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post Jan 20 2012, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(DoubleU @ Jan 20 2012, 01:55 PM)
will trinity fit on AM3+ socket? or the FM1 socket? or is it still not confirmed?
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AFAIK from what I've read on the Internet it seems like it requires a brand new socket.
http://www.techpowerup.com/155079/AMD-FM1-...compatible.html
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post Jan 21 2012, 01:57 AM

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trinity will use FM2 socket... not compatible with FM1
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QUOTE(DoubleU @ Jan 19 2012, 07:45 PM)
but seriously the i3 above the rest? why? so future can upgrade to ivy? Is the FX4100 really that poor? can't be worse than my current i7-740qm on my laptop right?
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[cool.gif[SIZE=7][COLOR=blue] For sure, even i5 still cant beat. so poor T_T
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post Mar 12 2012, 04:24 PM

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why until now still don't have any solid updated news about FM2 socket...... waiting, waiting.....

the latest I can see after google is:

AMD Socket FM2 Motherboards Based on A85 FCH Arrive in June
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post Mar 13 2012, 11:07 AM

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Zambezi, Vishera - AM3+
Trinity - FM2
Llano - FM1

From my understanding... FM1 will co-exist for a while together with FM2 to cater the lower mainstream level (A6, A4 APUs) and still retaining the Llano architecture. Trinity FM2 will be on the upper mainstream with updated A8 as well as the new A10.

FX will still use AM3+ at least until Q1 od 2013 to serve the enthusiast/high end consumer market.

This post has been edited by soulfly: Mar 13 2012, 11:08 AM
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Wud be good if AMD also have pcie 3.0 platform.
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Trinity A10-5700 HD7660D 384SP,760MHz = HD5670 performance? icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(AlanSiew @ Mar 13 2012, 01:11 PM)
Trinity A10-5700 HD7660D 384SP,760MHz = HD5670 performance? icon_question.gif
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nobody is really sure yet. it's not even released, no engineering sample test result to see.
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post Mar 14 2012, 12:43 PM

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Getting Llano is more worth it or getting phenom/athlon + cheap discreet card is more worth it?
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QUOTE(xcen @ Mar 14 2012, 12:43 PM)
Getting Llano is more worth it or getting phenom/athlon + cheap discreet card is more worth it?
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depend on what you target on. if you need full performance up on all the time as long as you turn on the machine, then second choice. for me, mostly I turn on 24/7, power saving is important for me but I need the balance on performance when needed too. so I will choose Llano but now I waiting for Trinity this year. still no news yet sad.gif sad.gif
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QUOTE(djlah @ Mar 14 2012, 02:08 PM)
depend on what you target on. if you need full performance up on all the time as long as you turn on the machine, then second choice. for me, mostly I turn on 24/7, power saving is important for me but I need the balance on performance when needed too. so I will choose Llano but now I waiting for Trinity this year. still no news yet  sad.gif  sad.gif
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http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pentiu...-6670,3140.html

still better off wit cheap intel CPU + cheap GPU.

u'll get similar if not slightly better gaming performance, & much more superior in non gaming apps.
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QUOTE(unknown_2 @ Mar 14 2012, 04:10 PM)
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pentiu...-6670,3140.html

still better off wit cheap intel CPU + cheap GPU.

u'll get similar if not slightly better gaming performance, & much more superior in non gaming apps.
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depend on everyone personal needs. for me, as I said power usage is important for me. APU idle still achieved better than Intel according from the tomshardware reviews. furthermore, the comparison is taking A8-3870K, which is already AMD's fastest APU, while I won't buy K edition. I already using Intel many years, I want to give try AMD APU next.
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QUOTE(djlah @ Mar 14 2012, 05:07 PM)
depend on everyone personal needs. for me, as I said power usage is important for me. APU idle still achieved better than Intel according from the tomshardware reviews. furthermore, the comparison is taking A8-3870K, which is already AMD's fastest APU, while I won't buy K edition. I already using Intel many years, I want to give try AMD APU next.
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it's weird to see how little overclock ad so much to power consumption.
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QUOTE(xcen @ Mar 14 2012, 12:43 PM)
Getting Llano is more worth it or getting phenom/athlon + cheap discreet card is more worth it?
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Llano should be great for HTPC setup and normal office work, internet browsing and those general use. Real world power consumption should also less than Phenom/Athlon + cheap discrete, measurable but not highly significant.

