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soul2soul
post Jan 13 2012, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(hotjake @ Jan 13 2012, 09:49 AM)
wow, please make sure, no jakim, jais, rela and the whole shebangs come knocking... wait come kicking your door down to drag you the mosque and repent  biggrin.gif
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hi long time no see. my practice is a bit slack nowadays. hu hu

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have you heard anything about adithanna (determination) ? the things or wish people make after doing merits? do you make adithana?
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post Jan 13 2012, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(hotjake @ Nov 10 2011, 02:14 PM)
Thich Nhat Hanh on nirvana

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yo brother, can summarize or not? Youtube tiok blocked at my office.
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post Jan 13 2012, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Jan 13 2012, 09:56 AM)
hi long time no see. my practice is a bit slack nowadays. hu hu

Enjoice.

have you heard anything about adithanna (determination) ? the things or wish people make after doing merits? do you make adithana?
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hi there bro. lolz...

yes, i do it all the time especially when doing something good. this is very important bro. adithanna is synonymous to determination/wish/vow. it is NOT asking for something in return for the good you do but a sincere mind focused on the purpose and the result of such dana/good deeds.

think of it like this, making an adithanna is like having a compass to guide/steer your boat (good deeds) in the right direction. it is focused not doing something for the sake of doing. the resulting effect of the dana performed is DIFFERENT due to the added determination/sincere wish


Added on January 13, 2012, 10:09 ami can give you an example on how to do it in a simple manner, can?

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post Jan 13 2012, 10:13 AM

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since buddhism no god, so when i say a mi ta bha... means what.. who will listen to it since no god? is it a say for myself? can i substitute these 4 words to some other 4 words?
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post Jan 13 2012, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(chezzball @ Jan 13 2012, 10:13 AM)
since buddhism no god, so when i say a mi ta bha... means what.. who will listen to it since no god? is it a say for myself? can i substitute these 4 words to some other 4 words?
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yes u can substitute it with any word and still get absorbed in the object you recite, amitabha is used as a pure and ideal model/object of concentration to aspire to. it is suitable for mind purification. u can recite ayam or KFC and see what your mind does to you, observe and come back tell me if it is a suitable object to recite/meditate on

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post Jan 13 2012, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(hotjake @ Jan 13 2012, 10:07 AM)
hi there bro. lolz...

yes, i do it all the time especially when doing something good. this is very important bro. adithanna is synonymous to determination/wish/vow. it is NOT asking for something in return for the good you do but a sincere mind focused on the purpose and the result of such dana/good deeds.

think of it like this, making an adithanna is like having a compass to guide/steer your boat (good deeds) in the right direction. it is focused not doing something for the sake of doing. the resulting effect of the dana performed is DIFFERENT due to the added determination/sincere wish


Added on January 13, 2012, 10:09 ami can give you an example on how to do it in a simple manner, can?
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Please do share. I know the only safe adithanna are those associated with attainment of nibbana as other adithanna would actually create kamma for further becoming.
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post Jan 13 2012, 10:24 AM

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I would like to further learn about Buddhism. I am born into a Buddhist family but my parents never taught me anything about this religion. Any Buddhism 101 to read? nod.gif
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post Jan 13 2012, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(patienceGNR @ Jan 13 2012, 10:24 AM)
I would like to further learn about Buddhism. I am born into a Buddhist family but my parents never taught me anything about this religion. Any Buddhism 101 to read? nod.gif
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Dear friend,

As highlighted by Joe-mamak, this is a really good book to start.

http://www.buddhanet.net/pdf_file/whatbelieve.pdf

It's written by the late chief monk at KL bricksfield maha vihara. A very good book.

may you grow in Dhamma!
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post Jan 13 2012, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(hotjake @ Jan 13 2012, 10:16 AM)
yes u can substitute it with any word and still get absorbed in the object you recite, amitabha is used as a pure and ideal model/object of concentration to aspire to. it is suitable for mind purification. u can recite ayam or KFC and see what your mind does to you, observe and come back tell me if it is a suitable object to recite/meditate on
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coz when like at nite u kena sleep paralysis or so caled "ghost on top of u" then i say amitabha to like release it. but i sometime scold f words also can wohhh...
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post Jan 13 2012, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(chezzball @ Jan 13 2012, 10:28 AM)
coz when like at nite u kena sleep paralysis or so caled "ghost on top of u" then i say amitabha to like release it. but i sometime scold f words also can wohhh...
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Do you always get it? I got friends who got nightmares every night. Kesian, too bad he not buddhist so I can't recommend methods to deal with it lor...
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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Jan 13 2012, 10:22 AM)
Please do share. I know the only safe adithanna are those associated with attainment of nibbana as other adithanna would actually create kamma for further becoming.
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wish for nibbana is safe? heheh... u sure? do u know the more you wish for nibbana, the easier your evil kamma come to surface to cancel off your "debt" faster?

adithanna can be anything as long as it is done with wholesome aim/goal/intention in mind. my teacher who is already touching 74 years old always make this adithanna: "may my body and mind remain healthy enough to continue serving the Śāsana". wonderfully he's still as strong and fit as ever to do good deeds and benefit his students. put youths to shame really...

on the tibetan buddhism aspect, many gurus vow to reincarnate and continue their lineage and spread buddhism.

both these 2 examples above r noble intentions bro... NOT dangerous at all

so here's an example for you: "With the merits that I've gained in this dana/good deed may....(your vow/determination/wish)" Sadhu!

