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Group LYN Buddhism Retreat - SERIOUS TALK, No trolling please

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zstan
post Jan 13 2012, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(chezzball @ Jan 13 2012, 10:28 AM)
coz when like at nite u kena sleep paralysis or so caled "ghost on top of u" then i say amitabha to like release it. but i sometime scold f words also can wohhh...
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QUOTE(hotjake @ Jan 13 2012, 10:34 AM)
it is not a ghost on top of you experience la, and amitabha or whatever has nothing to do in its cure. IT is a medical condition (forgot the name u go google) related to your brain and motor functions being temporarily disconnected from each other

not sure if you're trolling though  hmm.gif
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Sleep paralysis.
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post Jan 13 2012, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Jan 13 2012, 10:43 AM)
syadux3... how long you practice buddhism already?

btw, my teacher also told me certain kamma would arise in meditation too, so yogis are normally instructed to keep short fingernails, and don't sit at places where they might be exposed to danger like beside a stream, water, etc. Just in case evil kamma arise during meditation and ....
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erm... since form 3 i think? i'm 30. actually i was exposed much earlier but no effect on me except i grew up to be very skeptical & rebellious on things that do not conform logically which usually landed me in hot soup.

yes, it does arise in meditation, hence it is not advisable to meditate at those places you mentioned in the forest. u might see Petas too asking you for merits (serious)


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post Jan 13 2012, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(hotjake @ Jan 13 2012, 11:00 AM)
erm... since form 3 i think? i'm 30. actually i was exposed much earlier but no effect on me except i grew up to be very skeptical & rebellious on things that do not conform logically which usually landed me in hot soup.

yes, it does arise in meditation, hence it is not advisable to meditate at those places you mentioned in the forest. u might see Petas too asking you for merits (serious)
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Wow, any stories of petas manifesting asking for merits?
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post Jan 13 2012, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Jan 13 2012, 11:11 AM)
Wow, any stories of petas manifesting asking for merits?
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not me.. but got heard form others. tell u if we meet hahahaha... here not scary enough
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post Jan 13 2012, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(hotjake @ Jan 13 2012, 11:15 AM)
not me.. but got heard form others. tell u if we meet hahahaha... here not scary enough
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were the yogis terrified when the Petas manifest? But i heard from my teacher normally they don't dare disturb because our kamma protects us wor....

have you ever recited the protection suttas? those asking the generals of the cathumaharajika gods to aid those monks or upasakas who are being disturbed or possesed by the yakkhas?

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post Jan 13 2012, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Jan 13 2012, 11:21 AM)
were the yogis terrified when the Petas manifest? But i heard from my teacher normally they don't dare disturb because our kamma protects us wor....

have you ever recited the protection suttas? those asking the generals of the cathumaharajika gods to aid those monks or upasakas who are being disturbed or possesed by the yakkhas?
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of course terrified, imagine a peta who is 12 feet tall like a tree standing naked in front of you. they don dare disturb if you r "pure". what if u're not? hahahaha...

u mean from paritta sutta? yes. dunno if it really works but so far din get disturbed, haha. yakkhas r not to be played with, out recitation of paritta is not enough if generals of the cathumaharajika gods r not on our side. to be worthy, we need to to practice more metta (i think)

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post Jan 16 2012, 08:22 AM

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31 planes of existence... where are we going ah after this ?


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post Jan 16 2012, 08:27 AM

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post Jan 16 2012, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(hotjake @ Jan 13 2012, 11:55 AM)
of course terrified, imagine a peta who is 12 feet tall like a tree standing naked in front of you. they don dare disturb if you r "pure". what if u're not? hahahaha...

u mean from paritta sutta? yes. dunno if it really works but so far din get disturbed, haha. yakkhas r not to be played with, out recitation of paritta is not enough if generals of the cathumaharajika gods r not on our side. to be worthy, we need to to practice more metta (i think)
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the suttas can only help to an extent. What really helps is seeing the peta as another being in samsara who only wants relief from his constant suffering. If you're aware of its suffering the fear goes away and because he knows you care for him, he wont harm you. That's a better protection.
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post Jan 16 2012, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(Joey-kun @ Jan 16 2012, 09:53 AM)
the suttas can only help to an extent. What really helps is seeing the peta as another being in samsara who only wants relief from his constant suffering. If you're aware of its suffering the fear goes away and because he knows you care for him, he wont harm you. That's a better protection.
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ya... that's why i prefer metta (read care for him) over paritta, petas r not evil beings. if he needs merits, then we should perform good deeds in his honour and dedicate those merits to him to lessen his sufferings