Llano performance also scales better with higher DDR3 speeds compare to cheap Athlon II which hardly benefit higher DDR3 speeds.

You may get cheaper build cost with older Athlon/Sempron AM3 but cheap motherboards also have outdated and limited features. Most cheaper/older AM3 mobos does not have SATA3 or USB3.0. Even built-in HD4290 (890GX) has lower performance than HD6530D in A6-series. Gaming at low resolution... Can't get any wrong with Llano.

Let say we're comparing Athlon/Sempron based AM3 with built in graphics HD4290 (890GX) vs cheapest Llano A4 with built in graphics HD6410D, the latter is like 5-times better GPU performance than the former. At non-overclocked setting, AM3 Athlon II probably max out at ddr3-1333 or ddr3-1600 while Llano can still benefit ddr3-1866 greatly.

starcraft, dota, cs:s ... Llano should be no problem.
i'm expecting that diablo 3 will run without a hitch as well since the requirement looks like decently low.
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Mar 15 2012, 08:15 PM)
Llano should be great for HTPC setup and normal office work, internet browsing and those general use. Real world power consumption should also less than Phenom/Athlon + cheap discrete, measurable but not highly significant.

Llano performance also scales better with higher DDR3 speeds compare to cheap Athlon II which hardly benefit higher DDR3 speeds.

You may get cheaper build cost with older Athlon/Sempron AM3 but cheap motherboards also have outdated and limited features. Most cheaper/older AM3 mobos does not have SATA3 or USB3.0. Even built-in HD4290 (890GX) has lower performance than HD6530D in A6-series. Gaming at low resolution... Can't get any wrong with Llano.

Let say we're comparing Athlon/Sempron based AM3 with built in graphics HD4290 (890GX) vs cheapest Llano A4 with built in graphics HD6410D, the latter is like 5-times better GPU performance than the former. At non-overclocked setting, AM3 Athlon II probably max out at ddr3-1333 or ddr3-1600 while Llano can still benefit ddr3-1866 greatly.
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Makes a lot of sense, thanks! Seems like Llano is more cost effective for light gaming + mostly HD movie watching.
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Mar 15 2012, 11:23 PM)
starcraft, dota, cs:s ... Llano should be no problem.
i'm expecting that diablo 3 will run without a hitch as well since the requirement looks like decently low.
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like all blizzard games, it doesn't take a whole of of horse power.
they hav great engine.

diablo 3 is announced for may 15th btw.

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post Mar 16 2012, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(unknown_2 @ Mar 16 2012, 11:37 AM)
like all blizzard games, it doesn't take a whole of of horse power.
they hav great engine.

diablo 3 is announced for may 15th btw.
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everyone from world wide now are waiting this games. damm nice and much much improved from previous version.

Trinity A85X chipset ready

FM2 support !!!!
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post Mar 16 2012, 04:25 PM

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When 2013 AMD gonna change Trinity socket FM2 to Kaveri socket F2SL again! vmad.gif

QUOTE(djlah @ Mar 16 2012, 05:49 PM)
u mean Trinity APU can use on FM1 motherboard with A85X chipset?blink.gif
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QUOTE(AlanSiew @ Mar 16 2012, 07:05 PM)
u mean Trinity APU can use on FM1 motherboard with A85X chipset?blink.gif
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just copy and paste the title here from source. if you read again the article, is mentioned the old chipset alone able to support build for both socket motherboard. Trinity is not using FM1.

the news bring is just want to tell us A85X chipset is ready in Q1 and expected to see A85X motherboard in Q2. but didn't confirm the motherboard socket support.

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