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cskean
post Apr 28 2005, 07:25 PM

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Strange, mine here works like this.

Mini on with bluetooth, and my logitech is on too. No symbol at this moment.
When I make/receive a call, the symbol sometimes will appear and sometimes not.
Then after I'm done with the call, sometimes the symbol remain there and sometimes it disappear.

Another thing I want ro confirm is, if I receive a call when my bluetooth handsfree is on, if I press the answer key in my mini, izzit normal that the call will be automatically answer from the phone and not the bluetooth handsfree? Just want to assure only, expert pls comment. smile.gif
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post Apr 28 2005, 08:12 PM

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Hello everyone,

I m quite a baby still in this IT savy world of yours. Unfortunately, I have crazy colleagues who keep convincing me to buy the mini O2 to keep my data, information and phone features in one device.

So now, is this mini O2 a user friendly device so that i can learn to use it in a short period of time? The three of us intends to buy the mini together next week, would we be entitled to some sort of a discount?

If I activated the wifi feature, does it mean that i can receive email at places like starbucks and coffee bean?

I ve also heard comments that I shd wait for the 3g fone to come out before buying the mini O2. whats your comment?

however, i kinda fall in love with the size of the mini O2. Please help with your points of view, i know the questions are rather stupid but i'll appreciate each and every one of them. Thanks

Ophelia


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post Apr 28 2005, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(Pennywise @ Apr 28 2005, 09:28 AM)
Maybe we should have this topic stickied. I know I'll probably abuse this thread anyway cause no one was really answering to mine.

I got my O2 XDA Mini for RM2500 two days ago, original set. I know the cost of O2 XDA Mini in most places is RM2400 - RM2450, I still hutang the shop, havent pay wan. Heh! I love it. So far, I've only used the phone function. Still trying to find some free time to sit down and key in all my notes and appointment times.

I dont have much questions left, except for one... How do you scroll down if your message consist of 4 - 5 sms long?
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Dear Penny, which shop is this? thanks

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post Apr 28 2005, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(cskean @ Apr 28 2005, 07:25 PM)
Strange, mine here works like this.

Mini on with bluetooth, and my logitech is on too. No symbol at this moment.
When I make/receive a call, the symbol sometimes will appear and sometimes not.
Then after I'm done with the call, sometimes the symbol remain there and sometimes it disappear.

Another thing I want ro confirm is, if I receive a call when my bluetooth handsfree is on, if I press the answer key in my mini, izzit normal that the call will be automatically answer from the phone and not the bluetooth handsfree? Just want to assure only, expert pls comment. smile.gif
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I have a feeling it depends on what headset is paired with the Mini. Maybe other Mini users who also use a BT headset can shed some light on this? Mine, as I mentioned stays there (the headphone like symbol), until I switch off the BT on either one of the units.

QUOTE(Ophelia @ Apr 28 2005, 08:12 PM)
Hello everyone,

I m quite a baby still in this IT savy world of yours. Unfortunately, I have crazy colleagues who keep convincing me to buy the mini O2 to keep my data, information and phone features in one device.

So now, is this mini O2 a user friendly device so that i can learn to use it in a short period of time? The three of us intends to buy the mini together next week, would we be entitled to some sort of a discount?

If I activated the wifi feature, does it mean that i can receive email at places like starbucks and coffee bean?

I ve also heard comments that I shd wait for the 3g fone to come out before buying the mini O2. whats your comment?

however, i kinda fall in love with the size of the mini O2. Please help with your points of view, i know the questions are rather stupid but i'll appreciate each and every one of them. Thanks

Ophelia
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Hi there,

Mini is quite user friendly, as I believe most of us are familiar with the desktop version of the Windows, and the Mini uses a mobile version of it. So you'll get used to it pretty fast. Just don't expect it to function like the normal phones with keypads that we're so used to.

WiFi, you need to buy an additional WiFi SD card, and that'll set you back another RM 300 + at the minimum. With that only you can use WiFi as the Mini by default does not come equipped with WiFi.

