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post Aug 4 2010, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Aug 4 2010, 02:24 PM)
MW2 boycott itself failed...
and many of the butthurt just took BF:BC as the substitute...
that's when the whole EA as the evil one become the holy one...

1. well see any MMORPGs out there, sub based or cash shop based... how much those cost? how bout xbox games with their XBL subs? all the other DLCs? all of these are much costlier and i dun see any QQ over it...

2. well to me if a 'game developer' would be supporting piracy, its just so ironic... as bad as a game is, it does not give u the excuse to pirate it... since its bad WHY ARE U PLAYING IT through PIRACY?

3. there are low reviews as well... that's y i linked metacritic which is a compilation of reviews out there and not a specific review for ur reading/ decision...

4. EA was where Activision is claimed to be now... milking IPs over n over again for sequels or killing the good IPs (CnC etc)... that was the main reason why it was hated, not the DRM etc... the hate started when EA was the biggest publisher in the world through the sport licensing etc... and that include the huge console gamers base as well about EA (look back at gamefaq back then)...

5. a bad publisher doesn't mean a bad game... games are associated to their developers and not really their publisher... as long as the price is justifiable, i'm ok wit buying it...


Added on August 4, 2010, 2:26 pm

well if the game is affordable why not?
its not like 200 with 50bucks subs per month...
or 500 one off...
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passing by and saw epic thread in the making..so i decided to drop in and give some opinion of my own..

cash shop based MMORPG u can just play for free and drop the game when u are bored with it. this one? u are forced to pay everything..and to be honestly, even though i am working right now, i still feel the price is rather above average..and i am still hesitating whether to get or not...in terms of gaming experience, i kinda like it, fun to be played

yeah, sure, we arent suppose to pirate stuffs....but let's be honest here...are all ur applications, games, legit? yes? then what about ur MP3? if u answer all to these questions, that only meant u are bloody rich to have that much money to spend...for the majority of us, even working people, we got so many things to pay, and end of the month, we have only a few hundreds left to save up. If every game we want we get ori, i think we be broke edi. Jack Sparrow edition is more like a 'trial' of the game, if like, get ori, or else, delete and remove from HDD

for the metacritics, compilation is why the score is not trustable....it is because more the sites that do game review are already pressured to give high score, i don see how compiling all the score would help in this case

i agree with you on bad publisher doesnt mean bad game, but bad publisher are bad for reasons, and those reasons normally screw up the game on way or another

affordable? maybe...depends, u might think RM220 is small amount, or cheap, but to many people, that is very expensive..
the game is not RM200 with RM50 per month, or RM500, but after the 3 expansion come out, what will be the grand total of the whole game?

don tell me BS like u can just get the ori one and not the expansion...when expansion comes out, new units and feature are added, and people will just go ahead and play the expansion instead of the original, and in the end, the original game would most likely be abandon, like how it is on the first Starcraft..and when that happen, u will for sure go and buy the expansion also. On single player perspective also, the story continues, so u will need to get the new expansion to follow up with the story also. In the end, u will get all 3 games and have the grand cost of RM220x3
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post Aug 4 2010, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Aug 4 2010, 03:12 PM)
Sure, SC2 is fun, but it's too expensive.
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well apparently some people just don get it...

QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 4 2010, 03:13 PM)
how so this would not be the case? people still buy sc2 if they want to, and they are paying to their hated activision anyways. try looking back in the previous sc2 'version' threads, and/or even the "i hate sc2" thread. then see how many of them plays sc2 now. same shit if you ask me.

honestly, legit complaints towards a specific issue with objectivity in mind is fine, however the posts you've made is treading on both sides, worse when you seem to be taking up a pirate's side. at the end of the day: you hate it? dont buy. no one forcing you. you just hate IAH/SMM/SEA? (like me) fine, buy US (hell, even cheaper than SEA wwwww) worried bout pings? have my word that its NOT an issue unless you're a professional where every millisecond of reaction counts. dont take my word for it? get a guest pass, try it yourself.

see how EASY that is?

also on the bolded:
predecessors you say? let me ask you this: i want to play a competitive e-sport level BALANCED RTS. WHAT other game would you suggest?
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sure we are not a pro where every milisecond counts, but, when it add up to 500ms or 1000ms, how do u play the game? maybe you have nice internet connection, but doesnt mean the rest of us have....plus, u know how bad Stremayx is these days...it might not happen now, but it will be a potential problem, especially after SEA gets US client, which is why most people think twice of buying the US version.

