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Group LYN Buddhism Retreat - SERIOUS TALK, No trolling please

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soul2soul
post Aug 18 2010, 12:36 PM

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So how does the 4 noble truths and attaining of Cessation of Suffering (nibbana) fit into falun Dafa?

what does falun dara says about the 4 noble truths? any meditation instructions?


8 fold path

1. Right View
2. Right Intention
3. Right Speech
4. Right Action
5. Right Livelihood
6. Right Effort
7. Right Mindfulness
8. Right Concentration


oh yea, Zstan, back to our long discussion... tell me what you understgand about the 8 fold path. This is the FUNDAMENTAL of buddha's teaching.

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post Aug 18 2010, 12:54 PM

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i know Lee's lotus 8 fold path
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post Aug 18 2010, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Aug 18 2010, 11:52 AM)
LOL. what tradition are you from if I may ask?
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if i say that i'm in vajrayana what would you say?

however what i study covers both theravarda and mahayana. the key points are still there.
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post Aug 18 2010, 01:11 PM

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hmmm i tot joe is malay ... are u a chinese? or indian?
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post Aug 18 2010, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(Deimos Tel`Arin @ Aug 18 2010, 12:33 PM)
hmmm perhaps you are right, i thought they are related.
maybe i should re-read the book again to seek better understanding.

source: http://www.falundafa.org/book/eng/pdf/zfl_en.pdf

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See - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falun_Gong

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alun Gong (alternatively Falun Dafa) is a system of beliefs and practices founded in China by Li Hongzhi in 1992. The practice emerged at the end of China's "qigong boom", a period of growth and popularity of similar practices. Falun Gong differs from other qigong schools in its absence of daily rituals of worship,[1] its greater emphasis on morality, and the theological nature of its teachings.[2][3] Western academics have described Falun Gong as a "spiritual movement" based on the teachings of its founder[4], a "cultivation system" in the tradition of Chinese antiquity,[5] and sometimes a new religious movement (NRM). Falun Gong places a heavy emphasis on morality in its central tenets - Truthfulness, Compassion, and Forbearance (Chinese: 真、善、忍).[6] Its teachings are derived from qigong, Buddhist and Taoist concepts.[5][7][8][9]


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post Aug 18 2010, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(Joey-kun @ Aug 18 2010, 01:08 PM)
if i say that i'm in vajrayana what would you say?

however what i study covers both theravarda and mahayana. the key points are still there.
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Same principles, but like you said before, the emphasis is actually quite different.

Even among the theravada countries, the Thai don't stress so much on Ahbidhamma, but the Burmese monks have to study them. Attended some pujas presided by Tibetan monks in the past smile.gif

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post Aug 18 2010, 02:00 PM

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Joe is Chinese la. Why all want to ask wan. lol
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post Aug 18 2010, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(entryman @ Aug 14 2010, 05:29 PM)
I don't call myself a Buddhist by the way. I just call myself a Buddhist when there is a need to fit in, such as social groups that preach so heavily on it, or in registration forms to facilitate ease of registration and conform to social ideologies. I actually learn a lot from Hinduism too, because I've frequently been exposed to it. Haven't really been exposed to Islam and Christianity, but I really don't mind learning too, if it is suitable or easily comprehensible.
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True thing learning other religion is not about hybird religion knowledge and become a fanatic talker. Its also as solving puzzle as some part cannot fit in and some can fit in to the brain knowledge. Don't just learn 1 thing while there is a chance to learn all.

I'm a free thinker spiritual type & mostly close to Buddhist. Believe in teaching & training for perfection not by just believe, if really just believe it will gives no where point at all. What I think most important that is harvest knowledge as much as you can. I bet all god or buddha won't be enlighten at their first life.

To talk about supernatural, of course there are many wonderful things we can do but sadly as Einstein said human just using his/her brain 10% only. So how can we unlock the other 90%? That's why must keep on finding & meditating. I might sounds crazy typing this but still I need to do what must I do.
QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Aug 14 2010, 08:55 PM)
<<somehow saying buddhism is teaching is misleading>>

Honey to someone is poison to others.  If this does not work for you, do something else.

