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abit Fatal1ty AN8 for AMD 64bit, Overclocking ability...
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anyone use it? how about overclockability?
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dude...DFI would b a better choice...
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http://www.insanetek.com/index.php?page=df...yutnf4ultra-d_1
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ultra-d is not sli wat
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u can always use just one pcie slot what? ... duh...
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QUOTE(soulfly @ May 4 2005, 11:25 PM) u can always use just one pcie slot what? ... duh... haha if only use one, then i think better not to buy SLi mainboard   |
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dfi ultra-d is non sLi board..
but it has the same layout as the big brithers.. uV stuff too;) |
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QUOTE(sidewinderz @ May 4 2005, 10:41 PM) http://www.insanetek.com/index.php?page=df...yutnf4ultra-d_1 check this out, you might find it interesting and consider DFI... sorry for the double post.. QUOTE Ultra-D vs. Fatal1ty AN8: Both motherboards are great overclockers and both are built with gaming in mind. So which is the better board? Straight from the facts, we can see that the Ultra-D is a better board. But if you put consider all aspects of a motherboard, it can be a tough choice. The DFI Ultra-D is honestly the best overclocking motherboard available. The voltage options are great and the frequency ceiling seems too high to reach. The bad part about the board is that the layout plainly sucks. It causes compatibility issues as well as cooling issues. The Abit Fatal1ty AN8 also provides great overclocking headroom, but not as great as the Ultra-D. The lack of VDIMM makes memory choice limited to using TCCD chips. Users looking to use the new BH5 for low latencies will be quite disappointed. You can go out and get the OCZ DDR Booster to increase your VDIMM options, but you'll be drawing power from the 3.3v rail and probably be limited to 3.4v. In order to get some good voltages, you'll need to do a power supply mod to stabilize that 3.3v rail. The Fatal1ty AN8 does provide better motherboard layout. While this in no way affects performance, it does allow better arrangement of cables and better cooling. Users can use waterblocks for their Northbridge or large heatsinks for both the graphic card and the CPU. As for cooling, while no tests are conducted, the Fatal1ty AN8 does run cooler. With the DFI Ultra-D under load, I can feel heat emanating from the motherboard. The Fatal1ty AN8 didn't have this strange heat wave. In terms of looks, I personally like the Fatal1ty AN8. The fiery red PCB and red motherboard LED's looks great in windowed cases. I guess it really comes down to the user's preference. If you want pure power, you can't go wrong with the Ultra-D. It is a bottleneck-free motherboard aimed to get the most of all your components. If you want both performance AND looks, the Fatal1ty AN8 is the better route. I'm sure that the majority of enthusiasts will go for the Ultra-D because of the great overclocking potential. As a gamer who owns both boards, the Fatal1ty AN8 goes in my gaming rig while the Ultra-D goes in my test bench. I'm the type who likes to frag with style. Since I don't have the fragging skills, I'll have an pretty overclocked box to back me up. wonder here.... in that review tell us DFI ultra D is the best oc board... but why not win this banchmark...     so... which is the best mainboard... i've to make decision before build new AMD 64bit system.... This post has been edited by syazone: May 5 2005, 09:02 AM |
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May 5 2005, 09:14 AM
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coz that bencmark at stock speed..
when going for boost, dFi gives more options n tweaks |
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May 5 2005, 09:15 AM
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common sense... ABIT comes with low vDimm, so you're limited with those super expensive TCCDs... on the DFI side... you get 4.0vDimm where u can have multiple choice on rams... my best bet would be UTTs as they're cheaper than TCCDs, and they do massive clockspeeds with super tight timings... tighter than the TCCDs... here's the biggest point to point out here among those boards
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QUOTE(ah_chak @ May 5 2005, 09:15 AM) common sense... ABIT comes with low vDimm, so you're limited with those super expensive TCCDs... on the DFI side... you get 4.0vDimm where u can have multiple choice on rams... my best bet would be UTTs as they're cheaper than TCCDs, and they do massive clockspeeds with super tight timings... tighter than the TCCDs... here's the biggest point to point out here among those boards TCCD expensive meh???hihihihih....DFI lar bro...end of story...dun go abit....abit NF-7S finish aledi...hahahaha...  |
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May 5 2005, 11:58 AM
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Ultra D can SLI also..but you need the PCIe bridge...
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May 5 2005, 12:37 PM
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QUOTE(sidewinderz @ May 5 2005, 11:58 AM) Ultra D can SLI also..but you need the PCIe bridge... huh??? how does the PCIe bridge u mentioned look like..???  |
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May 5 2005, 12:54 PM
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Get Fatal1ty.... 4 phase power + otes ram.... onboard otes... moffet cooler... stable clock man.........
better layout...cooper heatsink.......sound card off board... and have optical out..... what DFI have? think about it...... |
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May 5 2005, 01:32 PM
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DFI fan please beat this....
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QUOTE(cyberloner @ May 5 2005, 01:32 PM) DFI fan please beat this.... i wonder that why the vcore shown by cpu-z and EQ got so big different From ABIT OC AN8 Fatal1ty  |
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QUOTE(sidewinderz @ May 5 2005, 11:58 AM) Ultra D can SLI also..but you need the PCIe bridge... Huh! r u sure bout that?  |
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May 5 2005, 02:28 PM
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Yup, and u have to do some pencil trick...
Guys, Fatality AN8 is a great board but less ocing options compared to DFI... @ Cyberloner---is that ur board? I mean the result posted... Great---- This post has been edited by PCcrazy: May 5 2005, 02:31 PM |
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May 5 2005, 02:34 PM
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 eat this... from a DFI LP UT NF3 250GB it's tamp0i's system |
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May 5 2005, 02:58 PM
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 no MSI Neo2 Nforce3 meh???? uwaaaaaaa...... DFI 4 = 429 Abit = 385   |
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MSI seems to be making some really good overclocking mobo for AMD lately, like the K8N Neo2/K8N-Neo4. As for abit vs DFI, i would definitely go for DFI, cos i like UV
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DFI dude, DFI.....
btw, if you want a cheaper but well ocing board i'd recommend the chaintech vnf4 ultra. reached 400 mhz htt. |
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May 5 2005, 03:20 PM
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still confuse to choose DFI or abit.... DFI got suck design.... but more OCability.... any abit Fatal1ty AN8 user? post ur comment here...
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QUOTE(Dead__Man @ May 5 2005, 03:05 PM) DFI dude, DFI..... times wat HTT..??? btw, if you want a cheaper but well ocing board i'd recommend the chaintech vnf4 ultra. reached 400 mhz htt. X3 or X4 ??? |
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May 5 2005, 03:23 PM
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QUOTE(syazone @ May 5 2005, 03:20 PM) still confuse to choose DFI or abit.... DFI got suck design.... but more OCability.... any abit Fatal1ty AN8 user? post ur comment here... buy both lar...easier to do comparison...if ask we ppl at LYP..sure we dun go bang for the buck....we will go for BRAGGIN Rights....hahahahahah  |
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May 5 2005, 04:55 PM
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that is not winchester 939
are you blind? can't read well? This post has been edited by cyberloner: May 5 2005, 04:56 PM |
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QUOTE(cyberloner @ May 5 2005, 04:55 PM) that is not winchester 939 Wah! rilex boss.... are you blind? can't read well? Syazone : Definitely go for DFI. |
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QUOTE(gsan @ May 5 2005, 01:43 PM) i wonder that why the vcore shown by cpu-z and EQ got so big different That's because some power supply is not supported by CPUZQUOTE(antonio_zth @ May 5 2005, 02:58 PM) no MSI Neo2 Nforce3 meh???? uwaaaaaaa...... DFI 4 = 429 Abit = 385 and chipset............ |
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May 5 2005, 05:11 PM
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AN8 Fatal1ty Overclocking...
 
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Nice to see you here TICTAC !
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QUOTE(antonio_zth @ May 5 2005, 03:22 PM) times wat HTT..??? http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware...f4ultra/12.htmlX3 or X4 ??? seems the htt multi had some probs, though this is easily fixed with a bios update. |
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QUOTE(cyberloner @ May 5 2005, 05:10 PM) That's because some power supply is not supported by CPUZ wtf? dude, a psu sends POWER down the line, not DATA. |
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May 5 2005, 05:29 PM
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wanna know go buy cheap power supply lor.........
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May 5 2005, 05:32 PM
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AN8 Fatal1ty from the outside...
AN8 Fatal1ty Power ON.. 
AN8 Fatal1ty Memory Tweaking.. 
AN8 Fatal1ty Kickin'... 
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May 5 2005, 05:38 PM
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That's a nice clock!
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offtopic:
wohh, bro tictac, long time no see.. some extreeme oC p/s: can u doanything to epox 9nda3+ bios? aka more vcore? [mine rev 1.x] n btw, my epox can do htt340, n thats on 8x multi [2.7+ghz] (9nda3+ is known with low vcore tweak) This post has been edited by e-jump: May 5 2005, 05:46 PM |
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i also thinking to get Abit AN8 Fatal1ty, when the SLI version will release.
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QUOTE(e-jump @ May 5 2005, 05:43 PM) offtopic: From what i know... AMD64 with more vcore won't help in OC cause CPU have limit ...wohh, bro tictac, long time no see.. some extreeme oC p/s: can u doanything to epox 9nda3+ bios? aka more vcore? [mine rev 1.x] n btw, my epox can do htt340, n thats on 8x multi [2.7+ghz] (9nda3+ is known with low vcore tweak) |
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May 5 2005, 07:15 PM
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TQ bro tictac & cyberloner
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May 5 2005, 07:19 PM
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imho, abit an8 is a damn good overclocker but DFI is simply better. check the ocing results. dfi constantly scores higher.
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QUOTE(cyberloner @ May 5 2005, 06:13 PM) From what i know... AMD64 with more vcore won't help in OC cause CPU have limit ... yes agree.. n the cpu limit is 1.7vbut with 1.6v vcore limit thats the max i can go. i think if i got 0.1v extra, i can go further.. coz other board r up to 1.7v This post has been edited by e-jump: May 6 2005, 08:58 AM |
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May 6 2005, 06:51 PM
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well...the board is certainly capable of reaching that speeds, but it all draws down to the processor and ram that is paired with it...do some research before purchasing (like me...looking for good 3500+ processor
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QUOTE(syazone @ May 6 2005, 06:16 PM) izzit true? up to 313mhz HTT  Attached thumbnail(s) 
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anymore fan boys here want to say something before i close this thread?
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AN8 Fatal1ty SLi
 Source : http://www.technoa.co.kr/content/View.asp?pPageID=57474 With Guru front panel around 110 + VAT Source : http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=22994 Anyway the voltage option looks serious at 0.05V increasement Adjustable VTT voltage & new VTT divider ddr/2 Hope they back in game the ABIT AN8 Fatal1ty SLI Vdimm : 2.50V - 3.55V Vtt voltage: 1.25v ~ 1.75v and DDR/2 
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May 13 2005, 05:18 PM
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Yes ABIT Build to KILL...
my Precious http://www.abit-usa.com/products/mb/techsp...ies=1&model=246 New uGURU Clock http://www.abit.com.tw/upload/products/guru-panel.htm This post has been edited by cyberloner: May 13 2005, 05:30 PM |
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QUOTE(tictac @ May 12 2005, 07:20 PM) AN8 Fatal1ty SLi wow.... nice one... Source : http://www.technoa.co.kr/content/View.asp?pPageID=57474 With Guru front panel around 110 + VAT Source : http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=22994 Anyway the voltage option looks serious at 0.05V increasement Adjustable VTT voltage & new VTT divider ddr/2 Hope they back in game the ABIT AN8 Fatal1ty SLI Vdimm : 2.50V - 3.55V Vtt voltage: 1.25v ~ 1.75v and DDR/2
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QUOTE(gsan @ May 5 2005, 01:43 PM) i wonder that why the vcore shown by cpu-z and EQ got so big different CPU-Z Ver 1.29* New PCI devices report. * Switch for VCore report in .ini file. * VCore report on some uGuru mainboards. * Improved clocks computation. * Improved support for latest AMD CPUs, Celeron D 3x1 (EM64T). * Improved support for SiS 649, 650 and 656 chipsets, Intel 915PM chipset. * Improved stability when several instances of CPU-Z are running in the same time. * Restored html report in ghost mode (see "Parameters" chapter above). Your question is answered.... Thanks for care ahout my vcore.... |
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ABIT Fatal1ty AN8  |
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b4 i got consider about this board also but i won't use SLI, so i go for AX8, not bad also
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DFI....you wont regret it....
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Guys, was just wondering bout the CMOS switch on the Fatal1ty mobo. Shud b quite easy for us to do the same right? Just plug in 3 wires to the CMOS point n put a switch at the end of it to switch between 1-2, 2-3. Anybody tried it b4?
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ABIT FATAL1TY AN8 SLI
You won't regret too dun want SLI go for FATAL1TY AN8 This post has been edited by cyberloner: Jun 10 2005, 01:24 AM |
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Dude don't go for SLI unless you plan to SLI 2 6800Gt's ... if you plan to SLI 6600GT... it's better you buy one 6800 ultra or Gt...look at the SLI board after installing the Card you got hardly any place for normal PCI cards alredi....put one Audigy zs there,..gone...normally a 6600GT's fan will encroach onto the next PCI slot..... don't get SLI unless you plan to SLI the HIGHEST end card... because 2 SLI cards give you lots of Power, but also cost you lots of power and create lots of heat...... In my opinion SLI isn't that good an idea, DFI overclocks better but Abit offers better package.., at lyp i think you can find Fatal1ty for RM630, DFI around RM700,... but if you really want SLI... I think DFI lanparty is the only way to go.
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Jun 11 2005, 11:58 PM
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anyway.DFI can support to go higher fsb n vdimm as well..
i got fren using Abit fatality,it's really stable n look cool |
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Jun 12 2005, 02:34 PM
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No doubt the Fatal1ty is a great board, but most hardcore OCers still using DFI
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Emm this two board got it own Pro n Cons
It need to c whatever wat kind of user u r Wan powerful OC go 4 DFI abit look great wif it OTES but OC litter lose to DFI.. |
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Maybe it is still in beta bios..
hope new bios is better.... i buy for RM59X but you all buy for RM 7xx =P This post has been edited by cyberloner: Jun 13 2005, 01:55 AM |
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QUOTE(kar2on @ Jun 11 2005, 11:14 PM) Dude don't go for SLI unless you plan to SLI 2 6800Gt's ... if you plan to SLI 6600GT... it's better you buy one 6800 ultra or Gt...look at the SLI board after installing the Card you got hardly any place for normal PCI cards alredi....put one Audigy zs there,..gone...normally a 6600GT's fan will encroach onto the next PCI slot..... don't get SLI unless you plan to SLI the HIGHEST end card... because 2 SLI cards give you lots of Power, but also cost you lots of power and create lots of heat...... In my opinion SLI isn't that good an idea, DFI overclocks better but Abit offers better package.., at lyp i think you can find Fatal1ty for RM630, DFI around RM700,... but if you really want SLI... I think DFI lanparty is the only way to go. But the 6600GT SLI is so much cheaper than 1 6800 Ultra. N most reviews say that 2X6600GTs r as good n even better in some aspects than the 6800 Ultra. Actually they had a rig at the recent PC fair with 2X6600GTs n the graphics were just awesome. Framerates were smooth as butter even on really high settings. I was glued to the rig for like 10 minutes playing NFSU2 on it. |
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QUOTE(ianho @ Jun 13 2005, 04:39 AM) But the 6600GT SLI is so much cheaper than 1 6800 Ultra. N most reviews say that 2X6600GTs r as good n even better in some aspects than the 6800 Ultra. Actually they had a rig at the recent PC fair with 2X6600GTs n the graphics were just awesome. Framerates were smooth as butter even on really high settings. I was glued to the rig for like 10 minutes playing NFSU2 on it. 6800ultra works out of the box while 6600gt x 2 is not. What is the point spending rm1600 on a graphics card just to do some benchies and play few games. Might as well go for a single 6800gt that is compatible with all the benchies and games. Furthermore heat and space are always an issue. If you want to go SLI, I strongly suggest 6800gt x 2 or 6800 ultra x 2. 6600gt x 2 is a big no for me. But then, it's just me... |
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guys... i use ABIT AN8.. not fatility... anyone here know different between it ?? i only can find fatility have ram otes n base on nforce 4 ultra.. why price so bit different ??
here is my screen shoot... just normal push coz dont have gud pair of ram.... .. KVR only... not hynix btw..... i`m happy use this board.... board`s layout look interesting... get it RM420 at LYP.... no need DFI coz i`m not extreme ocers This post has been edited by wadieq: Jun 14 2005, 11:20 AM Attached thumbnail(s) 
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QUOTE(syazone @ May 4 2005, 10:36 PM) i want to build new AMD 64bit system..... is it worth for money if i willing to sacrifice my money (around RM750) for this moteherboard? anyone use it? how about overclockability? the reason of gettin something is our own preferences...not to condemn anybody but due to many comparisons which is how to say.."a bit bias" lets us stick to the topic back....since i dont want SLi.... this fella (syazone) really likes the Abit Fatality Series much more than DFI...since he can read (of course if not he wouldn't post in this forum) is enuff by just stating what does he wants and not what we wants....he wants to know what does he can do if he buys this Fatality board...why must we ask him to get a DFI LP since he said aledi he dont want SLI...he is ready to forked out money to get the Fatality let it be...no point in forcing him to get the DFI if he doesnt want... Well (DFI promoters)...we know for sure that this fella will lose his money big time...well he dont want to listen then there is no point we tell him no more...showing what DFI can do also doesn't help in making up his mine for a DFI LP...Yes we (me myself) knows what DFI can do...let us give this guy a break buy letting all the AN8 Fatality guy's tell him what the Fatality can do...If he's gonna rugi but what to do... syazone...listen to ur heart n follow ur budget...but i just want to tell u one thing about desire... firstly what do u want to do with ur board...if u want cool features plus good looks i then know why did u choose the Abit Fatal...but then again the DFI boys keep on saying DFI "bla,bla,bla,bla"...so do you know why we keep on saying that...i know and u know...but ur heart is with Fatality...so go for it n never turn back... One thing i wanna say is... if u wan to stay stock standard...get a MSI Neo2 or Abit AV8.. if u want to play hard....then go for hardcore stuffs....which is hardcore stuffs u may ask...then browse around n u'll know.... if desire that u want...ask around ppl...then accept what they say...but dun accept what they ask u to do...get a Fatality...and make us look wrong... p/s:there is no such thing like going fast cheap...there is only fast n expensive... like those fuel saving term..."jimat minyak kuasa bertambah"...well f*** them...there is no such thing in this world....same goes to computers and everything else..."good stuff not cheap, cheap stuff not good..." anyway gud luck n happy shopping.... |
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Jun 14 2005, 12:11 PM
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QUOTE(PCcrazy @ Jun 13 2005, 05:25 AM) 6800ultra works out of the box while 6600gt x 2 is not. What is the point spending rm1600 on a graphics card just to do some benchies and play few games. Might as well go for a single 6800gt that is compatible with all the benchies and games. Furthermore heat and space are always an issue. If you want to go SLI, I strongly suggest 6800gt x 2 or 6800 ultra x 2. 6600gt x 2 is a big no for me. But then, it's just me... well...actually the SLI term are ment for two type of categories...1.The no/less budget clans...."Buy one now,get another one later".... 2.The alot of budget clans...With the power of 2xUltra's I'll become the number 1 in LYN Benchmark bla bla bla..... |
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Jun 14 2005, 12:30 PM
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QUOTE(wadieq @ Jun 14 2005, 11:13 AM) guys... i use ABIT AN8.. not fatility... anyone here know different between it ?? i only can find fatility have ram otes n base on nforce 4 ultra.. why price so bit different ?? nice result here is my screen shoot... just normal push coz dont have gud pair of ram.... .. KVR only... not hynix btw..... i`m happy use this board.... board`s layout look interesting... get it RM420 at LYP.... no need DFI coz i`m not extreme ocers me waiting for AN8 ultra ... not yet available..  |
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Jun 14 2005, 12:40 PM
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AN8 ultra
Change Log from previous AN8 V1.0 - 7.1 AudioMax card - nForce4 Ultra chipset - new enhance maximum Vdimm up to 3.55v - silent otes heatpipe... that will be my next board for sure  Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Jun 14 2005, 01:09 PM
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QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Jun 14 2005, 12:11 PM) well...actually the SLI term are ment for two type of categories... You've got a point there. I totally missed out that one. 1.The no/less budget clans...."Buy one now,get another one later".... 2.The alot of budget clans...With the power of 2xUltra's I'll become the number 1 in LYN Benchmark bla bla bla..... QUOTE(tictac @ Jun 14 2005, 12:40 PM) AN8 ultra Honestly, this board has been continuing to impress me. I hope it's not as fussy as those DFI's. Vdimm is actually running on what rails tictac? can be adjusted jumper wise like those DFI's?Change Log from previous AN8 V1.0 - 7.1 AudioMax card - nForce4 Ultra chipset - new enhance maximum Vdimm up to 3.55v - silent otes heatpipe... that will be my next board for sure |
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Jun 14 2005, 01:48 PM
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QUOTE(tictac @ Jun 14 2005, 12:40 PM) AN8 ultra hehehe...is Abit trying to get their title back from DFI???or the are ashame of being level with MSI???? Change Log from previous AN8 V1.0 - 7.1 AudioMax card - nForce4 Ultra chipset - new enhance maximum Vdimm up to 3.55v - silent otes heatpipe... that will be my next board for sure |
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Jun 14 2005, 07:47 PM
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QUOTE(tictac @ Jun 14 2005, 12:40 PM) AN8 ultra demm... nice mobo... vdimm also up to 3.55v.. Change Log from previous AN8 V1.0 - 7.1 AudioMax card - nForce4 Ultra chipset - new enhance maximum Vdimm up to 3.55v - silent otes heatpipe... that will be my next board for sure wanna get SLi.. but dont know between Abit Fatility Sli or DFI nf4 sli... ASUS/MSI/Gigabyte is not in my list This post has been edited by wadieq: Jun 14 2005, 07:52 PM |
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Jun 15 2005, 02:41 PM
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QUOTE(wadieq @ Jun 14 2005, 07:47 PM) demm... nice mobo... vdimm also up to 3.55v.. as for now: wanna get SLi.. but dont know between Abit Fatility Sli or DFI nf4 sli... ASUS/MSI/Gigabyte is not in my list Abit - Unproven DFI - Alot of bugs regarding bios n ram sets MSI - Got Potential in oveclocking, but maybe components are still weak Gigabyte - Powerfull yet no ppl buy...n also unproven ASUS - Hahahaha...came out wif a mobo that talk only but which discrase its own reputation.. |
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Jun 15 2005, 11:40 PM
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so how much really is this mobo? and normal an8?
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Jun 16 2005, 01:24 AM
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QUOTE(tictac @ Jun 14 2005, 12:40 PM) AN8 ultra Abit AN8 ultraChange Log from previous AN8 V1.0 - 7.1 AudioMax card - nForce4 Ultra chipset - new enhance maximum Vdimm up to 3.55v - silent otes heatpipe... that will be my next board for sure this my next board too... |
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Jun 16 2005, 09:23 PM
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QUOTE(rlhc17 @ Jun 16 2005, 01:24 AM) Abit AN8 ultra COOL..this my next board too... hmm no fatal1ty for it... Fatal1ty + no SLI + Red LED + 3.55V DIMM... should be damn cool =X i want red LED! fatal1ty in my casing now damn cool... all red led light + my UV light with cable... |
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Jun 16 2005, 09:28 PM
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QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Jun 14 2005, 12:09 PM) the reason of gettin something is our own preferences...not to condemn anybody but due to many comparisons which is how to say.."a bit bias" lets us stick to the topic back.... Your DFI price also nice just like ASUSthis fella (syazone) really likes the Abit Fatality Series much more than DFI...since he can read (of course if not he wouldn't post in this forum) is enuff by just stating what does he wants and not what we wants....he wants to know what does he can do if he buys this Fatality board...why must we ask him to get a DFI LP since he said aledi he dont want SLI...he is ready to forked out money to get the Fatality let it be...no point in forcing him to get the DFI if he doesnt want... Well (DFI promoters)...we know for sure that this fella will lose his money big time...well he dont want to listen then there is no point we tell him no more...showing what DFI can do also doesn't help in making up his mine for a DFI LP...Yes we (me myself) knows what DFI can do...let us give this guy a break buy letting all the AN8 Fatality guy's tell him what the Fatality can do...If he's gonna rugi but what to do... syazone...listen to ur heart n follow ur budget...but i just want to tell u one thing about desire... firstly what do u want to do with ur board...if u want cool features plus good looks i then know why did u choose the Abit Fatal...but then again the DFI boys keep on saying DFI "bla,bla,bla,bla"...so do you know why we keep on saying that...i know and u know...but ur heart is with Fatality...so go for it n never turn back... One thing i wanna say is... if u wan to stay stock standard...get a MSI Neo2 or Abit AV8.. if u want to play hard....then go for hardcore stuffs....which is hardcore stuffs u may ask...then browse around n u'll know.... if desire that u want...ask around ppl...then accept what they say...but dun accept what they ask u to do...get a Fatality...and make us look wrong... p/s:there is no such thing like going fast cheap...there is only fast n expensive... like those fuel saving term..."jimat minyak kuasa bertambah"...well f*** them...there is no such thing in this world....same goes to computers and everything else..."good stuff not cheap, cheap stuff not good..." anyway gud luck n happy shopping.... |
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Jun 17 2005, 11:51 AM
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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Jun 16 2005, 09:28 PM) Your DFI price also nice just like ASUS toh cheh...toh cheh... but wait...which Asus???  |
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Jun 17 2005, 06:15 PM
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QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Jun 17 2005, 11:51 AM) toh cheh...toh cheh... nm lah... but wait...which Asus??? as long as i happy u happy... |
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Jun 27 2005, 12:01 PM
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wats the diff. between HTT n' ram frequency?
i am using fatality too only can get 255mhz for the fsb , ram is kvr hynix bt-d43 single sided 512x2 ..can i push any further? |
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Jun 28 2005, 04:25 PM
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Dear Abit user,
Please post your suggestion / request on ABIT Crossfire board here... http://forum.abit-usa.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=87043 Thank you, tictac |
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Jun 28 2005, 06:10 PM
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Another Fata1ty users here................well so far i'm quite satisfy with the performance.........jsut a bit dissaointed with the vdimm limt at 2.8v (damn too low)
but if u goin for casing modification, this mobo will be a perfect choice.......UV reflective coat those arent alway people's favourite hehe............ i will post my rig's picture when the modification is complete btw i didnt get DFI because it is super duper overprice in market over here |
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Jun 30 2005, 02:58 PM
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compare to Fatalty n AN8 ultra i seen not much different if price ok this also will be my next mobo |
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Jun 30 2005, 04:06 PM
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how much is the abit fatality?