also, i think the missing of LAN game is very, very disappointing. Although internet gameplay is very popular right now, but it still don beat LAN in terms of connection stability(at least not here in Malaysia). me and my friends lan party, all of us own original copy of the game, but we still need to connect to the server to play? that's rather redundant..
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post Aug 4 2010, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Aug 4 2010, 03:27 PM)
developers find that MMORPGs with cash shops earn more than subscription based MMORPGs...
and ppl are having trouble with a one time sum for SC2?
any AAA titles let it be ps3/ xbox is around the price itself...
good games deserve their price...

why u need to pirate to try the game?
the game do have free trials/ guest pass rite?
again JUST AN EXCUSE TO PIRATE

metacritic do show all the reviews taken to obtain the average score...
u can go through the reviews u know and not just look at the score...
seriously, metacritic is meant for that not only looking at the average...

total price in the end? u would never know...
the game itself is as big as a game itself thus should be compared to other release game itself...
just because its a trilogy doesnt mean u need to include the other 2 parts...
and standalone expansions are cheaper (SSF4, BB:CS etc)...
seriously, did blizz give out the price of heart of swarm/ legacy of the void that i've missed out?
cause every1 is saying that its priced the same...


Added on August 4, 2010, 3:28 pm

keynote in quaza's post "activision-blizzard"...
AKA the merger between activision and blizzard...
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that's because even cash based MMORPG, ppl don usually spend more then RM220 on the game itself...what i see is they just spend a little sum of cash to get some of the stuff they really want....Free MMORPG normally have more players then subscription based one, they just come, spend RM10-20 on the game, play for a while, got bored, and leave...so the money counts and sums up to a greater amount. It's not like everyone spent Rm500 on the game

Sure, there are free trial and guest pass, but how many games have free trial? and how many guest pass is included in each retail copy purchase? if i have one retail copy with only 2 guest pass but 7 of my friends wanna try out? throw the 2 keys out, ask them fight for it and the last 2 standing gets the key ah? The amount guest pass are not enough. My friend that bought the game gave me one of the guest pass, so i was able to try on the game..but how about the rest of his friends that want to try? take from another guy? i bet it will be the same situation also.

yeah, sure, metacritic is not for u to just look at the average, we know...but what about people that thinks their average score is trustable? they will then fall prey to game publisher's marketing tactic already, just saying, u cant trust reviews as much as back then right now due to all the media/publisher pressure

blizzard have not announce the price of their expansion yet, but why everyone says it's gonna be the same? it shows that u really didnt read all the replies and the link they posted..here, as a reference, read this

after the publisher's CEO said that, u expect cheaper price form expansion? for me, i don...heck, now that i mentioned it, expecting expansion to be same price seems to be rather optimistic too

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post Aug 4 2010, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 4 2010, 03:34 PM)
- no one pointed a gun at your head to pay for sc2. dont pay then
there's someone here that says u must pay, aint that right, evofantasy?

QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 4 2010, 03:34 PM)
- nope, regardless of reasons, one cannot justify themselves for piracy. trial or not. i admit i am a pirate too, however i dont justify myself for pirating. its wrong, and thats that.
i didnt try to justify, just stating my reason

QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 4 2010, 03:34 PM)
- problem: it does NOT add up to 500ms or 1k ms. i am playing the game as it is
just saying there's a possibility for it, i am not saying it's happening now, but when Streamyx's 'cable broke down' again, it will be hard to say

QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 4 2010, 03:34 PM)
- no nice internet connection? dont buy, dont play. it is also listed in the PC requirements for your reference before buying the game. which is also included in this sub forum's FAQ

- yes missing LAN is disappointing, i dont like it myself. however, i want to play the damn game, and b.net is more than enough to make up for it. again, thats me, you dont like, DONT BUY.
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ok, seriously, i'm sick of this 'don like don buy' crap, it seems like it's your only point of argument here..did i say i dislike the game? no, and honestly, i like the game, it's fun and great, and multiplayer would be fun as well(i spent all my 7 hours on single player only)..i'm just saying the game would be better if such feature is added back in, and more people will be attracted, and not to mention, it would be more worth for the price they are selling with this feature. and like Jack said, more attractive feature, more ppl buy; more ppl play, more fun
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post Aug 4 2010, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 4 2010, 03:50 PM)
WoW vanilla was around 200
expansions are around 150 each
Subs are ~rm50/month

