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 The Z Residence @ Bukit Jalil, Another project by Trinity Group

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post Apr 9 2011, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Apr 9 2011, 11:20 AM)
Investing in property (especially for new project) involve some risks, risk of uncertainty, no one can tell what would the final result. However as an home buyer or investor, the more research we do, the clearer the pictures is, the chances of making mistake is minimized.
Unlike stock mkt, real estate in trading "Tangible" products, so long the location is ease of "accessible", and no matter how bad is the economy, if you can hold on to certain period, you will be able redeem back yr investment.
Bout the JJ proposal, seems like nothing concrete yet, but I alwiz think like this, if JJ is not coming, and imagine if you are the land owner who owns the 21 acres of land (where the LRT station and the car parks sitting on), what would you do with the remaining 70% of the empty land? Next to KESAS...
just for reference, The entire Mid Valley cities (Mid Valley, Hotels, The Garden, Office Block, Apts, roads  etc) occupying 50 acres of land only, so 21 acres is in fact very very big, some more with the futures supply of new condos amounting to 8000 units in vicinity areas, this area will be packed with average middle to high income consumer group.
If the land owner do not take the advantage of positioning themselves into this growing mkt, then he/she must be gila aleli.. rclxub.gif proposing something like JJ / Mall is definitely a right move...not likely build terrace hses (low profit), not likely to build condos (oversupply), shops (possible but no concept)
The best for this land is to build something like SV or Sunway Giza type of Complex, be positive towards the future of BJ, land is scarce biggrin.gif
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i always like to read yr analysis post so much bro
logical, reasonable and supported by fact & research data

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post Apr 9 2011, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(Garmin_GPS @ Apr 9 2011, 05:07 PM)
i always like to read yr analysis post so much bro
logical, reasonable and supported by fact & research data

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Dun mention. we know we share, we dunno we learn.
does anyone of us ever think that, The Treez, KM1, KR, Z Residence, R Residence, Parklane Bosses would alwiz play golf or mahjong together? why these projects are launched at the same time at the same place? The price is one higher than the other?
Developers are not always rivals, could be unite conglomerate to slaughter the house buyers.... vmad.gif

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post Apr 9 2011, 05:36 PM

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bro ufo

quote yr statement
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For condo density, I use 2 indicators to decide :
1. How many condos built on 1 acre of land
2. How many condo / apt per lift

Anything below 200 units per acre I will consider low density
Anything below 70 condos/lift (in one block0 I will consider low density


the statement 2 not reli understand...
can u elaborate wat "70 condos/lift in one block0" mean?

This post has been edited by Garmin_GPS: Apr 9 2011, 05:37 PM
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post Apr 9 2011, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(Garmin_GPS @ Apr 9 2011, 05:36 PM)
bro ufo

quote yr statement
the statement 2 not reli understand...
can u elaborate  wat "70 condos/lift in one block0" mean?
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Look at The Z Residence, Block A 335 units (3 lifts), average 112 units / lift. average

The Treez - 135 units / block = 3 lift (+1 lift for loading goods), average 45 units / lift

the lower the better, maintenance will be lower as well

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post Apr 9 2011, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Apr 9 2011, 05:56 PM)
Look at The Z Residence, Block A 335 units (3 lifts), average 112 units / lift. average

The Treez - 135 units / block = 3 lift (+1 lift for loading goods), average 45 units / lift

the lower the better, maintenance will be lower as well
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Hi UFO-ET, agree with u that lower unit/lift ratio is better, means less waiting time for lift... but that also means higher maintenance as less units to share the maintenance fee...
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post Apr 9 2011, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(shanged @ Apr 9 2011, 10:00 AM)
taikor, i think ur statement the other way right ... shud be "yr statement is maybe for an investor, but not for a home seeker" ?
else I cannot think of the logic le ..
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u have not seriously look into property investment, dats y u dun understand the simple logic. suggest u to take out yr calculator and review back one propery history, then press yr calculator to look for investment opportunity. u can roughly know wats the different between new n old development in investment.

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post Apr 9 2011, 10:50 PM

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Today try searching the actual site location found that the ZR location really not impress me. There is not access at all wonder future how to go out? what i can see is the current we need bypass the factory before reach. those already made booking have your doing enough research??
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post Apr 9 2011, 11:22 PM

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Bro, notice that you always harp on the same old things. Property expensive la .. access not there la .. you cant expect gov to spoon feed you with good property to your lap right? Gotta take some risk too.

Lets put it this way, its no access in place yet else it would be BJ price.
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post Apr 9 2011, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(1ullaby @ Apr 10 2011, 12:22 AM)
Bro, notice that you always harp on the same old things. Property expensive la .. access not there la .. you cant expect gov to spoon feed you with good property to your lap right? Gotta take some risk too.

Lets put it this way, its no access in place yet else it would be BJ price.
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Agree and developer not that stupid until spoil thier reputation, As i know, Trinity group still got few empty land in Klang Valley.
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well.. today i went to spoke to the SA again and got to know one of the proposed link is actually build by trinity group themselves.. +1 point for this..

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QUOTE(jellyjelly @ Apr 10 2011, 12:22 AM)
well.. today i went to spoke to the SA again and got to know one of the proposed link is actually build by trinity group themselves.. +1 point for this..
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Yup. This one will link to the Bukit Jalil Expressway...maybe around 5 mins to the Trinity Sales Office. That is one plus point seriously.

