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nujo87
post Dec 21 2010, 07:30 PM

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srsly yes suck to the max!!
if u wan make call then u need to bring along his mifi router...stupid technology whistling.gif
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post Dec 21 2010, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(steventan85 @ Dec 21 2010, 07:23 PM)
that mean i cannot put the YES into my mobile phone ?
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unless u r able to hook up your phone to their network and login
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post Dec 21 2010, 07:40 PM

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Just try yes life today.. Downloaded at their website. No problem login through Jaring ADSL network. So it's working now outside YTL network.
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post Dec 21 2010, 07:53 PM

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shah alam n puchong got YES coverage?




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post Dec 21 2010, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(aneip @ Dec 21 2010, 07:40 PM)
Just try yes life today.. Downloaded at their website. No problem login through Jaring ADSL network. So it's working now outside YTL network.
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wonder why tm unifi can't use yes life? any1 face this problems?


Added on December 21, 2010, 8:33 pm
QUOTE(uexpress @ Dec 21 2010, 07:02 PM)
Not true....
whenever im out of YES coverage what i need is House/public WIFI to use YESlife for calling and sms....
Try it it work.... and it work for me....
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i had try my office line, it cannot connect yes life. is it because it is tm unifi?

This post has been edited by jeremy05: Dec 21 2010, 08:33 PM
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post Dec 21 2010, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(nkarul85 @ Dec 21 2010, 08:53 PM)
shah alam n puchong got YES coverage?
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post Dec 22 2010, 05:26 AM

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QUOTE(jeremy05 @ Dec 21 2010, 08:32 PM)
wonder why tm unifi can't use yes life? any1 face this problems?


Added on December 21, 2010, 8:33 pm

i had try my office line, it cannot connect yes life. is it because it is tm unifi?
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yes, me too

office unifi can't use

home streamyx also can't use
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post Dec 22 2010, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(steventan85 @ Dec 21 2010, 05:34 PM)
can i MNP from DIGI to YES ?
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lol no


QUOTE(eddie_lim @ Dec 22 2010, 05:26 AM)
yes, me too

office unifi can't use

home streamyx also can't use
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my home streamyx can connect to yes life. but cant call thou...
shahrul_sama
post Dec 22 2010, 02:48 PM

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today i cannot enter some sites like low yat and soya cincau using YES ...anyone got same problem?
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post Dec 22 2010, 05:23 PM

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Enjoy using Yes Life during my oversea trip. Make calls and work with my laptop at the same time.
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post Dec 22 2010, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(jeremy05 @ Dec 21 2010, 06:22 PM)
yes, this is bad features! when i am in place no yes connection, i cant use it, even i can go to internet by line or wifi...


Added on December 21, 2010, 6:24 pm

currently i think no, because yes didnt provide sim card, it just like p1 without sim, this is actually more like wifi, actually it is wimax...
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i think that claim is not 100% correct, last time i use it i can connect to yes life using my office internet connection using streamyx & time

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post Dec 23 2010, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(mas_chan @ Dec 22 2010, 05:23 PM)
Enjoy using Yes Life during my oversea trip. Make calls and work with my laptop at the same time.
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U mean u use normal internet to connect to Yes life at oversea? may i know which country ?

QUOTE(faizalmzain @ Dec 22 2010, 11:59 PM)
i think that claim is not 100% correct, last time i use it i can connect to yes life using my office internet connection using streamyx & time
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my office also cannot, but home stimix can..sometimes is firewall blocked...
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post Dec 23 2010, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(faizalmzain @ Dec 22 2010, 11:59 PM)
i think that claim is not 100% correct, last time i use it i can connect to yes life using my office internet connection using streamyx & time
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did you try tm unifi as well? i think streamyx sure can, since you had prove it. is it because block by unifi modem(firewall)???
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QUOTE(aneip @ Dec 21 2010, 10:30 AM)
YTL is targeting different group than P1. Most people interested with P1 will not attracted with YTL. Nobody will want to pay for RM 450+ for 15GB which P1 offer for 130. Unless they want to go for speed (which I believe will not last long).
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One fellow I talked with said this to me when we were discussing Yes: You take 1 hour to download a movie on Yes, but take 2 days to download on other telco. So you get it 47 hours earlier. Now lets say if someone ask you to refund back your 47 hours of your life how much would you charge them? I think this way of thinking makes sense.....