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Jul 2 2005, 01:56 AM
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QUOTE(irenic @ Jun 30 2005, 04:06 PM) how much is the abit fatality? around 6xxAN8 Ultra is cool This post has been edited by cyberloner: Jul 2 2005, 01:57 AM |
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Jul 3 2005, 07:55 PM
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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Jul 2 2005, 01:56 AM) around 6xx An8 ultra will be my next board.. vdimm up to 3.55v AN8 Ultra is cool how much now arr ?? |
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Jul 3 2005, 11:27 PM
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QUOTE(wadieq @ Jul 3 2005, 07:55 PM) An8 ultra will be my next board.. vdimm up to 3.55v nobody know that coz cant even find in m'sia yet how much now arr ?? |
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Jul 5 2005, 02:53 AM
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QUOTE(tachlio @ Jul 3 2005, 11:27 PM) nobody know that coz cant even find in m'sia yet i am using now =)price for user should be RM5xx This post has been edited by cyberloner: Jul 5 2005, 02:59 AM Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Jul 5 2005, 02:55 AM
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My PC with AN8 Ultra
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Jul 5 2005, 09:09 AM
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fatality will be around sli-dr's price.. an8 ultra is quite cheap.. if i convert the prices from it's about 560ringgit.. an8 sli fatality needs about 1000 ringgit already
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Jul 6 2005, 02:28 AM
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QUOTE(babyelf @ Jul 5 2005, 09:09 AM) fatality will be around sli-dr's price.. an8 ultra is quite cheap.. if i convert the prices from it's about 560ringgit.. an8 sli fatality needs about 1000 ringgit already 1000 u sure or not?It is not DFI ler... DFI = paying for useless tools inside the mobo box that never use at all.... super expensive too Forget brand... wanna buy 2 mobo one got a lot of ka chang... 1000 another one... all tools can be use .... more phase power 6XX This post has been edited by cyberloner: Jul 6 2005, 02:31 AM |
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Jul 7 2005, 11:27 AM
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fatality an8 sli nf4 ultra around rm800
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Jul 8 2005, 01:36 AM
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i'm using fatality an8 now. feels great even with KVR ram. able to reach 250mhz that i'm using now...only thing is the vdimm
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Jul 8 2005, 03:44 AM
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why? whats the problem with the vdimm?
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Jul 8 2005, 04:44 AM
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2.8v is the max that fatality have.
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Jul 8 2005, 05:12 AM
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get the new an8 ultra 3.55vdimm
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Jul 8 2005, 11:20 PM
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AN8 ultra is selling in thundermatch already n the price is RM 460 wanna ask anybody there use AN8 ultra long? got any problem like bios bla bla bla~~~~~~~ |
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Jul 9 2005, 08:31 PM
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I saw some thing diffrent with Fatality AN8 and AN8 ultra..
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Jul 9 2005, 10:53 PM
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QUOTE(michaelpng @ Jul 9 2005, 08:31 PM) I saw some thing diffrent with Fatality AN8 and AN8 ultra.. vdimm for Fatality AN8 - 2.8vvdimm for AN8 ultra - 3.55v |
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Jul 9 2005, 11:19 PM
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max Vdimm for AN8 Ultra = 3.55 Vdimm..
surely it gets current from the +5V rail right ? i reckon some parts of the mobo must be hot.. just like DFI NF4 LP series.. |
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Jul 10 2005, 01:09 AM
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i think in terms of stability is abit . ..hehhe(maybe i was wrong)
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Jul 10 2005, 02:52 AM
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QUOTE(tachlio @ Jul 8 2005, 11:20 PM) AN8 ultra is selling in thundermatch already n the price is RM 460wanna ask anybody there use AN8 ultra long? got any problem like bios bla bla bla~~~~~~~ Newegg USA selling @ USD133 ~ RM500 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16813127212 lucky you This post has been edited by tictac: Jul 10 2005, 02:52 AM |
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Jul 10 2005, 04:03 AM
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QUOTE(tictac @ Jul 10 2005, 02:52 AM) wow RM460 so cheap... it is 5xx not 4xx Newegg USA selling @ USD133 ~ RM500 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16813127212 lucky you if 4xx maybe they dun wanna make money from it and screw abit market... |
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Jul 10 2005, 12:37 PM
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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Jul 10 2005, 04:03 AM) it is 5xx not 4xx i'm abit fan too.. wanna get AN8 ultra but now i'm using AN8 + KVR hynix @ 2.8v ... so izzit better i get AN8 ultra or just stay with AN8 ?? if 4xx maybe they dun wanna make money from it and screw abit market... only vdimm was increse... and i dont use RAM that need high voltage... so ?? what u think ?? |
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Jul 10 2005, 12:45 PM
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i dont think u need to change ur mobo just to get a better spec than u dont think u gonna use it
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Jul 10 2005, 12:51 PM
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QUOTE(wadieq @ Jul 10 2005, 12:37 PM) i'm abit fan too.. wanna get AN8 ultra but now i'm using AN8 + KVR hynix @ 2.8v ... so izzit better i get AN8 ultra or just stay with AN8 ?? i dont see any point for you to upgrade if you running on d43 memory...only vdimm was increse... and i dont use RAM that need high voltage... so ?? what u think ?? the board onli offer higher vdimm + 8channel audio... unless you got voltage hunger memory like a ocz vx / mushkin redline / twinmos speed premium utt |
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Jul 10 2005, 02:10 PM
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Jul 10 2005, 02:01 PM) mods......save us from the rabid ABIT fanboy Cyberloner..... I fail to see what is wrong. He is not flaming anyone right? Did he post thing such as "ABIT rawwks"? Btw, If you hate him personally, pls have it solved via PM. |
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Jul 12 2005, 01:10 AM
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i'm ABIT fans too
i dun OC so much.. but i guess Fatal1ty is the right choice for my gaming... plan 2 get the mobo soon n a good vga card.. the best is Ati Crossfire.... still waiting.. DFI, Uv stuff....no point.. i prefer performance... esp ABit Running four phase power...Rubycom capacitor... its rock man ! salute Fatal1ty ! |
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Jul 13 2005, 11:38 AM
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no offence to abit users or fans.. but DFI also using high quality capacitor and pcb...
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Jul 13 2005, 01:42 PM
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i jus flash a lastest bios (v1.5) for my fatality an8
i try to set it at 290x8 wif divider 333mhz for the ram HT@4 using d43 3-3-3-7 vcore 1.600... vdimm2.80 vtt1.40. whinchester 1800+ problem is when i shut it down completely(off the power socket), then i on the pc in the next dy i found the bios gone crazy ...got a warning msg that the frequencies setting was not correct ...why????HELP!!! when the fsb touch 280 it will be like this...but 279 will works fine. |
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Jul 13 2005, 02:02 PM
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remember that HTT value must not exceed 1000 value. if u set 280fsbx4ht = 1120. try set to value 3. see how it go..
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Jul 13 2005, 02:09 PM
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Oo..thanks o..i try and see 1st..
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Jul 13 2005, 05:35 PM
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QUOTE(wadieq @ Jul 9 2005, 10:53 PM) vdimm for Fatality AN8 - 2.8v ya that the 1.. vdimm for AN8 ultra - 3.55v but what I saw is different U try to compare Fatality AN8 and AN8 Ultra near the IEEE1394 chip there U will saw the AN8 Ultra there it stick the Serial number stiker to block a little cable and used for what  not sure.... |
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Jul 14 2005, 02:11 AM
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i just like to hear the buzz sound from the otes fans..hehe jus like the car air-con ...on n off
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Jul 15 2005, 08:27 PM
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QUOTE(michaelpng @ Jul 13 2005, 05:35 PM) ya that the 1.. one more.. but what I saw is different U try to compare Fatality AN8 and AN8 Ultra near the IEEE1394 chip there U will saw the AN8 Ultra there it stick the Serial number stiker to block a little cable and used for what not sure....fatality an8 - otes an8 - silent otes |
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Jul 15 2005, 08:31 PM
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QUOTE(gamers maniac @ Jul 13 2005, 02:02 PM) remember that HTT value must not exceed 1000 value. if u set 280fsbx4ht = 1120. try set to value 3. see how it go.. HTT value can reach to 1120 ?? mine i think only 1020 (255 x 4) |
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Jul 15 2005, 09:10 PM
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at penang swisspac i just ask the AN8 ultra price is RM 515 hw u all think?
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Jul 16 2005, 03:24 AM
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Bios : 16
Release information: 1. Change default setting of Cool n' Quiet to "Enable" 2. Change Full screen logo. 3. Cool n' Quiet now works as intended. 4. Fixed the issue that certain VGA card does not work with DVI output. 5. Fixed the issue that some 3D application may not run stable in SLi mode. 6. Change some item in DRAM voltage section. 7. Add AMD MCT2 version 1.3 support. 8. BIOS compiled date: 07/12/2005 Downloadlink: ftp://ftp.abit.com.tw/pub/download/bios/an8/an816.exe |
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Jul 16 2005, 09:42 PM
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QUOTE(wadieq @ Jul 15 2005, 08:31 PM) HTT value can reach to 1120 ?? mine i think only 1020 (255 x 4) wow...ur ram can boost till 255? my d43 cannot lor , hv to use divider after 250 northen region pc hardware always expensive 1...or else u know the boss, maybe can get cheaper...haha ask a Question...since fatality an8 only did 2.80vdimm...is there any low voltage ram that available in the market? able to get high oc? ddr booster is a must for using high performance ram??? |
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Jul 16 2005, 10:43 PM
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QUOTE(shift2 @ Jul 16 2005, 09:50 PM) ask a Question...since fatality an8 only did 2.80vdimm...is there any low voltage ram that available in the market? able to get high oc? My Ram is KVR with Kingston chip .. actually itz from hynix ddr booster is a must for using high performance ram??? http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=126163 can boot till 260FSB and never tweak more... dont know how can it go but i think it can push more on 2.8v if u want OC ram on 2.8v... my suggestion is go for TCCD chip QUOTE(tictac @ Jul 16 2005, 03:24 AM) Bios : 16 hav update but something happened to my mobo.. when i attach all my hdd.. all device cannot detect.... quite scare and flash back to bios 15Release information: 1. Change default setting of Cool n' Quiet to "Enable" 2. Change Full screen logo. 3. Cool n' Quiet now works as intended. 4. Fixed the issue that certain VGA card does not work with DVI output. 5. Fixed the issue that some 3D application may not run stable in SLi mode. 6. Change some item in DRAM voltage section. 7. Add AMD MCT2 version 1.3 support. 8. BIOS compiled date: 07/12/2005 Downloadlink: ftp://ftp.abit.com.tw/pub/download/bios/an8/an816.exe |
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Jul 18 2005, 01:44 AM
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what brand that is using TCCD chip? hehe...newbie question...paiseh paiseh
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Jul 21 2005, 02:57 PM
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Need help here guys. setting up a Socket 754 rig using the NF8 mobo. When fitted with a pair KVR 256 x 2 (PSC chipset), the rig doesn't wanna boot up properly even in auto or manual setting of timings. When fitted with a pair of twinmos value RAM's 256 x 2, boots up beautifully. What's the matter with it? In the process of updating the BIOS to version 17
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Jul 26 2005, 04:34 PM
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recently my fatality an8 a strange problem...after i shut down with the stanby power on. a long beep sound will heard after i on the pc again. beep sound like" beep beeeeeeeepp" n follow by the normal beep sound.why????
i just set fsb @ 270 wif divider 5:4. is this course by the over vcore o vdimm??? |
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Jul 26 2005, 05:09 PM
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QUOTE(antonio_zth @ May 5 2005, 09:28 AM) TCCD expensive meh???hihihihih.... For some tccd, ya, not cheap.DFI lar bro...end of story...dun go abit....abit NF-7S finish aledi...hahahaha... coz it promise go 600Mhz at 2.7~2.95V. tat is older version of TCCD. latest, go over 3V will gain more... and price i can said is still affortable |
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Aug 5 2005, 11:59 AM
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QUOTE(shift2 @ Jul 26 2005, 04:34 PM) recently my fatality an8 a strange problem...after i shut down with the stanby power on. a long beep sound will heard after i on the pc again. beep sound like" beep beeeeeeeepp" n follow by the normal beep sound.why???? Remove battery a while,i just set fsb @ 270 wif divider 5:4. is this course by the over vcore o vdimm??? plug in back, start the mobo and go to abit uguru in bios and check all your system temp... fan slow will beep, cpu heat will beat... wrong ram timing will beep... u need to post in abit forum to get more support.... |
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Aug 5 2005, 02:44 PM
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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Aug 5 2005, 11:59 AM) Remove battery a while, cyberloner,plug in back, start the mobo and go to abit uguru in bios and check all your system temp... fan slow will beep, cpu heat will beat... wrong ram timing will beep... u need to post in abit forum to get more support.... what is ur problem with me....did i borrow u any money and not return the money back to you when i purchased either DFI LP or Fatal1ty???? Lets talk here and not embarassed ourself in an official like (u know which one right).... |
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Aug 5 2005, 11:28 PM
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QUOTE(cyberloner @ May 5 2005, 01:54 PM) Get Fatal1ty.... 4 phase power + otes ram.... onboard otes... moffet cooler... stable clock man......... DFI has 4 phase power too. OTES is not necessary actually. Even without OTES DFI is able to clock very high. MOSFET can work at very high temperature, as high as 120-150C. 70-80C is just half of its treshold only. About yr 'stable clock', pls give supportive facts what u mean by stable clock. Do you measure the clock using an oscilloscope? If yes, why not u post the waveform of the clock here?better layout...cooper heatsink.......sound card off board... and have optical out..... what DFI have? think about it...... If you talk about layout, both Abit and DFI are good. Check here : ABIT DFI If you wanna know results of O/C using stock board (no further mods): here it goes Also, if you are showing off with 385MHz of HTT, I don't want to disappoint u, but even MSI can reach 400MHz using a-sync timing. If u want real o/c do it synchronously with RAM. It's useless to get the CPU runs fast with a slow memory hogging its performance. If tat's the case, i rather run at a lower HTT to have better o/c performance. O/c is suppose to makes PC performs better, not just high numbers but poorer performance. You might claimed me as a DFI fan, but I'm not. I just tell the facts and compare them. I'm not saying Abit is bad, but DFI is js doing better. Up till now I didnt even said Abit sux while I hv both of them died, and my DFI still survived until extreme stress test. |
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Aug 5 2005, 11:31 PM
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This is a quote from Anandtech :
QUOTE When we benchmarked nF4-SLI boards several months ago, it was very early in the release cycle for nForce4 motherboards. We were surprised to see the large spread of overclocking results, but there was the explanation that the boards were new to market and we were testing immature technology. We are now several months down the road and the nForce4 Ultra chipset is everywhere in the market. Now, we have to wonder why there is such a huge spread in overclocking results with the nForce4 Ultra boards in this roundup. Names like Abit, which should be at the top of the OC game, barely reached 250 in our overclock tests. The enthusiast wannabes also generally performed extremely poorly. It is almost like some board makers understand how to overclock nForce4 motherboards and others are still struggling. Two boards clearly stand out in overclocking in this roundup:the Epox 9NPA+ and the DFI LANParty UT nF4 Ultra-D. These two turned in bus overclocks more than 50% higher than the third placed motherboard, and they were also the top two in stock ratio overclocking. Source Oh well, if DFI takes the place of Abit now, I would say Abit is good and DFI isnt tat good too. Neither DFI nor Abit pay me to promote their products, I'm js telling what i think is best with support. This post has been edited by charge-n-go: Aug 5 2005, 11:37 PM |
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Aug 6 2005, 12:47 AM
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i was a dfi lanparty nforce 4 sli d user and sold it because thinking of upgrading. then after a few weeks using my old pentium 4 rig, i bought abit fatal1ty an8 sli coz of hand itchy
what i can say in terms of overclocking is DFI is better because of its wide range of setting, and when i oc with abit, somehow i feel sthing is missing in the bios.. and when running benchies, the score is less than what i got with the same setting with DFI. but in general use, as a student who use the same rig for assignments, i can say abit is better since i have never ever experience cold boot .. DFI nforce 4 is well known for this problem but not everyone experience it.. too bad i was unlucky with my board. and this DFI is board is very very choosy with ram.. cheapo ram wont run good with this board.. unlike abit which is more flexible towards ram compatibility. i'm not suprise all reviews said that DFI is the best nforce 4 board since i myself also think that is true. but what i wanna say here the reviewers tested the board just for a few days or maybe some 2-3 weeks only and they wont have chance to experience any instability problem. i used the board since march and the cold boot problem only appeared in july.. and i love to quote what i found in kelvin_hata signature : QUOTE DFI=Headaches for veterans, curses for noobies, destruction for a teenager's face with pimples and overclocker's favourite board.---------->pizzaboy DFI got a lot of problems, but still no other board can compete with it in oc.. owh n 1 more thing, i guess high htt shows what the board is capable off.. no matter at what speed ur ram is running.. just my 2 cents This post has been edited by irenic: Aug 6 2005, 12:53 AM |
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Aug 6 2005, 02:22 PM
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for the Abit it is physically not possible to have options in bios to set drive strengths.
drive strengths goes by resistance.. 30ohms to 75ohms 1 and 2 3 and 4 5 and 6 7 and 8 those pairs share the same resistance.. 1 3 5 7 being weak and 2 4 6 8 is strong.. TCCD clocking should be better on DFI.. from personal experience of playing with both boards.. the DFI is still my choice.. Abit lacks many things.. altho they use japanese capacitors now like DFI.. there's still one big step away from DFI.. which is BIOS updates |
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Aug 6 2005, 11:09 PM
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time will tell...
no more argue no more mobo fighting no more promotion lowyat mod keep del post... that is wrong... mod.... |
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Aug 7 2005, 12:49 AM
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QUOTE(irenic @ Aug 6 2005, 01:47 AM) owh n 1 more thing, i guess high htt shows what the board is capable off.. no matter at what speed ur ram is running.. just my 2 cents Yo irenic, i agree with you about the cold boot issue, it happens to DFI nf2 as well. It is fixed after the latest official BIOS update. For me there's no big deal becoz i nv turn off my PC. Uptime wise, DFI realy did better than Abit in my experience. I've no idea on the RAM incompatibility too, thanx for the info About the HTT u mentioned, actually high HTT doesnt mean as much as running synchronous with RAM. It's bcoz HTT multiplier is always set to a certain value to get around 1000MHz, so going high isnt a big issue, js like setting to a high FSB but lower down a CPU multiplier doesnt mean shows the CPU real o/c potential. In my opinion, if the board can run sync with RAM at high speed, it needs a good stability to make sure the data transferred from RAM to CPU through the bus on mobo. Just my 2 cents BTW, would u like to share the problems of DFI? I really wanted to know, thanx ! This post has been edited by charge-n-go: Aug 7 2005, 12:51 AM |
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Aug 7 2005, 01:08 AM
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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Aug 6 2005, 11:09 PM) time will tell... If only you are not obsessed perhaps you can spot the grass might be greener on the other side also.no more argue no more mobo fighting no more promotion lowyat mod keep del post... that is wrong... mod.... |
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Aug 7 2005, 02:44 AM
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QUOTE(charge-n-go @ Aug 7 2005, 12:49 AM) Yo irenic, i agree with you about the cold boot issue, it happens to DFI nf2 as well. It is fixed after the latest official BIOS update. For me there's no big deal becoz i nv turn off my PC. Uptime wise, DFI realy did better than Abit in my experience. I've no idea on the RAM incompatibility too, thanx for the info the problem with my DFI was only the cold boot. beside that, all were perfect. i did a review and found out that my problem wasnt the normal cold boot problem. in my case, all the 4 led's were blinking and i found in one website ( either xs or overclockers.com .. not remember) they called it 4 leds of death.. meaning the board is dying hehe.. About the HTT u mentioned, actually high HTT doesnt mean as much as running synchronous with RAM. It's bcoz HTT multiplier is always set to a certain value to get around 1000MHz, so going high isnt a big issue, js like setting to a high FSB but lower down a CPU multiplier doesnt mean shows the CPU real o/c potential. In my opinion, if the board can run sync with RAM at high speed, it needs a good stability to make sure the data transferred from RAM to CPU through the bus on mobo. Just my 2 cents BTW, would u like to share the problems of DFI? I really wanted to know, thanx ! its weird becoz most of them who have the same problem are using high voltage ram.. but i was using ocz rev2 which is tccd chipset and i nvr go beyond 2.8 (2.9 in some cases).. even when i wasnt oc my system, everytime i switched off it took me at least half an hour to switch it on again.. i also very seldom switched on the pc since i stay in hostel and the electricity is free but one morning i wanted to restart the pc but instead of pressed the restart button, i pressed the shut down button.. then i never ever able to switch on my system again hehe.. so i changed to a new board at alphamatic system and straight away selling it. that time i sold it becoz i was thinking to wait for DFI crossfire and use my p4 rig for a while.. but one thing is i still prefer DFI for oc purpose. Since using this abit i never do serious oc although my 3dmark got higher score than what i got with my DFI hehe.. about the ram compatibility, i heard that DFI wont run well with value ram or d43 ram... my current abit works perfect with my ocz rev2 tccd and patriot d43 chipset.. This post has been edited by irenic: Aug 7 2005, 02:45 AM |
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Aug 7 2005, 03:39 AM
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It is true that DFI has problem to pair with value ram but this is fixed after the latest official bios released.
As for the D43 ram, I myself once paired the D43 with my DFI NF4 Ultra-D. The only problem is the divider. It wont work with any divider. But it still overclocked very well to 260FSB with a ratio of 1:1. hehehe...I myself had the 4 LED issue before. I managed to make it running by using Safe Boot jumper after clearing the cmos. I was tweaking the RAM by playing with the timings and that led me to the 4 LED issue. I have no more problem with this mobo since i have found a stable speed and the best timings. |
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Aug 7 2005, 11:04 AM
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i think the thread needs to be renamed "Abit VS DFI" heh
i am not siding anyone here.. but like i say above Abit and DFI.. they are both great boards.. DFI being the one having the upper hand in overclocking than the Abit.. Ram compatibility wise they fixed it with having DRAM response time in bioses after 618 if i'm not mistaken DFI boards still have the best TCCD clocking capabilities than the Abit.. the Abit does not have the physical capabilities to play with drive strengths.. I thought they've catched up since the POS AV8 i've been using for a while but don't think they quite made it there yet.. and one thing i'm really pissed off when i was using my AV8 and AN8 SLI fatality is the bios release that does not fix anything.. but instead it disables something |
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Aug 7 2005, 11:32 AM
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hehe babyelf, i js cant tolerate somebody who always say one brand is the best and another sux to max. It's very misleading. Thanx for sharing your valueable experience here
Well, RAM and certain compatibility issue can be solved by BIOS update, this works to my nf2 DFI UI. Up to now, i really cant find a single error and the board works perfectly well. I believe nForce4 based DFI can sooner or later fixed the problem. QUOTE its weird becoz most of them who have the same problem are using high voltage ram Usual DDR RAM chip cannot exceed 2.85V according to specs, and Winbond chips should be around 3.3-3.5V. More than that of course will give some problems. |
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Aug 7 2005, 09:50 PM
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QUOTE(babyelf @ Aug 7 2005, 11:04 AM) i think the thread needs to be renamed "Abit VS DFI" heh i am not siding anyone here.. but like i say above Abit and DFI.. they are both great boards.. DFI being the one having the upper hand in overclocking than the Abit.. Ram compatibility wise they fixed it with having DRAM response time in bioses after 618 if i'm not mistaken DFI boards still have the best TCCD clocking capabilities than the Abit.. the Abit does not have the physical capabilities to play with drive strengths.. I thought they've catched up since the POS AV8 i've been using for a while but don't think they quite made it there yet.. and one thing i'm really pissed off when i was using my AV8 and AN8 SLI fatality is the bios release that does not fix anything.. but instead it disables something QUOTE(charge-n-go @ Aug 7 2005, 11:32 AM) hehe babyelf, i js cant tolerate somebody who always say one brand is the best and another sux to max. It's very misleading. Thanx for sharing your valueable experience here i'm not sure bout the DFI uncompatibility with value ram since the only ram i had paired with my DFI was tccd chipset ..Corsair XL (tccd), Gskill LF (tccd), and OCZ rev2 (also tccd) hehe.. i just said what i read in other forum.. Well, RAM and certain compatibility issue can be solved by BIOS update, this works to my nf2 DFI UI. Up to now, i really cant find a single error and the board works perfectly well. I believe nForce4 based DFI can sooner or later fixed the problem. Usual DDR RAM chip cannot exceed 2.85V according to specs, and Winbond chips should be around 3.3-3.5V. More than that of course will give some problems. DFI is indeed a better board in oc.. it cant be compared with abit or other board. maybe the current bios is good, which fixed all the problems that never be solved during my time with DFI .. or maybe i just unlucky to get a suck board.. i never ever manage to solve my 4 leds problem even using the tips given by other pro in overseas forum.. i really hope DFI will fixed every problem since i am targeting their crossfire board for my next rig heheThis post has been edited by irenic: Aug 7 2005, 09:54 PM |
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Aug 8 2005, 01:02 AM
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after spending some hours playing with this an8 bios, i notice it has problem when running more than 227 htt @ 1T ram.. the system wont boot into windows unless i change the command rate to 2T..
sigh both tccd & d43 have same problem.. anyone manage to solve it? edited:: i tested using bios 13, 15 & 16. & i cant find any difference between bios 15 & 16.. This post has been edited by irenic: Aug 8 2005, 01:03 AM |
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Aug 8 2005, 12:31 PM
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QUOTE(irenic @ Aug 8 2005, 01:02 AM) after spending some hours playing with this an8 bios, i notice it has problem when running more than 227 htt @ 1T ram.. the system wont boot into windows unless i change the command rate to 2T.. normally users will stick at 13 coz its the most stable and less hassle than 15 and 16...but i my benchie below i'm using 16....juz to see the performance...sigh both tccd & d43 have same problem.. anyone manage to solve it? edited:: i tested using bios 13, 15 & 16. & i cant find any difference between bios 15 & 16.. btw DFI users...here is one ex DFI/now Abit Kipas....(hahahhaha) Fatality AN8 SLI -Venice 0522 1.675v -TCCD 4400 2.8v  -Chipset 1.6v -VTT 1.35v -PCIE Clock 101mhz -HTT x3 -Ram Divider 166 -270 HTT boot--->clockgen push up to 340HTT -managed 7215 Sandra 2K5 v2 (last nite)  Super PI  This post has been edited by antonio_zth: Aug 8 2005, 03:02 PM |
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Aug 8 2005, 03:19 PM
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QUOTE(irenic @ Aug 8 2005, 01:02 AM) after spending some hours playing with this an8 bios, i notice it has problem when running more than 227 htt @ 1T ram.. the system wont boot into windows unless i change the command rate to 2T.. nope.. it's a known issue.. not fixes for it yet.. 1T will run up to a point only.. sigh both tccd & d43 have same problem.. anyone manage to solve it? edited:: i tested using bios 13, 15 & 16. & i cant find any difference between bios 15 & 16.. it's not the ram.. it's the processor.. only affects venice and sandiego so far AFAIK.. |
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Aug 8 2005, 03:52 PM
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QUOTE(babyelf @ Aug 8 2005, 03:19 PM) nope.. it's a known issue.. not fixes for it yet.. 1T will run up to a point only.. Mine,it's not the ram.. it's the processor.. only affects venice and sandiego so far AFAIK.. 166 = 270 HTT = Switched On + Boot = Like a charm... Juz make sure voltage is above a lil bit to make sure enuff to run everything... TCCD 4400 Venice 22 bios 16 |
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Aug 8 2005, 04:47 PM
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hmm one more thing.. why abit temperature so high aa? on water uguru reported my sandy's temp at 44 idle.. but my hardcano 13 shows the temp is 28.. last time with my DFI my sandy idle at 33C only..
