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post Dec 4 2011, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(jonchai @ Dec 4 2011, 07:27 AM)
I believe the 2b transistor count was meant for Trinity with an on-die graphics processor, but their marketing people screwed up.
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Don't be so sure, read this
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post Dec 4 2011, 07:43 PM

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QUOTE(Eugene91 @ Dec 3 2011, 10:28 AM)
Well because AMD promotes it as a gaming proc? Their demos with Dirt 3 showing utilisation of all the 8 cores? hmm
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Dec 3 2011, 01:14 PM)
I think there is a huge improvement on the CPU just that Intel held back. IB is running on 77 TDP "could be largely factor by its IGP power consumption" and still performance slightly higher than SB.
with the disappointment on BD performance and power consumption and also not to overshadow SB-E probably the reason y Intel held back. Intel could make a 95 TDP IB but it would seriously destroy SB-E. hmm.gif
Anyway it just my opinion. biggrin.gif
Regardless it is interesting to see Intel put more effort on its IGP and it just matter of times for intel to catch up with red camp and green camp.
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Ivy Bridge running on 77 TDP bcoz of their changed of manufacturing structure they used they claimed energy efficient 3D Tri-gate method to manufacture their Ivy Bridge . For their IGP segment i3 with HD 3000 same graphical performance as an A4 series Llano proc , its just unbelievably disappointing .
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post Dec 5 2011, 04:03 PM

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On Trinity, A4, A6, A8 will still continue. interested to know how is the new A10 performance. need to wait at least AMD have release testing/engineering sample to reviewers for testing.
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post Dec 5 2011, 07:16 PM

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K series of Llano

Do you guys think its too late to launch the unlocked multiplier version of Llano??? FM1 is a dead end socket right?
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post Dec 6 2011, 07:30 AM

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New update: AMD has decided to stop shipping Phenom IIs and focus their firepower on BD and Llano. It will take around half a year for Phenom IIs to run dry. Those on Athlon, time to upgrade.
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QUOTE(k!nex @ Dec 5 2011, 07:16 PM)
K series of Llano

Do you guys think its too late to launch the unlocked multiplier version of Llano??? FM1 is a dead end socket right?
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Well, if they release an Athlon 631X Black Edition at its cheap price, I'm sure there are many enthusiasts who will disagree...

QUOTE(jonchai @ Dec 6 2011, 07:30 AM)
New update: AMD has decided to stop shipping Phenom IIs and focus their firepower on BD and Llano. It will take around half a year for Phenom IIs to run dry. Those on Athlon, time to upgrade.
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They need to ramp up Trinity production to meet OEM demand, since the 45nm and 32nm chips are produced in the same facility.

Here's an interesting thing to ponder: some rumours suggest a Piledriver-derived CPU in the Xbox 720. Would this make AMD the CPU for gamers again, due to future console ports being more optimized for their architecture?
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post Dec 6 2011, 09:26 PM

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amd a8 3850 is it a good buy for integrated graphic?

amd fx 4100 same price range with it but without graphic
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post Dec 6 2011, 10:11 PM

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If you want integrated graphics that can do games at 720p smoothly, the A8 is a pretty good buy.

FX-4100 is only better if you don't care about the power consumption AND if you're going to overclock it a lot.

If the integrated graphics isn't for games, and you're not overclocking, the i3 2100 is a much better buy since its processor is faster than those two AMD ones at stock speeds.
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post Dec 7 2011, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(yimingwuzere @ Dec 6 2011, 04:26 PM)
Well, if they release an Athlon 631X Black Edition at its cheap price, I'm sure there are many enthusiasts who will disagree...
They need to ramp up Trinity production to meet OEM demand, since the 45nm and 32nm chips are produced in the same facility.

Here's an interesting thing to ponder: some rumours suggest a Piledriver-derived CPU in the Xbox 720. Would this make AMD the CPU for gamers again, due to future console ports being more optimized for their architecture?
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I doubt so though. I still believe that they'd be using AMD gpu with IBM cell processors. Well, let's see how it turns out next year smile.gif
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post Dec 8 2011, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(jonchai @ Dec 7 2011, 01:55 PM)
I doubt so though. I still believe that they'd be using AMD gpu with IBM cell processors. Well, let's see how it turns out next year  smile.gif
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@.@ I thought rumoured Wii U gonna use the tri core IBM Proc along with AMD GPU , and Xbox720 using AMD Gpu and rumoured 6 core Proc not yet discloses its brand yet ?
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post Dec 16 2011, 12:01 PM

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Ms release a patch to AMD FX and Opteron based on Bulldozer core..

it improve perfomance by 4-10%

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2592546/
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post Dec 16 2011, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(adie82 @ Dec 16 2011, 12:01 PM)
Ms release a patch to AMD FX and Opteron based on Bulldozer core..

it improve perfomance by 4-10%

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2592546/
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This is a great initiative by Microsoft to enhance the performance of Bulldozer core. If things go on like this, it might turn out to be fine for AMD.

Now I am waiting for reviews/benchmarks on Bulldozer running patched Win7.
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post Dec 16 2011, 04:45 PM

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Some testing by forumer in overclock.net

I think the patch performance are noticeable for software using less than 8 threads, examples being games.
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post Dec 17 2011, 04:40 AM

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http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/2...ozer_Chips.html
UPDATE: Microsoft has pulled down the patch as it had been released prematurely. hmm.gif
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post Dec 19 2011, 07:00 PM

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Initial tests showed that it could improve performance by up to seven percent, before it was pulled -- Microsoft conceding that it wasn't quite ready for prime-time.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/18/microso...ing-bulldozers/
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post Dec 20 2011, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(Eugene91 @ Dec 19 2011, 07:00 PM)
Initial tests showed that it could improve performance by up to seven percent, before it was pulled -- Microsoft conceding that it wasn't quite ready for prime-time.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/18/microso...ing-bulldozers/
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7% will make it slightly above i5. Pretty good. Can't wait to see the actual release
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post Dec 21 2011, 06:31 AM

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Guys, I had just purchased Gigabyte 880GM-USB3, canI use this mobo with AMD Bulldozer? anyone can help me please...
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post Dec 21 2011, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(j.hafiz10 @ Dec 21 2011, 06:31 AM)
Guys, I had just purchased Gigabyte 880GM-USB3, canI use this mobo with AMD Bulldozer? anyone can help me please...
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What color is the CPU socket?
If it is black, then it supports BD. wink.gif
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post Dec 21 2011, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Dec 21 2011, 05:32 AM)
What color is the CPU socket?
If it is black, then it supports BD. wink.gif
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Omo! can know it from the colorof cpu socket only?btw, I heard that AMD Bulldozer is kinda fail product.Is it true? So, is it not worthy to buy it?
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post Dec 21 2011, 11:52 AM

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your mobo is suitable for the bulldozer aka FX cpu but must update the bios...erm no comment about the cpu...fail or not...ermmm i'm waiting for b3 stepping or piledriver...

sorry for that early comment...miss understand...

This post has been edited by zamx: Dec 21 2011, 12:00 PM

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