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 HTC Desire HD - officially launched in Asia Pac, The Ace has arrived. Soon to Malaysia

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post Oct 16 2010, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Oct 16 2010, 05:21 PM)
should i should i?? :/

since the froyo in SGS doesn't improve the performance,im thinking to jump ship  rclxub.gif
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performance is rated individually.. scoring a stock high quadrant such as 1900 for DHD does not mean that its super fast.. based on paper, SGS is the best and has the latest technology.. the SGS was fine i guess.. ive been using my dads sgs to browse and surf.. its quite fine as i applied lagfix on it.. upgrading to DHD would only worthit if u plan to get a bigger screen and have a reliabe GPS connection.. apart from that, its very personal to say and differ to one another bout performance
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QUOTE(ahtac @ Oct 17 2010, 01:20 AM)
u upgrade to froyo already for SGS?
but the performance improve drastically for n1 when upgraded
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ya,im using froyo and no,the performance still the same,laggy
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post Oct 16 2010, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Oct 16 2010, 10:33 PM)
ya,im using froyo and no,the performance still the same,laggy
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maybe the SGS was already snappy.. snapdragon and MSM based is the one who got the advantage of froyo since it has NEON enabled... Hummingbird does not need NEON and JIT to make it fast maybe.. perhaps it has its own optimization just like TI OMAPs... SGS just need some extra software fixes and the GPS thingy.. no wonder even DHD is not using the latest broadcomm bluetooth 3.0/wifi/gps chip as perhaps its not yet stable.. only SGS is using that new chip.. all other phones is still using the older one which is on bluetooth 2.1
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post Oct 16 2010, 11:38 PM

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First review of the phone..
http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/mobilephones/...5305089p,00.htm

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post Oct 17 2010, 01:20 AM

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QUOTE(bossnass15 @ Oct 16 2010, 11:38 PM)
The WVGA (800 x 480-pixel) 4.3-inch screen is one of the largest you can get for any mobile phone. Like the latest batch of HTC Desire devices, this utilizes Sony's Super LCD (SLCD) rather than Samsung's AMOLED technology.
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post Oct 17 2010, 01:21 AM

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according to the review.. battery seems to be a problem hmm T.T
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post Oct 17 2010, 01:32 AM

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1. SLCD or NO SLCD is not a big fuss anymore.. people who is buying will buy.. just go with the flow or wait for one more year since 4.3 is only released once a year by htc..

2. Batterylife is common.. 15hours was great already, i drain my batt to 30 usually in just 12hours when im using htc desire.. DHD has a bigger screen and a lower mAh so sure its gonna drain faster..
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QUOTE(pluginbaby @ Oct 17 2010, 01:32 AM)
1. SLCD or NO SLCD is not a big fuss anymore.. people who is buying will buy.. just go with the flow or wait for one more year since 4.3 is only released once a year by htc..

2. Batterylife is common.. 15hours was great already, i drain my batt to 30 usually in just 12hours when im using htc desire.. DHD has a bigger screen and a lower mAh so sure its gonna drain faster..
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It's still mind boggling why DHD only squeezed in a 1230mAh batt when the desire can fit in 1500mAh doh.gif doh.gif
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post Oct 17 2010, 08:24 AM

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do you guys think that there will be 3rd party battery with higher mAh for DHD?
and the locations does not use GoogleMaps, I wonder if they got malaysia map in it..
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QUOTE(Ahkwang @ Oct 17 2010, 02:15 AM)
It's still mind boggling why DHD only squeezed in a 1230mAh batt when the desire can fit in 1500mAh  doh.gif  doh.gif
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this is all about the unibody design ==" .. they could not fit a larger battery due to that.. they should go for an ugly back and put in 1700 =="

QUOTE(four_add @ Oct 17 2010, 08:24 AM)
do you guys think that there will be 3rd party battery with higher mAh for DHD?
and the locations does not use GoogleMaps, I wonder if they got malaysia map in it..
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i was looking forward for 3rd party batteries from seido and mugen too.. lets up just hope there would be 1500-1600 mAh at the same size.. but, does it happen to htc legend?
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post Oct 17 2010, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(pluginbaby @ Oct 17 2010, 08:38 AM)
this is all about the unibody design ==" .. they could not fit a larger battery due to that.. they should go for an ugly back and put in 1700 =="
i was looking forward for 3rd party batteries from seido and mugen too.. lets up just hope there would be 1500-1600 mAh at the same size.. but, does it happen to htc legend?
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I have seen 3rd party batteries that was even rated for double the capacities of the original ones (not DHD or Desire batteries). basically speaking Li-ion batteries have not really evolved at the rate computer chips, so even if you do see some 3rd party batteries rated higher then the originals - buy it with lots of doubt.

Besides - what is really stopping the 3rd party manufacturer from claiming that his battery is 10000000mhA when it only holds 1000mhA? If they managed such technological breakthrough they will be winning the nobel prize. blush.gif
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QUOTE(CocoMonGo @ Oct 17 2010, 08:57 AM)
I have seen 3rd party batteries that was even rated for double the capacities of the original ones (not DHD or Desire batteries). basically speaking Li-ion batteries have not really evolved at the rate computer chips, so even if you do see some 3rd party batteries rated higher then the originals - buy it with lots of doubt.

