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Investment KINRARA RESIDENCE [OWNERS' THREAD], Lifestyle landed homes from Mah Sing

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post Mar 22 2011, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(QW$$ @ Mar 22 2011, 05:26 PM)
This is bad as the reason I bought the 3 storey is to have security and privacy . Now I'm reading that any Tom d*** & Harry can enter and use the facilities like the park.

Next question is so what happen if others dun pay the monthly fee's?
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Not too worry, once everything is ready, this whole Taman will be tagged as FULLY GATED & GUARDED AREA!!! rclxm9.gif
To answer non-paying maintenance fees, let me clarify, in the future, there are 3 groups of residents in KR, 1) Bungalow/Semi-D residents 2) link houses buyers who direct purchase fr TMS + Link hse buyers who bought fr Mahajaya + accept upgrading package fr TMS 3) Link hse buyers who bought fr Mahajaya (not accepting upgrading package fr TMS), the problem might come fr the 3rd group, those buyers (I dun no how many) will not hv clubhouse membership, I dun know how TMS handle them as they could possible end up didn't pay a single cent but enjoy the free security.
The real issue for maintenance in KR is since link houses is under individual title, it is free fr them to sell (without consent) their house even though they owe maintenance fees, as for Bungalow & SD, Under master title, no issue of owing fees, you can't sell if you dun clear all the outstanding (consent kenot get).
p/s : can someone who turn up 26th March pls help to ask TMS pertaining to those Mahajaya non-member issue icon_question.gif

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QUOTE(ayumi88 @ Mar 22 2011, 09:49 PM)
For the security issue, the guard house will come with a boom gate, and each of the residence have to use the access card to entry to their house. Any outsider/visitor have to register at the guard house and the guard will contact the owner thru the alarm system in our house(if i'm not mistake), so i dun see any problem for this kind of system.Even for the g+g, if any outsider/visitor, they also need to register at the guard house before get into the housing area.

What i can say is...it depand on how efficient for the security, if the security company no good, even the Taman is come with all high end security equipment also no use.
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Precisely, security sure tight.
IMO, to form a gated and guarded community is very easy, but to ongoing maintain the common facilities is a big big task, sometimes I wan to blame developer for not perform their duty to educate residence on theirs' responsibility and duty in g+g area, we mustn't assume that all the g+g residences understand the concept, till today many g+g areas appear to hv problems after few yrs operation, some owners think that if their management office is not doing well, then they can still hand the maintenance jobs back to respective authorities to take care.....it really happen, no joke (frankly I dun like g+g b'coz of tis)
If KR has many investors buy to flip, then may hv problem also if hse kenot be sold, vacant & owner give excuse not to pay mthly maintenance, be prepare to face this ya
Another thing I worry is developer absorb the 1st 2 yr fees, it is gd can save money, but problem may arise when terms expire, to start collecting hundreds of mthly fees will be challenging, becoz to serve maintenance fees, one needs to make it a habit.
I always hv a "dream", if for the 1st 2 yrs, although developer absorbs fees, residence can still starts to pay a little bit fr day one (certain %) to a stakeholder a/c (FD), until the 3rd yr, it is easier to keep the pace... wub.gif



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post Mar 26 2011, 11:05 AM

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Thanks for the info. Tis is the 1st time that a Taman appears to hv different set of RA, m trying to imagine wat could be the relationship be?
For instance, TMS only mentioned the fees for each & every household, but never detailed the allocation, as we know, there are a few items need to be make clear :
1. Club house maintenance - collective fund to maintain
2. Playground, street light etc - g+g needs to maintain by themselves
3. G+G has sinking fund - how does it be segregated?
4. Wat Wil happen if the number of link hse owners reduce?

Look quite complicated to me
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post Mar 26 2011, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(kikco @ Mar 26 2011, 02:40 PM)
fact is quite simple, its non strata G&G, no way to enforce everyone to pay, there are no laws.

no sinking fund, the common amenities like parks, road sweeping, grass cutting, lights will be maintained by local council.

you're just paying for the guards salary and any other additional services the RA are subscribing like CCTV, gardeners ..etc.
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Yes I know tis, I just dun understand how to manage the money? 2 different RA, 2 concept, 2 guard post, but only 1 common club house, so will 2 RAs share 1 account, if no, then how much suppose link hse owner pay for club house membership + guards fees?
If share 1 account, then all monies will goes to maintain club hse, security fees, g+g common facilities cost (including painting refurbishment), so if link hse membership reduce how? Confuse rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(kikco @ Mar 27 2011, 07:14 PM)
the ra can be combined or separate, the residents can dcide
later on when the developer pass back to the residents.

