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 US stock discussion v3, Double Bottom coming?

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ingky
post Sep 29 2010, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(honglun @ Sep 29 2010, 10:32 PM)
I wonder C, BAC and FAS will rebound? ANybody have any idea? I'm locked in at 4.54$, 18.72$ and 26.50$ respectively. These stocks r killing my portfolio. vmad.gif
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Ouch. Depends if you're a Buy and Hold person. I'd let FAS go if I were you but the others you can hold. Financials will rebound by year's end.
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post Sep 29 2010, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(ingky @ Sep 29 2010, 10:36 PM)
Ouch. Depends if you're a Buy and Hold person. I'd let FAS go if I were you but the others you can hold. Financials will rebound by year's end.
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Why so on year end? Any ideas? Y let FAS go? if financial sector were to rebound, I think FAS would be the most rebound exposure. I've not been keeping up with news on the financial sector cause I was concentrating on tech. And I didn't check my portfolio for a month+ till last week. rclxub.gif
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post Sep 29 2010, 11:12 PM

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3X ETFs like FAS and FAZ are a hedging ETF with an uncommon trading pattern which trends downwards over time despite following market sentiments. There are lots of articles explaining this phenomenon. (Do a google search)

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post Sep 29 2010, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(honglun @ Sep 29 2010, 10:53 PM)
Why so on year end? Any ideas? Y let FAS go? if financial sector were to rebound, I think FAS would be the most rebound exposure. I've not been keeping up with news on the financial sector cause I was concentrating on tech. And I didn't check my portfolio for a month+ till last week. rclxub.gif
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depends on your total exposure. Is your account on margin? if yes, then time to scalp others loh. Like me, I go for S or eying for MU. For C, better pickup some more to average down.

C and BAC is worth to keep for long term. Not that 3x ETF
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post Sep 30 2010, 01:24 AM

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Correct.. the 3x ETFs are not for buy and hold. They're just for trading and leveraging on market momentum.
They'll decay overtime. 3x ETF like FAS/FAZ are very dangerous. brows.gif

The underlying Financial index (XLF) still below 200MA. Once this get broken, you'll see FAS rally like crazy.
I'm not buying FAS until this occurs.

C - finally moved up to $3.9.. it needs to break above $4 and stay there for it to remain bullish. thumbup.gif

Closing update
Dow 10835.28 -22.86 -0.21%
Nasdaq 2376.56 -3.03 -0.13%
S&P500 1144.73 -2.97 -0.26%

Pretty much a flat day today.. the pull back allows me to exit some of my shorts with small profits. biggrin.gif
But, i think we're close to a break out to the upside soon if there aren't any more bad news to bring this back down.

FUQI receives final delisting notice from NASDAQ but they plan to appeal during the hearing.
Not sure if they can complete filing in 10 days time or not.

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post Sep 30 2010, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Sep 30 2010, 01:24 AM)
Correct.. the 3x ETFs are not for buy and hold. They're just for trading and leveraging on market momentum.
They'll decay overtime. 3x ETF like FAS/FAZ are very dangerous.  brows.gif

The underlying Financial index (XLF) still below 200MA. Once this get broken, you'll see FAS rally like crazy.
I'm not buying FAS until this occurs.

C - finally moved up to $3.9.. it needs to break above $4 and stay there for it to remain bullish.  thumbup.gif

Closing update
Dow 10835.28 -22.86 -0.21%
Nasdaq 2376.56 -3.03 -0.13%
S&P500 1144.73 -2.97 -0.26%

Pretty much a flat day today.. the pull back allows me to exit some of my shorts with small profits.  biggrin.gif
But, i think we're close to a break out to the upside soon if there aren't any more bad news to bring this back down.

FUQI receives final delisting notice from NASDAQ but they plan to appeal during the hearing.
Not sure if they can complete filing in 10 days time or not.
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DMC, what do you mean by "decay overtime"? Thanks.
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post Sep 30 2010, 04:06 PM

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Read this article regarding 3x ETF decays

FAS/FAZ decay overtime

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post Sep 30 2010, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(ingky @ Sep 30 2010, 04:06 PM)
Read this article regarding 3x ETF decays

FAS/FAZ decay overtime
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Thanks.
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post Sep 30 2010, 08:37 PM

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Premarket Econ data:
Initial Jobless Claims week ending Sept 25th: 453k down 16k (better than expected)
Q2 GDP revision 1.7 vs 1.6 (better than expected)
So, we got "less bad" news. doh.gif

Oil moving up.. $78, same goes for UCO and ERX. thumbup.gif

Closing update
Dow 10788.05 -47.23 -0.44%
Nasdaq 2368.62 -7.94 -0.33%
S&P500 1141.20 -3.53 -0.31%

Market opens high, tagged new highs and sold off for profit taking..
Awesome volatility! Took chance to pocket profits for my remaining TZA.

