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post Aug 4 2010, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Aug 4 2010, 03:21 PM)
Since when everyone wants to play a competitive RTS?
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I DO. and I am asking the question. and I PAID for the game. and I am enjoying it.

see the bolded characters?


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QUOTE(yimingwuzere @ Aug 4 2010, 03:24 PM)
Wikipedia tells me Activision was created because of Atari back in the 80s.
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just to clarify, Activision-blizzard was created because of EA (again, Vivendi is the keyword.)
hate activision so much? perhaps you guys might wanna take a look at the root cause.


see the bolded characters?

wiki/google again.

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Aug 4 2010, 03:26 PM)
I dont remember EA begin far worse than current Activision back then.

EA was only infamous for making tonnes of annual sequels with little or no innovations.

What Activision is doing is, making annual sequels with little innovation, then, put a ridiculous price tag on it. Fast forward to a few months, here it comes the expensive DLC.
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ARE YOU KIDDING ME? EA was FAR worst than Activision during its heyday as the big evil corporation.

They killed of great development houses
Attempted to monopolize whole sports games
Had a reputation for running their operations like a sweatshop

EA was really REALLY horrid back then. Yes, they're angels now compared to what they were before, but I'm not going to forget what they did as it could easily happen again (EA actually started out as a very good publisher)

Activision may be evil now, but that doesn't suddenly exonerate EA from their past exploits. That's just double standards.
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post Aug 4 2010, 03:33 PM

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I won't mind paying 230 bux if it is the CE version at that price. But the std version all u get is some fancy box, cd with no case- only paper cover, 2 useless guest pass for sc2 and wow and a B/W manual OMG wtf is that.

Compared to the 175 i paid for ME2 CE, i got a hell lot more inside than compared to SC2 std version

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post Aug 4 2010, 03:33 PM

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Hmm... evofantasy seems really damn lazy. Even googling also like damn hard to do. Failure at its finest. Trying to rebuke everything I said just because I pirate? Because your momma says pirating is wrong? You don't understand piracy well enough as I do because you've proven time and time again that you don't read. Enjoy living in the past.

Everyone else, if you bought your game then great, go ahead enjoy it. I'm just raising the awareness that maybe sometimes it is a better idea to wait and see first. There is nothing wrong with having the game but there seems to be something wrong if you're evofantasy.

I am willing to pay for the game.

I will eventually buy the game.

But I am doing a protest because I don't like game and its implementation right now to hopefully to make a dent in quarterly earnings to send a message to ActivisionBlizzard so they don't do a lot of things right for us consumers. Oh yeah, I'm not gonna help with evofantasy's lazy ass to google but IAH has a history as well. Look it up.

At the moment, Korea is not receiving SC2 favourably. But there will still be sponsors and competitions. I predict only WarCraft 3 level of success. unless they do some big patch and big changes. It's obvious evofantasy is a rich spoilt brat who just wants his voice heard in the lyn community. He says really nothing useful except demonstrate how bad he is at comprehension. That is all.

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post Aug 4 2010, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(H@H@ @ Aug 4 2010, 03:32 PM)
ARE YOU KIDDING ME? EA was FAR worst than Activision during its heyday as the big evil corporation.

They killed of great development houses
Attempted to monopolize whole sports games
Had a reputation for running their operations like a sweatshop

EA was really REALLY horrid back then. Yes, they're angels now compared to what they were before, but I'm not going to forget what they did as it could easily happen again (EA actually started out as a very good publisher)

Activision may be evil now, but that doesn't suddenly exonerate EA from their past exploits. That's just double standards.
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thank you for supporting that EA was much more for a HORROR back then...

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post Aug 4 2010, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(BBXiong @ Aug 4 2010, 03:13 PM)
passing by and saw epic thread in the making..so i decided to drop in and give some opinion of my own..

cash shop based MMORPG u can just play for free and drop the game when u are bored with it. this one? u are forced to pay everything..and to be honestly, even though i am working right now, i still feel the price is rather above average..and i am still hesitating whether to get or not...in terms of gaming experience, i kinda like it, fun to be played

yeah, sure, we arent suppose to pirate stuffs....but let's be honest here...are all ur applications, games, legit? yes? then what about ur MP3? if u answer all to these questions, that only meant u are bloody rich to have that much money to spend...for the majority of us, even working people, we got so many things to pay, and end of the month, we have only a few hundreds left to save up. If every game we want we get ori, i think we be broke edi. Jack Sparrow edition is more like a 'trial' of the game, if like, get ori, or else, delete and remove from HDD

for the metacritics, compilation is why the score is not trustable....it is because more the sites that do game review are already pressured to give high score, i don see how compiling all the score would help in this case

i agree with you on bad publisher doesnt mean bad game, but bad publisher are bad for reasons, and those reasons normally screw up the game on way or another

affordable? maybe...depends, u might think RM220 is small amount, or cheap, but to many people, that is very expensive..
the game is not RM200 with RM50 per month, or RM500, but after the 3 expansion come out, what will be the grand total of the whole game?