for the club house don't think is part of the maintanence fee,
it's separate. just imagine fitness first open a gym right next to your house right now...
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Ok, link houses members are required to pay RM150/ mth for maintenance fees, RM100 is security guard's fees, RM50 is for club house fees. 2 separate a/c will be managed by respective household residents (RA & JMB).
As for g+g SD & bungalow area, they will hv their's JMB to take care the maintenance, their maintenance charges are calculated based on b/up sf area (like condo) RM0.10/sf. I am not sure 10 cent/sf is enough or not for maintaining the common areas (roads, street lights, linear park, guards etc) which is so big..., I roughly estimate (SD 2-sty RM300/mth, SD 3-sty RM400/mth, Bungalow RM500/mth), , after dedut the allocation for Club hse (RM50/mth/household), mthly collection is about RM120K, SD/ bungalow frens shd look into it now. . wink.gif
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post Mar 28 2011, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(alfredfx @ Mar 28 2011, 11:38 AM)
worry abt 2 and 2.5 sty's quality
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QUOTE(yoki @ Mar 28 2011, 12:05 PM)
if compare to I&P, i believe the material given higher quality...

seems like all developers are in for quite buck
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Material used for building Qaseh is much better than KR Semi D / Superlink


Added on March 28, 2011, 1:59 pm
QUOTE(cooolguy @ Mar 28 2011, 10:12 AM)
I think rising interest rate would cause the opposite of price escalation as cost of fund increases. I'm under the impression that the regulators do it to curb speculation and therefore put some pressure on the prices. Anyway, I think a good project like KR will not be affected. Just make sure we get TMS to change all those lousy finishing materials.
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My fren went last Friday, book 1 Semi-D at 1.58mil, after viewing the show hse, she wrote in to request floor & frame changed, reply fr TMS SA is no more changing, my fren withdraw then

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QUOTE(Covillea @ Mar 28 2011, 03:17 PM)
no e-mail received. who's the sa?
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SA says management has final meeting aleliiiiiiiiiii, no more changes, stick to wat you see as per show unit, my fren brought a contractor to estimate if she were to change the flooring & quality frame at her own cost, 100K!! She then raised it to TMS, 30K discount was offered to her then. Finally still can't take it, chao quick quick bye bye to KR!!
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QUOTE(cooolguy @ Mar 28 2011, 07:55 PM)
All purchasers should start writing in formally with all the complaints.
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Jangan-jangan a reputable ""TMS"" deteriorate become "tns" (t_u ni_ s__g) fill in the blanks pls brows.gif
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QUOTE(naleh33 @ Mar 29 2011, 10:04 PM)
RM526980 for double storey link house in KR? Where did you get this price? I thought the minimum price was RM700++????
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He purchased fr Mahajaya, lucky!!
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QUOTE(krgia10 @ Mar 30 2011, 06:41 AM)
In fact the actual selling price was RM498,988... Just imagine that your neighbour who bought from MS need to spend 200K extra for the same house.  doh.gif
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Kenot say right or wrong, I think tis incident will happen once in our lifetime, I would say they are the lukiest batch of purchasers I ever see in my life, they shd thank TMS came into the picture.
I was at Mahajaya sales office suppose to buy 2 1/2 storey, but after saw the 2 1/2 show unit, I withdrawed (the show quality is terrible).
The upgrade offered by TMS is quite reasonable as many extra things have been added (modern facade, larger b/up, club membership, security intercom), I dun understand why still have many Mahajaya buyers didn't accept tis offer and blame TMS for doing that. For those units which didn't upgrade, TMS will still made some changes on the facade (FOC) to make it look a bit similar to the new design, but we can still differential it.
I know TMS is a very calculative developer, every single cent also count, those Mahajaya buyers who didn't take up the upgrade package shd be worry whether TMS build different quality hse for them, as I know the management is not very happy with these batch of purchasers, it will end up providing Mahajaya quality fir you.
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QUOTE(naleh33 @ Mar 30 2011, 08:52 AM)
I understand those Mahajaya feeling. A increase of 200K in pricing is almost 50% increase of the original price. Not everyone is able to afford it and get their 90% loan approved. On top of that, they probably does not need the facilities from the clubhouse and is fine with the design. If you mention about the qualities that TMS provide, I saw some screenshots for the link house, they are not good as well. Definitely not worth the 200K upgrade. If let say I have the 200K cash in hand, I rathar stick with the original Mahajaya design and spend the money on my renovation. I believe it will be much nicer than TMS house.