3G phone, well depends on what are your needs. 3G is basically about higher data speed compared to the current supported speed. If you don't use much of the data services now, will you use it when 3G services are available? When I saw current data services, I mean GPRS and EDGE. Do you use them often? If no, do you forsee yourself using them if 3G is eventually available?

And I'm almost sure that it's pretty hard to get discounts when you're buying multiple sets of Mini, as this is a hot item, and dealers know that no matter how high the price, there still would be people buying it.

Lastly, happy choosing. biggrin.gif

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post Apr 28 2005, 09:04 PM

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O2 mini is a must-have-gadget ! hehe
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post Apr 28 2005, 11:49 PM

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got one question....

i installed a game called 'warring states' into my mini and when i try to start it, a page came out and ask me to download some visual basic stuff before i can play the game....the link to download the files is dead

i tried downloading from microsoft but wat i got was not an installation file but a lot of unknown files

anyone can help me with this embedded visual basic runtime thing??

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post Apr 29 2005, 12:48 AM

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cskean,
Looks like your Logitech Bluetooth Headset and your O2 Mini dont go too well, considering sonyclie77's headset and O2 Mini is tuned at all times until he switches off the Bluetooth on either side.


sonyclie77,
Two questions please:
1. What Bluetooth Headset are you using and how much?
2. Where can I find some silicone case? I see the price in KL pretty expensive compared to the price on the net.


Ophelia,
The shop is in Klang town... called the KTS. I dont think you can 'hutang' them though k? I could cause they know my family personally and we've been buying phones from them since ages ago. Not sure if you could get it for RM2500 without mentioning my cousin's big name though.

To answer your questions. You dont need to be IT savvy to use an O2 Mini. You should understand INSTALL and REMOVE programs though. And if you know how to use Microsoft Outlook with e-mails, contacts, notes and appointment, you should have no problem handling the O2 Mini.

It is indeed a good way for you to organize your life, keep your data, appointment date, contacts information and etc in it. I just bought it for 3 days and I'm quite used to writting an SMS already. I went to gym today and while I was doing my cardio [cycling], my girlfriend sms-ed me and I replied... Phewwwitt... I knew it was all cool because both my left and right side girls were looking at me scribbling! Awesome feel!

Getting 3 units together is a lot. You could ask the shop for some discount though. It depends what shop. I hope you have a handphone or PDA shop that either your friends or you used to go/know for quite well. I'm sure you'll be able to bargain off probably another RM20/30 for each unit. It's still money!

WiFi feature, if activated [provided you have a WiFi account with TMNET], yes, you will be able to access e-mail, MSN and the internet in places like Starbucks / Coffee Bean. For your information, if you're already a Streamyx user, activating a WiFi account is only an additional RM10.

3G phones are coming out. I dont know how it will compare to O2. If you run on WiFi, O2 is cheaper. If you run on GPRS, I'm not sure cause I dont know the charges for GPRS nor 3G but I'll assume 3G is more expensive - as usual, the newer the technology, it will always cost more.
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ah_keh,
Where did you bought your silicone casing and how much?
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post Apr 29 2005, 12:51 AM

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QUOTE(Pennywise @ Apr 29 2005, 12:49 AM)
ah_keh,
Where did you bought your silicone casing and how much?
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Haha.. she's selling them. biggrin.gif You can PM her for more details, or click on her signature. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Pennywise @ Apr 29 2005, 12:48 AM)
sonyclie77,
Two questions please:
1. What Bluetooth Headset are you using and how much?
2. Where can I find some silicone case? I see the price in KL pretty expensive compared to the price on the net.
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1. Using SE HBH-200 and HBH-660 alternatively. Err... price I really forgot, I think its RM 500+ for the HBH-200 when it first came out >1 year ago, and RM 400+ for the HBH-660 when it was pretty new in the market. biggrin.gif

2. I bought mine from ah_keh. You can PM her for more details. biggrin.gif
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post Apr 29 2005, 01:01 AM

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ah_keh is a her... I see... Ok, I've just asked her on the other topic. I'll wait for her replies. Going to Lowyat tomorrow, will probably drop by Digital Gadgets to check things out.