don tell me BS like u can just get the ori one and not the expansion...when expansion comes out, new units and feature are added, and people will just go ahead and play the expansion instead of the original, and in the end, the original game would most likely be abandon, like how it is on the first Starcraft..and when that happen, u will for sure go and buy the expansion also. On single player perspective also, the story continues, so u will need to get the new expansion to follow up with the story also. In the end, u will get all 3 games and have the grand cost of RM220x3
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- no one pointed a gun at your head to pay for sc2. dont pay then

- nope, regardless of reasons, one cannot justify themselves for piracy. trial or not. i admit i am a pirate too, however i dont justify myself for pirating. its wrong, and thats that.


QUOTE(BBXiong @ Aug 4 2010, 03:25 PM)
well apparently some people just don get it...
sure we are not a pro where every milisecond counts, but, when it add up to 500ms or 1000ms, how do u play the game? maybe you have nice internet connection, but doesnt mean the rest of us have....plus, u know how bad Stremayx is these days...it might not happen now, but it will be a potential problem, especially after SEA gets US client, which is why most people think twice of buying the US version.

also, i think the missing of LAN game is very, very disappointing. Although internet gameplay is very popular right now, but it still don beat LAN in terms of connection stability(at least not here in Malaysia). me and my friends lan party, all of us own original copy of the game, but we still need to connect to the server to play? that's rather redundant..
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- problem: it does NOT add up to 500ms or 1k ms. i am playing the game as it is

- no nice internet connection? dont buy, dont play. it is also listed in the PC requirements for your reference before buying the game. which is also included in this sub forum's FAQ

- yes missing LAN is disappointing, i dont like it myself. however, i want to play the damn game, and b.net is more than enough to make up for it. again, thats me, you dont like, DONT BUY.
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Aug 4 2010, 04:27 PM)
why u need to pirate to try the game?
the game do have free trials/ guest pass rite?
again JUST AN EXCUSE TO PIRATE
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Can you provide me the free trials for SC2? I would very much love to try it on my computer and see whether I need to buy original. Thank you in advance.
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QUOTE(L.S.D @ Aug 4 2010, 03:35 PM)
Can you provide me the free trials for SC2? I would very much love to try it on my computer and see whether I need to buy original. Thank you in advance.
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sorry, my trials are already given out to my frens...
i sitll have the WoW ones though if u want...

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QUOTE(H@H@ @ Aug 4 2010, 03:32 PM)
ARE YOU KIDDING ME? EA was FAR worst than Activision during its heyday as the big evil corporation.

They killed of great development houses
Attempted to monopolize whole sports games
Had a reputation for running their operations like a sweatshop

EA was really REALLY horrid back then. Yes, they're angels now compared to what they were before, but I'm not going to forget what they did as it could easily happen again (EA actually started out as a very good publisher)

Activision may be evil now, but that doesn't suddenly exonerate EA from their past exploits. That's just double standards.
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QUOTE(JackAlvins @ Aug 4 2010, 03:33 PM)
At the moment, Korea is not receiving SC2 favourably. But there will still be sponsors and competitions. I predict only WarCraft 3 level of success. unless they do some big patch and big changes.
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i LOL-ed at ^
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SC2 doesn't really interest me in terms of the Multi-player portion cause all I am is just a lore junky and I've been wanting to know what's going on the Starcraft universe. And to be honest, I was ready to go out and buy the game thinking that hey a couple of multi-player games on Battle.net just to past the time might be fun.

Then I found out the price was a whopping RM250.

So now I've downloaded it and I'll be satisfied just to find out what's going on the the Starcraft Universe.
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Aug 4 2010, 03:37 PM)
i LOL-ed at ^
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Obviously, you don't know how much of a success StarCraft was. Obviously a Dota fag.

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post Aug 4 2010, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(JackAlvins @ Aug 4 2010, 03:39 PM)
Obviously, you don't know how much of a success StarCraft was. Obviously a Dota fag.
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clearly the 1.5M copies sold within 48 hours is a lie
clearly Tester and IntoTheRainbow is playing among themselves

seriously, do u really need to take cheapshot at people?
it only show how immature u are at handling discussion

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QUOTE(H@H@ @ Aug 4 2010, 03:32 PM)
ARE YOU KIDDING ME? EA was FAR worst than Activision during its heyday as the big evil corporation.

