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post Apr 19 2005, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(Vampyr3 @ Apr 19 2005, 03:33 PM)
Lol....must be unofficial release then.......i thought guinsoo has quit making dota liao?
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no , he still developing new version with neichus team them , and yes , guinsoo quit making old version dota like 5.84 biggrin.gif
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post Apr 19 2005, 07:44 PM

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omg, sven rocks so hard! just won a 4v4 where my team was losing badly thanks to two early leavers. then me and phantom assassin started pwning everyone like mad, reached lvl25 and just cleared their base thumbup.gif laugh.gif

edit: was doing 1k++ crits with my burize. just a little lower then the phantom's laugh.gif killing that sand king was like slicing a hot knife through butter

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post Apr 19 2005, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(viNcee @ Apr 19 2005, 07:44 PM)
omg, sven rocks so hard! just won a 4v4 where my team was losing badly thanks to two early leavers. then me and phantom assassin started pwning everyone like mad, reached lvl25 and just cleared their base thumbup.gif laugh.gif

edit: was doing 1k++ crits with my burize. just a little lower then the phantom's laugh.gif killing that sand king was like slicing a hot knife through butter
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WHAHHAHAHAHHA!!!
told you sven is da bomb edi laugh.gif


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post Apr 19 2005, 09:59 PM

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Yeh! God's Strength is definitely Godlike!
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post Apr 20 2005, 12:39 AM

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i wanna ask
i already registered in the blueserver webby
but i didnt recieve any activation emails from them
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post Apr 20 2005, 02:03 AM

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QUOTE(ShinAsuka @ Apr 20 2005, 12:39 AM)
i wanna ask
i already registered in the blueserver webby
but i didnt recieve any activation emails from them
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Are we even permitted to talk about this here?

*cross fingers and hopes mods don't c this*
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post Apr 20 2005, 02:24 AM

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QUOTE(Vampyr3 @ Apr 20 2005, 02:03 AM)
Are we even permitted to talk about this here?

*cross fingers and hopes mods don't c this*
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ahhahhahh!
juz 2 pages for the new thread and "CLOSE"
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post Apr 20 2005, 02:34 AM

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Heh....nvm mah....i have level 6 reincarnation and aegis! Sure make a comeback!
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post Apr 20 2005, 02:59 AM

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won 3 games today playing sven laugh.gif thumbup.gif but i find that i have some problems defending my tower or lane. in all 3 games my lane had 2 towers down and the last tower severely damaged towards the game sweat.gif

but this was quickly remedied when i turned on god's strength and MoM and demolished all 3 towers and a barrack of that particular lane while my enemies were busy trying to attack my base and my teammates did a good job of defending the base without causing too much damage to the tower laugh.gif

btw played with the biggest sore loser of all. it was a 3v3 (i was using sven tongue.gif) and one of my allies got disconnected very early in the game. so it turned into 2v3. we were badly pushed but then we pulled the same thing again where i pushed and my sand king ally defended smile.gif won the game and guess what they messaged us? "rematch. fong sui only this game" doh.gif

so we rematched and we kicked their butts again in a 4v4 game... and another game my ally was really arrogant ler. just cause we knock all 3 towers down he typed to everyone "this game we sure win adi. wanna remake?" doh.gif nobody answered him of coz. luckilly that game win only but i really wouldn't have mind losing tongue.gif

anyway sorry ah making this my rant thread adi. laugh.gif
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post Apr 20 2005, 04:19 AM

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i don't see destroying towers as "sure win"
if one team is destroying towers and the other team is owning, the owning team will win cos once they push they'll just whack everything in their way
i played a game once where i was level 6 and they were in my base already (not my lane of course, and didn't bother to help cos i don't look at other lanes that early in the game)
well i went on a 25 kill spree after that (final stats 28-4...died 3 times while trying to push...first death was cos i was too heroic hahahaha)
could've won but i was just too busy defending and didn't think about manta (damn noob)
was using swapper and items were mkb, burize, butterfly, radiance, mask, treads.
ahahhaah damage +355
but was just defending the whole time cos early in the game i thought we'd lost already so didn't bother with anything else
defending all the way suddenly found out i had 11k+ (after burize) so i got my butterfly and mkb
if only i'd pushed sooner with a manta we'd have won but didn't think of it
oh and it was a 3v5 game with me on the 3 side cos 2 idiots left cos one blamed the other for stealing his stuff...jeeez
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post Apr 20 2005, 04:31 AM

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no i do not see destorying of towers as as "sure win" myself but that's what my n00bish allies thought. i was rather pissed cause the way they played just totally showed how 101% noobish they were and yet they talk like they're some pro. i was really tempted to turn on my bkb and give them some serious spanking tongue.gif

i have played many games where we lost all of the outer towers and yet still manage to win the game in the end. was using techies and concentrated all out on defending and then using the cash to pump my allies smile.gif
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post Apr 20 2005, 06:21 AM

