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 PROTON SAGA BLMCLUB V11, version eleven

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post Sep 24 2010, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(xshiro @ Sep 24 2010, 04:41 PM)
dunno last time 3-4k can get ady..now maybe only engine lantai can get with that price
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QUOTE(torresism @ Sep 25 2010, 09:03 PM)
better do the firewall part ... doh.gif
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Do firewall not as easy as you thought. doh.gif not only dismantle dashboard, but all the aircon piping and wiring as well. I will only do that if one day the cooling coil need to change, else i will just leave it.

Anyway, today done the floor sound proof, and i get the satisfying result, next month will do 3 layer front door sound proof.

And yes, after sound deadening on floor, the engine sound is more obvious now, but still better than those damn road and tyre noise. smile.gif

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post Sep 26 2010, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(muslayer @ Sep 26 2010, 05:23 PM)
PLEASE DUN DRIVE SO FAST. CAR ARE MEANT FOR TRANSPORTATION
PLEASE DUN END UP LIKE THIS!!!
http://ondscene.my/kemalangan/dakapan-proton-saga-blm
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Looks like the lamp post is so stiff. sweat.gif

The engine seems intact, who want free half cut might look for it. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(klk89 @ Sep 28 2010, 10:02 PM)
Hi people. Tomorrow I will be doing my 20K major service. What are the estimated cost and stuff that they will change? I am clueless everytime I went for major service. Because I don't know what stuff they normally change. One note, my IAFM suddenly don't have sound anymore. Should I address it to the SC people?  hmm.gif
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No need to address anything, becos they will listen and say 'ur IAFM tak de masalah, tunggu lebih bising baru tukar'. They won't simply change it based on what you say to them.
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post Sep 29 2010, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(torresism @ Sep 29 2010, 04:46 PM)
expensive... doh.gif air filter is not dirty no need to change, brake fluid I never changed, my car clocked 55k km mileage now, battery water?our battery can add water meh? doh.gif


Added on September 29, 2010, 4:48 pm
woah...rm574 for 20k service, more expensive than nissan car service,  doh.gif

labour rm100 is really ridiculous.. doh.gif service blower motor and filter is what?why u need it?
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Thats why i gave up the warranty in order to skip this unnecessary 'major' service. It's non sense, only 20k, change spark plug, air filter, brake fluid and manual gear box oil, and the most ridiculous, RM100 labour fees shakehead.gif ...i wanna ask was there any abnormal encountered before the service? The answer is definitely NO. Do it because the warranty, hell no to me. doh.gif

Service blower and filter is no more than clean the dust. shakehead.gif

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post Sep 29 2010, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(labtec @ Sep 29 2010, 09:49 PM)
want to ask about on the fuel consumption
is proton blm fuel consumption is better compare to myvi?
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Where you heard about this? shocking.gif doh.gif
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post Oct 6 2010, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(alan kc @ Oct 6 2010, 08:14 PM)
wan to ask,is it got huge different between 15" and 16" in acceleration and fuel consumption??
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As long as the weight is more or less (include tyre) same as Ori, the FC will not affected much. But the tyre size is important, if ur overall wheel size is larger than Ori, then the acceleration and FC will be affected.
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post Oct 7 2010, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(erictioh @ Oct 7 2010, 03:29 PM)
I only did 3 times free labour service + 1 time major service that cost rm RM 500+ back in 1 years ago and i'm not bothering going back to those unprofessional and expensive service anymore. So can i still go back in sudden to claim for the IAFM ? haha..

I don't think they will bother me now, and the money i save for being SUCK by proton is more than 800 per year, and it's time to spend some to replace certain part.
Then called proton spare part center and they're selling the whole iafm module at Rm 250. How much workshop will charge ?


Added on October 7, 2010, 3:32 pmAdding more, i have changed the IAFM module before and that was foc. After that not more than 5 months the sound comes back and fuel consumption increase. Now my AUTO BLM FC is 250-280 full tank.
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Added on October 7, 2010, 3:45 pm
QUOTE(xshiro @ Oct 7 2010, 03:39 PM)
erictioh,labour is quite affordable, mostly i heard is rm100 for installation (i think any workshop can do it)

you have another option, put old gen2 intake manifold, (selling as secondhand at cheap at 100-150) very reliable (steel material), lower fc..but sacrifice low end torque...i think this will solve your problem forever.,.. tongue.gif
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Now the low end torque adi suck, if change to gen2 one ma getting worst. Not recommended la.