is there any bios or version of uguru that fix this temperature problem? |
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Aug 8 2005, 05:07 PM
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QUOTE(irenic @ Aug 8 2005, 04:47 PM) hmm one more thing.. why abit temperature so high aa? on water uguru reported my sandy's temp at 44 idle.. but my hardcano 13 shows the temp is 28.. last time with my DFI my sandy idle at 33C only.. ya lor...when i bench my temp go up until 80c on the guru panel....but my aerogate show 44c only....summore very tension when pc alwiz restart...arghhhh..stupid thermal proctection..... is there any bios or version of uguru that fix this temperature problem? |
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Aug 8 2005, 05:23 PM
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QUOTE(PCcrazy @ Aug 7 2005, 01:08 AM) If only you are not obsessed perhaps you can spot the grass might be greener on the other side also. can't u del the ABIT fan boy post?just del the DFI fan boy post yea |
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Aug 8 2005, 05:24 PM
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QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Aug 8 2005, 05:07 PM) ya lor...when i bench my temp go up until 80c on the guru panel....but my aerogate show 44c only....summore very tension when pc alwiz restart...arghhhh..stupid thermal proctection..... u better bring back to the place u buy it |
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Aug 8 2005, 05:25 PM
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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Aug 8 2005, 05:24 PM) u better bring back to the place u buy it i can confirm it is not running that hot...is the bios reading that is wrong....haiyah...where a bios editor when u need one??.... |
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Aug 8 2005, 05:36 PM
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QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Aug 8 2005, 05:07 PM) ya lor...when i bench my temp go up until 80c on the guru panel....but my aerogate show 44c only....summore very tension when pc alwiz restart...arghhhh..stupid thermal proctection..... QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Aug 8 2005, 05:25 PM) i can confirm it is not running that hot...is the bios reading that is wrong....haiyah...where a bios editor when u need one??.... is this a well known issue? hopefully abit will release a bios that have accurate temp reading.. |
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Aug 9 2005, 07:06 PM
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QUOTE(irenic @ Aug 8 2005, 05:36 PM) is this a well known issue? hopefully abit will release a bios that have accurate temp reading.. not only this...a lot more...from HD to GFX SLI incompabilities....my god what happend to Abit???And their forum got tons of questions and a few answers.... |
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Aug 10 2005, 12:03 AM
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QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Aug 9 2005, 07:06 PM) not only this...a lot more...from HD to GFX SLI incompabilities....my god what happend to Abit???And their forum got tons of questions and a few answers.... http://www.hardcoreware.net/reviews/review-297-10.htmGo f him lah So you decided to go with an SLI setup for your next rig. Probably going to pair it up with a 3000+ Venice, which can be had for under $150 at such places as Newegg.com. Obviously you're intending on overclocking that Venice to the absolute limits. To take it there, you're going to need some capable memory, like OCZ's new Enhanced Latency PC4800, with timings as low as 2.5-4-4-10 at 600 MHz. A gig of that goes for $255 at Newegg.com. Now you need a motherboard.. What are your choices? The Asus A8N SLI is absolutely everywhere. But can it OC like a b****? Does it have absolute full control over fan speeds? How about integrated temperature and voltage monitoring like you've never seen before? Nope. That leaves the DFI Lanparty boards. But it is bloated with extra features you don't need, driving the price up. And again, it doesn't have uGuru. That leaves you with Abit. They have two boards for you at this level: The "Fatal1ty" AN8 SLI, and the AN8 SLI we looked at today. From here, you have to decide if the $100 price premium is worth it for a uGuru panel, which is pretty damn cool, but not "almost twice the price" cool. The AN8 SLI. That's the board for you; no other will do. No other board does such a fantastic job of giving you exactly what you need, and absolutely nothing you don't. If you can't tell by now, I am blown away by uGuru. Its implementation is almost perfect, and offers you more benefit than things like extra ethernet controllers and PCI based RAID controllers you'll never want to use. The AN8 did pretty much everything else right too. Performance is top notch, layout is nearly perfect, and our sample was solid as a rock in weeks of testing. |
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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Aug 10 2005, 12:03 AM) http://www.hardcoreware.net/reviews/review-297-10.htm You forgot about my beloved MSI Neo4 Platinium SLI and Non SLI. And the Gigabyte too.Go f him lah So you decided to go with an SLI setup for your next rig. Probably going to pair it up with a 3000+ Venice, which can be had for under $150 at such places as Newegg.com. Obviously you're intending on overclocking that Venice to the absolute limits. To take it there, you're going to need some capable memory, like OCZ's new Enhanced Latency PC4800, with timings as low as 2.5-4-4-10 at 600 MHz. A gig of that goes for $255 at Newegg.com. Now you need a motherboard.. What are your choices? The Asus A8N SLI is absolutely everywhere. But can it OC like a b****? Does it have absolute full control over fan speeds? How about integrated temperature and voltage monitoring like you've never seen before? Nope. That leaves the DFI Lanparty boards. But it is bloated with extra features you don't need, driving the price up. And again, it doesn't have uGuru. That leaves you with Abit. They have two boards for you at this level: The "Fatal1ty" AN8 SLI, and the AN8 SLI we looked at today. From here, you have to decide if the $100 price premium is worth it for a uGuru panel, which is pretty damn cool, but not "almost twice the price" cool. The AN8 SLI. That's the board for you; no other will do. No other board does such a fantastic job of giving you exactly what you need, and absolutely nothing you don't. If you can't tell by now, I am blown away by uGuru. Its implementation is almost perfect, and offers you more benefit than things like extra ethernet controllers and PCI based RAID controllers you'll never want to use. The AN8 did pretty much everything else right too. Performance is top notch, layout is nearly perfect, and our sample was solid as a rock in weeks of testing. |
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Aug 10 2005, 01:52 PM
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i dont think top overclockers do need the uguru
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Aug 10 2005, 03:41 PM
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QUOTE The Fatal1ty AN8 costs about $50 less than its Pentium 4-bearing counterpart, the AA8XE, but that still rings it in at around $200. That's a lot to pay for a motherboard by anyone's standard. Still, if it provides a significant boost in performance, it's worth it, right? If you don't consider overclocking a critical factor, this is one of the best Athlon 64 boards we've tested. It's packed with good features, and extremely easy to work with. The benchmarks are the highest we've seen for an Athlon 64 FX-55. Will similar new chipset motherboards for AMD's CPUs deliver similar performance? We'll be taking a look at quite a few of them over the coming weeks, and it will be interesting to see how they stack up. Compared with the last-generation chipsets, it's a real winner. That said, we were extremely disappointed to find that we could hardly overclock our FX-55 chip at all. It's hard to know exactly where to place the blame for this—on the CPU, its cooling, or the motherboard. Still, for a motherboard that emphasizes overclocking, our lack of success is definitely bad news. The features and utilities for juicing up your CPU are fantastic, so this could be a great board for those users. We just didn't get there in our tests. At this price, this is obviously not a board for everyday users. If you're a hard-core enthusiast, we have no problem recommending it. The benchmark scores are fantastic, and the nForce 4 Ultra chipset delivers fantastic features. The slot layout is highly unusual and could be bad or good depending on what you plan to install, so plan accordingly. http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1776914,00.asp QUOTE The LanParty line of motherboards from DFI have always catered to the kind of PC enthusiast who likes to really push his components to the limit, and this one is no exception. It's not necessarily designed for ease of use, but for tweaking, tuning, poking, and prodding your components until you eke out every last bit of performance. The UV sensitive slots are a bit of extra eye candy for the case modders out there, but the real star of the show is the BIOS. DFI has done an exceptional job with adding the kind of BIOS features that hardcore PC builders really appreciate. The built-in MemTest86 and user-selectable backup BIOS banks are great ideas. Really extreme overclockers will get a kick out of pushing their expensive RAM up to 4 volts. Having said that, we find ourselves mystified about a couple of things. Why is DFI stuck in three-years-ago mode with no web-based, Windows BIOS update software? Why on earth would they put a x4 PCIe slot on a consumer motherboard? Why make the user change six large sets of jumper blocks to enable dual-graphics mode? Why put the analog audio jacks on a removable bracket when it's going to go in the back I/O panel anyway? None of these things are really problems, per se, but they're curious design decisions that we feel might be keeping the board from its full potential. If you're a hardcore overclocker, you've almost certainly heard of DFI's LanParty series before. You should know that this model continues the legacy of adding features to help you push your hardware beyond its intended specifications. It's also not outrageously expensive, and in fact costs a little less than many other nForce 4 Ultra motherboards on the market. If you don't plan on tweaking out your system, you may be better off with a board that includes more x1 PCIe slots, but there's still a lot to like here. Dual gigabit Ethernet and six USB 2.0 ports on the back I/O panel are features anyone can enjoy. http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1788677,00.asp This post has been edited by charge-n-go: Aug 10 2005, 03:44 PM |
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Aug 10 2005, 03:44 PM
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By the way, if u think Lan Party has unnecessary features, just go for the Ultra Infinity series. It's cheaper and overclock as good as Lan Party.
There's good and bad on both boards, depend on what you want for yourself. I assume in overclocker's united, more ppl will like to push the o/c to limit, so IMHO, DFI is still a better choice. Feature or not, tat doesnt matter, the ultimate goal is to get the highest o/c and best result. Well, if u wanna compare everything, and consider non-oc performance, it's better u post it in hardware section. This post has been edited by charge-n-go: Aug 10 2005, 03:47 PM |
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Aug 10 2005, 04:18 PM
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wehh...dfi geng...shooh shohh...dun make noise in here....shooh...shohh...
...here is for abit Fatal1ty discussion not ABIT VS DFI.....hahahaha...p/s:i hope ur happy cyberloner...a DFI fan's post being deleted in here.... |
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Aug 10 2005, 04:25 PM
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sorry sorry.... I forgotten the topic already. I was fired up by fanboy ma b4 this, hahaha. Now hv to bersabar
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Aug 10 2005, 04:32 PM
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hhehehe...i got both board...so i can 'say' or 'preach' in here....
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Aug 10 2005, 08:38 PM
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QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Aug 10 2005, 04:32 PM) hhehehe...i got both board...so i can 'say' or 'preach' in here.... antonio, you better keep it to yourself because I see no light at the end of the tunnel. Just talk about what is good that Abit can offer and provided if you have something negative to say, please do it in proper manner , otherwise it will end up in a flame war. I'm sure mods |
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Aug 11 2005, 09:18 AM
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QUOTE(PCcrazy @ Aug 10 2005, 08:38 PM) antonio, you better keep it to yourself because I see no light at the end of the tunnel. Just talk about what is good that Abit can offer and provided if you have something negative to say, please do it in proper manner the light is there...its just there is a wind blowing quite strong and trying to blow the light away...ok sorry Mr. Mod...i promise no more light through tunnels...i will just ignore what ever wind,typhoon,tsunami that comes along my path... , otherwise it will end up in a flame war. I'm sure mods |
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Aug 23 2005, 01:04 AM
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Check out newest bios 17
temp issue is fix... now it is working like champ |
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Aug 23 2005, 03:25 PM
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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Aug 23 2005, 01:04 AM) Check out newest bios 17 Bios Release Date 21/7/2005?temp issue is fix... now it is working like champ |
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Aug 23 2005, 10:36 PM
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QUOTE(Fries @ Aug 23 2005, 03:25 PM) Bios Release Date 21/7/2005? yups... i flashed it yesterday and so far i can say this is the best bios for this board. Sadly still cant solve the 1T issue.. In terms of temperature reading, i'm not sure whether Abit just simply minus 10C from temp in previous bios.. but my temp now is the correct one, 29 idle n around 38 full load at stock vcore. (almost same with my hardcano 13 and same with what my previous DFI lanparty reported) |
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Aug 24 2005, 09:17 AM
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QUOTE(irenic @ Aug 23 2005, 10:36 PM) yups... i flashed it yesterday and so far i can say this is the best bios for this board. Sadly still cant solve the 1T issue.. In terms of temperature reading, i'm not sure whether Abit just simply minus 10C from temp in previous bios.. but my temp now is the correct one, 29 idle n around 38 full load at stock vcore. (almost same with my hardcano 13 and same with what my previous DFI lanparty reported) After flashing to bios 17, my computer started to get crazy. After booting for a while, it suddenly reboot by itself. When I check the bios, I found out that my FanEQ2 Control gone haywire. I don't have both the OTES FanEQ on display. Only AUX FanEQ Control available. and at the top of the screen there's some weird thingy displaying there.Don't know what is happening. Sometimes when it reboot by itself, it can't POST at all. Anybody can help me with this? Or anyone experience it?Btw, I flashed using Abit FlashMenu. |
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Aug 24 2005, 09:58 AM
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I'd reflash but from a floppy this time.
Have been burned too many times by Windows based BIOS flashes to do it again (other than on a dual-bios Gigabyte board that is). |
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Aug 24 2005, 10:02 AM
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QUOTE(MacDaNife @ Aug 24 2005, 09:58 AM) I'd reflash but from a floppy this time. Err, another problem is, I don't have a floppy drive!!! Have been burned too many times by Windows based BIOS flashes to do it again (other than on a dual-bios Gigabyte board that is). |
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Aug 24 2005, 12:25 PM
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QUOTE(Fries @ Aug 24 2005, 09:17 AM) After flashing to bios 17, my computer started to get crazy. hmm first of all plz tell ur current specs.. and Fyi, i also flashed using winflash that comes with DFI lanparty board After booting for a while, it suddenly reboot by itself. When I check the bios, I found out that my FanEQ2 Control gone haywire. I don't have both the OTES FanEQ on display. Only AUX FanEQ Control available. and at the top of the screen there's some weird thingy displaying there.Don't know what is happening. Sometimes when it reboot by itself, it can't POST at all. Anybody can help me with this? Or anyone experience it?Btw, I flashed using Abit FlashMenu. |
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Aug 24 2005, 01:40 PM
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QUOTE(irenic @ Aug 24 2005, 12:25 PM) hmm first of all plz tell ur current specs.. and Fyi, i also flashed using winflash that comes with DFI lanparty board Hehehe. Ok:Venice 3000+ Vanilla AN8 2*512 Apacer PC3200 Galaxy 6600GT AudioMAX card 80G HDD DVD Drive 430W CoolerMaster That's about it. Last time I flashed bios 16 using FlashMenu, and no problem at all. It's just yesterday that I flashed to bios 17, then it happened. Anybody knows the solution? |
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Aug 24 2005, 01:45 PM
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hmm maybe a bad flash? i never experience it but i guess maybe u can try flash again using winflash?
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Aug 24 2005, 02:00 PM
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try using the flash command.. and make sure /f is there to force flash the bios..
it should be something like this awdflash 17.bin /py /sn /cc /cp etc etc then /f can't remember the full code i used for the AN8.. it's been a while |
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Aug 24 2005, 08:14 PM
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QUOTE(Fries @ Aug 24 2005, 09:17 AM) After flashing to bios 17, my computer started to get crazy. u need to set the ram timing by manual.... After booting for a while, it suddenly reboot by itself. When I check the bios, I found out that my FanEQ2 Control gone haywire. I don't have both the OTES FanEQ on display. Only AUX FanEQ Control available. and at the top of the screen there's some weird thingy displaying there.Don't know what is happening. Sometimes when it reboot by itself, it can't POST at all. Anybody can help me with this? Or anyone experience it?Btw, I flashed using Abit FlashMenu. ras precharge time should be 3 if u are using normal ddr400 ram... dun forget to reset the cmos before using new bios... it is recoomended to flash under pure dos... and type the runme.bat batch file & follow the instruction.... This post has been edited by cyberloner: Aug 24 2005, 08:16 PM |
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Aug 25 2005, 08:12 AM
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hmm... need some help
ppl say for hardcore O/Cers.... get DFI... or not get Abit how much o/c do u consider hardcore? if i got only a venice if d43s? is tat hardcore? |
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Aug 25 2005, 08:46 AM
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for those who wanna archieve high scored...
for those who hv fun for twist and tune... DFI is their choice... if u are getting headache wif all the setting... get a abit board, less setting for ram and cpu... still good, but less fun... |
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Aug 27 2005, 12:25 AM
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QUOTE(SeLrAhC @ Aug 25 2005, 08:12 AM) hmm... need some help spend more die fasterppl say for hardcore O/Cers.... get DFI... or not get Abit how much o/c do u consider hardcore? if i got only a venice if d43s? is tat hardcore? i am a damn poor guy i am not that rich to buy DFI 9XX i buy ABIT 4xx only stop say abit and dfi liao.. dun forget DFI guy is born in abit too so in my opinion... maybe abit dun pay him enough money to stay with abit ... go DFI sell technologies noh buy expensive hardware = hardcore guy meh? think again brother This post has been edited by cyberloner: Aug 27 2005, 12:37 AM |
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Aug 27 2005, 12:31 AM
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off topic... irenic, u mention before an8 have prob with 1T.. actly i dont know diff between 1t and 2t... how to change it ??
just change my board + cpu + ram.. no OC yet.. AMD64 venice 0523 AN8 ultra bios 15 Apacer DT-D43 |
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Aug 27 2005, 11:58 AM
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QUOTE(wadieq @ Aug 27 2005, 12:31 AM) off topic... irenic, u mention before an8 have prob with 1T.. actly i dont know diff between 1t and 2t... how to change it ?? I also dunno whats the diff between 1T n 2T in theory, but what i know is 1T gives more performance than 2T. just change my board + cpu + ram.. no OC yet.. AMD64 venice 0523 AN8 ultra bios 15 Apacer DT-D43 U can change it in advanced chipset configuration in bios and in the ram setting at the bottom got command rate ( u can choose either auto, 1T or 2T ; default is auto) an8 has prob with 1T if u r using either venice or sandy. I think clawhammer or newcastle dont have this prob.. |
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Aug 27 2005, 06:38 PM
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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Aug 27 2005, 12:25 AM) spend more die faster Friend go easy on him laa, he's asking an innocent question only nia ma. And Oskar Woo left Abit for his own reasons. So don't speculate laa ok? And Oskar Woo's speciallity is in the BIOS designing part. The rest is still DFi's own work in the end. And not necessary expensive means hardcore. Since when one can equate to such?i am a damn poor guy i am not that rich to buy DFI 9XX i buy ABIT 4xx only stop say abit and dfi liao.. dun forget DFI guy is born in abit too so in my opinion... maybe abit dun pay him enough money to stay with abit ... go DFI sell technologies noh buy expensive hardware = hardcore guy meh? think again brother |
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Aug 27 2005, 07:55 PM
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QUOTE(irenic @ Aug 27 2005, 11:58 AM) I also dunno whats the diff between 1T n 2T in theory, but what i know is 1T gives more performance than 2T. if i set auto ... it give me 1T setting.. btw.. tq.. going to OC my new rig nextweek... too busy this weekU can change it in advanced chipset configuration in bios and in the ram setting at the bottom got command rate ( u can choose either auto, 1T or 2T ; default is auto) an8 has prob with 1T if u r using either venice or sandy. I think clawhammer or newcastle dont have this prob.. itz my venice in a good batch ?? 0523 |
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Aug 30 2005, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Aug 24 2005, 08:14 PM) u need to set the ram timing by manual.... All this while been using DDR333 divider. The rest set to auto. No problem until I changed to bios17. Reverted back to 13 and 16, and the same thing still happen. Sent for RMA last week. Now have to wait. ras precharge time should be 3 if u are using normal ddr400 ram... dun forget to reset the cmos before using new bios... it is recoomended to flash under pure dos... and type the runme.bat batch file & follow the instruction.... |
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Aug 31 2005, 02:19 AM
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hmm hmmm.. i think abit is d 1 for me
errr... any1 let going their abit board pls lemme know |
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Sep 3 2005, 07:51 PM
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Currently using D43 Hynix and Winchester. No issues running 1T memory at 243HTT. Ratio to CPU is 1:1. The 1T setting is set to Auto.
So far, I've died one DFI (but that was 875P-T) but all my Abit boards so far are okay. Personal preference is Abit as it: 1. Has easy reset CMOS function at the front panel. 2. Cool red LEDs that work with my UV lightings. 3. Rock stable now with SLI mode on and moderate overclocking of the CPU. 4. Good motherboard layout although the Floppy connector is the only gripe. 5. VDIMM at 3.55V although I never needed more than 2.9V for my D43. 6. No issues at all with my cheap D43 RAM. Anyone else has anything to share about Abit boards, please do post here... I find it very informative. |
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Sep 4 2005, 01:11 AM
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go abit forum
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Sep 4 2005, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Aug 27 2005, 12:25 AM) spend more die faster agree man. i am a damn poor guy i am not that rich to buy DFI 9XX i buy ABIT 4xx only stop say abit and dfi liao.. dun forget DFI guy is born in abit too so in my opinion... maybe abit dun pay him enough money to stay with abit ... go DFI sell technologies noh buy expensive hardware = hardcore guy meh? think again brother |
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Sep 4 2005, 01:28 PM
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Flashed to bios 17 and verified that the temperature issue is solved. Will try out the stability over these few days.
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Sep 4 2005, 05:54 PM
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who says AN8 Ultra cant do high HTT @ 1T ?
351 mhz HTT @ 1T http://www.xtremecomputing.co.uk/review.php?id=192&page=6 This post has been edited by dinster: Sep 4 2005, 05:55 PM |
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Sep 8 2005, 10:19 PM
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So far with my Winnie 3500+ overclocked to 2.7ghz no issues or hangs. Another good and stable mobo from Abit.
Only thing is that whenever I go for standby, even disabling waking up from USB or LAN, it will automatically wake up. Anyone has any recommendation for this S3 issue? |
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Sep 8 2005, 10:31 PM
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QUOTE(dinster @ Sep 4 2005, 05:54 PM) who says AN8 Ultra cant do high HTT @ 1T ? i guess the problem only occurs with either venice or sandy processor 351 mhz HTT @ 1T http://www.xtremecomputing.co.uk/review.php?id=192&page=6 |
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Sep 9 2005, 10:22 AM
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QUOTE(irenic @ Sep 8 2005, 10:31 PM) i guess the problem only occurs with either venice or sandy processor yo irenic did u notice in bios such as the SLI Fatality...when sumtimes u play with settings the OTES 1 and 2 control is gone...you know why??? |
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Sep 9 2005, 08:05 PM
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QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Sep 9 2005, 10:22 AM) yo irenic did u notice in bios such as the SLI Fatality...when sumtimes u play with settings the OTES 1 and 2 control is gone...you know why??? erm i never experienced that.. but i always disable the automatic fan control for both OTES so that the fans will keep spinning no matter what the temp is.. |
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Sep 10 2005, 05:26 AM
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QUOTE(Fries @ Aug 30 2005, 03:42 PM) All this while been using DDR333 divider. The rest set to auto. No problem until I changed to bios17. Reverted back to 13 and 16, and the same thing still happen. Sent for RMA last week. Now have to wait. You need to see the ram speed timing of your ram.. or u are using 4 stick of ram...memory controller is build in the cpu and not same as nforce2 technologies.... by rma it won't help ... cause it is cpu memory timing issue... |
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Sep 10 2005, 09:34 PM
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just light OC my rig ... using 1 : 1 with my KVR chip kingston week 2 2005 can up till 270FSB 1T @ 2.9v with no problem at all.. why irenic said that Abit AN8 ultra hav problem with 1T timing ??
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Sep 10 2005, 10:43 PM
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Yup, mine works with 1T as well but limited to 250HTT as D43 limit.
BTW, slightly off topic, why not get the SLI version for a little more money but are assured you have a good upgrade path in the future? Try bios 17, it should solve CPU temperature issues as well. QUOTE(wadieq @ Sep 10 2005, 09:34 PM) just light OC my rig ... using 1 : 1 with my KVR chip kingston week 2 2005 can up till 270FSB 1T @ 2.9v with no problem at all.. why irenic said that Abit AN8 ultra hav problem with 1T timing ?? *use bios 15 |
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Sep 11 2005, 01:33 AM
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i am using 1T too
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Sep 11 2005, 02:12 PM
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then maybe the problem comes with sandy
btw, not all having the same problem. thats good u all manage to go high with 1T, some dont even can run 1T at default setting.. Mine can do up to 220fsb 1T.. more than that must use 2T. |
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Sep 11 2005, 09:07 PM
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really "pening" ler wanna change my system to 939.
guys please help me. i need mobo and proc( for serious gaming oc XTREME) read lotz of review dfi ler abit ler,,, vience/winchister le. hope u guys can gimme solution. i just want good mobo- like abit nf7 at the old time. and proc like t-bred JIUH"B" that can oc sky high. TOPIC STARTER,,, sorry to borrow your thread,,,if i open the new one then mod will start bit*hing. This post has been edited by Mr_47: Sep 11 2005, 09:42 PM |
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Sep 11 2005, 09:25 PM
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DFI lanparty series = super oc board. got many settings in bios to play with. easy to get supports /advice from experts from all over the world (forum). Quite sensitive with ram, especially the value ram. It can be very stable, or very not stable, like cold boot, or 4 leds of death (depends on ur luck & other hardware)
ABIT an8 = Great stability. Flexible with a lot of ram, from value ram to high performance ram. Limited setting in bios. Nice oc board, but u'll lose a few Mhz of oc compared to DFI. ASUS a8n = I'm not sure bout this board, but quite a lot of people manage to get a good result with it. It's all ur choice |
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Sep 11 2005, 09:44 PM
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QUOTE(irenic @ Sep 11 2005, 09:25 PM) DFI lanparty series = super oc board. got many settings in bios to play with. easy to get supports /advice from experts from all over the world (forum). Quite sensitive with ram, especially the value ram. It can be very stable, or very not stable, like cold boot, or 4 leds of death (depends on ur luck & other hardware) all this mobo fit ka with my sig spec.... excpt proc, 3dcard, mobo.(3 things that i want to upgrade.)ABIT an8 = Great stability. Flexible with a lot of ram, from value ram to high performance ram. Limited setting in bios. Nice oc board, but u'll lose a few Mhz of oc compared to DFI. ASUS a8n = I'm not sure bout this board, but quite a lot of people manage to get a good result with it. It's all ur choice normal kingston valueram ddr400 hynix d-43 can use ka? or it use ddr2 tech? what abou proc,,,? amd64 can oc high <rm600??? any idea? can use normal harddisk??( i'm not using sata btw) This post has been edited by Mr_47: Sep 11 2005, 09:49 PM |
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Sep 11 2005, 09:48 PM
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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Sep 11 2005, 09:44 PM) all this mobo fit ka with my sig spec.... excpt proc, 3dcard, mobo.(3 things that i want to upgrade.) Yes, definetely those things will work. DDR2 tech is not compatible for AMD64 yet.normal kingston valueram ddr400 hynix d-43 can use ka? or it use ddr2 tech? what abou proc,,,? amd64 can oc high <rm600??? any idea? |
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Sep 11 2005, 09:59 PM
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QUOTE(PCcrazy @ Sep 11 2005, 09:48 PM) Yes, definetely those things will work. DDR2 tech is not compatible for AMD64 yet. so i just get the new proc(?) + cpu cooler(cm hyper 48 good ka?) + 3dcard(maybe single winfast 6800 256mb,,btw any good ati?) + mobo (i choose abit AN8-Ultra with otes) . then mix with my old system stuff.gonna buy it at the end of this year btw. now i really need idea about -proc? and the normal air cooler hsf? This post has been edited by Mr_47: Sep 11 2005, 10:25 PM |
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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Sep 11 2005, 09:59 PM) so i just get the new proc(?) + cpu cooler(cm hyper 48 good ka?) + 3dcard(maybe single winfast 6800 256mb) + mobo (i choose abit AN8-Ultra with otes) . then mix with my old system stuff. if at the end of this year, then maybe u just hold thinking what hardware u gonna buy.. coz maybe at that time ATi crossfire card & board will be widely available in lowyat gonna buy it at the end of this year btw. now i really need idea about -proc? and the normal air cooler hsf? |
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Sep 11 2005, 10:38 PM
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QUOTE(irenic @ Sep 11 2005, 10:31 PM) if at the end of this year, then maybe u just hold thinking what hardware u gonna buy.. coz maybe at that time ATi crossfire card & board will be widely available in lowyat i've never big fan to ati but now gonna keep dreaming about 64bit system. we'll see it soon,, if i change my mind about ati |
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Sep 11 2005, 11:14 PM
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Beware of DFI mobo with D43 ram. I am using Hynix and that's the primary reason I didn't buy DFI although it is a splendid board; if you get the settings right.
