to me its not the price. if u like it. if u want it. buy it. try the trial first. play offline or play lanun first. like me, i always download the lanun first before brought the game. this to noe if this game suit me or not.

I don't mind to pay for original if the games are good. But when those good games's prices are jacked up just because they can, that's where I draw the line.

1) If you're talking about the so-called 'boycotters' of Modern Warfare 2 in that steam group all playing MW2, then yes. In this case, no.

2) If you read what I've been saying so far, the bulk of my complaints are directed at the SEA version.

1) Comparing apples to oranges... can you compare this to other games instead?

2) You obviously do selective reading on posts, please reread each post in the topic.

3) I agree with "one man's meat is another man's poison". The point I'm driving at is, game companies nowadays have too much influence over reviewers, with reviewers pressured to give good scores based on the game's heavy advertising on their sites, and threatening letters, etc.

4) I'm sorry you can't find any excuses to justify the SEA edition being so overpriced compared to other multiplayer-centric AAA titles. Too bad. And BFBC2 doesn't come with bullshit DRM like Spore, so why should I complain? EA was hated only because they pushed they were pushing that DRM nonsense that punished legitimate buyers back in 2008.

5) Activision also owns Blizzard. Activision can call the shots on marketing and prices, even if they said they'd give free rein to Blizzard over game development. Fanboy all you want, this thread shows that fanboys (who blindly support whatever their idols throw out regardless of quality) will buy the game and think it's good no matter how much they pay for less compared to its predecessors...

if a sc2 fan boy / girl likes sc2, he / she will buy it if he / she believes it is worth it. he / she will be happy, is happy.

i dun think other people can stop him / her from buying it.


well, folks can, will probably comment about how this will jack up the prices etc, but there is no way to prevent it.

since you cannot force willing buyers to not spend money on a game that they like to support, even though it may seems a bit over priced, etc.

things like this just happens.

Lol ppl buy with their own money. Can't really stop them.

There's nothing to argue about from the start. Don't like it, don't buy. Like it, buy. End of line. End of story. Case closed

well, some people is "arguing" that such actions, fan boys supporting "over priced" products will cause "inflation" as something like the prices of future products will be higher liao.

MW2 boycott itself failed...
and many of the butthurt just took BF:BC as the substitute...
that's when the whole EA as the evil one become the holy one...

1. well see any MMORPGs out there, sub based or cash shop based... how much those cost? how bout xbox games with their XBL subs? all the other DLCs? all of these are much costlier and i dun see any QQ over it...

2. well to me if a 'game developer' would be supporting piracy, its just so ironic... as bad as a game is, it does not give u the excuse to pirate it... since its bad WHY ARE U PLAYING IT through PIRACY?

3. there are low reviews as well... that's y i linked metacritic which is a compilation of reviews out there and not a specific review for ur reading/ decision...

4. EA was where Activision is claimed to be now... milking IPs over n over again for sequels or killing the good IPs (CnC etc)... that was the main reason why it was hated, not the DRM etc... the hate started when EA was the biggest publisher in the world through the sport licensing etc... and that include the huge console gamers base as well about EA (look back at gamefaq back then)...

5. a bad publisher doesn't mean a bad game... games are associated to their developers and not really their publisher... as long as the price is justifiable, i'm ok wit buying it...

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Added on August 4, 2010, 2:26 pmwell if the game is affordable why not?
its not like 200 with 50bucks subs per month...
or 500 one off...

This post has been edited by evofantasy: Aug 4 2010, 02:28 PM

The MW2 boycott failed, that's why gamers are now getting screwed in the butt by inflated prices. EA scored a coup by catering to the needs of PC players, so what? They're providing what Activision refused to provide to gamers, that's competition for you in a capitalist economy. They aren't holy though (eg. C&C4) nor did I ever say they are, I just said the whole BFBC2 package is a sound one that caters to the PC gamer community well and it's position being usually higher than MW2 in Steam's top sellers list is testament to that.

1. Neither SC2 nor BFBC2 are MMOGs and therefore don't use a MMOG payment system. On the PC platform there's no XBL subscription, those services died out years ago.

2. Maybe you should also question why some music artistes advice their fans to pirate their albums.

3. You quoted its average score, not the actual sound reviews there.

4. I quoted the most recent case of gamer hatred towards EA.

5. I didn't imply bad publishers cause bad games, rather in this case of Activision (or IAH or both), they set unjustifiable pricing with the SEA copy. If you actually read my comments on people inquiring if it's worth buying, I always said to look for the US edition.

Deimos, exactly my point. If can't afford the game, don't buy Work hard for it

Nothing is cheap these days, everything goes up in price. Petrol, daily needs....the only thing tak naik is SALARY

We can't compare now and then. PC used to cost a fortune back in those olden days (if u're as old as me ). Now they are dirt cheap. Even printers are the same. Printer used to cost a lot last time, and cartridge is cheap. Now printers are dirt cheap, and cartridge are freaking expensive

Apparently, the monetised mods is put on hold indefinitely.

It's no longer in the game.

Im still looking for the link back.

So, MW2 is a good game? MW2 is just an overhyped game, just like SC2.

The stuff that is in the game does not justify the development time. Piss poor campaign, underwhelming Battlenet 2.0 and so on.

