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 Nokia N8 V3, Coming Soon!!!

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post Sep 7 2010, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(andrekua @ Sep 7 2010, 05:01 PM)
Honestly, its been quite a long time since I last read tech news day in day out.

But Im pretty sure for handphone, its still the basic ROM, RAM and STORAGE. Im not sure how N900 get this swap, most probably via external NAND or just partition a part of the internal 32GB. However, no matter how you do it, it still sucks la. Otherwise why would MS push for cheaper RAM to boost our Windows experience. I think give Maemo to anyone, SE or Samsung, I think result will be 2x of what Nokia can achieve. The thing with Nokia is that, Symbian appear to be too big to crumble. Given the potential of Maemo, its not surprising they are holding it back to make it look less bad for Symbian.
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from what i know, Maemo is based on a Debian linux distro, so it's not surprising that it would have a virtual memory which is found on pc OS. Virtual memory normally uses part of your storage, in this case, part of the 32GB memory. Yeah, ram would be better, but nokia likes to cut cost mah...why put 512MB ram when they can have 256ram + 768MB virtual memory to do the work, virtual memory is an OS feature nia, no additional cost de. Virtual memory is not often used also, and phone apps don take up that much memory that it would use up 256MB with just one single app running i guess. I don think maemo will do better in the hands of SE..last i recall their UIQ was rather crappy..maybe samsung...

I agree on you on the potential of maemo, but if you notice, the way nokia market it, N900 is more like hardcore phone user's gear..they support on heavy modding and even give you instructions to do that. Majority people(like most uncle aunty out there) just one something easy to use mah, and nokia normally targets them lo
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post Sep 7 2010, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Sep 7 2010, 05:08 PM)
DLNA is useless features. Never used DLNA with my SGS.
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i suppose it's something like HDMI cable on N8 also, one of the 'good to have cos it's high tech' feature..maybe half of us will just sue it 1-2 times and forget about it, and only the rare few of us will use on regular basis..haha..

anyway i never really think DLNA is needed on phone, it's just adding extra cost to the phone IMO
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post Sep 7 2010, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(sklchan @ Sep 7 2010, 05:14 PM)
from what i understand is the bigger memory u reserved for the OS to use (standby mode) the more power u gonna lost for keeping it active... battery ohhhh battery drainnnnnn.....  sweat.gif
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hmm...in this case 768MB isnt that much i guess?? i don really know cos i don touch those things on desktop..plus, i tot virtual memory will not be touched if the RAM itself is not full?
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post Sep 7 2010, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(andrekua @ Sep 7 2010, 05:17 PM)
UIQ3 is hampered by poor memory management while at the same time, it too has limited amount of physical memory.

SE transform Symbian OS9.1 into something we seen in 5800XM. I did mentioned the similar UI with M600i compared to 5800XM. Four shortcut and 3 touch buttons at the bottom. When was M600i released? If only SE choose the better hardware...

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the time gap betweek 5800 and M600i is really because the slow adapt of nokia in touch screen market..which i am very disappointed. If only they adopted to touch screen earlier instead of being all ignorant about the whole touch screen transition...and actually 206Mhz processor back then was pretty decent lar...

looking on the UI, i say it's just not bad, it just look like Symbian with SE Skin..and the home screen from what i notice, is pretty much just standby apps and calender/memo swap position and everything is bigger for easier touch screen navigation..but i guess it does it job..and yeah, it's out at 2006, so i cant really complain much
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post Sep 7 2010, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(andrekua @ Sep 7 2010, 05:26 PM)
Fast Wireless + video decoding = power hungry... hong long your battery gonna last?