Fundamentally, Buddhism believe that all the answers are WITHING us. We do not have to look outside to get it.  Now, how do you reach enlightenment, there are many ways.  Pick the one that works for you.
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Hard way is finding by your eyes, ear, nose, foot, hand. Easy way is sit down meditate using brain and heart to reach spirit.
QUOTE(gogo2 @ Aug 15 2010, 12:00 AM)
Now who want to belief such stuff? ONly religionist will belief.For me, as atheist, its all in the mind. You mind have trick you to belief
all this supernatural things is real...
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The brain is always against you and creating some crazy imagination example: when you scared. To overcome that is you are the only 1 can control your own brain and heart. Real thing is You,The Brain and The Heart never work together. Try find a way to control brain and heart. There's no easy job since we can't even control our self fully 100%.
QUOTE(gogo2 @ Aug 15 2010, 12:29 AM)
At least, Christian are totally honest about it. THey said we're supernatural. Need faith to understand.
But Buddhism instead tell us, hey, no supernatural. All philosophical. Yeah right.
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How honest do you know? How much faith to understand? Is everyone honest to you? And who ask you to believe while Buddha doesn't even want you to believe. Buddha never cheat except humans create or add misunderstanding knowledge.
QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 15 2010, 12:58 AM)
It's not just purely faith.
It's real live experience with God.
That is the difference.
Until so long, you still don't get it.
Sigh.
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Sealing faith end up no matter what other say, not they don't understand is actually they don't want to understand.
QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Aug 15 2010, 01:49 AM)
P.S.:  For a TRUE Buddhist, there is NO POINT in arguing with anyone.  If it works for you, choose this.  If not, do something else.  There are NO BROWNIE point for making people to believe in Buddhism.
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True, they never ask you must believe me. You believe when you WANT to believe me, (otherwise waste my time.) thumbup.gif
QUOTE(soul2soul @ Aug 15 2010, 09:51 AM)
I think they have a problem of buddhism being a creation of human but claiming to have the answer to the supernatural world. I still fail to see why they are upset with this.
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Being a low profile that doesn't show off. That's why they so upset when there nothing special about buddha cause low profile. And as for low profile doesn't mean they are nothing. If by just because show off power then they will join then its no point at all cause they mean to be greedy for power.

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whats mock vegetable meat i see in the supermarket
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QUOTE(Hamas @ Aug 18 2010, 04:14 PM)
whats mock vegetable meat i see in the supermarket
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Flour, starch, soy bean mix with a lot of MSG and other artificial non-meat-based flavouring.
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post Aug 18 2010, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(Hamas @ Aug 18 2010, 04:14 PM)
whats mock vegetable meat i see in the supermarket
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THey are not healthy. mostly added with lots of chemical to make them look like meat.


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post Aug 18 2010, 04:51 PM

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oh man...when i saw this thread, i couldn't help but clicking

but joe, why suddenly?
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post Aug 18 2010, 04:51 PM

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hello, wat is dharma? and some of u said buddism have god? is this true? i thought buddha only believe on greater power, not god and demon
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QUOTE(PVCpipe @ Aug 18 2010, 04:51 PM)
hello, wat is dharma? and some of u said buddism have god? is this true? i thought buddha only believe on greater power, not god and demon
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dharma = teachings of the Buddha

God? the ideology of god was mixed into the teachings of the Buddha when they tried to spread Buddhism into China, keyword, Taoism


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post Aug 18 2010, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Aug 15 2010, 09:06 PM)
You sounds hurt about Christianity.
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You sound like wanted to convert buddhist to christian but you failed. Don't burden yourself just do what you're doing in life. Everyone has his/her own path or road to walk. Busy body lol haha biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(dragynraken @ Aug 18 2010, 05:23 PM)
You sound like wanted to convert buddhist to christian but you failed. Don't burden yourself just do what you're doing in life. Everyone has his/her own path or road to walk. Busy body lol haha biggrin.gif
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for someone that talks so much bout meditation, you dont sound like one that has much composure
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post Aug 18 2010, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(dragynraken @ Aug 18 2010, 05:23 PM)
You sound like wanted to convert buddhist to christian but you failed. Don't burden yourself just do what you're doing in life. Everyone has his/her own path or road to walk. Busy body lol haha biggrin.gif
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I think that post was before this thread changed into a thread for Buddhism discussion.

All that is in the past now. Please move along.


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post Aug 18 2010, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Aug 18 2010, 05:45 PM)
I think that post was before this thread changed into a thread for Buddhism discussion. 

All that is in the past now.  Please move along.
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so...apa lu mau diskus?
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post Aug 18 2010, 05:56 PM

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have any of you guys thought about being a monk ? maybe short period ones...like in thai ...
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post Aug 18 2010, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(yeezai @ Aug 18 2010, 05:56 PM)
have any of you guys thought about being a monk ? maybe short period ones...like in thai ...
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you mean short term monastic life? (1 week or more)

or long term? (studies)

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