wonder why you guys can defend rafa with lack of transfer fund excuses but not RH. besides, it's not like RH has been managing the club like 5-6 years. and most of the players is from rafa era.

swiss team go into worldcup for first time in many decades, when he arrive inter finish last season one point from relegation, inter finish 3th before he leave

I have never seen such bad spells in Rafa before, with Rafa, we may lose or draw, but we can say we deserved the win. But I can never say the same with Roy Hodgson. PLUS, his pre and post game comments are terrible and not forgetting a manager who doesn't do anything other than rubbing his hands with his face, looking at his watch is not the kind of manager we want.

Roy is not a `bad' manager....its just that from the performances so far...Liverpool is just not a threat...to anyone...you'll feel that Wigan, Wolves and even Blackpool will now fancy a win if they entertain Liverpool at home...

hence..the worry is if Roy is good for mid-table clubs or minnow countries looking to pull some surprising results to survive or qualify for World Cup..

but in Liverpool...its different..

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Added on September 23, 2010, 10:32 ampity him also, coming in with many baggages and when the club is in turmoil..but the point is this is still a team with international stars.......it might not be in a time where they can challenge for top 2 ...but its still a good team..man for man....

why the dull performances on the pitch?

This post has been edited by nando: Sep 23 2010, 10:33 AM

Fair enough for the Swiss team, can't take credit away from him.

Inter Milan has always been fighting for positions at the top, 3rd place finishing ain't nothing special and what was the reason he left Inter Milan again?

Not forgetting his bad spell in Blackburn Rovers.

I can't deny that he's good at bringing the best out of midtable teams, but he has no winning record, we Liverpool deserve better.

give me a reason why the team deserve better when the players themselves don't offer their best?

I kinda prefer Martin O'Neil for what he has achieved with numerous clubs with minimal budget (eg Celtics and most recently Aston Villa).

However I do feel that Liverpool needs a big name manager, ie someone the players respect. Someone the players will be inspired by and will play wholeheartedly for.

The manager looked clueless, didn't do shit, kept rubbing his face. So is it not the manager's job to motivate the players mate? The fact is, he could have shouted at the players to run, give instructions, you don't see Sammy Lee going down as often as he did.

Like I said, we have never been this clueless for such a long time before, but this season, is really really bad, which makes me think, whether Souness would have done a better job

f*** RH... When Rafa first joined, he gave us beautiful and miraculous football... But RH, pathetic tactics and man management...

inter milan in the 90s was their dark ages, RH was there during a rebuilding time, he also rebuild fulham from relegation zone to europa league finalist, i believe this is why he go the job at liverpool, to rebuild a club that are in decline.

I remember when Rafa just joined, he introduced flair to us, with signings like Alonso and Garcia. Took scrubs to the Champions League final and gave AC Milan a shocking defeat, en route to the final, a wonder goal from Luis Garcia against Gianluigi Buffon, Gerrard's strike against Olympiakos. Those are just memories now, damn!

seriously Souness? you dont remember what a disaster he was last time? he is also bad in buying player, even got con in to buying Ali Dia

I may sound like an ass here but since when were we in a decline? We were still genuine last season, we had 2 world class players compared to the other teams. We have Torres to change the game and bring flair in instead of being played as a freaking target man. We have Gerrard to make great runs instead of staying deep. How many times have Gerrard saved us by making those runs, those inspirational crosses, those inspirational long shots?

People were critical towards zonal defence, but we are no better now, in fact worse. So what has RH done? Skrtel is suppose to be a decent defender, but he looked more like a Titus Bramble to me this season. Jamie's off form now, so we shouldn't play Soto or Agger? I have never seen a more clueless Liverpool team, I hate to call on our gaffer's head just after a few games but we are no Fulham, we want to win, against anybody, even Man Utd, not content with a F**KING DRAW!!!!!!

You can have your views over Roy Hodgson all you want. I was content with Roy Hodgson as well but he wasn't doing anything, so why bother signing a manager? That's my point of view, a manager should be able to impress the fans in the media or at the very least, show some tactics. Why are we so vulnerable these days in defense? And we were one of the best at keeping clean sheets.

and what happened next?

Oh yeah, the 4-1 thumping against Man Utd.

I can't believe Liv cannot beat a league two team.
I even can't believe Liv hardly tested a league two GK.

I didn't watch the match, is Liv still being bombarded by opponent goal as usual as for the last 5 league games? and by a league two team?
Somemore it is played at Anfield!!

This post has been edited by cherroy: Sep 23 2010, 11:11 AM

lol...my point was, he unable to bring the club further after a promising season season, not once but twice. and RH was only incharge for how many games? Give him a break, at least till Jan.
you can give rafa what, 5-6 seasons, but not to RH till Jan?

This post has been edited by likeicare: Sep 23 2010, 11:14 AM

For what it's worth, United was beaten by Leeds last season in FA Cup. LOL.

That being said, IMO, RH should have lifted the spirits of his players by trying winning something. Realistically, you guys have a good chance in Carling and FA Cup. Big teams would want to field either their second XI or youngsters in Carling cup.

Again, IMO, by winning either of this cups, it should lift player's spirit and self-motivation.

you look at it from the `macro' view..and you have a point...if Rafa is given that much time and still cant produce what matters, why the judgement on RH after less than 4-5 months in charge...

but for me, i also look at it from the `micro' view....ie the 90 minutes of football...Roy has managed Liverpool against strong teams, midtable teams and last night...a team couple of divisions below us...

putting the results aside...the worrying thing is for most of the 90 minutes...our football do not threaten the opposition AT ALL......very dull and unimaginative football...


that's why over in North London, there are still a hugh group of `Wenger must stay' followers despite the barren cabinet.....because they still see promising football every week....

This post has been edited by nando: Sep 23 2010, 11:24 AM