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QUOTE(viNcee @ Apr 20 2005, 02:59 AM)
won 3 games today playing sven laugh.gif thumbup.gif but i find that i have some problems defending my tower or lane. in all 3 games my lane had 2 towers down and the last tower severely damaged towards the game sweat.gif

but this was quickly remedied when i turned on god's strength and MoM and demolished all 3 towers and a barrack of that particular lane while my enemies were busy trying to attack my base and my teammates did a good job of defending the base without causing too much damage to the tower laugh.gif

btw played with the biggest sore loser of all. it was a 3v3 (i was using sven tongue.gif) and one of my allies got disconnected very early in the game. so it turned into 2v3. we were badly pushed but then we pulled the same thing again where i pushed and my sand king ally defended smile.gif won the game and guess what they messaged us? "rematch. fong sui only this game" doh.gif

so we rematched and we kicked their butts again in a 4v4 game... and another game my ally was really arrogant ler. just cause we knock all 3 towers down he typed to everyone "this game we sure win adi. wanna remake?" doh.gif nobody answered him of coz. luckilly that game win only but i really wouldn't have mind losing tongue.gif

anyway sorry ah making this my rant thread adi. laugh.gif
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conclusion:
1 pro Sven = no need to play + gg
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sanjikun: not unless the pro sven is ganged by a med (purge) + lina (laguna blade + dagon) + lion (finger + dagon)

i don't see how he can pwn when he's dead, even with bkb laugh.gif tongue.gif
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post Apr 20 2005, 10:33 AM

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What do u all think if I use Lina with desolator and hyperstone..
From start I just keep upgrade stat if available and 3rd skill....
The first skill (dragon salve) I wait until lvl 21 only choose it....
I just keep using the stun then hit hit hit after that laguna....

I just want all ur comment about this build...
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QUOTE(thteong82 @ Apr 20 2005, 10:33 AM)
What do u all think if I use Lina with desolator and hyperstone..
From start I just keep upgrade stat if available and 3rd skill....
The first skill (dragon salve) I wait until lvl 21 only choose it....
I just keep using the stun then hit hit hit after that laguna....

I just want all ur comment about this build...
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Might works. But that depends on who you playing against and their strategy deployment.
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post Apr 20 2005, 01:22 PM

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sanjikun: not unless the pro sven is ganged by a med (purge) + lina (laguna blade + dagon) + lion (finger + dagon)

i don't see how he can pwn when he's dead, even with bkb


with bkb, you can't do any of those things to him
you can't purge nor do the quad finger
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by the time the avatar is gone, sven would've probably killed lina and/or lion already if not all three
15 seconds plus mask plus godstrength would just kill the two intel dudes pretty fast since they got dagon their life would be pretty low tongue.gif
if they have aghanim/booster + dagon then sven would be having bkb, burize, mkb by then and he'll still own biggrin.gif
conclusion, a sven who is fed is cheating
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huh: you forget that all those spells go through bkb........and when you gang sven, i supppose you gang him by flanking him and not all 3 running at him when he has bkb on.......
he can only chase one hero.......med would also be doing some decent damage as well......
all in all, if flanked by the above scenario, a sven would go down..... (provided the team has decent teamwork)

note: he has to go god's strength before bkb (if i recall correctly), thus enabling a 'chance' for the team to cast all their spells before either one being bolted

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post Apr 20 2005, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(huh @ Apr 20 2005, 01:22 PM)
with bkb, you can't do any of those things to him
you can't purge nor do the quad finger
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not sure bout purge but i know finger goes through bkb cause finger is taken as physical damage smile.gif


QUOTE(xtr4 @ Apr 20 2005, 02:29 PM)
note: he has to go god's strength before bkb (if i recall correctly), thus enabling a 'chance' for the team to cast all their spells before either one being bolted
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bkb must be activated first before god's strength or MoM as avatar will cancel both effects if activated later. happened to me once doh.gif
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What do u all think if I use Lina with desolator and hyperstone..
From start I just keep upgrade stat if available and 3rd skill....
The first skill (dragon salve) I wait until lvl 21 only choose it....
I just keep using the stun then hit hit hit after that laguna....


Personally I prefer the caster build even though Lina has the ultimate to supplement her attacking power as her nuking skills are really strong. But this might work depending on the opponents. For example, if your opponent has low hp heroes like Pugna and Drow Ranger I think it would be much more efficient to go for the caster build
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huh: you forget that all those spells go through bkb........and when you gang sven, i supppose you gang him by flanking him and not all 3 running at him when he has bkb on.......
he can only chase one hero.......med would also be doing some decent damage as well......
all in all, if flanked by the above scenario, a sven would go down..... (provided the team has decent teamwork)


haahahahha
whoops my stupid mistake
finger and laguna would go through but not dagon
i doubt purge would go through avatar cos if it did, sven is pretty useless
just buy a diffusal and sven is a goner and he can't do much anymore
its possible to take down a powered up sven, just hard and requires more than one hero
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