HPQ finally announced their CEO after trading day. .some dude from SAP.
Don't know him and don't care. Sold HPQ for profits already. laugh.gif

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post Oct 2 2010, 12:38 AM

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Scalped C, 2000 x 3.96, sold just now at 4.00$, $70.

US Treasury selling off C starting today.
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post Oct 2 2010, 04:34 AM

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Closing update:
Dow 10829.68 +41.63 +0.39%
Nasdaq 2370.75 +2.13 +0.09%
S&P500 1146.24 +5.04 +0.44%

Oil and material rallied strong today but tech stocks got burnt.. Overall still green.

Decided to sell off 1/2 off my TCK holdings here at 42.50
Been holding this for long time, time to take profits. biggrin.gif

Still got a huge holding of C, not letting go yet. I'm looking for 4.30 or higher.
Maybe next week if Treasury can complete its sale.. laugh.gif





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post Oct 2 2010, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Oct 2 2010, 04:34 AM)

Still got a huge holding of C, not letting go yet. I'm looking for 4.30 or higher.
Maybe next week if Treasury can complete its sale..  laugh.gif
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not quite, u see, they still have about 60% to go. Not even half sold. Argh... the pain & agony waiting for her to cross 4.30 and reach back $5 before falling back to 3.80's.

Like u never see such scenario before whistling.gif

Last time they denied and now? -->

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Single U.S. trade helped spark May's flash crash

Published October 01, 2010

By Jonathan Spicer and Rachelle Younglai

NEW YORK/WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A computer-driven sale worth $4.1 billion by a single trader helped trigger the May flash crash, setting off liquidity shocks that ricocheted between U.S. futures and stock markets, regulators concluded in a report.

The report by the Securities and Exchange Commission and the Commodity Futures Trading Commission did not name the trader. Reuters, citing internal documents prepared by exchange operator CME Group Inc, in May identified the trader as money manager Waddell & Reed Financial Inc.

The long-awaited report focused on the relationship between two hugely popular securities -- E-Mini Standard & Poor's 500 futures and S&P 500 "SPDR" exchange-traded funds -- and detailed how high-frequency algorithmic trading can sap liquidity and rock the marketplace.

"The interaction between automated execution programs and algorithmic trading strategies can quickly erode liquidity and result in disorderly markets," the report said.

The "flash crash" sent the Dow Jones industrial average plunging some 700 points in minutes on May 6, exposing flaws in the electronic marketplace dominated by high-speed trading. The Dow was down nearly 1,000 points at its lowest point on that day.

Although the report did not make any recommendations, it lays the foundation for a special commission to propose new rules to avoid a repetition. At least one lawmaker threatened
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post Oct 2 2010, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(ingky @ Sep 30 2010, 04:06 PM)
Read this article regarding 3x ETF decays

FAS/FAZ decay overtime
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How about URE? Same apply to this counter?
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post Oct 5 2010, 01:52 AM

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QUOTE(mynewuser @ Oct 2 2010, 10:09 PM)
How about URE? Same apply to this counter?
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Yes, all leverage instruments (2x or 3x ETF) have decay factor. nod.gif

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post Oct 5 2010, 03:24 AM

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Traders taking a break, selling off all big names shares prior to the earning news.

Get ready for a big jump (up or down) this coming 2 weeks.
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post Oct 5 2010, 04:36 AM

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Oct 5 2010, 03:24 AM)
Traders taking a break, selling off all big names shares prior to the earning news.

Get ready for a big jump (up or down) this coming 2 weeks.
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Closing update
Dow 10751.27 -78.41 -0.72%
Nasdaq 2344.52 -26.23 -1.11%
S&P500 1137.03 -9.21 -0.80%

I'm ready...for the big DIVE! laugh.gif

I want to see the market pulls back at least 10% before end of the year.


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Despite the gloomy day for DJIA, LVS managed to stay green all the way.

36.44 +1.25 (3.55%)


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post Oct 5 2010, 10:33 AM

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Man..i TT RM10k to Zecco via public bank and it end up failed to transfer due to account number not exist, and i lost RM430! what the hell! Anyone experience this before? sad.gif

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ingky
post Oct 5 2010, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(totox7 @ Oct 5 2010, 10:33 AM)
Man..i TT RM10k to Zecco via public bank and it end up failed to transfer due to account number not exist, and i lost RM430! what the hell! Anyone experience this before? sad.gif
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Did you email Zecco with a copy of your TT when you transferred the money? I usually email MBT a copy of my TT after I've transferred for their reference.

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Sold off all my positions on HNR yesterday at 10.50. Anticipating big drop in NYSE before November.
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post Oct 5 2010, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(ingky @ Oct 5 2010, 12:48 PM)
Did you email Zecco with a copy of your TT when you transferred the money? I usually email MBT a copy of my TT after I've transferred for their reference.

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I just filled up the TT form instead of online transfer, as i usually do. I think i will transfer $$ to CIMB and transfer through online. So is it necessary to sent a copy to Zecco?


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