Besides - what is really stopping the 3rd party manufacturer from claiming that his battery is 10000000mhA when it only holds 1000mhA? If they managed such technological breakthrough they will be winning the nobel prize.  blush.gif
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well said mate, it is true that 3rd party batteries does not show the true mAh since the efficiency of the battery is lower compared to original official battery.. thus for an example, a 1600mAh 3rd party might only be rated at 75% efficiency leaving us with approx 1400+-mAh of usable battery juice..

a good read of extended battery for HTC Legend which is originally came with 1300mAh, mugen supplied a 1800mAh without the need of using a 3rd party back (exactly same size of the original one..

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread...t=693367&page=8
battery link = http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/mugen...00-1800mah.html

i wonder if the battery for Desire HD is the same as any other model, it would be a pain to wait for Mugen or Seido to release one so if there is any compatible size/type, we could grab our hands on it... how bout a bulk order if many is interested in grabbing it? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Oct 16 2010, 10:33 PM)
ya,im using froyo and no,the performance still the same,laggy
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i check someone using an official froyo firmware,and says that the performance was really smooth ( this is in Facebook for SGS )
compare to eclair.
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QUOTE(hxcpride @ Oct 17 2010, 10:17 AM)
i check someone using an official froyo firmware,and says that  the performance was really smooth ( this is in Facebook for SGS )
compare to eclair.
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Performance rating differs from person to person.. and i guess the SGS already have tons of Eclair based firmware which is running better compared to the one shipped so perhaps some of it has already close to be on par with the Froyo based. I believe that hihihehe has his own judgement and i accept every of his comments on the SGS since i see him as a hardcore SGS user.
The issue of performance and benchmarking is really a big debate as benchmark dosent prove how snappy it is. Try minimizing the benchmark app and do some other stuff in terms of daily usage such as browsing and multitasking, does the previous benchmark shows that everything would be smooth? I guess not everytime..
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QUOTE(pluginbaby @ Oct 17 2010, 10:00 AM)
well said mate, it is true that 3rd party batteries does not show the true mAh since the efficiency of the battery is lower compared to original official battery.. thus for an example, a 1600mAh 3rd party might only be rated at 75% efficiency leaving us with approx 1400+-mAh of usable battery juice..

a good read of extended battery for HTC Legend which is originally came with 1300mAh, mugen supplied a 1800mAh without the need of using a 3rd party back (exactly same size of the original one..

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread...t=693367&page=8
battery link = http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/mugen...00-1800mah.html

i wonder if the battery for Desire HD is the same as any other model, it would be a pain to wait for Mugen or Seido to release one so if there is any compatible size/type, we could grab our hands on it... how bout a bulk order if many is interested in grabbing it?  tongue.gif
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so, does the mugen battery not good hmm.gif
i'm thinking to get one for my current wildfire!
its only shipping cost that set me back.
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QUOTE(koinibler @ Oct 17 2010, 10:38 AM)
so, does the mugen battery not good hmm.gif
i'm thinking to get one for my current wildfire!
its only shipping cost that set me back.
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so far, i hear that Seido and Mugen was rated the highest as a 3rd party supplier in terms of their battery efficiency.. Try to browse through XDA over HTC Evo 4G and Droid Incredible, they recommends Seido and Mugen. The risk of having a lower efficiency happens to other battery suppliers i guess. Mugen and Seido is the one which is reliable based on source. They are also reviewed on Engadget a long while ago.
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when is DHD coming out in malaysia? november? reckon how much the price will be? hmm.gif
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post Oct 17 2010, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(hxcpride @ Oct 17 2010, 10:51 AM)
when is DHD coming out in malaysia? november? reckon how much the price will be? hmm.gif
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the phone has already reach the hands of some users in Europe.. this shows that the shipping may has started already and the device passed the Google testing phase and obtained approval already.. some say it will be available early to mid of november in Malaysia (hopefully)... estimated price of 2399 maybe.. given the record of HTC android devices for this year, maybe it would be around that price range or slightly lower
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QUOTE(hxcpride @ Oct 17 2010, 01:17 PM)
i check someone using an official froyo firmware,and says that  the performance was really smooth ( this is in Facebook for SGS )
compare to eclair.
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i guess that only applies after they play it for first 10 minutes after flash to official firmware..

try install back all the apps(above 50 apps) and see how the performance goes..
and i the connection speed is slower compare to eclair(not sure why)..

but better discuss this on SGS thread...
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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Oct 17 2010, 11:37 AM)
i guess that only applies after they play it for first 10 minutes after flash to official firmware..

try install back all the apps(above 50 apps) and see how the performance goes..
and i the connection speed is slower compare to eclair(not sure why)..

but better discuss this on SGS thread...
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i am holding back selling off my SGS . Just wanna see how the official Froyo will perform. Tested 2 unofficial Froyo roms and disappointed, do not find any major improvements. The lag and slow launch of programs is still there, only marginal improvements

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