Some of my recommendations are as follows; they represent my interpretation of value for money hardware: CPU - X2 3800+ Mobo - Abit A8N-SLI (go for Fatality if you have budget) GPU - 6800GT single or SLI. Sound Card - Creative X-Fi if you could afford it. Otherwise, on board Abit mobo will do. CPU cooler - Thermalright XP90C or XP120. Hard Drive - Any SATA II with NCQ would be fitting. Otherwise, Raptor 74GB is exceptionally good for fast response times. Optical Drive - LG Supermulti DVDRW. GSA 4165 or above. Now, do some research on the web with these headstart information and see what's best for you and your wallet. |
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Sep 11 2005, 11:20 PM
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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Sep 11 2005, 10:38 PM) i've never big fan to ati u dont have to be a fan.. just buy any product that can perform better~ but now gonna keep dreaming about 64bit system. we'll see it soon,, if i change my mind about ati |
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Sep 12 2005, 01:25 AM
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QUOTE(irenic @ Sep 11 2005, 11:20 PM) u dont have to be a fan.. just buy any product that can perform better~ smart buyer. BTW: why dfi so problematic with valueram? |
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Sep 12 2005, 01:39 AM
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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Sep 12 2005, 01:25 AM) smart buyer. I don't know the answers to this question since I'm not Oskar Wu nor I'm electronic engineer. But I'm guessing that, it's the way they write BIOSes for those board. It tends to cater those of high performance series. So by default, everything stock is already stressed out hence causing problems for some Value RAM. But anyhow, the best method of solving this is by BIOS update and initial booting with only single dimm slot occupied. After that everything is to be set manually to avoid unnecessary stressing of the RAM. Well, I might be wrong and I really hope for someone who knows the right answer to step forward and clarify. BTW: why dfi so problematic with valueram? |
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Sep 12 2005, 08:11 AM
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QUOTE(jarofclay @ Sep 11 2005, 11:14 PM) Beware of DFI mobo with D43 ram. I am using Hynix and that's the primary reason I didn't buy DFI although it is a splendid board; if you get the settings right. Sound Card - Creative X-Fi if you could afford it. Otherwise, on board Abit mobo will do.Some of my recommendations are as follows; they represent my interpretation of value for money hardware: CPU - X2 3800+ Mobo - Abit A8N-SLI (go for Fatality if you have budget) GPU - 6800GT single or SLI. Sound Card - Creative X-Fi if you could afford it. Otherwise, on board Abit mobo will do. CPU cooler - Thermalright XP90C or XP120. Hard Drive - Any SATA II with NCQ would be fitting. Otherwise, Raptor 74GB is exceptionally good for fast response times. Optical Drive - LG Supermulti DVDRW. GSA 4165 or above. Now, do some research on the web with these headstart information and see what's best for you and your wallet. that line have problem... Nforce have problem with X-FI |
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Sep 12 2005, 08:16 AM
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QUOTE(PCcrazy @ Sep 12 2005, 01:39 AM) I don't know the answers to this question since I'm not Oskar Wu nor I'm electronic engineer. But I'm guessing that, it's the way they write BIOSes for those board. It tends to cater those of high performance series. So by default, everything stock is already stressed out hence causing problems for some Value RAM. But anyhow, the best method of solving this is by BIOS update and initial booting with only single dimm slot occupied. After that everything is to be set manually to avoid unnecessary stressing of the RAM. Well, I might be wrong and I really hope for someone who knows the right answer to step forward and clarify. DFI cannot use Kingston Value ar? |
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Sep 12 2005, 08:33 AM
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Kind enough to provide a link for us all to learn?
QUOTE(cyberloner @ Sep 12 2005, 08:11 AM) Sound Card - Creative X-Fi if you could afford it. Otherwise, on board Abit mobo will do. that line have problem... Nforce have problem with X-FI |
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Sep 12 2005, 08:57 AM
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QUOTE(jarofclay @ Sep 12 2005, 08:33 AM) Kind enough to provide a link for us all to learn? http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/bo...scending&page=1yeah read all as u can |
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Sep 12 2005, 10:57 AM
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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Sep 12 2005, 08:16 AM) DFI cannot use Kingston Value ar? Like Pccrazy said before, DFI board is already optimized for high performance ram so they can run to their max.. As a result, el cheapo ram aka value ram cant handle the stress resulting instability..This post has been edited by irenic: Sep 12 2005, 10:58 AM |
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QUOTE(irenic @ Sep 9 2005, 08:05 PM) erm i never experienced that.. but i always disable the automatic fan control for both OTES so that the fans will keep spinning no matter what the temp is.. i wanted to disable the OTES but menu gone...how to disable then??? hahahah..other problem factors of the mobo is the way it tend to not boot after a high overclock...it alwiz want to be discharge fully around 1 hour to boot up again...-sigh-but i like the LED tho...it makes at nite easier to 'see' |
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Sep 12 2005, 12:07 PM
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Get an Abit then, it automatically resets the clocks and reboots whenever I overclocked it too high; whether it is memory timings or HTT. Heheh.
That's exactly the reason why I dun like DFI; I had very bad experience after flashing the bios of the 875P-T; where the mobo just died on me. RMA took me three months and still haven't received the board back... sighhhhhh. QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Sep 12 2005, 11:54 AM) i wanted to disable the OTES but menu gone...how to disable then??? hahahah..other problem factors of the mobo is the way it tend to not boot after a high overclock...it alwiz want to be discharge fully around 1 hour to boot up again...-sigh-but i like the LED tho...it makes at nite easier to 'see' |
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Sep 12 2005, 02:32 PM
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QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Sep 12 2005, 11:54 AM) i wanted to disable the OTES but menu gone...how to disable then??? hahahah..other problem factors of the mobo is the way it tend to not boot after a high overclock...it alwiz want to be discharge fully around 1 hour to boot up again...-sigh-but i like the LED tho...it makes at nite easier to 'see' QUOTE(jarofclay @ Sep 12 2005, 12:07 PM) Get an Abit then, it automatically resets the clocks and reboots whenever I overclocked it too high; whether it is memory timings or HTT. Heheh. With my current Abit : If my oc not stable, it will shut down during win xp loading. but after that i still manage to switch on my pc normally without has to reset cmos.That's exactly the reason why I dun like DFI; I had very bad experience after flashing the bios of the 875P-T; where the mobo just died on me. RMA took me three months and still haven't received the board back... sighhhhhh. With my previous DFI SLI D : It will shut down or wont boot at all. then i have to press & hold Delete button while switch on my pc. Dun have to reset cmos also. I admit that i do miss DFI board, due to its performance.. But this Abit is a better board for me coz it has balance between stability and performance Less headache~!! |
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Sep 12 2005, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE(irenic @ Sep 12 2005, 02:32 PM) With my current Abit : If my oc not stable, it will shut down during win xp loading. but after that i still manage to switch on my pc normally without has to reset cmos. yes u r right... if u dont OC.. abit perform much better than dfi.. and when u OC.. dfi much higher.. With my previous DFI SLI D : It will shut down or wont boot at all. then i have to press & hold Delete button while switch on my pc. Dun have to reset cmos also. I admit that i do miss DFI board, due to its performance.. But this Abit is a better board for me coz it has balance between stability and performance Less headache~!! *my abit also i must reset cmos if i manage oc too high.... |
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Sep 12 2005, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE(irenic @ Sep 12 2005, 02:32 PM) With my current Abit : If my oc not stable, it will shut down during win xp loading. but after that i still manage to switch on my pc normally without has to reset cmos. in other words.."Senang Main" With my previous DFI SLI D : It will shut down or wont boot at all. then i have to press & hold Delete button while switch on my pc. Dun have to reset cmos also. I admit that i do miss DFI board, due to its performance.. But this Abit is a better board for me coz it has balance between stability and performance Less headache~!! |
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Sep 12 2005, 07:22 PM
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Yeah lor, coz no point la if you buy so expensive rigs and the time you spent on troubleshooting is more than using the system; totally the opposite of reason of using PC.
THe original point of PC is to service us and make things easy for us; not the other way around. And yes, I've read thru almost the whole creative thread on X-Fi having issues. It seems that the problem is more prevalent on Abit as MSI nforce4 mobo has a patch to resolve it. QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Sep 12 2005, 03:21 PM) in other words.."Senang Main" |
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Sep 12 2005, 09:07 PM
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ABIT old clocker ler...
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Sep 15 2005, 02:46 AM
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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Sep 12 2005, 09:07 PM) ABIT old clocker ler... old but still powerfull. like old man 70+ handle 16'sweetbabe. with no prob at all.This post has been edited by Mr_47: Sep 15 2005, 02:48 AM |
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QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Sep 9 2005, 10:22 AM) yo irenic did u notice in bios such as the SLI Fatality...when sumtimes u play with settings the OTES 1 and 2 control is gone...you know why??? That's the prob I'm facing. Then it restarted by itself. The bestpart is, it restarted while I'm flashing back to 16. QUOTE(cyberloner @ Sep 10 2005, 05:26 AM) You need to see the ram speed timing of your ram.. or u are using 4 stick of ram... I sent for RMA because of the BIOS that crashed. Btw, I'm using a pair of rams only.memory controller is build in the cpu and not same as nforce2 technologies.... by rma it won't help ... cause it is cpu memory timing issue... Just got back my board. They changed the BIOS chip, and now I'm on the default 13 again. Afraid of flashing it to 17. anybody can help? My set don't have floppy drive. |
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Sep 15 2005, 09:42 AM
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QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Sep 12 2005, 11:54 AM) i wanted to disable the OTES but menu gone...how to disable then??? hahahah..other problem factors of the mobo is the way it tend to not boot after a high overclock...it alwiz want to be discharge fully around 1 hour to boot up again...-sigh-but i like the LED tho...it makes at nite easier to 'see' QUOTE(jarofclay @ Sep 12 2005, 12:07 PM) Get an Abit then, it automatically resets the clocks and reboots whenever I overclocked it too high; whether it is memory timings or HTT. Heheh. What are you talking about? Any other vendor besides Abit using OTES?That's exactly the reason why I dun like DFI; I had very bad experience after flashing the bios of the 875P-T; where the mobo just died on me. RMA took me three months and still haven't received the board back... sighhhhhh. |
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Sep 15 2005, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE(Fries @ Sep 15 2005, 09:29 AM) That's the prob I'm facing. Then it restarted by itself. The bestpart is, it restarted while I'm flashing back to 16. What kind of ram u are using? I sent for RMA because of the BIOS that crashed. Btw, I'm using a pair of rams only. Just got back my board. They changed the BIOS chip, and now I'm on the default 13 again. Afraid of flashing it to 17. anybody can help? My set don't have floppy drive. Just flash 17... it is cooler and stable more... set ram timing to manual and set ras precharge to 3 if you are using normal ram... Put ram at slot 3 -4 can gain better stability... hope this help... about bios flashing... u can install flash menu and download the bios 1st and update by file ... dun ever flash online or live update... |
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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Sep 15 2005, 10:33 AM) What kind of ram u are using? Hehehe. Yup, planning to do so, AGAIN. Actually, it's not cooler, it's just cooler, because you believe what you're seeing. The temperature will be the same, it's just that the sensor need to be calibrated to show the actual temperature. Who knows, maybe they just minus 10 degrees or so from the actual temp? Hehehe.Just flash 17... it is cooler and stable more... set ram timing to manual and set ras precharge to 3 if you are using normal ram... Put ram at slot 3 -4 can gain better stability... hope this help... about bios flashing... u can install flash menu and download the bios 1st and update by file ... dun ever flash online or live update... I'm using a pair of Apacer ram. Checked with CPU-Z, it can do 2.5-4-4-8 by default, if I'm not mistaken. That's the only thing I can afford at the time I bought my set. And I don't know much about rams. Just grab the cheapest. Moreover, I just oc my cpu while the rams are set to run at 400 or lower using divider. So, why should I get a good ram? Maybe later... 3-4? Really? I thought... ... ... Never mind... Will try later. Hopefully won't send my board for RMA, AGAIN This post has been edited by Fries: Sep 15 2005, 03:35 PM |
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Sep 15 2005, 03:38 PM
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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Sep 15 2005, 10:33 AM) about bios flashing... u can install flash menu and download the bios 1st and update by file ... dun ever flash online or live update... That's what I've been doing all this while. No phone line at home. Everything offline.16th Sept. Flashed to 17 last night. A little bit worried when flashing. Dare not let it run the whole night, yet. Will see if it's okay after this. Then only will start to oc. This weekend just want to pay up the 3 weeks of no games. This post has been edited by Fries: Sep 16 2005, 12:16 PM |
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Sep 17 2005, 11:38 AM
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Abit is good bro, Me gettin AN8-Sli fatality, OC wise stable because of UGuru
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Sep 17 2005, 12:24 PM
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Saturday, Sept 17.
It happened again!!! ARRGH!!! Ran it overnight. Then this morning played some games. Right after closing the last game, it rebooted itself. Went into BIOS, both my OTES fan settings are gone. Only AUX left. Now the only way to control the OTES fan is through ABIT OC software. Anyone else facing this problem? Is bios 17 really stable? Because I don't have this problem while using bios 16. Somebody HELP!!! |
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QUOTE(Fries @ Sep 17 2005, 12:24 PM) Saturday, Sept 17. I had this problem no matter bios stock,15, or even 16...that is the problem i've been trying to tell ya all about.... It happened again!!! ARRGH!!! Ran it overnight. Then this morning played some games. Right after closing the last game, it rebooted itself. Went into BIOS, both my OTES fan settings are gone. Only AUX left. Now the only way to control the OTES fan is through ABIT OC software. Anyone else facing this problem? Is bios 17 really stable? Because I don't have this problem while using bios 16. Somebody HELP!!! |
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Sep 17 2005, 12:49 PM
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u need to reset cmos after flash brother...
if the otes cannot be detected... i think there might be problem with your casing and mobo... try remove the mobo outside the casing with no harddisk , no cd-rom and other external devices.... boot and see if it is there... and plug in by one device see everything is ok... after that... if you sit the mobo inside the casing and having problem again... it would be the casing is bend adi.... you need to troubleshoot it.... |
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Sep 17 2005, 12:52 PM
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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Sep 17 2005, 12:49 PM) u need to reset cmos after flash brother... if the otes cannot be detected... i think there might be problem with your casing and mobo... try remove the mobo outside the casing with no harddisk , no cd-rom and other external devices.... boot and see if it is there... and plug in by one device see everything is ok... after that... if you sit the mobo inside the casing and having problem again... it would be the casing is bend adi.... you need to troubleshoot it.... when my OTES menu missing my board was on a box and below the box were a sound dampening piece (insuflex)... |
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Sep 17 2005, 12:53 PM
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QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Sep 17 2005, 12:42 PM) I had this problem no matter bios stock,15, or even 16...that is the problem i've been trying to tell ya all about.... I know you're having this problem before, but does it restart by itself? Last time, when it happened, no matter what version you flash after that, the problem won't go away. It only happen after I flashed to version 17. Afraid have to RMA again. Because last time, it restarted while flashing. And it took me 3 weeks!! |
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Sep 17 2005, 12:57 PM
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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Sep 17 2005, 12:49 PM) u need to reset cmos after flash brother... That's not the case. What do you think, if the board is inside the casing, and you can't see it, then you describe that undetected? if the otes cannot be detected... i think there might be problem with your casing and mobo... try remove the mobo outside the casing with no harddisk , no cd-rom and other external devices.... boot and see if it is there... and plug in by one device see everything is ok... after that... if you sit the mobo inside the casing and having problem again... it would be the casing is bend adi.... you need to troubleshoot it....  Even if it is set up in the open space also, it still can't be detected! |
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QUOTE(Fries @ Sep 17 2005, 12:53 PM) I know you're having this problem before, but does it restart by itself? Last time, when it happened, no matter what version you flash after that, the problem won't go away. It only happen after I flashed to version 17. yerp...restarting itself the need to press the nuke symbol to reset cmos...and sumtimes reset cmos oso doesnt help in restarting back the computer....i have to take out the battery...wait an hour or so....then only put back the battery...and wallaaa...it boots with default value.... Afraid have to RMA again. Because last time, it restarted while flashing. And it took me 3 weeks!!  |
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Sep 17 2005, 01:25 PM
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QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Sep 17 2005, 01:01 PM) yerp...restarting itself the need to press the nuke symbol to reset cmos...and sumtimes reset cmos oso doesnt help in restarting back the computer....i have to take out the battery...wait an hour or so....then only put back the battery...and wallaaa...it boots with default value.... Yup. And the problem is still there. It won't go away. |
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Sep 17 2005, 01:41 PM
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QUOTE(Fries @ Sep 17 2005, 01:25 PM) Yup. And the problem is still there. It won't go away. try flash back to bios 15 and reset ur bios.. itz never happend to me either An8 or An8 ultra |
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Sep 17 2005, 02:06 PM
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QUOTE(wadieq @ Sep 17 2005, 01:41 PM) try flash back to bios 15 and reset ur bios.. itz never happend to me either An8 or An8 ultra It happened to me and antonio_zth. Now I'm afraid of flashing it anymore. Last time I did that, it restarted by itself during flashing. Hate to send it for RMA. |
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Sep 17 2005, 02:48 PM
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I think it should be a bug...
Please blackbox abit about it... sure new bios can fix that problem... |
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Sep 17 2005, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Sep 17 2005, 02:48 PM) I think it should be a bug... Sent a report to Abit's technical support just now. Just wondering if anyone else having the same problem.Please blackbox abit about it... sure new bios can fix that problem... |
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Sep 17 2005, 10:54 PM
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Sep 18 2005, 12:00 AM
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is this board good & stable for amd x2 processor?
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Sep 18 2005, 01:00 AM
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irenic i can see a lot of user use san diego with all AN8 XXX version... in the abit forum
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QUOTE(aaron_lwm @ Sep 17 2005, 11:38 AM) Abit is good bro, Me gettin AN8-Sli fatality, OC wise stable because of UGuru So ou're getting the same board as mine. Though mine is not the fatal1ty, but they are almost identtical anywayQUOTE(Fries @ Sep 17 2005, 12:24 PM) Anyone else facing this problem? Is bios 17 really stable? Because I don't have this problem while using bios 16. I'm using bios 17 and it is running fine. Hand when I try to OC it using software though...Somebody HELP!!! |
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QUOTE(irenic @ Sep 18 2005, 12:00 AM) is this board good & stable for amd x2 processor? Make sure you update the bios to the one that supports X2 though. If you do it after windows reinstallation, using the uGuru utility to update the bios, you'll need to reinstall windows again.I leaned that the HARD way This post has been edited by wild_card_my: Sep 18 2005, 08:24 AM |
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Lazy to find out exactly which version, but ver 17 so far has been very stable. No reboots nor shutdowns after flashing to it.
I flashed it in windows. However, I downloaded the bin file to the hard drive first and then use the utility to flash from file. 1. Immediately after flashing rebooted the system and then set the bios to default. 2. Rebooted it. 3. Go into bios again, set the ram timings and other settings correctly to reflect the overclock. 4. Then boot into windows. Using these 4 steps, it helps eliminate the issue where you have your RAM timings wrongly. Usually, if a machine reboots by itself, that means your RAM tak tahan already. So far, using bios 17, I've managed to have stability, have support for X2 (If you use the default Abit boot screen, it will show you the X2, FX and 64 logos) and the dreaded temperature issue is resolved. Just my sharing to help get you guys solve this issue. BIOS 17 is great!! |
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QUOTE(jarofclay @ Sep 18 2005, 11:04 AM) Lazy to find out exactly which version, but ver 17 so far has been very stable. No reboots nor shutdowns after flashing to it. yes.. bios 17 the best fo now.. X2, FX and 64 logos show since bios 15... fries ! what board that u use ?? AN8 sli ??I flashed it in windows. However, I downloaded the bin file to the hard drive first and then use the utility to flash from file. 1. Immediately after flashing rebooted the system and then set the bios to default. 2. Rebooted it. 3. Go into bios again, set the ram timings and other settings correctly to reflect the overclock. 4. Then boot into windows. Using these 4 steps, it helps eliminate the issue where you have your RAM timings wrongly. Usually, if a machine reboots by itself, that means your RAM tak tahan already. So far, using bios 17, I've managed to have stability, have support for X2 (If you use the default Abit boot screen, it will show you the X2, FX and 64 logos) and the dreaded temperature issue is resolved. Just my sharing to help get you guys solve this issue. BIOS 17 is great!! |
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QUOTE(wadieq @ Sep 18 2005, 03:01 PM) yes.. bios 17 the best fo now.. X2, FX and 64 logos show since bios 15... fries ! what board that u use ?? AN8 sli ?? Nope. Vanilla AN8. My Specs (Again):Venice 3000+ 2*512 Apacer RAM 2.5-4-4-8 ABIT AN8 Coolermaster 430W Power 80GB HDD Maxtor 16X DVD Drive Anything else? I tried to flash and reflash for the last 2 days. Found out, my setup is stable using 12 and 13. Don't have 14 and 15 to try with. With 16 and 17, problems arise. Most significant is the FanEQ settings in BIOS. Supposedly, in 12 and 13, in FanEQ2 page, we'll have OTES1, OTES2 and AUX. But in 16 and 17, right after flashing I can see AUX, OTES1, OTES2. But if I save the settings, it'll be AUX only left. The 2 OTES fans settings are gone. Now, I don't know what is happening. I'm beginning to suspect my processor and ram as the culprit. If there is someone who can lend me their processor and ram, then I think I can check which one is wrong. |
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QUOTE(aaron_lwm @ Sep 17 2005, 11:38 AM) Abit is good bro, Me gettin AN8-Sli fatality, OC wise stable because of UGuru sorry to beg a pardon, but on what basis that u decided to quote as such??? if by reading i'm sorry to say practically it is not...due the no fine tuning i can bet ya that overclocking will be a problems on such boards... first of u can really overclocked till the edge because of the unavailabilty to tweaks as much...so only max overclock can be achieved inside Windows only...this is not the kind of overclocking i and (maybe you) wants....the ability to be overclocked through bios then with juz a press of a button (power button) all the power u need are available right on the spot....unlike if u have to go to windows first then only up the HTT to achieve certain speed... QUOTE(wadieq @ Sep 17 2005, 01:41 PM) try flash back to bios 15 and reset ur bios.. itz never happend to me either An8 or An8 ultra but users with X2 and WD bugs cant use that bios am i right???QUOTE(irenic @ Sep 18 2005, 12:00 AM) is this board good & stable for amd x2 processor? irenic,as u you know...and u should know by now commonly nF4 939 boards are supporting X2...but the issue is not supports or not...either it is good or not...thats a diffrent story....u should browse around b4 u QUOTE(wadieq @ Sep 18 2005, 03:01 PM) yes.. bios 17 the best fo now.. X2, FX and 64 logos show since bios 15... fries ! what board that u use ?? AN8 sli ?? good for you 17 works...but mostly ppl will adore 16 and i also b4 i sold my board i was putting 16 as the bios... |
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abit cheap, pretty, nice led, 4 phase power, oc stable, nice uguru software, 100% Japanese capasitor, 1st board with softmenu oc technologies, 1st company using OTES design,
1st board using cooper chipset cooling, 1st 3rd EYE OC technologies (no others can) <-- more than enough and cheap too... new panel guru direct reset cmos from casing front side... audio max sound card off the board with nice red led... using digital optical sound output... (real optical) oc stable means use pc more than stay in front pc oc oc oc and crash.. Hardocp.... http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NzE3LDc= Once again we saw a DFI motherboard fail when it comes to long-term stress testing. By "long-term," we mean in excess of 24 hours. While most of the latest heavy hitters from the likes of ABIT, ASUS, and MSI will literally run error free for days under 100% load DFI LanParty UT nF4 SLI-D http://www.hexus.net/content/reviews/revie...mlld19JRD0xMDA5 You can see a three-phase power delivery circuit next ( Answer for those argue with me about 3 phase of DFI ) hope DFI can upgrade their board for more stability... maybe tommorow i'll buy... This post has been edited by cyberloner: Sep 19 2005, 01:09 PM Attached thumbnail(s) 
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QUOTE The Bottom Line as far as i can read...the above quotes it kudos to DFI... DFI has a great product in the DFI nF4 SLI-DR, but it is not without a few very small shortcomings. Those minor issues however will not impact most users that will walk away happy knowing they just purchased a solid SLI motherboard with the most hardware perks and prizes you are likely to find in one box. Hexus Quote QUOTE The ASUS is the board for the user that wants a bunch of features, stock performance and has no real desire to get his or her hands dirty. Comparing two of the diffrent worlds motherboard...i dun blame em...its their job...but WTH is Asus in this story...Its no no Abit story in there....The DFI for those that don't care about 10 USB2.0 ports (although you get them) and the like, rather they want to tweak the last frame per second out of their system, running as much out of spec as they can. I mentioned earlier than the ASUS stops around 270MHz dHTT for me, whereas the DFI will run to 340MHz before running out of stability. For the user that wants to crank up to around 300MHz with a memory clock to match, your choice is clear. This post has been edited by antonio_zth: Sep 19 2005, 02:27 PM |
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Sep 19 2005, 03:53 PM
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i think we shouldnt talk about DFI / Asus / MSI etc.. in this forum. Just talk about Abit ok. It's sick when people keep comparing this board with DFI. Esp in overclocking. Every overclockers on this earth know DFI is the best. But how many among them are only use their pc for overclocking?