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post Jan 16 2012, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Jan 16 2012, 08:22 AM)
31 planes of existence... where are we going ah after this ?
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hell, most likely
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post Jan 16 2012, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(hotjake @ Jan 16 2012, 10:08 AM)
hell, most likely
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wah seh... although I don't discount that possibility, but let's hope we don't land there and our merits in this life would help shorten our stay in Samsara... sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Jan 16 2012, 11:30 AM

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well..to be more optimistic... assuming you have not done any of the 5 great misdeeds and have generated enough good karma in your life time..i believe the stint in hell will be short one..
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post Jan 16 2012, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Jan 13 2012, 09:36 AM)
Sure boh?
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QUOTE(hotjake @ Jan 13 2012, 09:49 AM)
wow, please make sure, no jakim, jais, rela and the whole shebangs come knocking... wait come kicking your door down to drag you the mosque and repent  biggrin.gif
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Well....I'm waiting for... 16 years now...no one come. (perfect disguise cool2.gif )
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post Jan 18 2012, 01:23 PM

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is the pure form of buddhism temple actually located in brickfields? i just like to ask is it ok to refer buddha as lord? and is it ok for a buddhist center start doing singing session like in Church where teenagers singing with the christian tune in it and using the word lord. Are this organization ok or not in the perspective of buddhism fellowers?
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post Jan 18 2012, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(hackwire @ Jan 18 2012, 01:23 PM)
is the pure form of buddhism temple actually located in brickfields? i just like to ask is it ok to refer buddha as lord? and is it ok for a buddhist center start doing singing session like in Church where teenagers singing with the christian tune in it and using the word lord. Are this organization ok or not in the perspective of buddhism fellowers?
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The one located in Bricksfield is run by Sinhalese monks. (sri lanka). They are of Theravada school. If you like, the oldest tradition. They are similar to the ones practiced in Thailand and Burma.

yes, you can refer the Buddha as Lord as his disciples called him in the sutta (english translation). I am not sure about the practice of singing in Buddhism... anyone would like to comment? smile.gif

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post Jan 18 2012, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(hackwire @ Jan 18 2012, 01:23 PM)
is the pure form of buddhism temple actually located in brickfields? i just like to ask is it ok to refer buddha as lord? and is it ok for a buddhist center start doing singing session like in Church where teenagers singing with the christian tune in it and using the word lord. Are this organization ok or not in the perspective of buddhism fellowers?
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Errr what's your definition of 'pure form'?

Yeah we have referred the buddha as the lord for a very long time already and it has also been sung in multiple buddhist hymns. Buddhist hymns have long existed and buddhists have no problems with that....
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post Jan 18 2012, 02:08 PM

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Let's all reflect on the Buddha's virtues.

1. Itipi Arahang - Lord Buddha is Saintly pure,
2. Itipi Sammasambuddho - Lord Buddha is fully self-enlightened,
3. Itipi Vijjacarana-sampanno - Lord Buddha is perfect in knowledge and conduct,
4. Itipi Sugato - Lord Buddha is well-fared,
5. Itipi Lokavidu - Lord Buddha is the knower of all worlds,
6. Itipi Anuttaro Purisadammasarathi - Lord Buddha is the unexcelled trainer of capable beings
7. Itipi Sattha Devamanussana - Lord Buddha is the teacher of devas and men,
8. Itipi Buddho - Lord Buddha is fully awakened,
9. Itipi Bhagava - Lord Buddha is the exalted sage.


For me , it's a good way to instill confidence.

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post Jan 18 2012, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Jan 18 2012, 01:43 PM)
The one located in Bricksfield is  run by Sinhalese monks. (sri lanka). They are of Theravada school. If you like, the oldest tradition. They are similar to the ones practiced in Thailand and Burma.

yes, you can refer the Buddha as Lord as his disciples called him in the sutta (english translation).  I am not sure about the practice of singing in Buddhism... anyone would like to comment?  smile.gif
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Oic! how bout the one in subang jaya and kota kemuning? are they from theravada school? than i noticed the one in subang very much on english educated people as compare to kota kemuning. there's a different kind of community . the one in subang sing buddhist hymm ?? sound more like a christian hymm to me not like those buddhism song leh ... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(zstan @ Jan 18 2012, 01:45 PM)
Errr what's your definition of 'pure form'?

Yeah we have referred the buddha as the lord for a very long time already and it has also been sung in multiple buddhist hymns. Buddhist hymns have long existed and buddhists have no problems with that....
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i don't know but isn't chinese buddhism has a little bit of tao in it? isn't joss stick praying is tao way?
my guess is that along the way when disciples are spreading buddhism, a lot of things have been accustomed to the culture of different region also. Than there's zen buddhism which is mostly practice in japan , right?
so wonder if either religion or philosophy teaching that matters ?

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