They killed of great development houses
Attempted to monopolize whole sports games
Had a reputation for running their operations like a sweatshop

EA was really REALLY horrid back then. Yes, they're angels now compared to what they were before, but I'm not going to forget what they did as it could easily happen again (EA actually started out as a very good publisher)

Activision may be evil now, but that doesn't suddenly exonerate EA from their past exploits. That's just double standards.
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I can agree with that, my colleague used to work in EA as a tester last time in the states. Really bad working hours and the compensation packages was quite poor in terms of industry standards.
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QUOTE(H@H@ @ Aug 4 2010, 03:32 PM)
ARE YOU KIDDING ME? EA was FAR worst than Activision during its heyday as the big evil corporation.

They killed of great development houses
Attempted to monopolize whole sports games
Had a reputation for running their operations like a sweatshop

EA was really REALLY horrid back then. Yes, they're angels now compared to what they were before, but I'm not going to forget what they did as it could easily happen again (EA actually started out as a very good publisher)

Activision may be evil now, but that doesn't suddenly exonerate EA from their past exploits. That's just double standards.
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Oh, Acitvison is not as bad as EA back then. ARE YOU f***ING SERIOUS???

Activision killed development houses like Red Octane, Neversoft, Radical and so on, on the basis of their previous game not doing well or their 100 million requirement.

The bullshit with Harmonix where they are also with EA/MTV now, because Activision thinks Harmonix is a crap developer. Apparently, they are doing much better than Guitar Hero now.

The whole Guitar Hero milking, and expensive guitar controllers with terrible quality. Is there any different with EA's milking with the sports franchise?

The whole Brutal Legends crap,where Tim Shalfer also with EA.

The whole MW2 no dedicated server crap, with crap load of insults to the PC community. Then, followed by law suits and royalty withhold.

Issues with Blur, from hacking to to NO KEYS RECONGFIGURATION.

Activision isnt much different from EA back then, except Activision is very careful with their exploits. Once something is wrong, close studio or fire 50% of the staff.

Game development has always been a sweat shop, except a couple of better developers dont get that. Even Rockstar had it.

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Aug 4 2010, 03:27 PM)
developers find that MMORPGs with cash shops earn more than subscription based MMORPGs...
and ppl are having trouble with a one time sum for SC2?
any AAA titles let it be ps3/ xbox is around the price itself...
good games deserve their price...

why u need to pirate to try the game?
the game do have free trials/ guest pass rite?
again JUST AN EXCUSE TO PIRATE

metacritic do show all the reviews taken to obtain the average score...
u can go through the reviews u know and not just look at the score...
seriously, metacritic is meant for that not only looking at the average...

total price in the end? u would never know...
the game itself is as big as a game itself thus should be compared to other release game itself...
just because its a trilogy doesnt mean u need to include the other 2 parts...
and standalone expansions are cheaper (SSF4, BB:CS etc)...
seriously, did blizz give out the price of heart of swarm/ legacy of the void that i've missed out?
cause every1 is saying that its priced the same...


Added on August 4, 2010, 3:28 pm

keynote in quaza's post "activision-blizzard"...
AKA the merger between activision and blizzard...
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that's because even cash based MMORPG, ppl don usually spend more then RM220 on the game itself...what i see is they just spend a little sum of cash to get some of the stuff they really want....Free MMORPG normally have more players then subscription based one, they just come, spend RM10-20 on the game, play for a while, got bored, and leave...so the money counts and sums up to a greater amount. It's not like everyone spent Rm500 on the game

Sure, there are free trial and guest pass, but how many games have free trial? and how many guest pass is included in each retail copy purchase? if i have one retail copy with only 2 guest pass but 7 of my friends wanna try out? throw the 2 keys out, ask them fight for it and the last 2 standing gets the key ah? The amount guest pass are not enough. My friend that bought the game gave me one of the guest pass, so i was able to try on the game..but how about the rest of his friends that want to try? take from another guy? i bet it will be the same situation also.

yeah, sure, metacritic is not for u to just look at the average, we know...but what about people that thinks their average score is trustable? they will then fall prey to game publisher's marketing tactic already, just saying, u cant trust reviews as much as back then right now due to all the media/publisher pressure

blizzard have not announce the price of their expansion yet, but why everyone says it's gonna be the same? it shows that u really didnt read all the replies and the link they posted..here, as a reference, read this

after the publisher's CEO said that, u expect cheaper price form expansion? for me, i don...heck, now that i mentioned it, expecting expansion to be same price seems to be rather optimistic too

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QUOTE(ravager877 @ Aug 4 2010, 03:39 PM)
SC2 doesn't really interest me in terms of the Multi-player portion cause all I am is just a lore junky and I've been wanting to know what's going on the Starcraft universe. And to be honest, I was ready to go out and buy the game thinking that hey a couple of multi-player games on Battle.net just to past the time might be fun.