No torque = Heavy foot = high FC, at the end, nothing gain but lose.

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post Oct 7 2010, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(erictioh @ Oct 7 2010, 04:16 PM)
haha ask 1st, see can do or not.. tongue.gif


Added on October 7, 2010, 4:33 pm

Yeah you have got the same problem. It's IAFM module's problem
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Actually depends la, want to change it or not. If FC not affected, i won't bother to fix it, now my car also got, only idle can hear, after step in throttle no more. Maybe mine one not so serious compare to yours.


Added on October 7, 2010, 8:14 pm
QUOTE(erictioh @ Oct 7 2010, 04:03 PM)
Haha.. give me 5  rclxm9.gif

Not only money matters, every time i go HQ have to take 1 days leave, sitting there like a headless chicken keep waiting and waiting until the end of the day.

Changed to visit authorized SC, still need about 3 hours just for changing oil and filter, then keep noising about "If you don't change spark plug, coolant later you car got prob we cannot responsible". Now i responsible for my own car, stop sucking my money tongue.gif.

Every time i bought eneos semi 5-30w + oil filter + Labour = RM 110, it's much better than psyntium semi. Spark plug changed to iridium where it can last for 100k. I chose toyota radiator coolant at spare part shop at RM 20 only (Can last for 40k), do it myself rather than being charged Rm 25 for those tesco like tin brand of coolant that proton SC sells
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Sometime what they said is like cheating 3 years old kid. tongue.gif


Added on October 7, 2010, 8:15 pm
QUOTE(xshiro @ Oct 7 2010, 03:49 PM)
drive like aunty la...then ok la...
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Drive like aunty still better than remove IAFM. tongue.gif

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post Oct 8 2010, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(omara86 @ Oct 8 2010, 07:52 AM)
wanna ask... my blm is 9 month old... when i'm doing >100km/h and >4k rpm... bunyi like sumthing bukak, but the sound is windy, hissing sound... is it normal? no prob with performance, only takut with that kind of sound...

btw is there any source of spoilt iafm sound? example like youtube video or sound clip... coz i never face this kind of prob so wanna know how to determine the prob if i face it later... thx
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Normal. This is IAFM suckin air sound, especially after 4k, hssssssss...it mainly penetrate from your side mudguard (if u open the front door u will notice inside the mudguard is empty and can see through the wheel fender)...only soundproofing can help.

I did sound proof for this part last week, now engine noise and tyre noise reduced noticeable.


Added on October 8, 2010, 11:01 am
QUOTE(xshiro @ Oct 8 2010, 09:15 AM)
agree with bolded part, i drive viva temporarily now, iafm sound is nothing comparing to viva engine sound..hehe. tongue.gif
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Viva engine sound suppose is queit and nicer to listen compare to campro, no? tongue.gif


Added on October 8, 2010, 11:02 am
QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Oct 8 2010, 09:54 AM)
Maybe you should get one of those neck rest thingies. It might just work.
I keep forgetting your car is in the workshop. No expected date for getting back your car?

How's the Viva, btw?
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i bet he is feel like he is now drive the car with the wheel made by wood or steel. Bumpy like hell. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(milenia98 @ Oct 8 2010, 05:01 PM)
want to ask. how much %tage of visible light transmission of BLM stock tint?
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No spec stated and no one bother that.

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post Oct 9 2010, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(dagreatdzul @ Oct 9 2010, 01:54 PM)
i did the tint double layer...
stock tint + 1 more layer of tint.ehehe
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You will regret later.

I don't know why you guys do that.

Try to think about that, when you want to paint your house wall, would you wash/tear the old one before you apply new paint?

Imagine the stock tint start to get bubble after few months later, and become blurry after a year, then your good tint will gone as well.

Hope your 2nd tint is not the branded expensive tint, else good luck to you.
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QUOTE(ahseng917 @ Oct 9 2010, 04:13 PM)
Today I did my 3rd service at Proton Service Centre for ard RM150+, but I was shocked when they told me 4rd service (20k) will cost me ard RM500+ (nearly RM600), including changing manual gear oil.

Is it real that 20k service cost that much for manual saga? Another doubt is if I go to Proton Authorized Service Centre (Not the Proton Service Centre)  for servicing, warranty will be voided or not?

Since it is 20k service, shud b 10k from now, but why the service sticker still written 5k from now?
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Ask yourself is the warranty so important to you?

