So do the motherboard issue do exist or not?

We've asked AMD to see if we can get some lower end models of Bulldozer, where its traditional price/performance advantages might be seen. We're also testing with motherboards other than the Crosshair V Formula to see what, if any, performance benefits may arise. But if you are one of those AMD fans desperately hanging out to hear that  a simple tweak will make Bulldozer awesome, then you should probably just accept the fact that while it’s a perfectly cromulent CPU, AMD has lost this round of the performance battle to its far more embiggened opponent.

any one have result of fx4100 vs i3

interest to know since there in same price range

Does AMD have other products in its pipeline?

the problem with bd is
although the front end got like 4 instruction decoder, but it is shared by two cores, and the decoder can only service 1 core at a time, contributing to its slowness in ST..
furthermore, each core only has 2 integer ALU compared to 4 in intel cpus starting fro C2D.. so you get the point why this BD performance is very underwhelming..
couple it with a long instruction pipeline and a very high latency cache..
and you got your self a very slow CPU

Confuse with all the technical talk.

For the first time I see a product that create so many discuss.

Bulldozer already in malaysia? I saw at czone pricelist yesterday..

look like for average home user Intel still the one that fulfill average need.

amd feel like mini home/0ffice server choice.

btw can I describe
i3 = regular sedan car
fx4100 = small van
i5 = mpv
fx6100 = large van
i7 = premium suv
fx8150 = double cabin/lorry

Bits and Pieces: Opteron 6200 CPUs

By Gennadiy Shvets
Tuesday October 18, 2011

Last week AMD introduced AMD FX processors, built on Bulldozer microarchitecture. FX-series are consumer-class CPUs, that feature from 4 to 8 cores, large level 3 cache, and improved Turbo Core technology. AMD also has plans to release large number of server-class "Bulldozer" processors, and the most powerful from them are Opteron 6200 with "Interlagos" core. These Opterons support quad-CPU configurations, and incorporate up to 16 cores.

Several known Opteron 6200 models were found in HP ProLiant DL165 G7 server datasheet (PDF file). The document contains partial specifications for Opteron 6212, 6220, 6234, 6238, 6272, 6274 and 6276 CPUs, that is almost all "Interlagos" chips with 115 Watt TDP:



Processor specifications match previously leaked ones, with the exception of core frequencies of three chips. Incorrect frequencies first appeared on configuration pages of Altus 2850GTi, 2800i and 1800i servers. Correct frequencies for Opteron 6212, 6234 and 6238 models are 2.6 GHz, 2.4 GHz and 2.6 GHz.

Opteron 6200 CPUs were available for pre-order in US on and before October 7. They disappeared in less than 12 hours after we published Pre-order prices of AMD Opteron 3200, 4200 and 6200 processors story. The CPUs are still listed in some non-US online stores, though. A few Norwegian shops have on pre-order a number of known 6200-series models, as well as new Opteron 6228 HE. If information in this and other online stores is correct, then the Opteron 6228 HE has 12 cores, 2.1 GHz clock speed, 16 MB L3 cache and 85 Watt TDP.

Exact launch date of Opteron 6200 microprocessors at this time is unknown. In September, one of AMD press releases stated that "Interlagos is expected to launch and be available in partner systems in the fourth quarter of this year.". Our suspicion is that the processors may get launched this or next week. The reasoning behind this is quite simple. In September, AMD announced preliminary third quarter results, and they were lower than originally anticipated. The final Q3 results will be reported on October 27. There is no doubt that final results will be in line with preliminary results, i.e. worse than original forecast. Releasing new product line before this date may help AMD to soften the blow, and divert attention from bad financial news to more positive product launch news. The closer the launch of new CPUs to October 27, the better it will work. Of course, this is only a guess, and it maybe incorrect.

saw the fx4100 with asrock 990fx at c3x today , fx4100 worth ?

Have they reduced the price of Bulldozer in Malaysia already? Following the US price drop

saw the fx4100 with asrock 990fx at c3x today , fx4100 worth ?

saw the fx4100 with asrock 990fx at c3x today , fx4100 worth ?

Asrock's 990FX boards offer really good price for the features I'd say. Still wondering if the FX-4100 can be core unlocked on that board though. Why don't you try and give it a go with that? 

AMD released the list of errors bulldozer

Since the Pentium bug in the mid 90s it has become customary that Intel released its processors to fault lists in which the errata are listed in detail. These are technical documents that are not aimed at end users, but developers of compilers, drivers and BIOS updates, because they describe the circumstances under which the errors occur and how to handle, so the end user is not bothered them. That a component such as a processor with several 100 million circuits may not be accurate, results from the sheer complexity.

For several years, AMD also released errata lists - here called a revision guide. With the introduction of the K10 Barcelona AMD had drawn the ire of the public, since they had missed it a known bug that was sufficiently severe that the delivery of an entire CPU family for the server space needed to be stopped to document. Three months. Only shortly before the introduction of error-free B3 steppings was also known as errata list (from the Latin Erratum: Error) added. An unfortunate practice that was then much room for rumors, myths and speculations. AMD has since tried the revision guide always timely to update the products. With the introduction of the AMD FX processors yesterday, and thus the introduction of the first completely new CPU architecture since 1999, AMD has also the appropriate revision guide published. There are 39 errata listed. This is still surprisingly little, and it will not remain, of course, because many errors are only discovered "in the field":



Surprisingly, and in this way never previously seen such is the fact that it is all about mistakes is that AMD does not plan to fix with future steppings. Everywhere "No planned fix". This could be a good sign, but no serious bug seems to be there that should not circumvent with a few custom MSR register entries. So everything seems to be in the green zone.

However, the BIOS and Kernel Developer's Guide (BKDG) for AMD Family 15h 00h-0Fh Processors models one step further. While the AMD FX processors, all of them were released yesterday in OR B2 stepping (OR = mask = B2 Stepping) were made, are already listed in the Dev Guide bulldozer with B3 stepping. Because the revision guide, but they are still missing, we can not even speculate at this point, what improvements vs. B3. B2 will bring.

Related links:

    AMD updated errata list (for K10)
    AMD 15h (bulldozer) Revision Guide
    AMD Bulldozer FX Test
    AMD FX-Bulldozer architecture analysis (Part 1)
    User News: Bulldozers soon with a new B3 Stepping OR?

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Bulldozers soon with a new B3 Stepping OR?

If you look at the "BIOS and Kernel Developer's Guide (BKDG) for AMD Family 15h 00h-0Fh Processors Models" on page 27 looks can ask yourself the following question by:

Coming soon a new (better) OR B3 stepping as the successor of just "started" OR B2?



After all, AMD released not happen very often about new (not yet published) steppings in their public documents!

Mini Summary:
OR-B2 had yet come out with it this year bulldozers, OR-B3 is (very) soon - hopefully better and faster so it goes back UPHILL with AMD

Source: http://support.amd.com/us/Processor_TechDocs/42301.pdf Ver. 3:00 Page 27