Bluetooth headset really so expensive... Is there any particular reasons why you pick Motorola bluetooth headsets?
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post Apr 29 2005, 01:02 AM

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Okies... thanks!
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QUOTE(sonyclie77 @ Apr 29 2005, 12:51 AM)
Haha.. she's selling them. biggrin.gif You can PM her for more details, or click on her signature. biggrin.gif
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*ahem* someone became Moderator!! thumbup.gif
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post Apr 29 2005, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(kardock @ Apr 28 2005, 09:04 PM)
O2 mini is a must-have-gadget ! hehe
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I personally highly SECOND this....

Pennywise/sonyclie77,
At last, I've figure the bluetooth thingy already. Nothing went wrong on my mini or my logitech freedom.
The symbol indeed will remain there UNLESS i click on it and a window will pop out saying that 'Bluetooth Hands-free is on.' with and option button to 'Close'. If I press the button, the symbol will disappear. But if I tab some where else beside the button, the symbol will remain.
Eventually the symbol will once again appear when I'm making a new call the next time.
Makes me sweat.gif . But now I'm thumbup.gif kekeke

Still haven't familiar with those preloaded softwares by the shop keeper, but I'm planning to pay them a visit and ask them to load a set of it into my Kingmax 512mb SD. And in the same time, ask them to teach me 1 by 1, hopefully they will.... tongue.gif

Pennywise:
Do keep us update with the price/type of accessories that you buy when you come back from LYP tomolo...

I take this opportunity to congrat SONYCLIE77 for being one of the new mod in LYN. You deserve it, buddy~ thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

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post Apr 29 2005, 11:55 AM

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All of a sudden, I'm wondering whether the SD card can be removed when the Mini is turn on?

Beside that, what is the different between by pressing the power button to turn off the screen and leaving it till the backlight turn off automatically? Which will comsume more battery?

Anybody know how to active the speakerphone for this Mini? How the SQ?


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Ophelia,
The shop is in Klang town... called the KTS. I dont think you can 'hutang' them though k? I could cause they know my family personally and we've been buying phones from them since ages ago. Not sure if you could get it for RM2500 without mentioning my cousin's big name though.

To answer your questions. You dont need to be IT savvy to use an O2 Mini. You should understand INSTALL and REMOVE programs though. And if you know how to use Microsoft Outlook with e-mails, contacts, notes and appointment, you should have no problem handling the O2 Mini.

[COLOR=blue] Dear Pennywise, thanks for the prompt reply. I dont intend to hutang lah, I intend to fully swipe my credit card! My colleague got one yesterday, complete package at RM2688, he bought it at alamanda shopping centre.

I definitely can install and remove programs and my outlook has been my right hand in the office. Hmmmm, then I definitely MUST buy one, drool.gif

It is indeed a good way for you to organize your life, keep your data, appointment date, contacts information and etc in it. I just bought it for 3 days and I'm quite used to writting an SMS already. I went to gym today and while I was doing my cardio [cycling], my girlfriend sms-ed me and I replied... Phewwwitt... I knew it was all cool because both my left and right side girls were looking at me scribbling! Awesome feel!

Getting 3 units together is a lot. You could ask the shop for some discount though. It depends what shop. I hope you have a handphone or PDA shop that either your friends or you used to go/know for quite well. I'm sure you'll be able to bargain off probably another RM20/30 for each unit. It's still money!

[COLOR=blue] We dont have a particular shop that we go at lowyat often as we buy our fones everywhere. I guess RM26xx is a fair price to pay then?

WiFi feature, if activated [provided you have a WiFi account with TMNET], yes, you will be able to access e-mail, MSN and the internet in places like Starbucks / Coffee Bean. For your information, if you're already a Streamyx user, activating a WiFi account is only an additional RM10.

[COLOR=blue] I have an active streamyx account. My question if my line is a prepaid line, would it be WIFI compatible. Another question, as my office is in bangsar, is bangsar a hotspot or only the likes of starbucks, coffee bean?