Dont forget that DFI also have cold boot problem, 4 leds of death, etc.. If u never experience it, u will keep saying DFI is the best. I was the same, until that problem occured. It was so sucky coz i need up to 2hrs to switch on my pc. If u do browsing, quite a lot people experienced it.. and most of them decided to try other board like Abit or Asus. & dont forget that DFI is among the 1st mobo to have all those settings in bios. before this all of us use windows based software to tweak & oc more.. To make all DFI fan happy, once again i stress that DFI is the best board for overclocking.. No other board can get near DFI in it. but DFI is not the best in stability. However, let say if u must choose one problem for ur mobo, which one u prefer?.. Lost the otes fan setting or have difficulty to switch on ur pc every time u shut down it? My conclusion is all board have its pros n cons. Choose the best for u. Like me, this Abit isnt so great for my superb Sandy so that is one the reason i wanna sell the sandy and get the X2.. stimes i think to buy DFI again but when i remember back those 4 leds of death.. i feel phobia hahah QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Sep 19 2005, 10:46 AM) irenic, thats why my question was "is this board Good & Stable for amd64 x2?" as u you know...and u should know by now commonly nF4 939 boards are supporting X2...but the issue is not supports or not...either it is good or not...thats a diffrent story....u should browse around b4 u i did browse around and i can find both positive & negative results. It just not happen to Abit an8 but also to DFI mobo. I think if i not overclock this x2, abit mobo will run great .. what do u think? This post has been edited by irenic: Sep 19 2005, 03:53 PM |
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Sep 19 2005, 04:08 PM
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Sep 19 2005, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE(irenic @ Sep 19 2005, 03:53 PM) i think we shouldnt talk about DFI / Asus / MSI etc.. in this forum. Just talk about Abit ok. It's sick when people keep comparing this board with DFI. Esp in overclocking. Every overclockers on this earth know DFI is the best. But how many among them are only use their pc for overclocking? Dont forget that DFI also have cold boot problem, 4 leds of death, etc.. If u never experience it, u will keep saying DFI is the best. I was the same, until that problem occured. It was so sucky coz i need up to 2hrs to switch on my pc. If u do browsing, quite a lot people experienced it.. and most of them decided to try other board like Abit or Asus. & dont forget that DFI is among the 1st mobo to have all those settings in bios. before this all of us use windows based software to tweak & oc more.. To make all DFI fan happy, once again i stress that DFI is the best board for overclocking.. No other board can get near DFI in it. but DFI is not the best in stability. However, let say if u must choose one problem for ur mobo, which one u prefer?.. Lost the otes fan setting or have difficulty to switch on ur pc every time u shut down it? My conclusion is all board have its pros n cons. Choose the best for u. Like me, this Abit isnt so great for my superb Sandy so that is one the reason i wanna sell the sandy and get the X2.. stimes i think to buy DFI again but when i remember back those 4 leds of death.. i feel phobia hahah thats why my question was "is this board Good & Stable for amd64 x2?" i did browse around and i can find both positive & negative results. It just not happen to Abit an8 but also to DFI mobo. I think if i not overclock this x2, abit mobo will run great .. what do u think? I Dun Think....I Test It Myself.. Btw the issue regarding X2 is everywhere lah...not even DFI is perfect..but when i come to stability even the Intel OEM board is a rock...but when some party give a quote like: "Abit good in overclock, Abit very stable" now to me that sucks...just because u read somewhere doesnt mean it is true. Did u test the stuffs ur self..Remember alwiz that reviews are not 100% accurate.. Reviewers tend to be bias or paid to be. This is why i never read reviews and trash it directly to LYN like some ppl do... ok back to ur question ...to me if u already planned to buy Abit an8 go ahead...since ur not overclocking what...Juz like a two door beemer...buy it, enjoy it, brag about it, and in the end u Bring More Women ....Unlike a skyline, where u can get 700HP and blast the Beemer away but what for right????So get ur beemer ...what are you waiting for..??? ....I stick with my 700HP Skyline RB26 with twin 3450GT's.....Hahahhahaha BTW bape nak jual Sandy 3700+??? This post has been edited by antonio_zth: Sep 19 2005, 04:10 PM |
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Sep 19 2005, 04:56 PM
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QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Sep 19 2005, 04:09 PM) ok back to ur question i am using abit an8 sli ...to me if u already planned to buy Abit an8 go ahead...since ur not overclocking what...Juz like a two door beemer...buy it, enjoy it, brag about it, and in the end u Bring More Women ....Unlike a skyline, where u can get 700HP and blast the Beemer away but what for right????So get ur beemer ...what are you waiting for..??? ....I stick with my 700HP Skyline RB26 with twin 3450GT's.....Hahahhahaha BTW bape nak jual Sandy 3700+??? if u want to know the story, here it goes.. last time i was a very happy n proud owner of DFI lanparty SLI D. It was a great board, combined with my san diego + OCZ rev2 tccd, i can say it was really really rocks! then a few months later, somewhere in July, the cold boot problem started to occur. Thx god that there was so easy to seek for help with this board, since most of the top forums all over the world were discussing bout this board. I manage to overcome the problem whenever it occured. I was happy until the cold boot problem occured again but was more serious than usual. This time all the 4 leds were blinking. I browsed the XS forum and managed to find a way on how to solve the problem, called the 4 Led's of death.. I followed their suggestion but normally i can only boot my pc after an hour. stimes it took more than 1 hr. I started to feel sick.. Then one morning when i was in rush to finish my assignment, my pc (i stayed in hostel, so ol 24/7) quite laggy due to many applications in background. so i restarted it. But somehow i accidentally clicked on the shut down button. Then i cant get my pc on for almost one day The next day, i found myself in Alphamatic systems in puchong to claim a new board ( luckily DFI gives 1 to 1 warranty ) . back to my place, i manage to switch on my pc without any problem and then i live happily ever after.. opps it still not the end yet.. then at the evening, the problem occured again! I feel fed up so the next day i changed to a new board again n straight away put it on sale in garage sell ( i sold a new one, and not the one that has the 4 leds of death )Then i used my intel rig coz at that time i was so stupid to think that i can wait for crossfire board haha.. but after a week or two, i decided to buy this abit an8 series.. and since then i yet to miss my assignment anymore that is my story. Mixed experienced with a board named DFI lanparty SLI D Like old folks say, biar lambat asal selamat.. cant oc kaw kaw is ok, as long as i my pc wont have problem in such a critical time~ p/s - sorry for a long & boring essay. I'm not so good in writing This post has been edited by irenic: Sep 19 2005, 05:01 PM |
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QUOTE(irenic @ Sep 19 2005, 04:56 PM) -edited a nice story- well very kinda sad story...glad ur moving on quite nicely... but well...the moral of your story is no pain no gain... due to our lust for more power we alwiz tends to forget that there is no easy way...either we fall now or later...the same for computers....either we crash now or crash later it is part of the cycle...we cant have both...we have to compromise...hearing u telling about ur bad relations with the SLI-D gave me an idea that surely u didnt compromise....Juz imagine if u would run the same settings on a new mobo (whatever and not DFI) and the mobo didnt broke down or get burnt in 3 years time that surely will make u a happy man... I think i should post a quote in the overclockers united something like this: "did u think a 3000+ and an FX 57 were priced because of the speed or the ability" hahahaha.... ok now back to topic.... the AN8 will be compatible with the X2 via flashing new bios...and which bios issit i cant clearly remember...maybe 17 i guess...but irenic b4 u go buy straight away why not browse for the KN8....looks promising.... if u want the king of stability why not try Gigabyte for a change???? |
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Sep 19 2005, 07:04 PM
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QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Sep 19 2005, 06:34 PM) well very kinda sad story...glad ur moving on quite nicely... there is thing we can compromise n there is thing we cant.. When i decided to sell my DFI, i know i wont find any other great overclocking board like DFI. Then i choose abit due to no major problem with that board. I think that's a compromise. I lose speed for stability. I choose what is best for me, not for others. As a student who enjoys overclocking, but in the same time use the same pc for works n games, I need a very stable mobo with can do respectable clockspeed. This is what Abit manage to offers me. If u see my 3dmark records, and my highest bootable clockspeed for my sandy, i manage to break my own record set by DFI with this <quite crap in oc?> Abit Fatal1ty An8 SLI... but well...the moral of your story is no pain no gain... due to our lust for more power we alwiz tends to forget that there is no easy way...either we fall now or later...the same for computers....either we crash now or crash later it is part of the cycle...we cant have both...we have to compromise...hearing u telling about ur bad relations with the SLI-D gave me an idea that surely u didnt compromise....Juz imagine if u would run the same settings on a new mobo (whatever and not DFI) and the mobo didnt broke down or get burnt in 3 years time that surely will make u a happy man... I think i should post a quote in the overclockers united something like this: "did u think a 3000+ and an FX 57 were priced because of the speed or the ability" hahahaha.... ok now back to topic.... the AN8 will be compatible with the X2 via flashing new bios...and which bios issit i cant clearly remember...maybe 17 i guess...but irenic b4 u go buy straight away why not browse for the KN8....looks promising.... if u want the king of stability why not try Gigabyte for a change???? It's not just me, but everyone will be happy if the mobo never ever give them any single problem. Or u like to have problem ? and fyi, i never used my stuffs (except harddisk & psu) more than 6 months so i cant imagine to use a mobo for 3 yrs haha. I'm happy to change to new stuffs, coz i can start all over again.. learning sthing new everyday... i read in the internet and most of them are using bios 17.. looks ok with some minor problem.. Gigabyte? i need good stable board with quite a good oc ability. I think Abit has the balance between these two.. It would be great if DFI & Abit engineers can combine together to produce a new motherboard.. But it will never happen.. |
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QUOTE(irenic @ Sep 19 2005, 07:04 PM) there is thing we can compromise n there is thing we cant.. When i decided to sell my DFI, i know i wont find any other great overclocking board like DFI. Then i choose abit due to no major problem with that board. I think that's a compromise. I lose speed for stability. I choose what is best for me, not for others. As a student who enjoys overclocking, but in the same time use the same pc for works n games, I need a very stable mobo with can do respectable clockspeed. This is what Abit manage to offers me. If u see my 3dmark records, and my highest bootable clockspeed for my sandy, i manage to break my own record set by DFI with this <quite crap in oc?> Abit Fatal1ty An8 SLI... wahlaweehh...It's not just me, but everyone will be happy if the mobo never ever give them any single problem. Or u like to have problem ? and fyi, i never used my stuffs (except harddisk & psu) more than 6 months so i cant imagine to use a mobo for 3 yrs haha. I'm happy to change to new stuffs, coz i can start all over again.. learning sthing new everyday... i read in the internet and most of them are using bios 17.. looks ok with some minor problem.. Gigabyte? i need good stable board with quite a good oc ability. I think Abit has the balance between these two.. change hardware every six months.... one level i cant follow now... Gigabyte is ok...no big issues...slightly better than MSI i would say...but nevertherless no match for DFI (or even ABIT maybe? )QUOTE It would be great if DFI & Abit engineers can combine together to produce a new motherboard.. But it will never happen.. ehhehe...then we have nothing more to debate right???? |
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2nd attempt.. pic attached::
240htt, 1.4vcore (bios), 1:1, 4x ldt using bios 17. my 1st attempt was 2.4ghz @ 1.35vcore (bios) but the 2nd core failed after 2hrs 32mins..  This post has been edited by irenic: Sep 19 2005, 08:33 PM |
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Sep 19 2005, 08:40 PM
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Manchester new cpu?
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Sep 19 2005, 09:00 PM
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I think guys, let's stick back to the main topic. I know Antonio is a hardcore overclocker who will stop at nothing to get that extra pico second at superpi or getting that little more fraction of HTT. So, the DFI board must be a god-sent gift for him.
However, true to the topic of the thread, this is all about Abit board and how users of Abit Fatality could give and share the opinion based on their usage. Personally, I've not tried DFI for the very obvious reason that I am a cheap ******* who doesn't believe is spending double for that extra speed or tight timings that TCCD or TCC5 chips can achieve. Therefore, I am using a cheap KVR D43 from the days of socket 478. So far, this Abit board has been a great workhorse, no issues and is reasonably fast. For my primary usage which is gaming, I find that overclocking the rig to the max might not be such a good idea. I need stability when I am fragging someone; the last thing I want is a reboot during my gaming session of BF2. I'd rather spend some money on getting a better VGA and get high frame rates. I've come to notice that it doesn't make much practical gaming difference when I am running my A64 at 2.4ghz or 2.7ghz except during benchmarks; which aren't real games in itself. I also use this rig to surf the net to check forums and to learn more new things in the overclocking and computer world. I'm sure Irenic shares my sentiment. So, like what I said in my earlier thread; beauty lies in the eye of the beholder. Let's stop this topic about DFI is a better overclocking board as no one here denies that. Peace. |
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QUOTE(jarofclay @ Sep 19 2005, 09:00 PM) I think guys, let's stick back to the main topic. I know Antonio is a hardcore overclocker who will stop at nothing to get that extra pico second at superpi or getting that little more fraction of HTT. So, the DFI board must be a god-sent gift for him. However, true to the topic of the thread, this is all about Abit board and how users of Abit Fatality could give and share the opinion based on their usage. Personally, I've not tried DFI for the very obvious reason that I am a cheap ******* who doesn't believe is spending double for that extra speed or tight timings that TCCD or TCC5 chips can achieve. Therefore, I am using a cheap KVR D43 from the days of socket 478. So far, this Abit board has been a great workhorse, no issues and is reasonably fast. For my primary usage which is gaming, I find that overclocking the rig to the max might not be such a good idea. I need stability when I am fragging someone; the last thing I want is a reboot during my gaming session of BF2. I'd rather spend some money on getting a better VGA and get high frame rates. I've come to notice that it doesn't make much practical gaming difference when I am running my A64 at 2.4ghz or 2.7ghz except during benchmarks; which aren't real games in itself. I also use this rig to surf the net to check forums and to learn more new things in the overclocking and computer world. I'm sure Irenic shares my sentiment. So, like what I said in my earlier thread; beauty lies in the eye of the beholder. Let's stop this topic about DFI is a better overclocking board as no one here denies that. Peace. THE MASTER HAS SPOKEN I have no intention what so ever to bring down Abit to the ground. I also am no Diamond Flower International staff nor affliates....I'm just some guy which happends likes what i do. And no intention to develop the hatred towards Abit. Even last time while the NF-7 was out i even dun have the cash to buy my dream mobo. But that was then, this is now. Looking back aint bringing us no where, apart from receiving problematics failure which resulted our waste of time, energy or even cash.  Abit is one of respectable player in this business. Hell if i'd have the opportunity to work with them closely i'd packed my bag and straight away go. But the fact of the matter is that we are discussing about the abit Fatal1ty AN8 for AMD 64bit topic which i think a place where Abit Fatality owners such as you guys (or even me) talk and discuss about our problem regarding the board. But if you see clearly the Abit Forum which is i see is a mess. With no support and tons and tons of problems realy looks like Abit is not making a good job maintaining its reputation as a Company.. Back to topic.... As i was stressing out the Fatality boards has the pros and cons. I did came in here stroming about the greatness of DFI and that i appologies i it did make you Fatalities & Vanilla user offended. But i wanna ask you one question. What is it gives u the right to crash my statements? Just because you owned an Abit board. Didnt you notice i to owned the Fatality SLI not long ago. So i should have the rights right? And my comparison with the DFI is not of the prejudice feelings i had for the Fatality board or even Abit. I was telling everybody about the normal scenario of the board itself. Like DFI i also adore this board of its functions and pakages which is quite reasonable for a RM750 board. But when capabilities are concerned it just my two cents thinkin that this board should be sold even lower priced. I'm no Abit GURU and so do you...So lets talk and discuss rather than trying to bring down other companies boards as a fact of the matter is much better than what we are trying to standout for. Stop talking and show results braddar. |
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Sep 20 2005, 10:35 AM
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Not much results to show except that I am happy that my Winchester can prime stably at 10.5 x 250HTT @ 1T. Not much to boast but it's stable and reasonably fast.
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Sep 20 2005, 10:52 AM
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QUOTE(jarofclay @ Sep 20 2005, 10:35 AM) Not much results to show except that I am happy that my Winchester can prime stably at 10.5 x 250HTT @ 1T. Not much to boast but it's stable and reasonably fast. bro how come u run on 10.5 dividers???no problems or what so ever occur???? |
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Sep 20 2005, 11:01 AM
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No issues so far. What kind of problems do you anticipate?
QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Sep 20 2005, 10:52 AM) bro how come u run on 10.5 dividers???no problems or what so ever occur???? |
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Sep 20 2005, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE(jarofclay @ Sep 20 2005, 11:01 AM) No issues so far. What kind of problems do you anticipate? mostly the instability from the CPU itself...it will run either to the rams resulting in an unstable situation for the rams...and windows usually locks up...i am going far from 0.5 multipliers avoid it while i still can... |
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Sep 20 2005, 11:48 AM
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banyak gak orang lepak kat thread ni... lama tak check....
atonio.... bape skang harge AN8 ultra ko jual? aku gi kat ipoh ada tapi cam mahal lak.. minta no hp kau... kalau kau jual lagi.... kalau tak jual takpe la... aku lama tak ikut perkembangan ni.... |
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Sep 20 2005, 12:47 PM
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It's good and rock stable with 0.5 multipliers. I did some prime yesterday while watching Initial D. Nothing failed.
QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Sep 20 2005, 11:13 AM) mostly the instability from the CPU itself...it will run either to the rams resulting in an unstable situation for the rams...and windows usually locks up...i am going far from 0.5 multipliers avoid it while i still can... |
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QUOTE(tictac @ Sep 20 2005, 11:48 AM) banyak gak orang lepak kat thread ni... lama tak check.... uik...the Tic Tac master pandai cakap melayu...hihihihi....ingat kot orang indonesia pak!!... atonio.... bape skang harge AN8 ultra ko jual? aku gi kat ipoh ada tapi cam mahal lak.. minta no hp kau... kalau kau jual lagi.... kalau tak jual takpe la... aku lama tak ikut perkembangan ni.... bout price dah lama tak follow up on abit market...but if u wan i can check...specially for TicTac... QUOTE It's good and rock stable with 0.5 multipliers. I did some prime yesterday while watching Initial D. Nothing failed. hmmm...initial D QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Sep 20 2005, 11:13 AM) mostly the instability from the CPU itself...it will run either to the rams resulting in an unstable situation for the rams...and windows usually locks up...i am going far from 0.5 multipliers avoid it while i still can... car fan oso...yeah!!This post has been edited by antonio_zth: Sep 20 2005, 01:31 PM |
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Sep 20 2005, 01:59 PM
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i was also a DFI lanparty nf4 sli D user.. now using Abit fatality an8 sli & DFI lanparty 875pro B hehehe
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QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Sep 19 2005, 06:34 PM) but irenic b4 u go buy straight away why not browse for the KN8....looks promising.... You're faster on this. Hehehe... I can't find any shop in Lowyat selling KN8 Ultra yet. Only vanilla KN8. 7.1 sound, optical out, no Dual-OTES. Hopefully they add another one; No hassle and problems whatsoever. QUOTE(irenic @ Sep 19 2005, 07:04 PM) and fyi, i never used my stuffs (except harddisk & psu) more than 6 months Please contact me half a year later. I want you stuffs. Hehehe so i cant imagine to use a mobo for 3 yrs haha. I'm happy to change to new stuffs, coz i can start all over again.. learning sthing new everyday... QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Sep 20 2005, 09:41 AM) I did came in here stroming about the greatness of DFI and that i appologies i it did make you Fatalities & Vanilla user offended. None taken. This post has been edited by Fries: Sep 20 2005, 03:40 PM |
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QUOTE(Fries @ Sep 20 2005, 03:31 PM) You're faster on this. Hehehe... I can't find any shop in Lowyat selling KN8 Ultra yet. Only vanilla KN8. 8.1 sound, optical out, no Dual-OTES. Hopefully they add another one; No hassle and problems whatsoever. yups.. i also cant find it yet.. QUOTE Please contact me half a year later. I want you stuffs. Hehehe want cant... buy can la hehe ------------------------------------------------- anyway 1st weird thing regarding this mobo + x2. after installing windows, sp2, nforce driver, the x2 run normally since it is at default setting. But after installing ATi 5.8 driver, i need to change the ram command rate to 2T even at 400mhz. I thought it must be driver issue, so i uninstalled it and then i can use 1T again. Then i installed catalyst 5.6 driver and yet, still the same. So now i have to run my ram at 2T do u guys have any idea why this happen? thx~ |
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Sep 20 2005, 05:10 PM
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QUOTE(irenic @ Sep 20 2005, 03:38 PM) yups.. i also cant find it yet.. maybe u can try and install an earlier driver than 5.8??? see if anything changed...if not you may wanna try swapping GFX...want cant... buy can la hehe ------------------------------------------------- anyway 1st weird thing regarding this mobo + x2. after installing windows, sp2, nforce driver, the x2 run normally since it is at default setting. But after installing ATi 5.8 driver, i need to change the ram command rate to 2T even at 400mhz. I thought it must be driver issue, so i uninstalled it and then i can use 1T again. Then i installed catalyst 5.6 driver and yet, still the same. So now i have to run my ram at 2T do u guys have any idea why this happen? thx~ |
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Sep 20 2005, 10:21 PM
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AN8 - RM400
AN8 Ultra - RM460 .. if u r in ipoh.. contact me |
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Sep 20 2005, 10:28 PM
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just simple play around with my rig.. wat the heck ?? my KVR can reach till 300FSB
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Sep 21 2005, 05:34 AM
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QUOTE(wadieq @ Sep 20 2005, 10:28 PM) just simple play around with my rig.. wat the heck ?? my KVR can reach till 300FSB |
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Sep 21 2005, 06:51 AM
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Elite
2,520 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Sibu
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QUOTE(wadieq @ Sep 20 2005, 10:21 PM) AN8 - RM400 AN8 Ultra - RM460 .. if u r in ipoh.. contact me .... ok gak harga tu... mana kau amik?Lagi satu ingat nak cari LCD screen yang 15inch... agak2 yg paling murah dan ok brand apa yek? Aku skang kat ipoh... kat Taman Meru... |
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Sep 21 2005, 07:15 AM
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juz send my ABIT AN8 ULTRA for checking...
problem is alwiz hang...dunno y...using A64 venice 3000+ c-zone technician saying tat is mobo problem and the mobo stop producing oredi..sigh... and they r going to replace it i think with ABIT K8N ULTRA but hav to wait coz that 1 not out yet...izzit worth the wait??? or izzit betta replaced it with a DFI Infinity NF4 Ultra??? which is same price w/ AN8 ULTRA which to choose?? using KVR...so betta wait??? hope can help This post has been edited by hng: Sep 21 2005, 07:45 AM |
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Sep 21 2005, 07:16 AM
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seems like the KN8 ULTRA doesnt hav the cool OTES cooling solution like the 1 in AN8 wor....
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Sep 21 2005, 07:55 AM
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ey im OCing with my AN8, but I need a good temp monitoring software... I dont like speedfan's interface.. I want something like hardware sensors monitor but it's not free...
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Sep 21 2005, 09:14 AM
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QUOTE(hng @ Sep 21 2005, 07:15 AM) juz send my ABIT AN8 ULTRA for checking... Sounds almost like my problem. Had that experience also.problem is alwiz hang...dunno y...using A64 venice 3000+ c-zone technician saying tat is mobo problem and the mobo stop producing oredi..sigh... and they r going to replace it i think with ABIT K8N ULTRA but hav to wait coz that 1 not out yet...izzit worth the wait??? or izzit betta replaced it with a DFI Infinity NF4 Ultra??? which is same price w/ AN8 ULTRA which to choose?? using KVR...so betta wait??? hope can help QUOTE(hng @ Sep 21 2005, 07:16 AM) seems like the KN8 ULTRA doesnt hav the cool OTES cooling solution like the 1 in AN8 wor.... Yup. Very true. But it comes with 7.1 audio whereas AN8 Ultra comes with 5.1 only. But, do you really need it? Same goes to the OTES fan. I'm also thinking of getting KN8, just waiting for the Ultra version. Right now the vanilla costs around RM 460-500 in Lowyat. Cheaper than AN8. |
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Sep 21 2005, 10:40 AM
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time aku gi kat ipoh ada gak nampak board ABIT KN8... cam sama jek ngan AN8 ultra... cuma takde otes jek & uguru... dia nya voltage controller pun lain... mirip2 cam voltage controller socket A AN7... so aku rasa dia nya vdimm tak sampai 3.4v le cam an8.... tapi at least aku rasa problem2 yang berkenaan dgn uguru dapat disisihkan.. karena masalah dengan firmware uguru ni telah ada sejak boar an7... random freezing... tu la pasal nf7s lebih better dr an7 n lebih solid... sebab dia takde firmware uguru tu... menurut pendapat aku cam tu la...
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Sep 21 2005, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE(tictac @ Sep 21 2005, 10:40 AM) time aku gi kat ipoh ada gak nampak board ABIT KN8... cam sama jek ngan AN8 ultra... cuma takde otes jek & uguru... dia nya voltage controller pun lain... mirip2 cam voltage controller socket A AN7... so aku rasa dia nya vdimm tak sampai 3.4v le cam an8.... tapi at least aku rasa problem2 yang berkenaan dgn uguru dapat disisihkan.. karena masalah dengan firmware uguru ni telah ada sejak boar an7... random freezing... tu la pasal nf7s lebih better dr an7 n lebih solid... sebab dia takde firmware uguru tu... menurut pendapat aku cam tu la... Hopefully it'll be better compare to AN8 Ultra. Might want to try this board later. AN8 is better looking because of its OTES and LEDs, but what's the point?I hardly spin my OTES fan after all.Thinking of selling the board and change to KN8 Ultra now. |
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Sep 21 2005, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE(Fries @ Sep 21 2005, 09:14 AM) Sounds almost like my problem. Had that experience also. wah...even a KN8 vanilla also tat expensive??coz AN8 Ultra RM460 the time i bought it..Yup. Very true. But it comes with 7.1 audio whereas AN8 Ultra comes with 5.1 only. But, do you really need it? Same goes to the OTES fan. I'm also thinking of getting KN8, just waiting for the Ultra version. Right now the vanilla costs around RM 460-500 in Lowyat. Cheaper than AN8. so wat do u think?waiting for KN8 Ultra or change to DFI Infinity betta?? |
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Sep 21 2005, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE(hng @ Sep 21 2005, 02:36 PM) wah...even a KN8 vanilla also tat expensive??coz AN8 Ultra RM460 the time i bought it.. Err... Typo Alert!!! So Sorry.so wat do u think?waiting for KN8 Ultra or change to DFI Infinity betta?? It's actually costs a hundred less. Ranging from RM350-400. Hehehe. |
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Sep 22 2005, 12:37 AM
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AN8 Ultra is still there....