The calling on Yeslife sometimes it is hit or miss. I've managed to call via Streamyx, but sometimes it's puzzlingly down. Maybe they are still tweaking the Yes Life backend. Who knows, their support is notoriously silent. I suspect there was a network outage 2 days ago also, couldn't connect, but no news about it so I'll never know for sure. Their twitter feed should tell us these things instead of talk nonsense about cats and have fights with bloggers.
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post Dec 23 2010, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(Forum-Modding Newb @ Dec 23 2010, 09:12 PM)
One fellow I talked with said this to me when we were discussing Yes: You take 1 hour to download a movie on Yes, but take 2 days to download on other telco. So you get it 47 hours earlier. Now lets say if someone ask you to refund back your 47 hours of your life how much would you charge them? I think this way of thinking makes sense.....

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When talking there are multiple way of thinking. A reason, willingness, value and so on. Sometime 1 + 1 can be 11 rather than 2. RM 100 maybe get you a dinner but for someone else maybe 1 week of dinner.

As for your point, I would said rather than wasting 1 hour of your life, RM 120 (4GB) of your money, RM 50 for a movie (Does anyone know the price to be paid to download a movie legally??) I would said drop at speedy and get the Bluray which is legal + 50GB of content for RM 100.

Also, you paid RM120 for your 1 hour of download on YES but RM88 a month which can download 100GB/month. That's RM 3000 on YES.



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QUOTE(aneip @ Dec 23 2010, 11:38 PM)
When talking there are multiple way of thinking. A reason, willingness, value and so on.  Sometime 1 + 1 can be 11 rather than 2. RM 100 maybe get you a dinner but for someone else maybe 1 week of dinner.

As for your point, I would said rather than wasting 1 hour of your life, RM 120 (4GB) of your money, RM 50 for a movie (Does anyone know the price to be paid to download a movie legally??) I would said drop at speedy and get the Bluray which is legal + 50GB of content for RM 100.

Also, you paid RM120 for your 1 hour of download on YES but RM88 a month which can download 100GB/month. That's RM 3000 on YES.
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You're right. That's why you can't compare a RM88/month landline with a mobile wireless broadband line like Yes. Unifi's VIP5 which is at RM149/month with a 2 year commitment which adds up to RM3,576 + RM200 installation, and had an initial download cap of 60GB/month. So RM3,776 is the entry TCO (total cost of ownership) of the VIP5 line.

Compare that with a much lower entry level of Yes due to no contract, with a different usage pattern because it is mobile (when you come out of the house you're supposed to be doing something, not downloading large files like a madman/woman). Sure, RM3,776 will get you only around 177GB on Yes but you then have to cost in the premium of

1. mobility
2. no contract
3. the ability to login using one account on multiple devices at multiple locations (1 Yes ID can login to 3 Huddles concurrently)

how much of a premium would you pay for the 3 features above? Additional 20%? 30%? It's even more dude, when you consider a fixed line call is approximately 4 sen/min and a mobile line call is around 12 sen, that's a x3 premium right there just for mobility!

Simple example, you compare personal loan with credit card. Personal loan can give you larger loan amount, lower interest, etc. because they know for the next 20 years you're stuck with them. Credit card limit is low, interest is crazy high, but it's a lot easier entry level and you can potong the card anytime. Same thing, Unifi is like personal/housing loan, Yes is like credit card in theory. Different usage totally, you don't hear people say "damn I don't get a credit card because personal loan give me more money with lower interest!", isn't it? biggrin.gif

And by the way, 4GB on Yes is RM82 only not RM120. I think that's one of the weaknesses of YTL's pricing structure, and specifically the cube. People look at it and make a mental calculation: download 10GB = RM300! When it's only RM210, which is a big difference imho. I don't like the concept of the cube at all, I foresee when they want to come up with new packages they will need to design a new cube, because the cube only got 2 sidefaces, which severely limits innovative pricing plans. No point putting their blue cube there but then all the important info like new promotion or additional rebate is a block of text which doesn't appear in the adverts.

