my opinion, better AMD move on to new platform AM3+..

AMD sure is great...each time they make it to be backward compatible...even now they move on to new architecture..and im surprise that AMD are able to make d bulldozer to be compatible wit current AM3 by sacrificing something in d bulldozer...
I wonder why they did not use triple channel memory for Am3+ ..izzit because of backward compatible with AM3 which only support dual-channel memory?

maybe performance gain of triple channel vs dual channel still not noticeable.

i thought from those news, an AM3 cpu can put into AM3+ socket.

AMD upgrade path way always better then intel x10000000000000 times

I think AM3+ processor can stick inside to AM3 board, but AM3 processor can't be paired with AM3+. Anyway, shall (see) when Intel to move to LGA 1155.

Edit: AM2 and AM3 processors will work in the AM3+ socket, but Bulldozer chips will not work in non-AM3+ motherboards.

Yup. I read wrongly. Hmm, so it's time to buy new motherboard when it is out. Hmm.

I copied from website one. You can search the sentence. On mobile now. So a new chipset too.

This post has been edited by mitodna: Aug 29 2010, 07:35 PM

i think AM2 cpu can't work on AM3+ socket board la.

i see i see. read from those website also.
but just curious that AM2 cpu only support DDR2 memory.
unless there is DDR2 memory slot on AM3+ board?

have a quick view on AMD Bulldozer:
Bulldozer Shines in 3D Gaming and Rendering: AMD

So the ASUS Crosshair IV Extreme cannot support this processor ?

25-9-2010 News :
AMDs Eight-Core Bulldozer Processors to Get Massive Cache
The eight-core microprocessors from Advanced Micro Devices based on the Bulldozer micro-architecture that feature Orochi design will get massive internal cache systems compared to current-generation of chips. In total, the top-of-the-range single-die processor will have 16MB of cache.

AMD Orochi chip (which is a universal server and client design that will power Valencia, Zambezi and possibly other implementations of first-gen Bulldozer family) will have 8MB unified level-three cache, according to a document seen by X-bit labs. Since eight-core Orochi features four dual-core Bulldozer modules, each of which is believed to have 2MB of shared level-two cache, the whole chip will pack in whopping 16MB of SRAM, a 77% increase from the current six-core microprocessors that have 9MB of cache in total.

Large L2 caches will help AMDs next-generation microprocessors to ensure higher performance in single-threaded applications compared to todays multi-core chips that only have 512KB of L2, whereas massive L3 cache will maximize memory bandwidth. In both cases this will bring notable performance gains compared to todays Stars/Greyhound architecture.

AMD Orochi design is the companys next-generation processor for high-end desktop and server markets. The chip will feature eight processing engines, but since it is based on Bulldozer micro-architecture, those cores will be packed into four modules. Every module which will have two independent integer cores (that will share fetch, decode and L2 functionality) with dedicated schedulers, one floating point unit with two 128-bit FMAC pipes with one FP scheduler. The chip will have shared L3 cache, new dual-channel DDR3 memory controller and will use HyperTransport 3.1 bus. The Orochi chips will use new AM3+ form-factor and will require brand new platforms.

if i have AM3 mobo, so can i use bulldozer processor with AM3+ ???
or i need buy new AM3+ mobo?

AFAIK, you need to get a new mobo for AM3+

But for AM3+ mobos, can support AM3 procs

Time for more people to move toward AMD CPUs and GPUs.
Nvidia really pity.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/2..._Gen_Chips.html


Anyone here didn't jump to the P67/Sandy Bridge platform yet and still holding out for this?

been waiting for so long already....
Here's hoping it's cheaper and as fast as SNB.

waiting for buldozer III here... hahaha. currently own a netbook with intel atom inside, chit. realy interested in amd bobcat notebook/netbook.

june eh? delay from the initial plan that stated in march/april

nvm...ill wait for this..

lol.. at last Bulldozer coming...
can't wait to see how it fare againts SB...

Does it mean that we can have a cheap desktop solution without the need of a gfx card? I am very keen on a HTPC - low power, silent, decent performance. Hope that this is a viable solution.

Bulldozer is not an APU..it is strictly just the processor alone..
You want a processor that has a IGP in it then wait even longer till the AMD Llano APU is available for the desktop..not too sure though because it will appear on laptops first

If you need HTPC,current Zacate is already enough for you.

Theres already motherboard based on Zacate,find it