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Sep 22 2005, 03:54 PM
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aiyark.. why so many problem with AN8 ultra ?? mine very2 ok.. tictac.. aku ada kat utp skarang..... kalau berminat PM aku..
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Sep 22 2005, 03:59 PM
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AN8 ultra max Vdimm is 3.6?
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Sep 22 2005, 05:33 PM
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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Sep 22 2005, 12:37 AM) AN8 Ultra is still there.... are u sure?coz c-zone telling me tat no more stock n not coming out...going to replace by KN8 i think... |
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Sep 22 2005, 11:50 PM
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hell yea
AN8 Ultra got few box here =X |
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Sep 22 2005, 11:52 PM
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QUOTE(xcrue @ Sep 22 2005, 03:59 PM) AN8 ultra max Vdimm is 3.6? When it launch said and show 3.55 vdimmnew bios now is 3.4 vdimm .... |
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Sep 23 2005, 01:22 AM
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KN8 use what chipset ar ?? Uli ??
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Sep 23 2005, 01:22 AM
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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Sep 22 2005, 11:52 PM) When it launch said and show 3.55 vdimm Actually BIOS 13 and 14 shows up to 3.55Vdimm. The latest BIOS 17 now shows up to 3.4V only.new bios now is 3.4 vdimm .... I'm talking with Abit to get a new BIOS and hopefully they will iron out the 1T and Venice issue with their AN8 mobos. Also, anyone tried setting the 3.4V and above while running Memtest? I did and the system automatically shutsdown. |
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Sep 23 2005, 07:36 AM
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QUOTE(jAkUn @ Sep 23 2005, 01:22 AM) KN8 use what chipset ar ?? Uli ?? NF4 4x |
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Sep 23 2005, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE(jAkUn @ Sep 23 2005, 01:22 AM) KN8 use what chipset ar ?? Uli ?? nforce 4 ... same as AN8 |
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Sep 24 2005, 01:26 AM
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Here's my highest record with AN8-SLI moterboard.
 *Click to enlarge Spec: Winne 3000+ - Abit AN8-SLI (BIOS 17) - Corsair 3200XL 2x256MB TCCD (2.7V) - GeForce 6600GT - Air Cooling This mobo is pretty good and pushed my Corsair PC3200XL to its limits. However, this is only possible with 2x256MB modules as 2x512MB will be almost impossible to do such speeds with the current BIOS. Also note that the RAM only required 2.7V to 2.8V to run such high speeds. Btw, CPU:RAM was 1:1 at that speed. |
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Sep 27 2005, 07:14 PM
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QUOTE(pcmoddingmy @ Sep 24 2005, 01:26 AM) Here's my highest record with AN8-SLI moterboard. waaa... nice record with stok vcore *Click to enlarge Spec: Winne 3000+ - Abit AN8-SLI (BIOS 17) - Corsair 3200XL 2x256MB TCCD (2.7V) - GeForce 6600GT - Air Cooling This mobo is pretty good and pushed my Corsair PC3200XL to its limits. However, this is only possible with 2x256MB modules as 2x512MB will be almost impossible to do such speeds with the current BIOS. Also note that the RAM only required 2.7V to 2.8V to run such high speeds. Btw, CPU:RAM was 1:1 at that speed. |
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Sep 27 2005, 10:23 PM
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QUOTE(wadieq @ Sep 27 2005, 07:14 PM) waaa... nice record with stok vcore LOL! Its actually not stock Vcore. I set to about 1.6V. The uGuru seems to a bit crappy on this mobo. Anyways, my AN8-SLI just died! Looks like I have to RMA it |
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Sep 28 2005, 06:41 AM
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2,520 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Sibu
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ya... i think i better wait for new Abit board... they said its on its way next month...
ABIT AT8 Crossfire |
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Sep 28 2005, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE(pcmoddingmy @ Sep 27 2005, 10:23 PM) LOL! Its actually not stock Vcore. I set to about 1.6V. huh???sorry to hear that bro...how come the mobo died...exceeding 1.6v on chipset???The uGuru seems to a bit crappy on this mobo. Anyways, my AN8-SLI just died! Looks like I have to RMA it btw the item i'm supposed to email u about i still unable to do it...but i will try my best to do it in a couple of days time...File`ing problem...so many receipts...hiuhihihi |
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Sep 28 2005, 10:58 AM
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Elite
2,520 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Sibu
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Abit AT8 Cross-Fire
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Sep 28 2005, 07:37 PM
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Official Released bios 18 for AN8 Family
OTES dissapear problem with Fatal1ty AN8 SLI Fix know Fatal1ty SLI otes missing and fix system problem with X-FI sound card... 1. Enhanced some VGA cards compatibility. 2. Update nVIDIA RAID BIOS to V4.8 3. Enhanced DRAM compatibility. 4. BIOS compiled date: 09/27/2005 http://cyguru.com/bios/an818.zip This post has been edited by cyberloner: Oct 20 2005, 10:29 PM |
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Sep 28 2005, 07:50 PM
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QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Sep 28 2005, 10:28 AM) huh???sorry to hear that bro...how come the mobo died...exceeding 1.6v on chipset??? Nah... not because of the chipset V.btw the item i'm supposed to email u about i still unable to do it...but i will try my best to do it in a couple of days time...File`ing problem...so many receipts...hiuhihihi The mobo auto shutdown all the time and it decided not to wake up anymore |
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Sep 29 2005, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE(pcmoddingmy @ Sep 28 2005, 07:50 PM) Nah... not because of the chipset V. Same case, same behaviour, just different way of explanation. The mobo auto shutdown all the time and it decided not to wake up anymore |
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Sep 30 2005, 11:03 PM
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dude, I seriously think that an Asus A8N-E Premium would be better or the DFI Lanparty NF4-D, definitely a better choice
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Sep 30 2005, 11:26 PM
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QUOTE(tictac @ Sep 28 2005, 10:58 AM) Abit AT8 Cross-Fire nice board .. but i like it better with a bigger space for the graphics card..and maybe some activecooling for at least the chipset? |
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Oct 1 2005, 12:49 AM
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Or perhaps they could Q-OTES the Radeon chipset and maybe link it to the PWM heatsink.
I'm sure Asus will come out with a kickass CrossFire mobo with linked SB, NB and PWM heatsink. Linked as in heatpipes linking all there heatsinks. Check out their latest A8N32-SLI Deluxe 16x SLI mobo with linked heatpipes.  |
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Oct 1 2005, 01:00 AM
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imo the chipset still should be actively cooled..
it gets pretty hot |
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Oct 1 2005, 07:17 AM
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QUOTE(pcmoddingmy @ Oct 1 2005, 12:49 AM) Or perhaps they could Q-OTES the Radeon chipset and maybe link it to the PWM heatsink. You are right... as shown on ABIT AT8 Picture i post on previous page.The ABIT Crossfire board... its Ati NorthBridge heatsink link to PWM heatsink... with L Shape Heatpipe... What Makes ABIT AT8 Crossfire difference from other brand.... its the SouthBridge.... ABIT go with ULi 1575 - Cheaper and Cost Effective SouthBridge - Links to ATI Crossfire NorthBridge via 4 PCI Express Lane..... working at 1Gbps  - Integrated SATA 2 - Better USB 2.0 Throughput compared to ATI SB450/400 |
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Oct 1 2005, 08:20 AM
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one thing about abit is that they tend to squeeze a lot on their board, and leaving the ports and odd places
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Oct 1 2005, 11:42 AM
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noob question.. what is Uli chipset ?? izzit stable ?? i hav read in someware on net that this chipset has one version that accept either pci-e or agp... izzit true ??
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Oct 1 2005, 12:07 PM
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ULi formerly known as ALi chipset... U should had heard it during P3 days...
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Oct 1 2005, 04:31 PM
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@kev_neville
agreed with u, now ULi is the new name, ALi chipsets are the old names, I still have a mobo with ALi chipset |
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Oct 1 2005, 04:33 PM
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ALi pulak ?? what i know only via, ati, nvidia, and sis .. realy noob about this
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Oct 1 2005, 04:44 PM
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Normally, if you started your computers way back in the Pentium 133MHz onwards, you would have heard of ALi chipsets. It is part of Acer last time and most of the time, ALi chipsets are items that you should avoid at all costs. It was highly unstable and most of the times, you get hangs with those machines.
At the end, I stayed with Intel chipsets for stability such as Asus P2B mobo, in which it is so stable I never had to reformat my Win98 machine for two years!! Yes, at that time, Intel chipsets were the most dominant in terms of stability and performance. Nothing from AMD nor Cyrix could come close. How the world has turned around nowadays. Anyway, it seems that some motherboards incorporate ULI chipsets as they are very feature rich and quite stable nowadays. We'll get to know more of it when more ppl in LYN buys their Crossfire boards with ULI southbridges. |
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Oct 1 2005, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE(jarofclay @ Oct 1 2005, 04:44 PM) Normally, if you started your computers way back in the Pentium 133MHz onwards, you would have heard of ALi chipsets. It is part of Acer last time and most of the time, ALi chipsets are items that you should avoid at all costs. It was highly unstable and most of the times, you get hangs with those machines. OIC... thank for ur info.. At the end, I stayed with Intel chipsets for stability such as Asus P2B mobo, in which it is so stable I never had to reformat my Win98 machine for two years!! Yes, at that time, Intel chipsets were the most dominant in terms of stability and performance. Nothing from AMD nor Cyrix could come close. How the world has turned around nowadays. Anyway, it seems that some motherboards incorporate ULI chipsets as they are very feature rich and quite stable nowadays. We'll get to know more of it when more ppl in LYN buys their Crossfire boards with ULI southbridges. |
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Oct 1 2005, 05:25 PM
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QUOTE(tictac @ Oct 1 2005, 07:17 AM) You are right... as shown on ABIT AT8 Picture i post on previous page. hmm i thought ATI insisted that all boards use their SB?The ABIT Crossfire board... its Ati NorthBridge heatsink link to PWM heatsink... with L Shape Heatpipe... What Makes ABIT AT8 Crossfire difference from other brand.... its the SouthBridge.... ABIT go with ULi 1575 - Cheaper and Cost Effective SouthBridge - Links to ATI Crossfire NorthBridge via 4 PCI Express Lane..... working at 1Gbps - Integrated SATA 2 - Better USB 2.0 Throughput compared to ATI SB450/400 anyway looking @ the design they went a different direction than the ATI reference design.. most probably because of uGuru as well TBH i prefer the reference design.. we'll see which is better when both products are on the market @ tictac.. any info on bios options? |
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Oct 1 2005, 10:03 PM
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I think no judments should be made until all the Crossfire boards are tested by reliable sources, but we still have the right to comment, and dun flame each another
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Oct 2 2005, 07:19 AM
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QUOTE(wadieq @ Oct 1 2005, 11:42 AM) noob question.. what is Uli chipset ?? izzit stable ?? i hav read in someware on net that this chipset has one version that accept either pci-e or agp... izzit true ?? ada lagi satu chipset ULi.... Uli 1695 (northbridge)... yang best dgn chip ni sebab dia....- support 2 x 8lane PCI Express lane jadi setaraf dengan northbridge crossfire.... ULi pun dah cakap kalau Chipset dia yg 1695 ni bley support crossfire.... cuma tunggu lampu hijau dari ATI jek... sebab driver crossfire ATI yg buat... - pastu dia connect ke bridge lain(southbridge) dengan teknologi Hypertransport juga 16bit downlink & 16bit up kalau x salah sama cepat dengan dia proses data ke main processor 16bit up & 16bit down  Kalau M1695 ni dia Pair ngan M1567 M1567 ni support AGP8x... so ni le Kombinasi chipset pertama yang bley pakai 3 vga sekali gus... 1 x 8lane pci express 1 x 8lane pci express 1 x AGP 8x  Aku ada gak kasi suggestion kat Abit ttg board ULi 1695 ni... tapi diaorang cam tunggu dan liat jek...sbb chipset baru... tak bape org tau lagi... lagi pun Southbridge yg support hyper transport diaorang belum matang lagi... tunggu generasi seterusnya yang akan integrated SATA 2.... baru kita main ULi1695 Rasanya dah ada review dah ref board ULi 1695... kick HTT in no time Babyelf... No info regarding AT8 bios... yup it is using ULi 1575 southbridge |
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Oct 2 2005, 07:36 AM
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Wadieq ni le prototype ULi 1695 aku... tapi ada kesalahan besar kat aku wat ni... ada ke aku link Nortbridge dia ke southbridge dia pakai 1575.... sedangkan Northbridge dia leh support Hypertransport ... langsung kena reject.... tak sempat nak revised balik
QUOTE Overclocking Option Vcore Option : Default voltage up to 2.0V (at 0.025v increasement) DDR Voltage : 2.50V up to 4.00V (at 0.05V increasement) DDR VTT : 1.25V up to 2.00V (at 0.05V increasement) HT/LDT Voltage : 1.20V up to 1.50V (at 0.10V increasement) HTT : 200MHz - 500MHz Memory Timing Option Dram Timing Low : Function#2 Offset#88h ; CAS Latency ; Row Cycle Time ; Row Refresh Cycle Time ; RAS to CAS Delay ; RAS to RAS Delay ; Min Ras Active Time ; Row Precharge Time ; Write Recovery time Dram Timing High : Function#2 Offset#8Ch ; Write to read delay ; Read to write Delay ; Refresh rate ; Write CAS Latency Dram Configuration low : Function#2 Offset#90h ; Dimm Drive Strength ; Read/Write Qued Bypass ; Bypass Max Dram Configuration high : Function#2 Offset#94h ; Maximum Async Latency ; Read Preamble ; Idle Cycle Limit ; Dynamic idle cycle counter enable ; 2 additional Memory dividers [150MHz/DDR300] & [183MHz/DDR366] Dram Delay Line Register : Function#2 Offset#98h ; DQS Slew Value ; DQS Slew Control Audio (7.1 Channel 24bit High Definition) ; Add on PCI card ; Audio Chip : VIA Vinyl Envy 24HT ; DAC : Wolfson WM8770 24bit 192khz codec with an 8 channel DAC and 2 channel ADC inside ; Caps : Rubycon / Sanyo Oscon SouthBridge : ULi 1575 (PCI Express 4x connection to NorthBridge) <---big mistake... my bad ; 4 x Serial ATA II 3Gb/s (with NCQ Support) ; 2 x ATA-133 with RAID 1, 0, 0+1, 5 , JBOD support ; 8 x USB 2.0 ; 1/10/100 Mbps Fast Ethernet  |
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Oct 2 2005, 01:50 PM
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I've read that the ATI SB has some bugs already and some manufacturers find better stability using ULI SB. However, I'm not sure if ATI will allow manufacturers using ULI NB to make CrossFire boards as I doubt ATI will give Crossfire certification to the mobo that uses only ULI chipsets.
Anywayss, I think we better start a new thread for ABIT CrossFire discussion. P/S: Tictac, your prototype looks great but remember that R520 is a freaking huge & long graphics card. Installing a R520 on the 2nd PCI-E slot will block the SATA and USB headers. And its a very bad location for the Floppy connector. I also think if the heatpipe will operate properly as the heatpipe has to be slightly longer to operate efficiently. |
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Oct 7 2005, 11:20 PM
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QUOTE(tictac @ Oct 2 2005, 07:19 AM) ada lagi satu chipset ULi.... Uli 1695 (northbridge)... yang best dgn chip ni sebab dia.... - support 2 x 8lane PCI Express lane jadi setaraf dengan northbridge crossfire.... ULi pun dah cakap kalau Chipset dia yg 1695 ni bley support crossfire.... cuma tunggu lampu hijau dari ATI jek... sebab driver crossfire ATI yg buat... - pastu dia connect ke bridge lain(southbridge) dengan teknologi Hypertransport juga 16bit downlink & 16bit up kalau x salah sama cepat dengan dia proses data ke main processor 16bit up & 16bit down Kalau M1695 ni dia Pair ngan M1567 M1567 ni support AGP8x... so ni le Kombinasi chipset pertama yang bley pakai 3 vga sekali gus... 1 x 8lane pci express 1 x 8lane pci express 1 x AGP 8x Aku ada gak kasi suggestion kat Abit ttg board ULi 1695 ni... tapi diaorang cam tunggu dan liat jek...sbb chipset baru... tak bape org tau lagi... lagi pun Southbridge yg support hyper transport diaorang belum matang lagi... tunggu generasi seterusnya yang akan integrated SATA 2.... baru kita main ULi1695 Rasanya dah ada review dah ref board ULi 1695... kick HTT in no time Babyelf... No info regarding AT8 bios... yup it is using ULi 1575 southbridge QUOTE(tictac @ Oct 2 2005, 07:36 AM) Wadieq ni le prototype ULi 1695 aku... tapi ada kesalahan besar kat aku wat ni... ada ke aku link Nortbridge dia ke southbridge dia pakai 1575.... sedangkan Northbridge dia leh support Hypertransport ... langsung kena reject.... tak sempat nak revised balik lama x masuk dah byk rupanya... thank for ur info tictac.. oh ya.. now i hav one new abit AN8 ultra with me.. if u interest .. u i can sold it to u.. *anyone hav try new abit an8 bios ?? just share here |
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Oct 8 2005, 04:27 PM
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anyone can suggest the timing , multiplier and htt for my fatal1ty a8n sli and amd athlon 64 3200+ venice ... i'm try overclock the max is 2250mhz... anyone can help me...
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Oct 8 2005, 06:17 PM
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i was maxed out at 240* 10 with 1:1.2 divider giving 200Mhz ram speed...
I used the X2 3800... amazingly, I managed to go up to 2.70 Ghz - 270*10, 225mhz ram speed on my new ASUS Premium board... same chips, same rams, different boards... it could certainly be the board |
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Oct 8 2005, 06:39 PM
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Not sure why you only maxed out at 240 as I managed to get 253 * 10.5 on this board.
Anyway, on the cpu end, that's quite a gem you have there. What voltage you engaged to get 2.8ghz and is it watercooled? QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Oct 8 2005, 06:17 PM) i was maxed out at 240* 10 with 1:1.2 divider giving 200Mhz ram speed... I used the X2 3800... amazingly, I managed to go up to 2.70 Ghz - 270*10, 225mhz ram speed on my new ASUS Premium board... same chips, same rams, different boards... it could certainly be the board |
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Oct 8 2005, 07:59 PM
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jarofclay can u show how to setting the dram timing... at bios.... and the multiplier for cpu??? when i reach ti 230x10 my pc will restart.. i'm icing use OC guru..... anyway u can give ur suggestion or way to solve this prob..
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Oct 8 2005, 08:12 PM
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comgeek85: Here's some 325MHz HTT action for you.....
AN8-SLI BIOS17 3000+ WinChester Corsair 3200XL ST65ZF 6600GT This post has been edited by pcmoddingmy: Oct 8 2005, 08:14 PM |
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Oct 8 2005, 09:10 PM
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@jarofclay
urs is the AN8 Fatality, she is using AN8-SLi fatality, there is a difference @wild_card_my I agree with you, I think is the board, asus boards seem to be more promising nowadays, stable on OC |
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Oct 8 2005, 10:43 PM
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ermm i dont know why when i increase the HTT , my pc will restart... hurmm i dont know how to do....
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Oct 9 2005, 01:34 AM
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Perhaps I wasn't that precise in my sig... I am running SLI as well. It's the same board.
QUOTE(aaron_lwm @ Oct 8 2005, 09:10 PM) @jarofclay urs is the AN8 Fatality, she is using AN8-SLi fatality, there is a difference @wild_card_my I agree with you, I think is the board, asus boards seem to be more promising nowadays, stable on OC |
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Oct 9 2005, 01:40 AM
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You need to check on your HTT multiplier as well. Normally, HTT works below 1GHz. So if you absolutely need to raise HTT, then lower the multiplier. So far, the best and stable for me is 4x 250HTT (due to my system RAM bottleneck)
QUOTE(comgeek85 @ Oct 8 2005, 10:43 PM) ermm i dont know why when i increase the HTT , my pc will restart... hurmm i dont know how to do.... |
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Oct 9 2005, 04:17 AM
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QUOTE(jarofclay @ Oct 8 2005, 06:39 PM) Anyway, on the cpu end, that's quite a gem you have there. What voltage you engaged to get 2.8ghz and is it watercooled? Well, I set the voltage to 1.475V but in windows it is reported as 1.500V, and it is only cooled by VENUS 12, I use lowest fan speed most of the time.And yeah, i think my CPU is actually meant to be labelled as the X2 4600 (2.4Ghz) as I managed to get it to run at 2.4Ghz @ 1.35V @ Prime stable SuperPI stable and everythingelse stable |
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Oct 9 2005, 12:08 PM
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If you're selling, let me know. I am searching for a good dual core too on my quest to build a better machine. However, as I know, the temps in US are pretty low now, so that must've helped as well.
QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Oct 9 2005, 04:17 AM) Well, I set the voltage to 1.475V but in windows it is reported as 1.500V, and it is only cooled by VENUS 12, I use lowest fan speed most of the time. And yeah, i think my CPU is actually meant to be labelled as the X2 4600 (2.4Ghz) as I managed to get it to run at 2.4Ghz @ 1.35V @ Prime stable SuperPI stable and everythingelse stable |
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Oct 9 2005, 08:37 PM
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@jarofclay
well, sorry for my noobness....seems to be a good board then, but stated...many factors will affect the OC @wild_card_my well. now ur using the A8N-SLi Premium....do u feel its better?? |
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Oct 10 2005, 01:33 AM
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QUOTE(jarofclay @ Oct 9 2005, 12:08 PM) If you're selling, let me know. I am searching for a good dual core too on my quest to build a better machine. However, as I know, the temps in US are pretty low now, so that must've helped as well. Yeah, sure... and the method of postage will be FedEX international which will cost at least RM100 ya? I tell you what, since AMD was rushing when they realeased the X2 3800, most probably (this is a hypothesis) most of the X2 3800s were to be rated higher... so buy now rather than later.and yeah, the temps are low, my legs are freezin cold here... @aaron_lwm I would say it is soo much better than the Fatal1ty... havent had any problem and crashes when the OC setup is certified as stable.. unlike the former mobo, crashes are random... hate that... |
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Oct 10 2005, 10:21 AM
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Yeah, I can attest to that. This Abit board is great in terms of features that are geared to gamers and overclockers. I like the front cmos reset the most.
The board does have it's fair shares of occasional reboot. I am not sure it is my chip or the board; whenever I turn up the vcore to 1.6V nowadays, even if the temps are mid 40s, the whole system just shuts down. Luckily it didn't have the 4 leds of death symptom but it does hang on me. What about the rest? Do you have any similar experiences? |
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Oct 10 2005, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE(pcmoddingmy @ Oct 8 2005, 08:12 PM) comgeek85: Here's some 325MHz HTT action for you..... where did you get that type of system software?AN8-SLI BIOS17 3000+ WinChester Corsair 3200XL ST65ZF 6600GT |
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Oct 10 2005, 05:21 PM
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QUOTE(mhchai45 @ Oct 10 2005, 10:28 AM) where did you get that type of system software? CPU-Z (http://www.cpuid.org/cpuz.php)A64 Tweaker (http://www.falconfly-central.de/downloads/A64Tweaker_V0.6beta.zip) ClockGen (http://www.cpuid.com/clockgen.php) Super PI (http://superpi.radeonx.com/super_pi_mod-1.4.zip) Have fun..... |
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Oct 12 2005, 12:02 AM
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The Abit Fatality SLi is sold out in LYP at the moment. Stocks are not expected to arrive anytime soon. So guys, congrats on getting your hands on what is now a extremely hard to find mobo...
If anyone knows a retailer that still has stock, please let me know. TIA. |
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Oct 12 2005, 03:41 AM
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QUOTE(MacDaNife @ Oct 12 2005, 12:02 AM) The Abit Fatality SLi is sold out in LYP at the moment. Stocks are not expected to arrive anytime soon. So guys, congrats on getting your hands on what is now a extremely hard to find mobo... Have you tried ScanArt?If anyone knows a retailer that still has stock, please let me know. TIA. |
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Oct 12 2005, 05:21 AM
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QUOTE(pcmoddingmy @ Oct 12 2005, 03:41 AM) Have you tried ScanArt? Yep, they're the ones that told me that it's out of stock and that they are not bringing it in for the forseeable future... |
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Oct 12 2005, 07:46 AM
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@Macdanife
If I'm not mistaken, ScanArt does not hold much stock for Abit Mobo's, coz they dun sell easily, even last time, my Ai7 I had to wait for 1 month plus to get it, until I canceled the order.....Scan Art says that they dun hold much stock, because many people dun wanna use Abit nowadays |
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Oct 12 2005, 09:04 AM
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I guess it's DFI then...
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Oct 12 2005, 02:31 PM
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DFI are for hardcores... Abit users are more towards the gentler side of computer users.
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Oct 12 2005, 06:48 PM
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QUOTE(MacDaNife @ Oct 12 2005, 09:04 AM) I guess it's DFI then... Maybe you can go for AN8-SLI. Its the same as Fatal1ty AN8-SLI minus the goodies. The AN8-SLI goes for about RM600 but the Fatal1ty is RM150 extra...Heck, even both mobos uses same BIOS and drivers. The AN8-SLI ships Fatal1ty drivers... |
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Oct 12 2005, 07:12 PM
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@pcmoddingmy
yup, I agree with you, AN8-SLi is also a good board. Basically, both mobo's are the same, fatality ships with some extras like Ram Cooler, Fan Q-Otes instead of the heat pipe and some goodies, something like the Asus A8N-SLi deluxe and premium version, differences |
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Oct 12 2005, 08:04 PM
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@aaron_lwm
it's wierd that ABIT and ASUS take oposite aproach.. as for ABIT, the cheaper version of the AN8-SLi uses heatpipe to cool the birdge chip, while the Fatal1ty, which is essentially the same board with bells and whistles uses QTES fan... ASUS, on the other hand reserves the heatpipe for the deluxe and premium boards as opposed to their SLi offering... what do you think about this? p/s having held both higher end boards (Fatal1ty and Premium), i feel so special.. |
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Oct 12 2005, 09:05 PM
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@wild_card_my
yeah, I do notice that also, I was also wondering why???? I'm still trying to figure that out myself, but ur very fortunate to be able to hold both boards before.....abit's boards are not that bad also, can still consider them... |
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Oct 12 2005, 09:08 PM
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Erm, there are no RAM cooler on the fatality sli. However, what it has, and I stress again, is the front panel which is really cool for gamers and overclockers. The front reset bios option is really cool plus you could chose preset overclocks using just the front panel. Of course, the front firewire and USB2.0 ports enables me to unlock all 10 USB2.0 ports properly.