3G phones are coming out. I dont know how it will compare to O2. If you run on WiFi, O2 is cheaper. If you run on GPRS, I'm not sure cause I dont know the charges for GPRS nor 3G but I'll assume 3G is more expensive - as usual, the newer the technology, it will always cost more.
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[COLOR=blue] unsure.gif dont even know whether I can imagine this 3g features yet, I guess I shd proceed with buying the O2, what say you Pennywise? In a serious need of affirmation to blow RM26xx! (hardearned mind you)

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[COLOR=blue] Dear Sonieclie 77,

Thanks for your tips. I ll buy you drinks if you are around bangsar the next time around smile.gif

Anyway, I posted a few more additional Qs for Pennywise, would be higly appreciative if you could highlight your points there. Thanks a million.


QUOTE(sonyclie77 @ Apr 28 2005, 07:58 PM)
I have a feeling it depends on what headset is paired with the Mini. Maybe other Mini users who also use a BT headset can shed some light on this? Mine, as I mentioned stays there (the headphone like symbol), until I switch off the BT on either one of the units.
Hi there,

Mini is quite user friendly, as I believe most of us are familiar with the desktop version of the Windows, and the Mini uses a mobile version of it. So you'll get used to it pretty fast. Just don't expect it to function like the normal phones with keypads that we're so used to.

WiFi, you need to buy an additional WiFi SD card, and that'll set you back another RM 300 + at the minimum. With that only you can use WiFi as the Mini by default does not come equipped with WiFi.

3G phone, well depends on what are your needs. 3G is basically about higher data speed compared to the current supported speed. If you don't use much of the data services now, will you use it when 3G services are available? When I saw current data services, I mean GPRS and EDGE. Do you use them often? If no, do you forsee yourself using them if 3G is eventually available?

And I'm almost sure that it's pretty hard to get discounts when you're buying multiple sets of Mini, as this is a hot item, and dealers know that no matter how high the price, there still would be people buying it.

Lastly, happy choosing. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(cskean @ Apr 29 2005, 11:55 AM)
All of a sudden, I'm wondering whether the SD card can be removed when the Mini is turn on?

Beside that, what is the different between by pressing the power button to turn off the screen and leaving it till the backlight turn off automatically? Which will comsume more battery?

Anybody know how to active the speakerphone for this Mini? How the SQ?
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SD Card? well i just plug it in/out whether the mini is on or off, coz even if it's off, when u plug in/out the SD Card, mini will lit up itself, but just close any application, or file explorer which are accesing resources from the SD Card before u pull out the SD Card

lol.. pressing or leave it till it turns off= just the same, to go in2 standby mode.
just that if u no longer use mini's function at the mo, press the power button to make it go standby mode faster, save more battery life perhaps? tongue.gif

during a Call, press n hold the call button/green symbol button till the msg pop out at the top, usually where notifications will appear, displayin speaker phone is on, with the appropriate icon/symbol

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do u guys off ur mini or u guys just leave it on like a normal mobile?
its a mobile pc after all tongue.gif do we need to off it to let it rest or something tongue.gif hahaha sorry for the noob question
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QUOTE(Ophelia @ Apr 29 2005, 12:21 PM)
I have an active streamyx account. My question if my line is a prepaid line, would it be WIFI compatible. Another question, as my office is in bangsar, is bangsar a hotspot or only the likes of starbucks, coffee bean?
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The nature of your mobile account, either prepaid or postpaid has got nothing to do with it being able to use WiFi or not. Rather, its more hardware related.

For the Mini, you just need to purchase an extra SD WiFi card to use your Mini at Hotspots around town. Many places in Bangsar is a Hotspot I believe, but its best to check with your wireless service provider.


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unsure.gif dont even know whether I can imagine this 3g features yet, I guess I shd proceed with buying the O2, what say you Pennywise? In a serious need of affirmation to blow RM26xx! (hardearned mind you)
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3G would most probably be expensive at its initial stage. Having said that, not many would take up the technology, save for early adopters. So unless you have a 'need for speed' in terms of data, you might not find 3G that useful for you, especially in the initial few months where only a handful are using it.

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