Hahaha bro I was from another ship before. Just hate the monopoly.

haha really? market monopoly?

Your Thuban still has life in it... Why waste money bro?

Yep. The market monopoly.

performance wise, how u feel it? is it noticeable for daily usage and gaming?

until they fix all the flaws in the bulldozer architecture piledriver is going to be failure. 10% is not going to help u to complete against even Sandy bridge. These flaws pointed out clearly in anandtech.

The original design of Bulldozer is intended to offer 20-25% higher clock under the same process than Phenom II and only -5% IPC. In other words on a better 32nm, bulldozer should have release @ 4GHz+ from start to 4.5GHz.

Intel has wake up now, it is going to be hard to take market share from them.

P4 era is AMD perfect opportunity to gain share, they screw it hard. Unless Bulldozer can have IPC as good as Ivy bridge + 5-10%. It is going to be a failure.

How did they screw it hard? AFAIK, they had the Athlon 64 and X2s ate everything up till the Core 2 launch.

Hmmmm AMD APU R-Series
AMD R-Series APUs vs. Intel Core i7,i5, and i3 Processors for Graphics Centric Embedded Applications

They got money, they sell their CPU like hot cakes, Intel is weakest that time. It is the only time in the 40yrs that AMD actually leading Intel. If they continue strike new architecture that time it would be gain a lot of market share by then. it took Intel years to copy AMD integrated memory controller and put in in Nehelem CPU and Now Intel has woke up, it is far less likely they gonna make another screw up P4 and let AMD catch up again.

If u dont know, the prime engineers team that design k6/Athlon/Athlon64 all left AMD due to bad management. AMD chip these days are use auto-craft tool that are less efficient than handcraft. Bulldozer are design by another diff engineer team.

Phenom II X4/X6 is nothing more than a tweak Athlon64. It is a 10yrs old architecture.

Bad management may be a cause of AMD to slow down, but autocrafting tools are also used by Intel from what I heard.

Intel does use autocrafting tools but the key component are still handcraft. No machine can replace human yet

in other words the current AMD engineers are dumb. If they are smart they wouldnt come out something shit like bulldozer. Bulldozer are shit in every way compared to Sandybrige. Its much bigger, more power hungry, slower, then to make things worst AMD sell it more expensive than 2500K.

Piledriver is not going to get AMD back into game since it offer only 10% IPC at best. Until AMD can increase IPC or Clock frequency like 50-60% they are pretty much doom.

ok, AMD not doing well in past with not much improvement in CPU but only GPU improved. but let's hope getting better on next. AMD roadmap:



AMD is outsourcing the manufacturing process to TSMC for 28nm manufacturing process. which is 3rd gen (codename: Steamroller) in year 2013:

and 4th gen (codename: Excavator) in year 2014.

but somehow, Intel already in 22nm technology for Ivy Bridge. Intel Haswell coming next year, and second gen of Haswell will be 14nm in future. long to go for AMD still....

This post has been edited by djlah: May 11 2012, 10:30 AM

they cant because the bulldozer is too expensive to make. Big chip. They are not generating profit by selling big amount chip @ break even.

Bulldozer is the reason I but my CHVF mobo. But, after that, it's totally disappointing. Now I'm stuck with my Phenom x2 560 BE which is stable after unlock the extra core and achieve 3.8Ghz. But now, thinking of jumping to Intel due to better performance of SB and IB. I really regret for upgrading my mobo first without waiting the Bulldozer benchmark. And it's a lifetime lesson for me

Piledriver need to clock 4GHz-4.5GHz+ or it will fail too.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5831/amd-tri...600m-a-new-hope
Mobile APU review is out.
A pretty nice boost in mobile part.

hope to see desktop APU from AnandTech next. today just got FM2 socket motherboard leak:



source

Should have read it the review first before buying amd FX series processor, now my RM370 aren't worth the performance, kinda felt cheated with all the havoc that amd made. Lesson learn.

What's wrong dude? Read review after buy? You should research first before buy. As for me, step up to AM3+ mobo without waiting FX released. That's the stupid thing I done.