Then I found out the price was a whopping RM250.

So now I've downloaded it and I'll be satisfied just to find out what's going on the the Starcraft Universe.
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good for you.


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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Aug 4 2010, 03:40 PM)
clearly the 1.5M copies sold within 48 hours is a lie
clearly Tester and IntoTheRainbow is playing among themselves

seriously, do u really need to take cheapshot at people?
it only show how immature u are at handling discussion

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a WoW player and a dota fag  hmm.gif
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dota fag.

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QUOTE(BBXiong @ Aug 4 2010, 03:43 PM)
that's because even cash based MMORPG, ppl don usually spend more then RM220 on the game itself...what i see is they just spend a little sum of cash to get some of the stuff they really want....Free MMORPG normally have more players then subscription based one, they just come, spend RM10-20 on the game, play for a while, got bored, and leave...so the money counts and sums up to a greater amount. It's not like everyone spent Rm500 on the game

Sure, there are free trial and guest pass, but how many games have free trial? and how many guest pass is included in each retail copy purchase? if i have one retail copy with only 2 guest pass but 7 of my friends wanna try out? throw the 2 keys out, ask them fight for it and the last 2 standing gets the key ah? The amount guest pass are not enough. My friend that bought the game gave me one of the guest pass, so i was able to try on the game..but how about the rest of his friends that want to try? take from another guy? i bet it will be the same situation also.

yeah, sure, metacritic is not for u to just look at the average, we know...but what about people that thinks their average score is trustable? they will then fall prey to game publisher's marketing tactic already, just saying, u cant trust reviews as much as back then right now due to all the media/publisher pressure

blizzard have not announce the price of their expansion yet, but why everyone says it's gonna be the same? it shows that u really didnt read all the replies and the link they posted..here, as a reference, read  this

after the publisher's CEO said that, u expect cheaper price form expansion? for me, i don...heck, now that i mentioned it, expecting expansion to be same price seems to be rather optimistic too
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clearly u never played F2P games...
even LoTRO is going to such model...
heck even some F2P games account sells 10times the worth of my WoW account (one of the top paladin in the server)...

that's wut game reviews are for...
they can share the keys, or they can try it at ur place...
again, PIRACY IS NOT AN EXCUSE nor IT CAN JUSTIFY YOUR MEANS...

what u say and what u do is a different thing...
just because some1 said it, u cant take it for real...
likewise, there is no concrete price for the expansions yet...
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QUOTE(BBXiong @ Aug 4 2010, 03:43 PM)
that's because even cash based MMORPG, ppl don usually spend more then RM220 on the game itself...what i see is they just spend a little sum of cash to get some of the stuff they really want....Free MMORPG normally have more players then subscription based one, they just come, spend RM10-20 on the game, play for a while, got bored, and leave...so the money counts and sums up to a greater amount. It's not like everyone spent Rm500 on the game

Sure, there are free trial and guest pass, but how many games have free trial? and how many guest pass is included in each retail copy purchase? if i have one retail copy with only 2 guest pass but 7 of my friends wanna try out? throw the 2 keys out, ask them fight for it and the last 2 standing gets the key ah? The amount guest pass are not enough. My friend that bought the game gave me one of the guest pass, so i was able to try on the game..but how about the rest of his friends that want to try? take from another guy? i bet it will be the same situation also.

yeah, sure, metacritic is not for u to just look at the average, we know...but what about people that thinks their average score is trustable? they will then fall prey to game publisher's marketing tactic already, just saying, u cant trust reviews as much as back then right now due to all the media/publisher pressure

blizzard have not announce the price of their expansion yet, but why everyone says it's gonna be the same? it shows that u really didnt read all the replies and the link they posted..here, as a reference, read  this

after the publisher's CEO said that, u expect cheaper price form expansion? for me, i don...heck, now that i mentioned it, expecting expansion to be same price seems to be rather optimistic too
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WoW vanilla was around 200
expansions are around 150 each
Subs are ~rm50/month

WoW have over 12mil active concurrent subscribers, superseding ANY competition in the market currently. WoW is not free.

i played WoW for 5 years and bought ALL the collector's edition except vanilla and ANOTHER retail copy to play it while i wait for shipment from USA.

why i did that? i love the game. i was a student back then, i dont spend on anything else and save up for world of warcraft. i still managed to pay for it. Surely, i work now, and its even a non-issue. but the point being is that i set aside other things and made sacrifices and i am able to spend the 'supposedly' expensive spending for a game i love.
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 4 2010, 03:44 PM)
dota fag.
fine, my holy paladin is the healing hero from dota whatever his name is >.<

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