I tried wifi teethering with 5800XM, fully charged also last less than 1hr.
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i tried bluetooth tethering, did not last long also...and really overheat @@
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post Sep 7 2010, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(andrekua @ Sep 7 2010, 05:25 PM)
Er, issit really single chip? More like Apple A4 la, they try to shrink them enough to fit all of the chip into one silicon, like X2,X4 or X6.
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on a not too related topic, x2, x4, x6 are true single chip multicore, while the intel i-series+ intel HD graphic is like what u mention, shrink small enough and put into a single DIE
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post Sep 7 2010, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(BuFung @ Sep 7 2010, 05:46 PM)
the word tethering there la brother..  doh.gif 
wu.. donno which NO BALLERS go and report my post of photo..  so no balls...  rolleyes.gif
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lol..those taken from Hong Kong movies?
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post Sep 7 2010, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(jackyoboy @ Sep 7 2010, 05:50 PM)
good stuff of course people copy  tongue.gif
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his one is kena report ler


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QUOTE(BuFung @ Sep 7 2010, 05:50 PM)
smile.gif 

only No Baller do thing behind ppl...  smile.gif 
nevermind la.. dont kira wt noBall...
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lol...dunno they report for what..i think those pictures are pretty funny laugh.gif

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post Sep 7 2010, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(BuFung @ Sep 7 2010, 05:56 PM)
dont k la...
Donno why Nokia can make a phone slicker with qwerty than a candy bar full touch screen N8...  sweat.gif

The E7.... 

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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QUOTE(sklchan @ Sep 7 2010, 05:57 PM)
to keep some hand for "future devices" lah  doh.gif
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sensor size back to normal phone hence eliminate the huge space being used by the camera in N8?
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post Sep 7 2010, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(andrekua @ Sep 7 2010, 05:59 PM)
Because using AMOLED saves space?
I think N8 is huge because its one solid piece... If seperated pieces, I think will be much thinner.
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N8 uses AMOLED too..and i recall on the interview with Nokia's guy(forgot what's the name, it's on gsmarena), he mention that n8 has to be made into one piece so that it will not look so bulky..the same reason the battery is not removable
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post Sep 7 2010, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(jackyoboy @ Sep 7 2010, 06:04 PM)
i recalled super AMOLED saves even more space
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yeap. it also performs better then AMOLED under sunlight too. It's because AMOLED has seperate touch detection layer and display layer, while in SuperAMOLED the 2 layers are combine. Not only it saves more space, it also eliminates the extra inner reflection, letting more lights out, hence having better brightness and look better under sunlight

QUOTE(BuFung @ Sep 7 2010, 06:04 PM)
If I am not mistaken...  N8 owner have to bring another USB cable out if wanna transfer anything in USB I guess...  don't think that port directly support USB without the converter...
Correct me if I am wrong...
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yeah..i remember from the USD OTG video(didnt really finish)..the person that did the demo uses some extra converter cable
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post Sep 7 2010, 10:42 PM

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am i the only one still hoping on the nokia rangers? lol....

actually, it makes me think, why suddenly they need our info instead of money if this is a scam??


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QUOTE(andrekua @ Sep 7 2010, 10:39 PM)
Too new for me.. I'm noob, remember?
Only pro can explain.. RAM I know la.. but my year 2003 punya IT knowledge too outdated to know how it would possibly work. Explaining why pig fly is my current level..
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post Sep 7 2010, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(BuFung @ Sep 7 2010, 10:50 PM)
BBXiong ur MCMC project successful ah??  TMnut thumbup.gif
to be honest i didnt really bother edi...i don even check the thread nowadays...so many people ranting, but so little people wanna join the complain...somemore i just don have time for that recently, work's driving me crazy..some nice thing like a free N8 would make me feel happy..lol

QUOTE(BuFung @ Sep 7 2010, 10:50 PM)
I just found out what is NAND RAM...

Dr Nand Ram MD Internal Medicine Physician...  he is a physician...

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so this has nothing to do with tech eh..no wonder andre dunno...haha


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QUOTE(andrekua @ Sep 7 2010, 10:53 PM)
No, what possibly happened is that they initially think maybe wanna include some user amongst the reviewers but it didn't work out. Maybe we will still get invites to the product launch and that just it. I don't know what will happened now, but that's my assumption.
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i do have another assumption that might make some little sense...
u see, smashpOp and other tech reviewers already been invited to an N8 event, which is what we saw on their respective blogs..i think they only get to hands on with the gear for that few hours...as for us, if(i say if) we are getting the retail package for the Rangers kick off, i think nokia need to finalize what to include in their retail package..and i think that is the pending thing that is dragging the product kick off...or else i suppose it wont beed until end of september also, need to mass produce and finalize retail package...

then again that's my very optimistic thought...

