM

I think it is unreasonable for the next couple years. A laptop on standby will barely last three days. Try accomplishing that with the display on.

Fusion concept IS the answer to your statement. Problem is consumer demand smooth Flash videos and Flash heavy site, 1080i capable video playback for home theater, capable GPU for mainstream games and multitasking and not just basic stuff. If not you just go back to Atom then, yes it is enough for your stuff, but do you do just that all the time? Do you just websurfing and spreadsheet all day without visiting flash site or playing games? AMD try to delivers good performance for day-to-day usage but with minimal power draw. But this is their first step, technology needs time to grow.

playing games on my lappy probably not. Especially when u are dealing with work related things.

Perhaps advances in Fuel Cell technology may one day make laptop last several days, and does it in same volume with normal 6-cell Li-Ion batteries.

Wouldn't you need to refuel it? I think that would be more troublesome than electrical batteries, even if the fuel is just water.

when the bulldozer fx series proc will available in the market? try to google it, it says 11 june but not found any benchmark..

erm..i think i just get i7 bcz need proc asap..i thought it already release

June 11th is not the actual launch date, AMD has never given an official launch date for Bulldozer. It is merely a rumor that spread like wildfire and made many believe that it is true. The latest speculation/rumor points that Bulldozer will come by September but of course it is just another rumor and hopefully it is right this time.

My advice is get a Core i5 2500K + P67 board instead. Has overclocking potential and much cheaper than a Core i7 2600. If you're mostly gaming, HT serves no purpose unless you're running heavily threaded(>4 threads) programs.

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FX-8130P functioning turbo core at 4.2GHz. Idle at 1.4GHz(0.936V) and turbo till 4.2GHz(1.392V).

Is there any news about upcoming mini itx llano board? I'm looking to build a tiny pc for the room so that I could stream from hulu. If it wasn't for this, I'd just grab a media player

You could give ASRock a call for the availability of their ASRock A75M-ITX which is a very nice mITX board.

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Malaysia how to stream hulu?

get a US VPS and install OpenVPN. Or just get some VPN in the stateside. I use a VPS at California as well as openDNS' DNS to bypass all telekom BS.

Can you please elaborate sifu, very interested

demit. the video ends right before SPi..
hope that this is true.. even highly unstable, still its a good improvement over deneb/thuban...