If no then go to service outside, the money you save is enough to fix the warranted part. 20k at outside is just the normal service, semi sync oil+filter only RM110. Those spark plug (30k-40k), manual gear oil (40k-50k) , air filter (depends, if very dirty only need to change, mine now 25k still unchanged), brake fluid (as long as it doesn't leak) is all unnecessary, and mind you the labour charge itself adi cost you RM100, non sense.

Don't even think yourself can negotiate with them those items no need to change, they will tell you warranty will void if not follow the list.

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QUOTE(h4dRi @ Oct 9 2010, 04:34 PM)
just want to confirm with b-line(A) owner,

Auto gear console dont have any light on it letters even after switch on lamp?
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not only B-line, all Saga BLM auto gear console don't have light.
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QUOTE(h4dRi @ Oct 9 2010, 04:56 PM)
oic.. so, have any of u guys here had installed light bulb there, quite challenging for first time driver driving the car at night  doh.gif
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I think normal driving most often just change from N to D or vise-versa, plus the indicator at the meter panel.
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QUOTE(enCORe @ Oct 9 2010, 08:27 PM)
saga is very suprising!, yesterday when I return from workplaces my fuel meter blinking and still running after45km!

Im very worried coz I never find couldnt find any petrol station (Mex highway) ...
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Don't worry, it can tahan 60+ km
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QUOTE(cyrusdidi @ Oct 9 2010, 09:45 PM)
doh.gif gosh, i didn't ask them to tear of the sides and the back stock tint b4 applying security tint. Hopefully wont be that bad huh?
windscreen just one layer cox the stock tint on the windscreen previously has a small hole so already been removed.  sweat.gif
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Now my stock tint is not very clear compare to new, can see from the reflective light, only one year, nearly everyday under sun from 8am - 5pm.


Added on October 9, 2010, 10:13 pm
QUOTE(Enclave Recruit @ Oct 9 2010, 10:07 PM)
The fuel indicator will usually illuminate very early (roughly around 1/3 of the last fuel bar utilized). In other words, you still have 2/3 of fuel left. Do not worry.

Personally, I still prefer a proper FUEL GAUGE as it gives a better indication of how much fuel is available rather than a lousy paranoid electronic fuel bar. Cost-cutting is a b**** ain't it.
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2/3? 1/4 only la....you can try it, when start blinking, you max can inject 30L only. (full is 40L).

Personally i like this type of meter rather than those needle one, at least hassle free for Proton quality.

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QUOTE(cyrusdidi @ Oct 9 2010, 10:19 PM)
just hope that the sides and rear wont have bubbles come out, else I will be crying over to remove them all along with the aftermarket tint. icon_question.gif
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Good luck to you, the possibility is there, especially the rear one.

I wonder how the aftermarket tint installer give you warranty? if let say the stock tint inside got bubble, how u going to claim? Of course Proton won't bother u, and there is not the 2nd tint fault. Or if the 2nd tint got bubble? they might say is the stock tint fault.

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QUOTE(blackmarket @ Oct 9 2010, 10:36 PM)
hi guys. wanna ask, for auto and manual blm, is there a HUGE different in term of power/torque/speed etc? i personally prefer manual coz i have been driving manual all the while but my dad recommend me to get auto due to kl traffic..
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Auto is better to drive at KL, but FC is damn suck. Manual BLM can feel the aircon compressor kick-in very obvious, which will make 1~2 gear feel jerky, not comfortable for traffic jam driving, but FC wise and power is better, so u choose.

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QUOTE(izdyharz @ Oct 10 2010, 01:09 AM)
Last time I tested from fuel light blinking until my car cannot move at all and engine died i got around 45KM. My car is auto with aircond turn on. But didnt drive on highway lar. Called insurance to tow my car.

Btw, I tinted my car using Tint Master, kena like rm1600 for this:
http://www.tintmaster.com.my/product_T-Diamond_black.html

But, even during not so hot day, after I left it like 2,3 hours inside my car still feels hot like not using tint at all. Crazy.
Not recommended at all!!!!
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You made a non sense accusation. doh.gif

You won't find a tint that can make your car cool under sun even for just <1 hour.

Tint can block certain percentage of infrared into the cabin, but how about the metal body of the car itself? Do you think your car metal is 'heat proof'?

Expect your car is cool after 2-3 hours under sun is totally noob. shakehead.gif



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