Sure, SC2 is fun, but it's too expensive.

how so this would not be the case? people still buy sc2 if they want to, and they are paying to their hated activision anyways. try looking back in the previous sc2 'version' threads, and/or even the "i hate sc2" thread. then see how many of them plays sc2 now. same shit if you ask me.

honestly, legit complaints towards a specific issue with objectivity in mind is fine, however the posts you've made is treading on both sides, worse when you seem to be taking up a pirate's side. at the end of the day: you hate it? dont buy. no one forcing you. you just hate IAH/SMM/SEA? (like me) fine, buy US (hell, even cheaper than SEA wwwww) worried bout pings? have my word that its NOT an issue unless you're a professional where every millisecond of reaction counts. dont take my word for it? get a guest pass, try it yourself.

see how EASY that is?

also on the bolded:
predecessors you say? let me ask you this: i want to play a competitive e-sport level BALANCED RTS. WHAT other game would you suggest?

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Aug 4 2010, 03:16 PM

passing by and saw epic thread in the making..so i decided to drop in and give some opinion of my own..

cash shop based MMORPG u can just play for free and drop the game when u are bored with it. this one? u are forced to pay everything..and to be honestly, even though i am working right now, i still feel the price is rather above average..and i am still hesitating whether to get or not...in terms of gaming experience, i kinda like it, fun to be played

yeah, sure, we arent suppose to pirate stuffs....but let's be honest here...are all ur applications, games, legit? yes? then what about ur MP3? if u answer all to these questions, that only meant u are bloody rich to have that much money to spend...for the majority of us, even working people, we got so many things to pay, and end of the month, we have only a few hundreds left to save up. If every game we want we get ori, i think we be broke edi. Jack Sparrow edition is more like a 'trial' of the game, if like, get ori, or else, delete and remove from HDD

for the metacritics, compilation is why the score is not trustable....it is because more the sites that do game review are already pressured to give high score, i don see how compiling all the score would help in this case

i agree with you on bad publisher doesnt mean bad game, but bad publisher are bad for reasons, and those reasons normally screw up the game on way or another

affordable? maybe...depends, u might think RM220 is small amount, or cheap, but to many people, that is very expensive..
the game is not RM200 with RM50 per month, or RM500, but after the 3 expansion come out, what will be the grand total of the whole game?

don tell me BS like u can just get the ori one and not the expansion...when expansion comes out, new units and feature are added, and people will just go ahead and play the expansion instead of the original, and in the end, the original game would most likely be abandon, like how it is on the first Starcraft..and when that happen, u will for sure go and buy the expansion also. On single player perspective also, the story continues, so u will need to get the new expansion to follow up with the story also. In the end, u will get all 3 games and have the grand cost of RM220x3

just to clarify, Activision-blizzard was created because of EA (again, Vivendi is the keyword.)
hate activision so much? perhaps you guys might wanna take a look at the root cause.

Since when everyone wants to play a competitive RTS?

1. u asked me about games... and i give u games... i dun see ppl complaining bout SSF4 or BB:CS when both are clearly standalone expansions...

2. educate me on this... any links?

3. i did provide a link to metacritic, u dun expect me to copy paste all of the reviews rite lol... i'm not doing to do all the dirty work...

4. EA was hated way back from wut u quoted for being far worse than activision... just because of MW2, they decided to try and buy back gamers and it half worked... after all MW2 sales is HOT

5. US edition is RM 190 (exchange rage), SEA edition is RM 220 (u can get cheaper from the games section)... wut SEA offer is access to US server in roughly 2 months time... and of course it depends on ur frens as u would wanna play wit ur frens (thus i bought SEA)

Wikipedia tells me Activision was created because of Atari back in the 80s.

well apparently some people just don get it...

sure we are not a pro where every milisecond counts, but, when it add up to 500ms or 1000ms, how do u play the game? maybe you have nice internet connection, but doesnt mean the rest of us have....plus, u know how bad Stremayx is these days...it might not happen now, but it will be a potential problem, especially after SEA gets US client, which is why most people think twice of buying the US version.

also, i think the missing of LAN game is very, very disappointing. Although internet gameplay is very popular right now, but it still don beat LAN in terms of connection stability(at least not here in Malaysia). me and my friends lan party, all of us own original copy of the game, but we still need to connect to the server to play? that's rather redundant..

I dont remember EA begin far worse than current Activision back then.

EA was only infamous for making tonnes of annual sequels with little or no innovations.

What Activision is doing is, making annual sequels with little innovation, then, put a ridiculous price tag on it. Fast forward to a few months, here it comes the expensive DLC.

good/bad/overhyped/underrated/whatever/anything

DONT BUY then.
WHY pay them money if you think its not worth paying for?
Raynor: Somethings, are just worth fighting for. nope not so cliche thar


ps: so i heard you bought sc2?

developers find that MMORPGs with cash shops earn more than subscription based MMORPGs...
and ppl are having trouble with a one time sum for SC2?
any AAA titles let it be ps3/ xbox is around the price itself...
good games deserve their price...

why u need to pirate to try the game?
the game do have free trials/ guest pass rite?
again JUST AN EXCUSE TO PIRATE

metacritic do show all the reviews taken to obtain the average score...
u can go through the reviews u know and not just look at the score...
seriously, metacritic is meant for that not only looking at the average...

total price in the end? u would never know...
the game itself is as big as a game itself thus should be compared to other release game itself...
just because its a trilogy doesnt mean u need to include the other 2 parts...
and standalone expansions are cheaper (SSF4, BB:CS etc)...
seriously, did blizz give out the price of heart of swarm/ legacy of the void that i've missed out?
cause every1 is saying that its priced the same...

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Added on August 4, 2010, 3:28 pmkeynote in quaza's post "activision-blizzard"...
AKA the merger between activision and blizzard...

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Added on August 4, 2010, 3:29 pmvs

NO INNOVATION for EA vs LITTLE INNOVATION for Activision (no no innovation here)

This post has been edited by evofantasy: Aug 4 2010, 03:29 PM