I did try to buy the Asus Premium but at that time, it was all sold out in CZone and other shops and this Fatality is one of the very last ones that I found at ATE computers. Anyway, I might get the Asus Premium later if I am bored with this board already. QUOTE(aaron_lwm @ Oct 12 2005, 07:12 PM) @pcmoddingmy yup, I agree with you, AN8-SLi is also a good board. Basically, both mobo's are the same, fatality ships with some extras like Ram Cooler, Fan Q-Otes instead of the heat pipe and some goodies, something like the Asus A8N-SLi deluxe and premium version, differences Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Oct 12 2005, 09:24 PM
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QUOTE(pcmoddingmy @ Oct 12 2005, 06:48 PM) Maybe you can go for AN8-SLI. Its the same as Fatal1ty AN8-SLI minus the goodies. The AN8-SLI goes for about RM600 but the Fatal1ty is RM150 extra... Actually (other than performance in which in benchies the board rates comparably to DFI NF4 SLi) there are two reasons why I wanted the Fatality....Heck, even both mobos uses same BIOS and drivers. The AN8-SLI ships Fatal1ty drivers... 1. The Front Panel breakout box. This is to simplify cable routing in my G5 Mod (want to route em to the Apple ports at the back of the case) and... 2. The red color to match my Enermax CoolerGiant. Both oso tarak on the AN8-SLi non-fatality. So with no availability forthcoming: went with DFI which has served me well. (Now I've gone and jinxed myself I'm sure I'm going to BSOD till the cows come home... On a Abit thread summore... ) |
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Oct 12 2005, 09:59 PM
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@jarofclay
yeah, its called the uguru panel right, I've hard of it, really really cool device, but izzit stable?? |
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Oct 13 2005, 05:03 AM
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can i share with u guys some pics of my abit?
  @aaron_lwm i dont think it does effect stability.. all it does are just display info bout ur current clock & vcore, time, temp, plus the cmos reset n usb, firewire & audio connector |
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Oct 13 2005, 05:21 AM
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//irenic.. nice setup dude. last time b4 buying my DFi Ultra-D, im choosing to get this fatal1ty, but after looking 4 some times, only pczone got single stock. almost bought it but when i check the SLi brigge, it look like been used/ got rusting. then, cancelled adi
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Oct 13 2005, 07:00 AM
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Nice setup Irenic.
Now you've got to show us the innards too! |
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Oct 13 2005, 07:39 AM
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@irenic
I meant the performance of the board. you've got a nice rig there, as what macdanife, U gotta show us the inside now. wanna see the board. TT ARmor, looks good |
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Oct 13 2005, 08:51 AM
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Aaron,
So far I think there's this once that when I try to tune the card to one of the preset clock speeds via the uguru panel, it hanged on me. Since then, I tried a couple more times, and it was okay. I dun think it's 100% stable. (Perhaps Irenic could share his experience as well) Therefore, I think it's better for me to change it in the BIOS. The panel is most useful though through: Front reset button!! Lalalalala... here I repeat myself again.... Can you imagine how cool it is without ever opening the chassis and reset the bios because you got no POST due to setting memory timings too tight? I am sure a lot of reviewers and overclockers would love it. |
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Oct 13 2005, 08:58 AM
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//Temporarily out of topic
Irenic, Your chassis makes my Shark look pale in comparison. A couple of questions, which I hope you could share: 1. How much did it cost you? 2. How is the space internally? Are there enough space to hide all cables while putting a water cooling system internally? 3. Have you seen Tai-Chi chassis? If you did, how do you feel about both in comparison? Hope that's not too much questions though. The black one really matches the Fatality board nicely. |
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Oct 13 2005, 11:39 AM
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can someone help me
i has build some amd 64 system just wanna know how to knock great performent of my pc n how about modded bios .... can it change something amd 64 3000+ abit an8 cossair 512 kit |
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Oct 13 2005, 01:12 PM
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QUOTE(MacDaNife @ Oct 12 2005, 09:24 PM) Actually (other than performance in which in benchies the board rates comparably to DFI NF4 SLi) there are two reasons why I wanted the Fatality.... Actually the front panel adds more cable clutter in your rig only... So I don't think its gonna help you to route the cables.1. The Front Panel breakout box. This is to simplify cable routing in my G5 Mod (want to route em to the Apple ports at the back of the case) and... 2. The red color to match my Enermax CoolerGiant. Both oso tarak on the AN8-SLi non-fatality. So with no availability forthcoming: went with DFI which has served me well. (Now I've gone and jinxed myself I'm sure I'm going to BSOD till the cows come home... On a Abit thread summore... )As to get a matching mobo for your CoolerGiant 600VH, certainly the Fatal1ty AN8-SLI would look lovely. Nevertheless, AN8-SLI (non-Fatal1ty) also has some red LEDs onboard (near the PWM and on the AudioMax). The colour of the AN8-SLI is orange, which is close to red. Moreover, it has red colour RAM slots, PCI slot, SATA2 headers, SLI bridge and even the SLI card is red in colour. If you need more red leds, you can actually solder it onto the AN8-SLI mobo because the soldering point is already there. Check out the pics...    |
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Oct 13 2005, 05:28 PM
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@pcmoddingmy
U sure its AN8-Sli version, I dun remember seeing any leds on the An8-Sli, I think that is An8 @silon lalalala, ur repeating again...lol |
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Oct 13 2005, 07:57 PM
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QUOTE(aaron_lwm @ Oct 13 2005, 05:28 PM) @pcmoddingmy Bro, I'm sure its AN8-SLI. I still have that board and it's still dead! U sure its AN8-Sli version, I dun remember seeing any leds on the An8-Sli, I think that is An8 @silon lalalala, ur repeating again...lol Anyways, I'll be getting a new one tmr... yay! |
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Oct 14 2005, 07:38 AM
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@pcmoddingmy
my condolences to your board....lol....abit is starting to get sucky. Good luck in getting ur new board, what are ya gonna get? |
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Oct 14 2005, 09:31 AM
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QUOTE(jarofclay @ Oct 13 2005, 08:58 AM) //Temporarily out of topic 1) this one cost around RM590. for silver case, the price is RM640.Irenic, Your chassis makes my Shark look pale in comparison. A couple of questions, which I hope you could share: 1. How much did it cost you? 2. How is the space internally? Are there enough space to hide all cables while putting a water cooling system internally? 3. Have you seen Tai-Chi chassis? If you did, how do you feel about both in comparison? Hope that's not too much questions though. The black one really matches the Fatality board nicely. 2) I'm very bad + lazy in hiding cables... i'll show the internal pic after this 3) Nope... Regarding the stability of front panel, i dont think i have any experience to share coz i never oc using uguru.. i only use the panel for .... reset cmos neway here is the pic.. very very messy hehe  |
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Oct 14 2005, 10:13 AM
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That is quite a fine price for such a fine chassis. I think I might get this as I saw the Tai-Chi's without a side window; so no way to show off the Abit mobo.
Thanks for the information... from the pix so far, I think there are a lot of room to hide the cables. |
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Oct 14 2005, 07:28 PM
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@irenic
nice case u got man.....hope to see the inside soon @jarodclay the taichi is ideal for WC, but no side window and its weight, make it an unpleasant case to carry around, but it has a sense of uniqueness |
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Oct 14 2005, 09:43 PM
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//Off topic
Actually, the Shark, Armor, Kandalf and Taichi are all water cooling built in mind. So I wouldn't buy the Tai Chi just becoz of this. Anyone of these is okay... I just need a chassis to show off the cool red leds of the Fatality; not to mention bigger space to hide the cables. |
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Oct 18 2005, 03:52 PM
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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Sep 28 2005, 07:37 PM) Beta bios 18 for OTES dissapear problem with Fatal1ty AN8 SLI thankss man http://cyguru.com/bios/an818.zip Fix know Fatal1ty SLI otes missing and fix system problem with X-FI sound card... |
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Oct 23 2005, 01:19 PM
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So have you tried the beta bios with X-Fi?
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Oct 23 2005, 03:01 PM
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QUOTE(irenic @ Oct 13 2005, 05:03 AM) can i share with u guys some pics of my abit? wahhh...nice...armor black summore...really matching with front panell...nyum nyum....@aaron_lwm i dont think it does effect stability.. all it does are just display info bout ur current clock & vcore, time, temp, plus the cmos reset n usb, firewire & audio connector p/s:really missed my fatality SLI days.... |
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Oct 23 2005, 05:32 PM
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QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Oct 23 2005, 03:01 PM) p/s:really missed my fatality SLI days.... Get another one ... hehehe |
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Oct 26 2005, 11:59 PM
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QUOTE(jarofclay @ Oct 23 2005, 01:19 PM) So have you tried the beta bios with X-Fi? no problem here |
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Oct 27 2005, 10:01 AM
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So, it's confirmed that bios 18 solved the issue while bios 17 is still showing incompatibility with X-Fi.
I'll get an X-Fi soon then. Thanks for the confirmation, Irenic. |
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Oct 28 2005, 02:15 AM
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the link i posted is released full version bios 18 now..
X-FI Issue is confirm fix... 1. Enhanced some VGA cards compatibility. 2. Update nVIDIA RAID BIOS to V4.8 3. Enhanced DRAM compatibility. 4. BIOS compiled date: 09/27/2005 confirm it is fix compartible with X2 too... updated ram timing... it is so far so good to me... |
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Oct 31 2005, 04:06 PM
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any KN8 User here ??
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Nov 11 2005, 12:03 AM
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Abit Fatal1ty AN8 SLi or DFI LANPARTY UT NF4 SLI-DR Expert. which one isbetter?
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Nov 11 2005, 01:32 AM
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Both has pro n cons
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Nov 12 2005, 01:39 AM
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QUOTE(kavamaks @ Nov 11 2005, 12:03 AM) Abit Fatal1ty AN8 SLi or DFI LANPARTY UT NF4 SLI-DR Expert. which one isbetter? Bro,SLI-DR Expert is more expensive than the Fatal1ty AN8 SLI. Besides, if you are not into hardcore overclocking, you can save up some cash and grab the AN8 SLI (non Fatal1ty) or NF4 SLI Infinity. |
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Nov 12 2005, 01:41 AM
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Btw, anyone with AN8 here having issues with OCZ RAMs?
I've been testing the AN8 SLI with OCZ PC3200 Gold BH5 and the mobo will automatically shutdown if VDIMM goes any higher than 3.2V. This mobo is supposed to go up to 3.5VDIMM but it is stable only to 3.2V, sighzzz... |
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Nov 27 2005, 07:06 AM
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I guess no one has the RAMs you mentioned. They're pretty rare over in Malaysia I guess. It's not that common here as well in Oregon, unless you are ordering via newegg.
Since you have some of these OCZ RAMs, how's the performance of them? I saw a lot of Platinums over here that is rated PC3200, but I heard it overclocks pretty badly, only reaching 220 or 230 max. QUOTE(pcmoddingmy @ Nov 12 2005, 01:41 AM) Btw, anyone with AN8 here having issues with OCZ RAMs? I've been testing the AN8 SLI with OCZ PC3200 Gold BH5 and the mobo will automatically shutdown if VDIMM goes any higher than 3.2V. This mobo is supposed to go up to 3.5VDIMM but it is stable only to 3.2V, sighzzz... |
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Nov 28 2005, 03:21 AM
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run at stock.. go for the cheaper board...
running OC... definite DFI... |
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Nov 29 2005, 05:03 PM
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QUOTE(tictac @ Oct 23 2005, 05:32 PM) Get another one ... hehehe dun wan lar...tidak mungkin berpaling lagi - SLAM QUOTE(pcmoddingmy @ Nov 12 2005, 01:39 AM) Bro, ehem..ehem...SLI-DR Expert is more expensive than the Fatal1ty AN8 SLI. Besides, if you are not into hardcore overclocking, you can save up some cash and grab the AN8 SLI (non Fatal1ty) or NF4 SLI Infinity. that kinda question should be answered in 1 way only.... GOOGLE LAHHH!!!! hihihihi Abit much better...can overclock..plus cheaper than DFI |
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Nov 30 2005, 07:04 AM
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i need some help...is there any issues for abit an8-sli mobo with corsair xms4400 tccd rams?
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Nov 30 2005, 11:56 AM
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QUOTE(vickyrao @ Nov 30 2005, 07:04 AM) i need some help...is there any issues for abit an8-sli mobo with corsair xms4400 tccd rams? what kind of problems??AFAIK TCCD works fine with AN8....Like mine last time....Unless if ur running dual channel and try rocketing sky high than i dont know if failure is the problem u mentioned?? |
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Nov 30 2005, 01:27 PM
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QUOTE(vickyrao @ Nov 30 2005, 07:04 AM) i need some help...is there any issues for abit an8-sli mobo with corsair xms4400 tccd rams? Abit AN8 SLI will have no issues with XMS4400 TCCD RAMS. I've personally tested XMS3200XL TCCD RAMs on this mobo and managed to get a whopping 325MHz (DDR650) with it. And yes, it was running dual channel and prime stable!But, it might be a lil' bit harder to reach higher speeds with 1Gb kit (mine was 512MB kit). Also, it depends on your processor..... since the memory controller is on the processor itself. Although this mobo lacks drive strength, tref and a few more memory tweaking options via the BIOS, its just a matter of time when Abit releases a new BIOS with all the goodies. BIOS 18 and BIOS 19 has been the most stable so far, so you might wanna update the BIOS. Bottom line; you should have no issues when running Corsair or Mushkin modules on this mobo. But, there seems to be some issue with OCZ BH5 RAMs with this mobo. |
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Nov 30 2005, 09:11 PM
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bios 19 lunch already ?? anybody hav test it ??
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Nov 30 2005, 11:55 PM
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QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Nov 30 2005, 11:56 AM) what kind of problems?? AFAIK TCCD works fine with AN8....Like mine last time....Unless if ur running dual channel and try rocketing sky high than i dont know if failure is the problem u mentioned?? QUOTE(pcmoddingmy @ Nov 30 2005, 01:27 PM) Abit AN8 SLI will have no issues with XMS4400 TCCD RAMS. I've personally tested XMS3200XL TCCD RAMs on this mobo and managed to get a whopping 325MHz (DDR650) with it. And yes, it was running dual channel and prime stable! thanks for the helpful info guys....well now im running on default bios which is bios 15.....well the problem i encountered first was:But, it might be a lil' bit harder to reach higher speeds with 1Gb kit (mine was 512MB kit). Also, it depends on your processor..... since the memory controller is on the processor itself. Although this mobo lacks drive strength, tref and a few more memory tweaking options via the BIOS, its just a matter of time when Abit releases a new BIOS with all the goodies. BIOS 18 and BIOS 19 has been the most stable so far, so you might wanna update the BIOS. Bottom line; you should have no issues when running Corsair or Mushkin modules on this mobo. But, there seems to be some issue with OCZ BH5 RAMs with this mobo. i set bios settings all on default...even dram settings as well. then install windows....BLUE SCREEN....then i change my ram timing to 2T....then i had no problems..... after installing windows...i tried again to change it to 1T....ok...no problem for now. then i started to OC....well...i have no problems overclocking it to 250htt....but i have problem if i go higher then that....i will get blue screen or maybe super pi cannot pass..... so im really wondering wats the problem....ive even increased the voltage upto 2.9v the max for tccd.....but still no changes.....same problem.... i used to use these rams b4 with my neo2platinum...n i manage to clock it at 310htt.....n now im wondering where have i gone wrong?? n btw...im using a single msi 6600gt diamond edition....how come it shows that my 6600gt is running on PCIex 8x.....instead of 16x??? |
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Dec 1 2005, 09:40 AM
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ok ive updated my bios to BIOS 19......but still i cant boot properly with 1T timing.....it will reboot automatically when loading windows.....
then i change to 2T timing...n here i m replying to u guys....please help me out...does this have anything to do with my processor??i mean isit some sort dead?? |
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Dec 1 2005, 01:06 PM
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the 1T only fix for some processor + ram combination. For me, it still 2T with my patriot while the Gskill tccd can do 1T. But this latest bios does improve my ram performance. now can do 1T up to 237. Last time only 220
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Dec 1 2005, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE(vickyrao @ Dec 1 2005, 09:40 AM) ok ive updated my bios to BIOS 19......but still i cant boot properly with 1T timing.....it will reboot automatically when loading windows..... hmmmm...whats ur ram timings setup???post here mebbe ppl can calculate them for u then i change to 2T timing...n here i m replying to u guys....please help me out...does this have anything to do with my processor??i mean isit some sort dead?? |
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Dec 1 2005, 04:32 PM
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just a quick test.
AMD64 x2 3800+ @ 305 x 8 = 2440mhz 3x LDT Multiplier GSKILL TCCD 512x2 @ 2.5-4-3-10 @ 2.75vdimm @ 305mhz 1T dram clock 400 2.5 11 14 4 10 3 2 2 4 1T 4 Beats disabled Auto Continuos max can go into windows is 310mhz, but cant finished 3dmark03.. 305 is so far so good Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Dec 1 2005, 11:46 PM
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QUOTE(irenic @ Dec 1 2005, 01:06 PM) the 1T only fix for some processor + ram combination. For me, it still 2T with my patriot while the Gskill tccd can do 1T. But this latest bios does improve my ram performance. now can do 1T up to 237. Last time only 220 well bro...but i was using these rams b4 with my venice n also my k8n neo2.....with default ram timings....i can hit 310htt x9 = 2.8ghz.....n when i bought this ram again from gengstapo.....i cannot hit above 250htt......max i hit was 250htt with 2t timing...y is dis??is there a possibility that my proc memory controller is screwed??cos if it is then i think i should send for claim lor...wat u think??help me out...thanks... p/s: imposibble ram problem cos gengstapo run memtest with me n he was running it at 1t....with no problems at all.... QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Dec 1 2005, 03:16 PM) hmmmm...whats ur ram timings setup???post here mebbe ppl can calculate them for u ok...currently im using default timings...but pcmoddingmy gave me some new settings for me to try but unfortunately i didnt see his posting till now.....cos i was busy playing nfsmw n jz got my WOW....so busy pdating the game lor....hehehe..will try it out tomolo n will post up orite??thanks... QUOTE(irenic @ Dec 1 2005, 04:32 PM) just a quick test. wat if u set ur multiplier on default say 10x if thats for ur proc la....can it hit 305??or will it hit lesser???AMD64 x2 3800+ @ 305 x 8 = 2440mhz 3x LDT Multiplier GSKILL TCCD 512x2 @ 2.5-4-3-10 @ 2.75vdimm @ 305mhz 1T dram clock 400 2.5 11 14 4 10 3 2 2 4 1T 4 Beats disabled Auto Continuos max can go into windows is 310mhz, but cant finished 3dmark03.. 305 is so far so good im really sorry guys....but im still learning in memory settings....sorry if im asking u guys really noob question orite??i knw it can be irritating....but i appreciate every help that u guys can gimme...thanks in advance... |
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Dec 2 2005, 04:41 AM
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sorry for asking here!! planning to buy abit fatally sli !!
just wanna ask poeple that use this board good or not?? stablity or etc?? dun flame me ! thx alot! |
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Dec 2 2005, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE(ah_fong @ Dec 2 2005, 04:41 AM) sorry for asking here!! planning to buy abit fatally sli !! fuhh...good...go buy...got LED's that looks COOL at nite...got digital indicator summore..got front I/O summore....go grab one today...summore it is endorsed by Fatality Wendell....gilaaa lahhh... just wanna ask poeple that use this board good or not?? stablity or etc?? dun flame me ! thx alot! |
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Dec 2 2005, 10:50 PM
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my old result.. 300htt @ 1T using KVR kingston chip week 2 2005
1 : 1 divider (quite shock bcoz only using KVR with very2 loose timing)bios 17  |
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Dec 2 2005, 10:52 PM
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ram timing
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Dec 2 2005, 11:16 PM
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dual 512 kingston value ram with hynix chipset go to 300MHZ @@"
that's WOW |
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Dec 3 2005, 10:47 AM
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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Dec 2 2005, 11:16 PM) dual 512 kingston value ram with hynix chipset go to 300MHZ @@" i dont know what type chip on my ram.. some review state my ram as hynix.. itz KVR with kingston label D3208DH2T-2 ... i burn my ram till 2.9vdimm that's WOW actually can up till 309 but blue screen appear after 10 minit... hehe... 300 is stable and pass memory test... using timing 3-4-4-15 @ 1T with 2.9vdimm *my an8 ultra dont hav any problem with 1T at high fsb using venice |
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Dec 3 2005, 11:07 AM
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woww.. sure nice stuff u got there & 2.9vdimm consider a safe voltage for RAms. but then the timming were ...
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Dec 3 2005, 01:11 PM
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QUOTE(wadieq @ Dec 2 2005, 10:50 PM) my old result.. 300htt @ 1T using KVR kingston chip week 2 2005 that sure is a very good result considering u only use KVR Rams...1 : 1 divider (quite shock bcoz only using KVR with very2 loose timing)bios 17 QUOTE(cyberloner @ Dec 2 2005, 11:16 PM) dual 512 kingston value ram with hynix chipset go to 300MHZ @@" it surely is...did u notice the timings???that's WOW QUOTE(gengstapo @ Dec 3 2005, 11:07 AM) woww.. sure nice stuff u got there & 2.9vdimm consider a safe voltage for RAms. but then the timming were ... wow bro...notice the timings or not???It is as the same like TCCx but only the CAS is not as kicking as CAS 2.5....summore what is with the 15 TRAS??.... lower it lar bro....compensate using Max ASYNC Latency, Read premble and also the TREF... |
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Dec 3 2005, 11:58 PM
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damn la...i still can go above 250htt still.....something is certainly wrong somewhere....i tried playing with the timings that pcmoddingmy gave me...ns till same la.....then i reset my bios to default....without OC.....n ram on default....cant boot windows again...cos 1T ....i change to 2T...no problem......pls...someone help me....isit my ram problem or my proc memory controller problem?
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Dec 4 2005, 01:01 AM
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As far as I read, you can't go any further than 250HTT with AN8 SLI. It was from Anandtech
Do you have any other friends over there who has another A64 board? If yes, pop your RAM in it and try. Then try with your CPU and RAM on that board. If it surpassed 250HTT with another board, I guess it's the motherboard that's limiting your run there. |
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Dec 4 2005, 10:43 AM
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maybe it was a few months ago.. i dunno.. but from my experienced, my patriot can go up to 27x 1:1 while my gskill tccd can go up to 310 1:1 .. both tested with bios 19.
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Dec 4 2005, 10:20 PM
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my ram cant do tight.. only 3-3-3-8... lower than that pc wont boot.. with default vdimm can reach 252HTT and stable.. i want to try oc again but my psu is weng now (icute only)... now want to buy new one... anybody want to sell their psu ??
@antonio_zth : i think TRAS latency does not effect too much in ram timing... that time i try.. not much different if 12 or 15... |
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Dec 4 2005, 10:25 PM
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something problem using newer an8 bios... izzit normal CPU temp lower than SYS and PWM temp ?? my temp drop when i flash it to 17..
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Dec 5 2005, 04:27 AM
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Nope, it's not normal. But why dun you physically see if the southbridge heatsink is hotter than the cpu heatsink? That would confirm the readings.
You might wanna flash to 19 again to see if it works since quite a lot of people are reporting 19 is stable. QUOTE(wadieq @ Dec 4 2005, 10:25 PM) something problem using newer an8 bios... izzit normal CPU temp lower than SYS and PWM temp ?? my temp drop when i flash it to 17.. |
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Dec 5 2005, 12:02 PM
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QUOTE(wadieq @ Dec 4 2005, 10:20 PM) @antonio_zth : i think TRAS latency does not effect too much in ram timing... that time i try.. not much different if 12 or 15... it doesnt...but it can stabilized the "gelojoh" wave of 'data' which is force to work hard.... |
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Dec 5 2005, 10:48 PM
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already flash my bios to 19... still the same.. sys and pwm still higher than cpu temp.. actly it also happend to all my friend who using an8 board (an8 and an8 ultra) after flashing up to bios 17... cpu temp drop.. also happend to abit av8.. cpu temp drop after use bios 24
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Dec 6 2005, 12:43 PM
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I heard this mobo is good!
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Dec 6 2005, 12:45 PM
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heard only ?? why dont u try ??
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Dec 17 2005, 11:43 PM
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using fatality an8 now...really.OC at 250fsb using I cute psu nia...hehe.
but stable. means this board is 'Cun ' la. i think the fatality an8 sli better, higher vdimm 3.5v.. |
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Dec 19 2005, 02:31 PM
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QUOTE(shift2 @ Dec 17 2005, 11:43 PM) using fatality an8 now...really.OC at 250fsb using I cute psu nia...hehe. FataL1ty SLI 'once' user here....yerpp it is really 'cun'... but stable. means this board is 'Cun ' la. i think the fatality an8 sli better, higher vdimm 3.5v.. to look at i mean... |
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Dec 20 2005, 08:09 PM
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i'm going to sell my abit fatal1ty an8 sli.. i've no choice.. so sad
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Dec 20 2005, 08:33 PM
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Why sell it? Though, I reckon that it's not the right board to overclock. I am hitting a brick wall with my 1GB RAM modules.
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Dec 20 2005, 10:33 PM
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QUOTE(jarofclay @ Dec 20 2005, 08:33 PM) Why sell it? Though, I reckon that it's not the right board to overclock. I am hitting a brick wall with my 1GB RAM modules. nope. not bcoz of overclock. I manage to hit 255fsb with my patriot 2gb kit. I love this board bcoz of stability and still can oc... but i might have to sacrifice it to give way for other hardware This post has been edited by irenic: Dec 20 2005, 10:34 PM |
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Dec 21 2005, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE(irenic @ Dec 20 2005, 08:09 PM) i'm going to sell my abit fatal1ty an8 sli.. i've no choice.. so sad huh???why???aaahhhh nooooo!!!!!.... QUOTE(irenic @ Dec 20 2005, 10:33 PM) nope. not bcoz of overclock. I manage to hit 255fsb with my patriot 2gb kit. I love this board bcoz of stability and still can oc... but i might have to sacrifice it to give way for other hardware tipu...tipu...tipu....wanna grab DFI eh?? |
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Dec 21 2005, 10:44 AM
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QUOTE(irenic @ Dec 20 2005, 10:33 PM) nope. not bcoz of overclock. I manage to hit 255fsb with my patriot 2gb kit. I love this board bcoz of stability and still can oc... but i might have to sacrifice it to give way for other hardware Expert anyone? |
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Dec 21 2005, 11:11 AM
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QUOTE(irenic @ Dec 20 2005, 08:09 PM) i'm going to sell my abit fatal1ty an8 sli.. i've no choice.. so sad fatal1ty? I thought that was a famous Quake tourney Player |
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Dec 21 2005, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE(tAmp0i @ Dec 21 2005, 10:44 AM) Expert anyone? maybe not...or maybe i'm wrong sumtimes... |
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Dec 21 2005, 01:05 PM
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QUOTE(tAmp0i @ Dec 21 2005, 10:44 AM) Expert anyone? QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Dec 21 2005, 12:10 PM) maybe not...or maybe i'm wrong sumtimes... maybe not.. too many bugs for the current eXpert... |
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Dec 21 2005, 06:37 PM
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eXPeRT? user only
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Dec 21 2005, 08:07 PM
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irenic... how much you want to sell it ?? reason for selling ??