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post Sep 7 2010, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(BuFung @ Sep 7 2010, 10:59 PM)
Free N8...  keep dreaming...  maybe NOkia give out 1 Nokia to all Rangers...  1 of them get the phone..  laugh.gif
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ouch...maybe in my dreams i will have an N8 as my totem
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post Sep 7 2010, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(zero_kbom @ Sep 7 2010, 11:12 PM)
Well....from my experience of getting into the Nokia Music Explorer program before, for the launching of X6, its is true as u said. Before the program kick off, the bloggers were 1st given a hands on to the phone in a separate event beforehand.
That's why I still have hopes on the program itself nod.gif

And please, make this thread as constructive as it can.
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so you get an x6 from that event? and how much later is the event kick off from the blogger's hands on?
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post Sep 7 2010, 11:35 PM

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QUOTE(zero_kbom @ Sep 7 2010, 11:30 PM)
~Me dun wanna feed the epic phailed troll whistling.gif

Well, although I said like dat, for this program, I also doesn't even know if Nokia will give us free N8. Because before this, it was stated clearly that we will get an X6 in the invitation. But it was quite vague on this one.
Well, just keep our finger crossed then icon_rolleyes.gif
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well, in the official statement from the nokia's whatever manager(cant remember) from Radiance's email, it says that "we will present a new N8 for your own use"...i believe that translate as "we give u N8, u help build more hype out there"


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QUOTE(andrekua @ Sep 7 2010, 11:35 PM)
One piece design is very nice. No creeks... to some extend better than my Legend as the plastic/rubberized cover is screwed to the alu body. One thing I like a lot is the uncovered micro usb. I really think the covered USB is very 'ma fan'. Worse if you broke it and it look ugly. And then again making a good decision to cover the HDMI slot which is rarely used.
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but i want replaceable battery cry.gif

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post Sep 7 2010, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(zero_kbom @ Sep 7 2010, 11:45 PM)
Well, although I want to believe on that, but its too vague. It can be that we will given the phone for just a hands on in the event itself. icon_rolleyes.gif
But I wouldn't say that I dun wan getting a free N8. LOL laugh.gif
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same here...in fact, as much as i am interested, i don think i would get this phone if i were to buy it..Symbian 3 is new, and there's no guarantee Symbian 4 would be ported for it...i want something that is more future proof..
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post Sep 8 2010, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(andrekua @ Sep 7 2010, 11:50 PM)
Have you ever seen a Nokia Symbian phone getting newer version of S60? New firmware but not new revision...
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once, N81, from FP1 to FP2
put that aside...that's why i said what i said...hope nokia will change this..i mean, wont a standardized OS version ease out app devs also?

QUOTE(zero_kbom @ Sep 7 2010, 11:53 PM)
Well, TBH, I dun mind actually if I were using an outdated OS. Because, im already used to do so LOL. This comes from a still active Palm OS user laugh.gif
And outdated or not, Symbian^3 still sumhow maintains app compatibility with both S60v5, Symbian^4 and Meego. In such a way, apps is not a problem for me. As long as Nokia still roll out updates to iron out the bugs, thats not a big issue for me. icon_rolleyes.gif

And if I ought to buy a Symbian^3 phone, E7 will be my choice. Coz I need hardware keyboard laugh.gif
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i get what u mean, it's like N82 still gets update a while back, which is great, but still, we would still hope that it's been updated to FP2, with theme effects and all...there are some extra features that new OS has, and new firmware just cant/wont add. I believe maybe this is nokia's stratergy to push users to get new phone gua...

agree with u, since S3 devices will have GPU, i believe 3D games will come, and i will need hardware keyboard for that purpose too..hehe
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post Sep 8 2010, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(BuFung @ Sep 8 2010, 09:37 AM)
u dont have to worry la bro... ranger program...  U will get 1 free....  RM50+- up n down toll fees + RM50 petrol...  well worth...  biggrin.gif
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and also 9 hours driving..lol..coming to the event, attend, ciao after event, 9 hours
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post Sep 8 2010, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(cloud8318 @ Sep 8 2010, 10:20 AM)
come early few day ar? night time sleep under the tree? my car beh tahan petrol le sweat.gif
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well, once in a while enjoying mother nature aint a bad idea too you know..lolz

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