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Toast_Me
post Feb 21 2011, 06:55 PM

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hi all , i got something to ask.

example , i using a ssd as main boot device with windows
So , it will run extremely fast right.

So , if i got a game or software at another drive which is not ssd , will it run fast also ?

i asking this bcoz i was thinking , since the windows is booting on ssd already .Will it be infected ? or juz run on normal HDD speed eventhough u r using ssd for ur OS
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post Feb 21 2011, 07:56 PM

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You get SSD performance for files on your SSD and HDD performance for files on your HDD. SSDs won't automagically improve performance of HDDs.
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post Feb 21 2011, 08:28 PM

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owh, thks

Which means , if i buy this for my OS as my main .

i juz can improve the data receive speed and transfer speed and application on the SSd drive
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post Feb 21 2011, 09:42 PM

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Install any program that consume less space on your SSD will do.
Its not like you want to store 10 latest game on a SSD right ? biggrin.gif
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post Feb 22 2011, 01:10 AM

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yea, b4 this i waas thinking put all applications games into a ssd.

bcoz i was thinking of get better speed or fps ?

i think my thought was wrg tht time

hah thks for helping
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post Feb 22 2011, 01:36 AM

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I think SSD only improves the games loading time instead of the fps hmm.gif
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post Feb 22 2011, 08:53 AM

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if we put windows file on ssd, it will make the boot speed to be faster right??

does start up program will effect the boot speed??if we put the start up program on hdd...
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post Feb 22 2011, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(MrPotato1990 @ Feb 22 2011, 08:53 AM)
if we put windows file on ssd, it will make the boot speed to be faster right??

does start up program will effect the boot speed??if we put the start up program on hdd...
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that would be a very obvious YES
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post Feb 22 2011, 10:06 AM

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Put all programmes & start-up app files in SSD. If you put inside HDD for sure you get HDD speed instead of SSD.

For me I only hv 40GB of space. Howver all my programmes/ start-up files all inside SSD. Only certain large files like my Other countries GPS maps, Photos & movies in my HDD, Other such as my working words/excel & etc all inside SSD. Still I'm still having 19GB of free space out of 450GB.

QUOTE(MrPotato1990 @ Feb 22 2011, 08:53 AM)
if we put windows file on ssd, it will make the boot speed to be faster right??

does start up program will effect the boot speed??if we put the start up program on hdd...
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post Feb 22 2011, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(stimix @ Feb 22 2011, 10:06 AM)
Put all programmes & start-up app files in SSD. If you put inside HDD for sure you get HDD speed instead of SSD.

For me I only hv 40GB of space. Howver all my programmes/ start-up files all inside SSD. Only certain large files like my Other countries GPS maps, Photos & movies in my HDD, Other such as my working words/excel & etc all inside SSD. Still I'm still having 19GB of free space out of 450GB.
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450GB or 40GB? hmm.gif

I installed my Ms Office in my HDD. Don't want to waste space.
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post Feb 22 2011, 05:47 PM

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I got 3 storage.

1SSd
2HHD

my SSd is 150Gb
and my HHD is 150Gb and 1 250Gb

all my downloads is in HDD while all the bootable file is in my SSD
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post Feb 22 2011, 06:04 PM

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Opss typo..40GB nia blush.gif

Even wth MS office installed still got lotsa empty space what biggrin.gif Start-up of Office & even files are much faster.

QUOTE(XiuKeong @ Feb 22 2011, 04:56 PM)
450GB or 40GB? hmm.gif

I installed my Ms Office in my HDD. Don't want to waste space.
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post Feb 22 2011, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(XiuKeong @ Feb 22 2011, 04:56 PM)
450GB or 40GB? hmm.gif

I installed my Ms Office in my HDD. Don't want to waste space.
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Bro, the office should go the ssd. nod.gif
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post Feb 22 2011, 06:15 PM

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I think mine only left 15GB after installing vlc, visual studio, tune up, eset AV, messenger...Does those eat so much space? hmm.gif
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post Feb 22 2011, 08:17 PM

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They don't really eat that much space.

SSDs are very suited for programmers. Particularly for programming projects with thousands of source files. Finding strings within files and compiling will be much more faster. If a project used to take an hour to compile on a HDD, you can expect great performance improvement with an SSD.
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Well dont you guys know there is a "NTFS Compression" function since windows xp? sweat.gif
And read this before using NTFS compression on your ssd:
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Is NTFS Compression of Files and Directories recommended on SSDs?
Compressing files help save space, but the effort of compressing and decompressing requires extra CPU cycles and therefore power on mobile systems. That said, for infrequently modified directories and files, compression is a fine way to conserve valuable SSD space and can be a good tradeoff if space is truly a premium.
We do not, however, recommend compressing files or directories that will be written to with great frequency. Your Documents directory and files are likely to be fine, but temporary internet directories or mail folder directories aren’t such a good idea because they get large number of file writes in bursts.

Sauce: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/e7/archive/2009/05...drives-and.aspx

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post Feb 22 2011, 10:41 PM

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And I just bit the bullet and ordered an Intel X25M from owikh. Yay me.
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post Feb 23 2011, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(1024kbps @ Feb 22 2011, 10:21 PM)
Well dont you guys know there is a "NTFS Compression" function since windows xp? sweat.gif
And read this before using NTFS compression on your ssd:

Sauce: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/e7/archive/2009/05...drives-and.aspx
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You probably don't want to use NTFS compression on SandForce-based SSDs. It will reduce the advantages of using those SSDs as most of their extreme performance is based on the ability to compress and decompress data on the fly.

Perhaps somebody ought to test if a Kingston SSD with NTFS compression will be comparable to a SandForce-based SSD w/o NTFS compression. laugh.gif


Added on February 23, 2011, 3:33 pmCome to think of it, using encryption will also cause a similar problem, as encrypted data is not compressible.

This post has been edited by everling: Feb 23 2011, 03:33 PM
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post Feb 23 2011, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(everling @ Feb 22 2011, 08:17 PM)
They don't really eat that much space.

SSDs are very suited for programmers. Particularly for programming projects with thousands of source files. Finding strings within files and compiling will be much more faster. If a project used to take an hour to compile on a HDD, you can expect great performance improvement with an SSD.
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I kinda agree that it is well suited for programmers, cause I am programmer currently. Just that many company still insist using harddisk for the sake of cheap. Thats something that programmers are not getting any benefit from it. XD. But if getting SSD using my money just for the sake of work... I dont want spend it though >.<

Even right now laptops are not installed with SSD yet. I have no idea why. Maybe its because the cost is too much for them.

The major benefit for programmer, will be like what he said... Compiling. And maybe SQL query can help you run faster. But then, later customer will complain their server slow even though you tested in SSD which is consider fast. XD

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post Feb 24 2011, 03:56 PM

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Did anyone face the current problem of OCZ Vertex 2?
OCZ used 25nm NAND Flash in this part.
The usable capacity (56GB (34nm) -> 51GB (25nm)) and speed are both influenced... Be careful.
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1644571


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