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Dec 22 2005, 02:16 AM
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QUOTE(wadieq @ Dec 21 2005, 08:07 PM) irenic... how much you want to sell it ?? reason for selling ?? look at my sig. thx |
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Dec 28 2005, 05:51 PM
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@irenic.. cancel my order... becoz my x300 dead now .. huhu.. want to buy new card 1st
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Dec 28 2005, 06:25 PM
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QUOTE(wadieq @ Dec 28 2005, 05:51 PM) @irenic.. cancel my order... becoz my x300 dead now .. huhu.. want to buy new card 1st order? do u mean my abit fatal1ty? it sold already lah bro hehe |
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Dec 28 2005, 06:29 PM
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i am the new owner
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Dec 29 2005, 12:04 AM
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heh.. sold already ?? huhu.. i still interest with ur guru panel.. neway... cheer for new fatality sli owner ..
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Dec 29 2005, 09:46 PM
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Can this board be found anywhere? I asked 2 shops near my workplace. One said the board is obsolete and another said that the board has no status.
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Dec 30 2005, 07:39 PM
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@ffrulz
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Dec 30 2005, 07:50 PM
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QUOTE(ffrulz @ Dec 29 2005, 09:46 PM) Can this board be found anywhere? I asked 2 shops near my workplace. One said the board is obsolete and another said that the board has no status. i don't know about the obsolete and cant find anywhere part....but about no status as sure as i can see....it is true... get an AN8 Ultra or vanilla AN8 lar.... |
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Jan 2 2006, 10:52 PM
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eh i tot i just saw this board at pczone lyp
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QUOTE(irenic @ Dec 20 2005, 10:33 PM) nope. not bcoz of overclock. I manage to hit 255fsb with my patriot 2gb kit. I love this board bcoz of stability and still can oc... but i might have to sacrifice it to give way for other hardware Erm.. u r using 2GB kit...how about 'berani-mati' style to use 1GB dual Channel KVR to get bootable 250/260 FSB? I've tried it. And I have seen how Fatal1ty SLi can goes up to 290FSB with 2GB dual channel KVR+1GB dual channel KVR (of course not good, just trying the timing)... Erm... So many DFI hardcore user eh in Low Yatt? erm.. just a little eyecandy... DFI Lanparty RDX200 Ver. 001 CD-Title ATI catalyst V5.11 graphic driver VS ABIT ATI V1.00M Beta6 CD-Title ATI catalyst V5.11 graphic driver Proud to be AN8 Fatal1ty SLi owner.. |
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Jan 4 2006, 02:28 PM
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QUOTE(batousai @ Jan 3 2006, 01:31 AM) erm.. just a little eyecandy... DFI Lanparty RDX200 Ver. 001 CD-Title ATI catalyst V5.11 graphic driver VS ABIT ATI V1.00M Beta6 CD-Title ATI catalyst V5.11 graphic driver Proud to be AN8 Fatal1ty SLi owner.. anyone wanna sell their Fatal1ty Mobo??? |
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QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Jan 4 2006, 02:28 PM) anyone wanna sell their Fatal1ty Mobo??? its a good mobo actually!!!! Hahhahaha.. anyway, their tech support is very good and fast. p/s: feels sorry to user who wants to change their Fatal1ty with other brands anyway, did you notice that Fatal1ty price have not change (if yes, its only a litttllllleeeee bit lah..)? Can you expect the mobo value? Think yourself.. Hahhahaha... This post has been edited by batousai: Jan 4 2006, 03:41 PM |
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QUOTE(batousai @ Jan 4 2006, 03:40 PM) antonio... who wants to sell???? juz askin...if got oso i wont buy....hahahaha....its a good mobo actually!!!! Hahhahaha.. anyway, their tech support is very good and fast. p/s: feels sorry to user who wants to change their Fatal1ty with other brands anyway, did you notice that Fatal1ty price have not change (if yes, its only a litttllllleeeee bit lah..)? Can you expect the mobo value? Think yourself.. Hahhahaha... ya..ya...good value...good board... antonio previous owner of the Abit Fatal1ty SLI motherboard This post has been edited by antonio_zth: Jan 4 2006, 03:47 PM |
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Jan 4 2006, 03:47 PM
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QUOTE(batousai @ Jan 4 2006, 03:40 PM) antonio... who wants to sell???? its a good board.. but why u must feel sorry for user who change from fatal1ty to other brand? i'm asking coz i was the user of fatal1ty its a good mobo actually!!!! Hahhahaha.. anyway, their tech support is very good and fast. p/s: feels sorry to user who wants to change their Fatal1ty with other brands anyway, did you notice that Fatal1ty price have not change (if yes, its only a litttllllleeeee bit lah..)? Can you expect the mobo value? Think yourself.. Hahhahaha... |
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Jan 4 2006, 03:48 PM
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i having problem with this MOBO ler...
whenever i on BitComet or setting with Netowrk, it will go bluescreen but if never touch that, everythings is good.... how ar? |
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Jan 4 2006, 03:50 PM
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Yeah I know in LY forum, there are too many hardcore DFI fans out here.. Hahhaha... There is too many... huhuhuuuuuu
I'm also sometimes 'kena hantam' with my friend who is DFI overclockers hardcore and he insisted me to change for DFI.. hahhahahaha... No way mannn!!!! Wakakakakkaka~ |
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Jan 4 2006, 03:54 PM
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QUOTE(cyberian @ Jan 4 2006, 03:48 PM) i having problem with this MOBO ler... Have you downloaded the latest nvidia driver? get it herewhenever i on BitComet or setting with Netowrk, it will go bluescreen but if never touch that, everythings is good.... how ar? QUOTE its a good board.. but why u must feel sorry for user who change from fatal1ty to other brand? i'm asking coz i was the user of fatal1ty Just say that to 'cover' all Fatal1ty users here.. Hahhahahah |
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Jan 4 2006, 03:54 PM
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QUOTE(batousai @ Jan 4 2006, 03:50 PM) Yeah I know in LY forum, there are too many hardcore DFI fans out here.. Hahhaha... There is too many... huhuhuuuuuu one of the is replying ur post... I'm also sometimes 'kena hantam' with my friend who is DFI overclockers hardcore and he insisted me to change for DFI.. hahhahahaha... No way mannn!!!! Wakakakakkaka~ but my 'hentam' mode is off no need hentam ppl....what good we say good right...whats bad..sure kena hentam if ppl say bad things are good.... This post has been edited by antonio_zth: Jan 4 2006, 03:55 PM |
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Jan 4 2006, 03:57 PM
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QUOTE(irenic @ Jan 4 2006, 03:47 PM) its a good board.. but why u must feel sorry for user who change from fatal1ty to other brand? i'm asking coz i was the user of fatal1ty oit..abang dah jual ker????hehehehhe.....I told u aledi last time...ihihihi....but better oso u and me didnt sell together at the same time...coz afterwads looks like the board got standard...hahahha.. |
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Jan 4 2006, 04:30 PM
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the hentam mode continues and I'm the poor user again.... Hahhahhahhaha.. Back me up lah! Hahahahahha~
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Jan 4 2006, 04:46 PM
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no lar where got hentam....
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Jan 4 2006, 04:54 PM
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wat the price for a 2nd hand AN8 fatality?
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Jan 4 2006, 05:59 PM
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fatal1ty is good. just it is not compatible with my ballistix. and fyi, i still have phobia in using DFI lanparty nforce 4
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Jan 4 2006, 06:11 PM
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QUOTE(shift2 @ Jan 4 2006, 04:54 PM) wat the price for a 2nd hand AN8 fatality? around rm500 last time i sold mine...now dunno how much....QUOTE(irenic @ Jan 4 2006, 05:59 PM) fatal1ty is good. just it is not compatible with my ballistix. and fyi, i still have phobia in using DFI lanparty nforce 4 see....one good result on Fatal1ty |
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Jan 5 2006, 10:06 AM
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yes yes, problem solved...
formatted and installed new NForce Driver... not to install Nvidia Firewall... |
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Jan 5 2006, 03:46 PM
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hv a question,....y i cant set up LAN wif my an8 mobo?is the nvidia firewall kacau?
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Jan 5 2006, 07:42 PM
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QUOTE(shift2 @ Jan 5 2006, 03:46 PM) hv a question,....y i cant set up LAN wif my an8 mobo?is the nvidia firewall kacau? dun use NVDIA firewall lar...damn kacau lar that thing.... |
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Jan 6 2006, 12:24 AM
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wat d heck???so kacau 1..haizzz...i goin to uninstall it then..
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Jan 6 2006, 12:26 AM
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thanks anyway lo...i like LYN la...so many sifu here..
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Jan 6 2006, 02:16 PM
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Just got a regular AN8 SLI 3 days ago. The Fatal1ty disc only offers the audio driver , amd c&q driver and the use 2.0 driver. I was so pissed , I had to go to my father's room to download the driver. Other than that and the Nvidia firewall thing I'm pretty much happy with the board and my new Sapphire X800GTO R480 core
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Jan 7 2006, 10:20 PM
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i'm using fatality an8 now
just start using amd for 6 moth ago, currently usng intel with ai7 board it was very easy using the intel boaed but hard for me to oc when using amd can any one help me one more thng the guru panel ada jual kaaa if got where i can buy it |
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Jan 8 2006, 12:34 AM
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haa.... got different ke amd & intel in term how to overclock? i think it is da same......
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Jan 8 2006, 12:51 AM
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Sorry my mistake
didnt make any review first |
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Jan 8 2006, 01:26 AM
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QUOTE(syazone @ Jan 8 2006, 12:34 AM) haa.... got different ke amd & intel in term how to overclock? i think it is da same...... a little more confusing with AMD64 lai remember when i just switched, duno wth is HTT and stuff |
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Jan 8 2006, 12:05 PM
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Yup, especially with the LDT multiplier, 2T or 1T command rates... these things are not applicable in Intel platforms... took me some time to switch over to A64 with the help of ARJ and BabyElf. Otherwise, upto today, I would not have understood how to properly configure an A64 system...
QUOTE(KilJim @ Jan 8 2006, 01:26 AM) a little more confusing with AMD64 la i remember when i just switched, duno wth is HTT and stuff |
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Jan 8 2006, 09:15 PM
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QUOTE(emilz @ Jan 7 2006, 10:20 PM) i'm using fatality an8 now the Fatal1ty AN8 comes with the panel.just start using amd for 6 moth ago, currently usng intel with ai7 board it was very easy using the intel boaed but hard for me to oc when using amd can any one help me one more thng the guru panel ada jual kaaa if got where i can buy it |
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Jan 8 2006, 10:27 PM
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QUOTE(ffrulz @ Jan 8 2006, 09:15 PM) the Fatal1ty AN8 comes with the panel. no...dun hv |
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Jan 8 2006, 10:43 PM
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QUOTE(shift2 @ Jan 8 2006, 10:27 PM) no...dun hv Oops , I thought it was the fatal1ty an8 sli. My mistake Well about the Guru Panel , I asked Thundermatch JB and they called their supplier. Then their supplier said that they can bring it in directly from taiwan but I'll have to wait at least 2months. And it will cost Rm200+. This post has been edited by ffrulz: Jan 8 2006, 10:55 PM |
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Jan 9 2006, 02:50 AM
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Low yat plaza dont have ka
any one want to sell ka??? This post has been edited by emilz: Jan 9 2006, 02:55 AM |
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Jan 9 2006, 07:53 AM
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I think no one would want to sell their panels as it is quite exclusive and it is one of the reasons for Fatality SLI users to buy the mobo in the first place.
One of the coolest features is that it can select a preset of overclock settings and it can enable reset function at the front. That itself, is a key selling feature of this panel. |
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Jan 9 2006, 01:55 PM
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wah rm200 for that panel???? piece of plastic oso so expensive...hahah.
:P but look cun |
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Jan 9 2006, 09:26 PM
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i dun think that rm200 worth... for it...
u have uGURU clock for replacement.... if u are into oc with it... i do suggest u clock from bios cause it is the best way.... |
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Jan 10 2006, 07:00 AM
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QUOTE(cyberloner @ Jan 9 2006, 09:26 PM) i dun think that rm200 worth... for it... Oo..u have uGURU clock for replacement.... if u are into oc with it... i do suggest u clock from bios cause it is the best way.... uGURU clock?? that come with 3rd Eye version mboard? or u buy it seperately |
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Jan 10 2006, 02:23 PM
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Well about the Guru Panel , I asked Thundermatch JB and they called their supplier. Then their supplier said that they can bring it in directly from taiwan but I'll have to wait at least 2months. And it will cost Rm200+. [/quote] wah RM 200.00 is to expensive ooo is there any other way to get this panel |
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Jan 10 2006, 05:50 PM
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Most of these peripherals if bought separately you'd be slaughtered with the insanely inflated prices. It's not worth it if you buy it separately. Might as well buy a mobo at slightly higher price that bundles them together.
But then again... for those whose nasi sudah jadi bubur, no choice then. |
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Jan 10 2006, 06:04 PM
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Errr..... The panel thingy... It's RM20 only. I have no idea where'd the extra "0" came from. >_>
And no, no more Abit mobo's sell the UGURU panel together. Only the tech. is implemented into the mobo. Panel's are all sold seperately. And those who bought the first few Abit mobo's providing UGURU tech. should have got them for free. It only started selling seperately after receiving humoungous response and a large demand for it. This post has been edited by supertjs: Jan 10 2006, 06:27 PM |
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Jan 10 2006, 07:06 PM
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rm20 nia ar??? where can i get that? LYP store?
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Jan 10 2006, 07:19 PM
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QUOTE(supertjs @ Jan 10 2006, 06:04 PM) Errr..... The panel thingy... It's RM20 only. I have no idea where'd the extra "0" came from. >_> Try gettin me one for RM20 then. And no, no more Abit mobo's sell the UGURU panel together. Only the tech. is implemented into the mobo. Panel's are all sold seperately. And those who bought the first few Abit mobo's providing UGURU tech. should have got them for free. It only started selling seperately after receiving humoungous response and a large demand for it. /rolls eyes |
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Jan 10 2006, 07:48 PM
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RM20 for a Guru Panel?
You gotta be kidding!  No more Abit mobo's come with the Guru Panel together? How about Fatal1ty AN8 SLI?? I bet it comes with Guru Panel... Actually Abit has been selling the Guru Panel for quite some time. They first started to sell the Guru Clock (which had about 2-3 versions) and the latest one is the Guru Panel. And its not free... you actually pay for it! Its just that you don't see the actual price of it. Check out HERE for a list of mobo that works with Guru Panel And its even on sale online for as low as RM171 (LINK) QUOTE(supertjs @ Jan 10 2006, 06:04 PM) Errr..... The panel thingy... It's RM20 only. I have no idea where'd the extra "0" came from. >_> And no, no more Abit mobo's sell the UGURU panel together. Only the tech. is implemented into the mobo. Panel's are all sold seperately. And those who bought the first few Abit mobo's providing UGURU tech. should have got them for free. It only started selling seperately after receiving humoungous response and a large demand for it. |
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Jan 10 2006, 10:08 PM
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QUOTE(supertjs @ Jan 10 2006, 06:04 PM) Errr..... The panel thingy... It's RM20 only. I have no idea where'd the extra "0" came from. >_> you've got the wrong thingAnd no, no more Abit mobo's sell the UGURU panel together. Only the tech. is implemented into the mobo. Panel's are all sold seperately. And those who bought the first few Abit mobo's providing UGURU tech. should have got them for free. It only started selling seperately after receiving humoungous response and a large demand for it. i bet you're thinking about the Clock thing which is placed outside the case right? this panel they mean is placed in your cdrom bay with lotsa fancy stuff |
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Jan 10 2006, 11:06 PM
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Well, first of all if you need to have the Guru Panel that is located on the cdrom slot, there are some adjustments needed to make to the PCB of the mobo such as adding the jumpers that the guru panel receives and sends info to the mobo.
And these developments (R&D) doesn't cost nothing; they're amortized into the cost at the end. That's why you find Fatality AN8 SLI costs so much more compared to plain jane AN8s... |
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Jan 10 2006, 11:30 PM
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QUOTE(shift2 @ Jan 10 2006, 07:00 AM) Oo.. GURU clock...uGURU clock?? that come with 3rd Eye version mboard? or u buy it seperatelyu can buy it seperately.... it also comes with the 3rd eye mobo..... about the panel ... no news about it... heard abit is releasing it but no news about it ... |
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Jan 12 2006, 09:55 PM
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anyone can help??
i reset my CMOS.. now whenever i OC my CPU, when reboot.. the comp will beep... beep.... then automatic set the clock to default one.. wat can i do arr? This post has been edited by cyberian: Jan 12 2006, 09:56 PM |
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Jan 13 2006, 03:23 AM
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have u try load optimize default in bios? check ur temperature, and check ur cpu fan n northbridge fan see whether they're still spinning or not.
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Jan 13 2006, 08:31 AM
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Check your Abit EQ, whether any of the paremeter thresholds has been breached such as fan speed too low or temperatures too high.
You can check these in BIOS. QUOTE(cyberian @ Jan 12 2006, 09:55 PM) anyone can help?? i reset my CMOS.. now whenever i OC my CPU, when reboot.. the comp will beep... beep.... then automatic set the clock to default one.. wat can i do arr? |
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Jan 13 2006, 09:53 AM
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er.. too many setting...
erm, will ask Irenic after his last paper today can recommend me the setting of temp and fan speed? haih... too complicated... |
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Jan 13 2006, 05:28 PM
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QUOTE(cyberian @ Jan 12 2006, 09:55 PM) anyone can help?? Maybe u forgot to change your frequency multiplier? I had that problem before. Who knows... i reset my CMOS.. now whenever i OC my CPU, when reboot.. the comp will beep... beep.... then automatic set the clock to default one.. wat can i do arr? |
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Jan 13 2006, 07:27 PM
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Actually depends on you. But one thing you might wanna uncheck is the shutdown if the fan speed is too slow. You might also wanna disable Cool and Quiet. Check your LDT multiplier as well, make sure that it never exceed 1ghz after multiplying it with your HTT.
QUOTE(cyberian @ Jan 13 2006, 09:53 AM) er.. too many setting... erm, will ask Irenic after his last paper today can recommend me the setting of temp and fan speed? haih... too complicated... |
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Jan 13 2006, 08:02 PM
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QUOTE(cyberian @ Jan 13 2006, 09:53 AM) er.. too many setting... try above 25c/30c = full speed on whichever fan...maybe it helps... erm, will ask Irenic after his last paper today can recommend me the setting of temp and fan speed? haih... too complicated... |
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Jan 14 2006, 03:09 PM
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Not sure if this is good news for Abit boards but I was able to push (not stable though) to 310HTT and able to play games with it. It's not stable enough though for SP2004 to pass.
300HTT on the other hand is stable enough for superpi. WHat do you guys think? This post has been edited by jarofclay: Jan 14 2006, 03:09 PM Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Jan 14 2006, 07:37 PM
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it is cpu limit....
or maybe not enough voltage.... push more vcore and prime95... mine can push more but i prefer lower a bit than using max oc as i know the board can support high htt but was limited by cpu... if have good cooling + lower multiplier + full vcore ... high htt can be archieve |
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Jan 14 2006, 07:55 PM
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Mind capturing a cpu-z screenie for me?
QUOTE(cyberloner @ Jan 14 2006, 07:37 PM) it is cpu limit.... or maybe not enough voltage.... push more vcore and prime95... mine can push more but i prefer lower a bit than using max oc as i know the board can support high htt but was limited by cpu... if have good cooling + lower multiplier + full vcore ... high htt can be archieve |
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Jan 14 2006, 08:28 PM
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rma your board, you probably have the overvoltage issue. the good fatal1ty an8-sli board has 1 extra capacitor and 3 different capacitor from the bad one.
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Jan 15 2006, 02:23 PM
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mine can do 315 with 9 multiplier... 345 with 8.. never try with lower multiplier.. try to oc more after getting better PSU after this....
*running on icute only .. cheap stuff |
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Jan 15 2006, 02:54 PM
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Wow, at 345!! What RAM divider you're using?
QUOTE(wadieq @ Jan 15 2006, 02:23 PM) mine can do 315 with 9 multiplier... 345 with 8.. never try with lower multiplier.. try to oc more after getting better PSU after this.... *running on icute only .. cheap stuff |
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Jan 15 2006, 04:56 PM
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I'm not sure if I've post here...
Here's my AN8 SLI doing 400HTT http://lp.pcmoddingmy.com/albums/userpics/...8SLI/400HTT.jpg This post has been edited by pcmoddingmy: Jan 15 2006, 04:56 PM |
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QUOTE(pcmoddingmy @ Jan 15 2006, 04:56 PM) I'm not sure if I've post here... 400HTT @ 4 multiplier with 200HTT @ 8 muliplier which one better?..Here's my AN8 SLI doing 400HTT http://lp.pcmoddingmy.com/albums/userpics/...8SLI/400HTT.jpg |
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Jan 15 2006, 05:31 PM
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QUOTE(newbieockids @ Jan 15 2006, 05:08 PM) 400HTT @ 4 multiplier with 200HTT @ 8 muliplier which one better?.. Of coz 8x multi is better lah..... faster CPU clock speed is better..... The reason I used 4x multi is to see how high can i push my AN8 SLI... |
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Jan 15 2006, 05:36 PM
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QUOTE(pcmoddingmy @ Jan 15 2006, 05:31 PM) Of coz 8x multi is better lah..... faster CPU clock speed is better..... its the same speed rite?.. 4*400 = 1.6Ghz.. 200*8 = 1.6Ghz.. The reason I used 4x multi is to see how high can i push my AN8 SLI... |
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Jan 15 2006, 07:15 PM
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QUOTE(jarofclay @ Jan 15 2006, 02:54 PM) Wow, at 345!! What RAM divider you're using? i dont remember the divider my latest test with my baby venice but for sure not stable (icuteku yang semakin weng ) divider ?? i set my ram FSB to 133.. what divider arr ?? i only know 1:1 |
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Jan 15 2006, 07:20 PM
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QUOTE(wadieq @ Jan 15 2006, 07:15 PM) i dont remember the divider u set ur ram to 133 that is also divider dude.. my latest test with my baby venice but for sure not stable (icuteku yang semakin weng )divider ?? i set my ram FSB to 133.. what divider arr ?? i only know 1:1 more 6:5/4:3 and so on depends on the system.. |
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Jan 15 2006, 07:24 PM
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oOo ok.. tq.. see my VCORE
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Jan 15 2006, 07:24 PM
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QUOTE(newbieockids @ Jan 15 2006, 05:36 PM) its the same speed rite?.. 4*400 = 1.6Ghz.. 200*8 = 1.6Ghz.. If the clock speed is the same, it will depend on the memory speed.I was running the RAM at 267MHz... so 4x400 should be faster than the 200x8... and also the HTT (FSB) is running faster. But I can't confirm this until I test it out properly.... |
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Jan 15 2006, 07:27 PM
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QUOTE(wadieq @ Jan 15 2006, 07:24 PM) oOo ok.. tq.. see my VCORE Is your venice stable at 2.7GHz with that Vcore?I can only get mine stable at 2.6GHz on AN8 SLI. It used to do 2.7GHz at 1.68V on nF3 U-D. |
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QUOTE(pcmoddingmy @ Jan 15 2006, 07:24 PM) If the clock speed is the same, it will depend on the memory speed. ya im also curious on that.. I was running the RAM at 267MHz... so 4x400 should be faster than the 200x8... and also the HTT (FSB) is running faster. But I can't confirm this until I test it out properly.... will doing some test if got time.. |
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Jan 15 2006, 07:28 PM
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What RAM are you using? Is it 2GB kit? If yes, could you run it at 1T?
QUOTE(pcmoddingmy @ Jan 15 2006, 07:24 PM) If the clock speed is the same, it will depend on the memory speed. I was running the RAM at 267MHz... so 4x400 should be faster than the 200x8... and also the HTT (FSB) is running faster. But I can't confirm this until I test it out properly.... |
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QUOTE(pcmoddingmy @ Jan 15 2006, 07:27 PM) Is your venice stable at 2.7GHz with that Vcore? stable if 300 x 9 but not stable with 340 x 8 I can only get mine stable at 2.6GHz on AN8 SLI. It used to do 2.7GHz at 1.68V on nF3 U-D. |
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Jan 15 2006, 07:45 PM
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pass super pi and memtest .. can run 3dmark but dont prime it |
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Jan 16 2006, 01:14 AM
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1,377 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Nothing special
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why sudently my mobo cannot on and the timing for the seven segment display show at 8.3 ??????
happen to me just now and need me to clear my bios to on it again |
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Jan 16 2006, 01:19 AM
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498 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Ipoh, Perak
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QUOTE(jarofclay @ Jan 15 2006, 07:28 PM) What RAM are you using? Is it 2GB kit? If yes, could you run it at 1T? The screenie was with 2x256MB at 1T, but it doesnt matter as the RAM was running at lower divider when I did the 400HTT.Currently running 2x1GB kit at 1T (220MHz). My 3500LLPRO 2x1GB can do up to 250-255MHz at 1T on this mobo. 1T with this mobo will only start to kick in at 270HTT-ish..... |
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Jan 16 2006, 01:31 AM
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1,372 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Sydney - Australia
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lol u lucky bugga.. mine won't do 1T past 231mhz when i tried it..
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Jan 16 2006, 02:45 AM
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QUOTE(babyelf @ Jan 16 2006, 01:31 AM) lol u lucky bugga.. mine won't do 1T past 231mhz when i tried it.. Yeah... maybe I'm lucky or maybe its my proc/BIOS/RAMHere's a screenie at 255MHz / 1T http://lp.pcmoddingmy.com/albums/userpics/...00LLPRO/255.jpg This post has been edited by pcmoddingmy: Jan 16 2006, 02:46 AM |
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Jan 16 2006, 01:29 PM
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2,068 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Ipoh / Penang / PJ
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Yeah, I think it's really a case of variation as I manage to get 1T upto 250Mhz. More than that an I will have to be careful with it as it will run into random crashes especially during heavy load.
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Jan 19 2006, 04:23 PM
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328 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: KL
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having a lil bit of a problem here. falshed to bios 19, and post screen shows only 1022mb of rams. anyone else having this problem? when flashed back to bios 18, the ram is back to 1024. is it just me or everybody is having the problem? help please. thanks in advance.
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Jan 19 2006, 09:33 PM
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2,068 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Ipoh / Penang / PJ
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Didn't see that on my board. Using D43 KVR.
QUOTE(Fries @ Jan 19 2006, 04:23 PM) having a lil bit of a problem here. falshed to bios 19, and post screen shows only 1022mb of rams. anyone else having this problem? when flashed back to bios 18, the ram is back to 1024. is it just me or everybody is having the problem? help please. thanks in advance. |
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