The cube doesn't show the rebate portion which is very important.
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post Dec 24 2010, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(Forum-Modding Newb @ Dec 24 2010, 01:59 AM)
You're right. That's why you can't compare a RM88/month landline with a mobile wireless broadband line like Yes. Unifi's VIP5 which is at RM149/month with a 2 year commitment which adds up to RM3,576 + RM200 installation, and had an initial download cap of 60GB/month. So RM3,776 is the entry TCO (total cost of ownership) of the VIP5 line.

Compare that with a much lower entry level of Yes due to no contract, with a different usage pattern because it is mobile (when you come out of the house you're supposed to be doing something, not downloading large files like a madman/woman). Sure, RM3,776 will get you only around 177GB on Yes but you then have to cost in the premium of

1. mobility
2. no contract
3. the ability to login using one account on multiple devices at multiple locations (1 Yes ID can login to 3 Huddles concurrently)

how much of a premium would you pay for the 3 features above? Additional 20%? 30%? It's even more dude, when you consider a fixed line call is approximately 4 sen/min and a mobile line call is around 12 sen, that's a x3 premium right there just for mobility!

Simple example, you compare personal loan with credit card. Personal loan can give you larger loan amount, lower interest, etc. because they know for the next 20 years you're stuck with them. Credit card limit is low, interest is crazy high, but it's a lot easier entry level and you can potong the card anytime. Same thing, Unifi is like personal/housing loan, Yes is like credit card in theory. Different usage totally, you don't hear people say "damn I don't get a credit card because personal loan give me more money with lower interest!", isn't it? biggrin.gif

And by the way, 4GB on Yes is RM82 only not RM120. I think that's one of the weaknesses of YTL's pricing structure, and specifically the cube. People look at it and make a mental calculation: download 10GB = RM300! When it's only RM210, which is a big difference imho. I don't like the concept of the cube at all, I foresee when they want to come up with new packages they will need to design a new cube, because the cube only got 2 sidefaces, which severely limits innovative pricing plans. No point putting their blue cube there but then all the important info like new promotion or additional rebate is a block of text which doesn't appear in the adverts.

The cube doesn't show the rebate portion which is very important.
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+1 bro

nobody in their right mind would consider YES for heavy torrenting/MU/RS. It's just for a different market to compete with those 3G telcos & never intended to compete with fixed line telcos.

That is is also why we have proton, perodua, toyota, honda, bmw, merc, ferrari lambo etc. to cater different needs and budget.

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QUOTE(yoda @ Dec 24 2010, 09:35 AM)
+1 bro

nobody in their right mind would consider YES for heavy torrenting/MU/RS. It's just for a different market to compete with those 3G telcos & never intended to compete with fixed line telcos.

That is is also why we have proton, perodua, toyota, honda, bmw, merc, ferrari lambo etc. to cater different needs and budget.
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good post, summarize everything regarding the issue rclxms.gif
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post Dec 24 2010, 10:09 AM

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Bought the huddle for my dad after cancelling the Maxis data services (save RM 68). His usage very low, average 20-30 bucks a month. Perfect and faster too. Plus, no contract.
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QUOTE(yoda @ Dec 24 2010, 09:35 AM)
+1 bro

nobody in their right mind would consider YES for heavy torrenting/MU/RS. It's just for a different market to compete with those 3G telcos & never intended to compete with fixed line telcos.

That is is also why we have proton, perodua, toyota, honda, bmw, merc, ferrari lambo etc. to cater different needs and budget.
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Agreed also. My reply before also wanna summarize a same thing. Maybe I can't get the right words. If just different people needs different thing.

As for a VOICE, I would like to point out again no point to compare the rate with GSM, try to compare will VOIP such as pennytel.

I believe YES will come out with another package soon. Their so called 1 package for all will only cater for 1 group of user. I agreed on simply/minimal package but not 1 maybe around 3-5.

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