But when they are going to do it, still clueless. That one link to the Jalan 155B is already started anyways.

Hope JJ development dream will come true also.... tongue.gif


Added on April 10, 2011, 12:36 am
QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Apr 9 2011, 05:56 PM)
Look at The Z Residence, Block A 335 units (3 lifts), average 112 units / lift. average

The Treez - 135 units / block = 3 lift (+1 lift for loading goods), average 45 units / lift

the lower the better, maintenance will be lower as well
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That's really true...hopefully Trinity will slot in a super-fast lift...like ZOOM up and ZOOM down.

Hehe. I'm on 23A floor anyways. nod.gif

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post Apr 10 2011, 12:46 AM

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[quote=greeny88,Apr 10 2011, 12:34 AM]
Yup. This one will link to the Bukit Jalil Expressway...maybe around 5 mins to the Trinity Sales Office. That is one plus point seriously.

But when they are going to do it, still clueless. That one link to the Jalan 155B is already started anyways.

Hope JJ development dream will come true also.... tongue.gif

paiseh a.. what is JJ development? something like a mall? well ZR location wise is not too bad if there's opening of roads.. welcome neighbour! i'm at 17th floor!
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[quote=jellyjelly,Apr 10 2011, 12:46 AM]
[quote=greeny88,Apr 10 2011, 12:34 AM]
Yup. This one will link to the Bukit Jalil Expressway...maybe around 5 mins to the Trinity Sales Office. That is one plus point seriously.

But when they are going to do it, still clueless. That one link to the Jalan 155B is already started anyways.

Hope JJ development dream will come true also.... tongue.gif

paiseh a.. what is JJ development? something like a mall? well ZR location wise is not too bad if there's opening of roads.. welcome neighbour! i'm at 17th floor!
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JJ = should be Jaya Jusco I suppose. tongue.gif

17th is a nice floor! Which type? A, B, C, D, E?

Staying with husband? Parents?
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post Apr 10 2011, 12:55 AM

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smallest unit c1.. haha staying with future hubby to be.. LOL
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post Apr 10 2011, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(mature @ Apr 9 2011, 10:39 PM)
u have not seriously look into property investment, dats y u dun understand the simple logic. suggest u to take out yr calculator and review back one propery history, then press yr calculator to look for investment opportunity. u can roughly know wats the different between new n old development in investment.
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Err.. sometimes the line between invest/stay is quite thin. Just to clarify, i was referring to both generally.. blush.gif
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post Apr 10 2011, 11:17 AM

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If the investor cant sell he becomes the stayer, if the stayer gets a good price he becomes an investor biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(1ullaby @ Apr 10 2011, 11:17 AM)
If the investor cant sell he becomes the stayer, if the stayer gets a good price he becomes an investor  biggrin.gif
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Haha.. yes yes, someone called it accidental flipper.
I am going to become an accidental stayer soon unsure.gif
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post Apr 10 2011, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(1ullaby @ Apr 10 2011, 11:17 AM)
If the investor cant sell he becomes the stayer, if the stayer gets a good price he becomes an investor  biggrin.gif
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good quote u hv u bro
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post Apr 10 2011, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Apr 9 2011, 05:56 PM)
Look at The Z Residence, Block A 335 units (3 lifts), average 112 units / lift. average

The Treez - 135 units / block = 3 lift (+1 lift for loading goods), average 45 units / lift

the lower the better, maintenance will be lower as well
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Hi UFO... I've just checked wth Z Residence, the number of units and density are as follows :
- Block A = 268 units / 3 lifts = 89 units per lift
- Block B = 335 units / 4 lifts = 84 units per lift

The 335 units actually refers to block B and the SA show me that the plan actually register it has having 4 lifts.
So, overall low density, ah?? hmm.gif


Added on April 10, 2011, 11:42 amOne of the main reasons Z Residence is selling like hot is because Trinity is selling the "Bukit Jalil address". Investment is only viable if it's bukit jalil and no one may even consider buying it if Z Residence address is "Bukit OUG, Old Klang Road". I, for one becomes a buyer because it's a property in Bukit Jalil. Now, the question is - Is it confirmed that Z Residence is gazetted as "Bukit Jalil". All its surrounding properties, Bukit OUG condo, etc are under "OUG, Old Klang Road". So, can Z Residence, and the other 2 development address be "Bukit Jalil" and has DBKL approved the address as Mukim Bukit Jalil? If they do, does it means Bukit OUG etc can also change their addresses to "Bukit Jalil"? It's funny considering that Bukit OUG condo is right next to the development. If fact it's near to the rest of "Bukit Jalil" than this new development.

So, any taikor here can confirm that the postal address for Z Residence is going to be "..., Bukit Jalil, 57000 Kuala Lumpur"? Or do we need to wait when the S&P is ready to confirm that Z residence is really under Mukim Bukit Jalil? Afterall, it's up to DBKL and NOT Trinity whether this property is "Z Residence, Bukit Jalil" or "Z Residence, Bukit OUG".

Anyone??

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post Apr 10 2011, 11:42 AM

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Lol ... that how we play around with figures eh.

For investors/flippers theres only one figure only, the total unit count, coz that will be the competition upon VP.

The other figures make more sense for home buyers.

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