how much is the abit fatality?

fatality an8 sli nf4 ultra around rm800

why? whats the problem with the vdimm?

i dont think u need to change ur mobo just to get a better spec than u dont think u gonna use it

no offence to abit users or fans.. but DFI also using high quality capacitor and pcb...

i was a dfi lanparty nforce 4 sli d user and sold it because thinking of upgrading. then after a few weeks using my old pentium 4 rig, i bought abit fatal1ty an8 sli coz of hand itchy

what i can say in terms of overclocking is DFI is better because of its wide range of setting, and when i oc with abit, somehow i feel sthing is missing in the bios.. and when running benchies, the score is less than what i got with the same setting with DFI.

but in general use, as a student who use the same rig for assignments, i can say abit is better since i have never ever experience cold boot .. DFI nforce 4 is well known for this problem but not everyone experience it.. too bad i was unlucky with my board. and this DFI is board is very very choosy with ram.. cheapo ram wont run good with this board.. unlike abit which is more flexible towards ram compatibility.

i'm not suprise all reviews said that DFI is the best nforce 4 board since i myself also think that is true. but what i wanna say here the reviewers tested the board just for a few days or maybe some 2-3 weeks only and they wont have chance to experience any instability problem.
i used the board since march and the cold boot problem only appeared in july..

and i love to quote what i found in kelvin_hata signature :



DFI got a lot of problems, but still no other board can compete with it in oc..


owh n 1 more thing, i guess high htt shows what the board is capable off.. no matter at what speed ur ram is running.. just my 2 cents

This post has been edited by irenic: Aug 6 2005, 12:53 AM

the problem with my DFI was only the cold boot. beside that, all were perfect. i did a review and found out that my problem wasnt the normal cold boot problem. in my case, all the 4 led's were blinking and i found in one website ( either xs or overclockers.com .. not remember) they called it 4 leds of death.. meaning the board is dying hehe..
its weird becoz most of them who have the same problem are using high voltage ram.. but i was using ocz rev2 which is tccd chipset and i nvr go beyond 2.8 (2.9 in some cases).. even when i wasnt oc my system, everytime i switched off it took me at least half an hour to switch it on again..
i also very seldom switched on the pc since i stay in hostel and the electricity is free but one morning i wanted to restart the pc but instead of pressed the restart button, i pressed the shut down button.. then i never ever able to switch on my system again hehe.. so i changed to a new board at alphamatic system and straight away selling it. that time i sold it becoz i was thinking to wait for DFI crossfire and use my p4 rig for a while..
but one thing is i still prefer DFI for oc purpose. Since using this abit i never do serious oc although my 3dmark got higher score than what i got with my DFI hehe..
about the ram compatibility, i heard that DFI wont run well with value ram or d43 ram... my current abit works perfect with my ocz rev2 tccd and patriot d43 chipset..


This post has been edited by irenic: Aug 7 2005, 02:45 AM

i'm not sure bout the DFI uncompatibility with value ram since the only ram i had paired with my DFI was tccd chipset ..Corsair XL (tccd), Gskill LF (tccd), and OCZ rev2 (also tccd) hehe.. i just said what i read in other forum..
DFI is indeed a better board in oc.. it cant be compared with abit or other board. maybe the current bios is good, which fixed all the problems that never be solved during my time with DFI .. or maybe i just unlucky to get a suck board.. i never ever manage to solve my 4 leds problem even using the tips given by other pro in overseas forum..
i really hope DFI will fixed every problem since i am targeting their crossfire board for my next rig hehe

This post has been edited by irenic: Aug 7 2005, 09:54 PM

after spending some hours playing with this an8 bios, i notice it has problem when running more than 227 htt @ 1T ram.. the system wont boot into windows unless i change the command rate to 2T..
sigh

both tccd & d43 have same problem.. anyone manage to solve it?

edited:: i tested using bios 13, 15 & 16. & i cant find any difference between bios 15 & 16..

This post has been edited by irenic: Aug 8 2005, 01:03 AM

hmm one more thing.. why abit temperature so high aa? on water uguru reported my sandy's temp at 44 idle.. but my hardcano 13 shows the temp is 28.. last time with my DFI my sandy idle at 33C only..

is there any bios or version of uguru that fix this temperature problem?

is this a well known issue? hopefully abit will release a bios that have accurate temp reading..

i dont think top overclockers do need the uguru

yups... i flashed it yesterday and so far i can say this is the best bios for this board. Sadly still cant solve the 1T issue.. In terms of temperature reading, i'm not sure whether Abit just simply minus 10C from temp in previous bios.. but my temp now is the correct one, 29 idle n around 38 full load at stock vcore. (almost same with my hardcano 13 and same with what my previous DFI lanparty reported)

hmm first of all plz tell ur current specs.. and Fyi, i also flashed using winflash that comes with DFI lanparty board

hmm maybe a bad flash? i never experience it but i guess maybe u can try flash again using winflash?

I also dunno whats the diff between 1T n 2T in theory, but what i know is 1T gives more performance than 2T.

U can change it in advanced chipset configuration in bios and in the ram setting at the bottom got command rate ( u can choose either auto, 1T or 2T ; default is auto)

an8 has prob with 1T if u r using either venice or sandy. I think clawhammer or newcastle dont have this prob..

i guess the problem only occurs with either venice or sandy processor

erm i never experienced that.. but i always disable the automatic fan control for both OTES so that the fans will keep spinning no matter what the temp is..

then maybe the problem comes with sandy btw, not all having the same problem. thats good u all manage to go high with 1T, some dont even can run 1T at default setting.. Mine can do up to 220fsb 1T.. more than that must use 2T.

DFI lanparty series = super oc board. got many settings in bios to play with. easy to get supports /advice from experts from all over the world (forum). Quite sensitive with ram, especially the value ram. It can be very stable, or very not stable, like cold boot, or 4 leds of death (depends on ur luck & other hardware)

ABIT an8 = Great stability. Flexible with a lot of ram, from value ram to high performance ram. Limited setting in bios. Nice oc board, but u'll lose a few Mhz of oc compared to DFI.

ASUS a8n = I'm not sure bout this board, but quite a lot of people manage to get a good result with it.

It's all ur choice