However, just my 2 cents worth.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Nolah...you probably misunderstood, 2-storey hse upgrade only cost the existing buyers 28K only, to enjoy all those benefits, dun you think it is not wise? Anyway this is personal choice
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QUOTE(krgia10 @ Mar 30 2011, 09:25 AM)
Heard from the lawyer that a lot of purchaser wanted to upgrade their unit last minute but MS rejected it due to the deadline for upgrade already passed. Agree with you on the upgrade is reasonable as it's RM28K for 2 storey and RM50K for 2.5 storey. For 2.5 storey, it added 360sqft to the built up.

Not sure whether we are lucky until the final product is handover to us.
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Yes I know that, my fren us one of those last minute, after seeing the showhouse, regret now. The best selling point for KR is the club house, in the future, the selling price could be easily 30K different.
Although many including me say the quality of the show unit is so so only, but has anyone of you saw Mahajaya 2 1/2 storey show house (at the entrance), I would say damn Jialat!! In my life I never saw a terrible show unit like that, if TMS 3-storey is 8 marks, Mahajaya's show unit is 3 marks.
Those who take up the upgrade package are in fact buying an insurance fr TMS, to ensure that theirs' hse are similar to new design. It is nothing wrong if TMS provide MAHAJAYA quality for non-upgraded hses.


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QUOTE(krgia10 @ Mar 30 2011, 09:57 AM)
Not so keen on the club house but i like the new layout by MS, more practical!

That was what made me worry if I don't upgrade, who knows whether TMS will take revenge by purposely engage back the Mahajaya contractor to build those non-upgrade unit for them. then really jialat liao.


Added on March 30, 2011, 10:01 amBy looking at the reno cost nowadays, RM28K/RM50K really can't do much. For 2 storey u only sacrifice the tiny small balcony which i think it's a eye sore.
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Boleh happen ya, closing door operation, who knows wat will developer do.
Anyway, congrates to both of you, Huatlah!! rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(mrkenjiro @ Mar 30 2011, 10:12 AM)
So you didn't opt for the upgrade?
I was not so keen of the club house too... used to stay in condo but seldom use the facility. But getting old already so maybe this will force me to 'exercise' a bit lor.
Btw, have you sign the latest SPA with the license and advertisement number included? And your unit is?
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mine 3-storey fr TMS
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QUOTE(pcteck19 @ Mar 30 2011, 11:04 AM)
i also take the upgrade plan from MS too (DSL).

i just wonder where is the extra build up area compare to original MHJY layout.

MS layout 2488 sq ft; MHJY layout 2280 sq ft.

i know the master bedroom has 2 changes, which moving to toilet to other location, but this also consider within the same build up area right?

another change is the extra built up at the windows there, but it doesn't look like extra 208 sq ft for me.

anyone can help to clarify the extra built up area 208 sq ft?
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extended balcony
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QUOTE(pcteck19 @ Mar 30 2011, 11:22 AM)
i thought the new layout from MS is no balcony for 2 storey?
i didn't see it in the floor plan on paper and MS's brochure

208 sq ft shall get an extra 20x10, which i cant really see the diff
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ya no balcony, wat I mean is existing Mahajaya balcony being closed up and extend a little bit further, master room b/up shd be bigger


Added on March 30, 2011, 11:29 amKinrara Residence

Bungalow Purchasers:
1)

Semi-D Three-Storey:
1)

Semi-D Double-Storey:
1) Covillea
2) driftmeister
3) eric er
4) cooolguy

Link Three-Storey Purchasers:
1) UFO-ET
2) frozen44
3) QW$$

Link Two-and-a-Half-Storey:
1) krgia10

Link Double-Storey:
1) pcteck19
2) mrkenjiro

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QUOTE(mrkenjiro @ Mar 30 2011, 11:41 AM)
Actually I am also confuse where is the 200++ sq ft from... if my memory serve me right, the balcony from MH's design is probably about 6ft X 6ft = 36ft. I don't think the extension in the Master Bedroom is 172 sq feet is size(which is like about 1/3 of the bedroom 2)
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Look carefully the front portion, the decorative roof covering also considered part of the gross b/up. it does not form part of the master b/up.
Fyi, In KV developer's b/up is gross, In Northern Penang, the b/up mentioned is nett b/up (excluding car porch, patio roof etc)
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QUOTE(krgia10 @ Apr 1 2011, 09:12 AM)
Everyone have their own definition, you got to see it yourself. Yes, I agree, it's low spec and low quality material for 1.5M property.
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Early bird price of 1.32 mil, providing these specs is acceptable.
But now 1.5 mil up, I tot Developer will upgrade the specs but very disappointed, too much bruce.gif

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