WoW have over 12mil active concurrent subscribers, superseding ANY competition in the market currently. WoW is not free.

i played WoW for 5 years and bought ALL the collector's edition except vanilla and ANOTHER retail copy to play it while i wait for shipment from USA.

why i did that? i love the game. i was a student back then, i dont spend on anything else and save up for world of warcraft. i still managed to pay for it. Surely, i work now, and its even a non-issue. but the point being is that i set aside other things and made sacrifices and i am able to spend the 'supposedly' expensive spending for a game i love.
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so ur point is? u are rich?

sorry dude, i don sacrifice my 'real life' for my 'virtual life', don spend on anything is not really the way i would wanna live
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post Aug 4 2010, 04:32 PM

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actually i think kotaku have a post that sums up the stuff that you need to know before playing starcraft II, u can just read it up here

http://kotaku.com/5591671/learn-the-starcr...line-in-a-hurry
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post Aug 4 2010, 05:08 PM

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lol...so actual conclusion of the thread

if u like RTS, fan of SC, have decent internet connection, and feel that RM220 for the game is worth the price, get it.

If you are unsure, get someone who have a trial key to give u a 7 hour trial, and decide for it
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post Aug 4 2010, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 4 2010, 05:09 PM)
because this thread is radiating with awesome. thats why.
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Quaz, don mind if i ask, what's ur connection speed...since u mention ur connection is fine to US server, just wanna know
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post Aug 4 2010, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 4 2010, 05:14 PM)
and there you go, words from our mod.

hell, just for the sake of it anyways:

post #2, and post #9
thats the sauce.


Added on August 4, 2010, 5:17 pm

refer to the stickied FAQ, connection speed does NOT relate to latency or connection stability.

however for the sake of answering you anyways: 1.5mbit tmnut screamyx.
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like i said, just curious and wanna know mah....no need to answer like that bah... sweat.gif
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post Aug 4 2010, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(L.S.D @ Aug 4 2010, 05:30 PM)
Hmmm, i do like RTS, but my last RTS is C&C Generals. Not sure about the story in this game can get my interest too and for sure no way I want to pay RM200++ for now without knowing whether my LAPTOP can support or not :/ Oh well.....
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what's ur laptop spec? i suppose most of us can help u with that...
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post Aug 4 2010, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Aug 4 2010, 05:33 PM)
my 4 year old laptop can support this with all low and lagless multiplayer...
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it's also about graphic card one lar....i don think GMA can run smoothly on this?

pls, 4 year old, but what card....i think ur statement is pointless
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post Aug 4 2010, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(radkliler @ Aug 4 2010, 05:40 PM)
My GMA runs this at 5FPS. So yeah.
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on the bright side...at least GMA can install it.. tongue.gif

i guess in this matter...anything but intel HD/GMA can handle all low with at least proper framerate, since the game is made to be scalable...but to be safe, i think u better let us know what graphic card your laptop is using

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post Aug 4 2010, 05:48 PM

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@L.S.D
just to give u an idea on how great the game can run, u can refer to here:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Computer-Game...ds.13849.0.html

however most graphic card are not benchmarked with the game yet, but it seems like GT310 can obtain high framerate in low setting

if your graphic card is not benchmarked in the list and u are curious how much performance different is your graphic card and some of the card benchmarked, here's a link of most the laptop graphic card's 3D Mark benchmark result:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphi...List.844.0.html

however note that some of the result are slightly affected by CPU speed

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post Aug 5 2010, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 4 2010, 08:39 PM)
not a valid point as the other versions will eventually get theirs. that said, SEA version's xregion to US isnt even marketed when the price was set.
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QUOTE(Moonflown @ Aug 4 2010, 08:59 PM)
A lot of things are more expensive in SEA. The cross region might be a compensation from blizzard, goodwill? Well I'm surprised that there's still people talking about the price
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blame it on IAH...depends on friends, i might get the US version after finishing off my steam games first...

 

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