No, i think he meant to ask why the SA said there is EBD and BA in the 1.6EX when it doesnt have right? The 1.6EX only has ABS i believe. The 1.6SX has the ABS, EBD and BA.

Of course. Its part of the Electronic Stability Program (ESP) package. Both the 1.6SX and 2.0SX have the same braking systems & features except for the additional airbags in the 2.0SX

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Oct 1 2010, 01:59 PM

The same reason why they have Wira's and Kancil's as police cars too.

Dont forget that the Forte is marketed by Naza, who is another Gov crony.

The reason for that is probably due to the fact that since the car is new, its fuel consumption figures will not be accurate. It will need to be run in properly before you can make an accurate assessment. Only those who got the car late last year or early this year will be able to provide an accurate assessment.

U can make a rough assessment based on the 0-100kmph acceleration for the same category of car. Meaning if an Altis 1.8 takes 10secs and the Forte takes 12secs, the most probably the Forte's fuel consumption is slightly higher than the Altis.

The reasoning behind this is that the 0-100kmph dash is a reflection of the power:weight ratio of the car which is derived from the efficiency of the engine & the transmission.

But this is just a general application in order to roughly assume fuel consumption rates. And its only applicable for cars of the same engine capacity or close. So it can be used for cars within the 1.5-1.8L category. But many other factors also affect the fuel consumption data so its always difficult to pin down a single determining factor.

Cheers!

Sorry i dont quite understand your meter readings. Juru tol and Sunway tol both same ODO readings? Maybe im overlooking something here. Care to explain?

Please clarify my query on your fuel consumption. Still waiting. Thanks!

Thats really good fuel consumption if u ask me. Your average fuel consumption was 15.3km/L. My Vios only managed to get 15km/L for 100% highway driving.

Did u take your foot off the pedal when u took this pic or was it maintained?

OK. Overlooked that. My bad.

Whats the meaning of 'balanced used until finish'? Does it mean u used 43.7L to travel 330km or what? Very confusing le.

Wow 3.25% eh? Dunno why all this Naza and Proton interest rates always more than foreign makes. They should also absorb like Toyota and Honda. Now both of them offering about 2.9% for 7 yrs loan only.

So meaning he drove 605km with 43.7L of fuel. Thats mixed driving with 55% highway and 45% city. So his consumption was 13.8km/L only la. So the consumption is kinda normal la. Vios is 13km/L for 100% city and 15km/L for 100% highway and that also ppl say is not good.

Can anybody provide fuel consumption figures for 100% city driving? Thats when ull see just how good the consumption is because its known fact that high cc cars consume less fuel on highways compared to lower cc cars at the same speed. But different story for city driving.

Dont forget the fuel meter drops much slower in the first half compared to the 2nd half. The reason is because the max reading of the meter doesnt reflect the max amount of fuel in the tank and in the fuel hoses which are consumed first before the needle starts to drop.

Using your consumption in the 1st half tank to assume u can cover the same distance with the 2nd half is wrong and inaccurate. Same for all cars. best way to measure consumption is by the 'fill-measure-use-fill again-measure' system which u did in your last post.

Cheers!

Of course i know everything depends on driving habits la. When we talk about fuel consumption here its on the basis that uve tried your best to achieve best fuel economy. Same as me. Although my vios full tank (42L) can take me 550km in the city but i dont get that because i drive fast as my fuel aint paid by me.

No point giving figures when fuel light lights up. Different cars can tahan longer. How much is your consumption for 100% city driving in KL?

This is not a discussion to compare with whatever car la. I just wanna know whats the fuel consumption for 100% city driving in Kl/PJ or whatever la. No big difference between KL and PJ ok. U can get stuck for 2 hrs even on Federal HW.

So whats your figures like?

Eh instead of driving around here and there and wasting fuel, why dont u drive around and look for some properties to invest in la. Ure just like a small kid with a new toy la. In about 1 yrs time, ull realise that a car is just to get u from A to B when all the hype and excitement is gone. In another 10 yrs ull realise that despite having a good car, many others would have overtaken you in terms of physical assets and work knowledge. If ure young now, try doing another degree or working yerself up the corporate ladder la. Why focus so much on a car? If u wanna have some discussions here then fine no problem. But to the extent of organising road trips here and there?...common la.

Just my 2 cents. Sorry if i offended anybody.

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Oct 5 2010, 11:12 AM

I said 1yrs time which means 1 yr from NOW Also when ppl say getting u from point A to B they mean the most practical way. For some getting a bike to get them around may be practical while it isnt for others.

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Oct 5 2010, 11:17 AM

Practicality also involves PEACE OF MIND. I wouldnt get that driving a Proton as i and about a million other Malaysians have had bad experiences there which we do not want to repeat. Also a Saga wont give me a relatively comfortable ride on long distance trips as the Vios has for the past 7.5 yrs. Again practicality. It covers many factors. But practicality does not cover the sports rims of your car or going on some silly around malaysia road show just to show the world u have a Forte. Thats silly and a waste opf time and money if u ask me. But then again im sure others will not agree.

What speed was your highway drive? Thats important factor as well. And yes compared to the Vios, the Forte is surely much better.