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QUOTE(chezzball @ Jan 13 2012, 10:28 AM)
coz when like at nite u kena sleep paralysis or so caled "ghost on top of u" then i say amitabha to like release it. but i sometime scold f words also can wohhh...
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it is not a ghost on top of you experience la, and amitabha or whatever has nothing to do in its cure. IT is a medical condition (forgot the name u go google) related to your brain and motor functions being temporarily disconnected from each other

not sure if you're trolling though hmm.gif

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post Jan 13 2012, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Jan 13 2012, 10:31 AM)
Do you always get it? I got friends who got nightmares every night. Kesian, too bad he not buddhist so I can't recommend methods to deal with it lor...
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ask him to say the F words la.. it works.. i long time no use amitabha coz i think F words more impact dy
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post Jan 13 2012, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(hotjake @ Jan 13 2012, 10:31 AM)
wish for nibbana is safe? heheh... u sure? do u know the more you wish for nibbana, the easier your evil kamma come to surface to cancel off your "debt" faster?

adithanna can be anything as long as it is done with wholesome aim/goal/intention in mind. my teacher who is already touching 74 years old always make this adithanna: "may my body and mind remain healthy enough to continue serving the Śāsana". wonderfully he's still as strong and fit as ever to do good deeds and benefit his students. put youths to shame really...

on the tibetan buddhism aspect, many gurus vow to reincarnate and continue their lineage and spread buddhism.

both these 2 examples above r noble intentions bro... NOT dangerous at all
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talking about dangerous wish, I share with you my own experience. That time I just practiced buddhism, I did make some wish that some evil kamma in my life will be exhausted ASAP.

Guess what?

I got into accident a few weeks after. Rammed by a motorcycle on the road. Could see the motorcycle coming, but can't avoid it. I knew it was kamma. After that I don't cincai make adithanna, but only for those related to practice such as easier to reach concentration , more opportunity to do dana, to observe sila, to attain sotapatti magga.

I think those are safe la... hu hu

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Jan 13 2012, 10:28 AM)
Dear friend,

As highlighted by Joe-mamak, this is a really good book to start.

http://www.buddhanet.net/pdf_file/whatbelieve.pdf

It's written by the late chief monk at KL bricksfield maha vihara. A very good book.

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Thanks. I will read it after I come back from Bg'sar.


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post Jan 13 2012, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(chezzball @ Jan 13 2012, 10:37 AM)
ask him to say the F words la.. it works.. i long time no use amitabha coz i think F words more impact dy
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whatever that does the trick man... hell u can even follow that F word with a subject: "F.... me" for added strength and speed

you want to trivialise buddhism to such level? okay.jpg be my guest biggrin.gif

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post Jan 13 2012, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Jan 13 2012, 10:37 AM)
talking about dangerous wish, I share with you my own experience. That time I just practiced buddhism, I did make some wish that some evil kamma in my life will be exhausted ASAP.

Guess what?

I got into accident a few weeks after. Rammed by a motorcycle on the road. Could see the motorcycle coming, but can't avoid it. I knew it was kamma. After that I don't cincai make adithanna, but only for those related to practice such as easier to reach concentration , more opportunity to do dana, to observe sila, to attain sotapatti magga.

I think those are safe la... hu hu
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so you see my point biggrin.gif it is SCARY i tell you... hahaha. anyways this what i do "With the merits that I've gained in this dana/good deed may....(followed by your vow/determination/wish)" Sadhu3x! can d
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post Jan 13 2012, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(patienceGNR @ Jan 13 2012, 10:38 AM)
Thanks. I will read it after I come back from Bg'sar.
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where is bg'sar?
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post Jan 13 2012, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(hotjake @ Jan 13 2012, 10:41 AM)
so you see my point  biggrin.gif it is SCARY i tell you... hahaha. anyways this what i do "With the merits that I've gained in this dana/good deed may....(followed by your vow/determination/wish)" Sadhu3x! can d
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syadux3... how long you practice buddhism already?

btw, my teacher also told me certain kamma would arise in meditation too, so yogis are normally instructed to keep short fingernails, and don't sit at places where they might be exposed to danger like beside a stream, water, etc. Just in case evil kamma arise during meditation and ....

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Jan 13 2012, 10:42 AM)
where is bg'sar?
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Bangsar, bro. haha.

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