Sure is mucho anti-Islam sentiments in here. The TS did not ask you how much you hate Islam, or about your terribly misinformed views about it (LOL ALL MUSLIMS ARE NARROW-MINDED, INFLEXIBLE TALIBANS LOLOL), nor did he ask you about how he should give the religion the finger after marrying the girl.

All he asked was about how to deal with his parents' funeral. Take your 'I HATE ISLAM DAMMIT ALL' rhetoric to Real World Discussion where 90% of the people there are like you. Heck, the mods there tolerate that bs too.

Now, TS, you might as well ask the experts and that means nobody from this forum. Contact JAIS, or as someone brilliantly pointed out, ask Ustaz Redhuan Tee about it. If anyone could answer doubts faced by a convert, the latter definitely could.

All the best ; your dilemma is understandable.

wtf is this doing in phd school? cupid corner ---> that way

If people look at it from a sociological prespective it would fit here but people are not.

*facepalm.gif*

After surfing all replies only found one proper question on the 5th page
this is more on CC topic swtz....

If you both do read from page to page, you should know that the issue TS currently facing are going to be very sensitive as the thread goes on.

@TS, decide already yet?

@TS - In Islam it is work this way:

1) Non-muslim male cannot marry with muslim female, unless he converted.
2) Muslim male can marry with non-muslim female, without the female convert to Islam.

For your name, As long as your name gave a good meaning, it is ok to not to change your name. It is not a sins but it is ADVISED to change it so that, people know that you have converted.

For your parents funeral, you may do whatever it is as long it is not against the Islamic Teaching.

It is doesnt matter if you go anywhere (when spore/us didnt implement syariah law), but your future wife is a good muslim(ah) practicer, she should understand and make you understand about this matter as this is what has written in Quran and agreed by the Muslim scholar.

@xonius: i do think at malaysia, they are better than the arabs.. if not.. how could PAS coop with DAP.. haha (another issue)

& for TS, do consult this matter with Dr Mohd Asri Zainul Abidin (Dr Maza). http://drmaza.com

He is currently one of the scholar who try to change the "conservative" way of the scholars in Malaysia

eh no la!
that rule applied to Ahli kitab only la..sekarang there is no Ahli Kitab anymore. if Muslim male can marry with non-muslim female(ahli kitab only) the female no need to convert 1st..because the husband will eventually guide her to cnvert anyways.

I think someone needs to update the latest Quran or something. May I ask, what's Ahli Kitab and why does it matter to marriage? Anyone who are experience in this field mind to elaborate more please?

There's no such thing as latest version of qur'an..It has always been the same one for 1,600++ years now.
You know that there are other few religions that worship Allah as well right? Like Christian, Judaism etc. so those are ahli Kitab. However, that rule only applies to practising ahli kitab. Like for e.g. they must follow the bible line by line.
I'm sure that you'll have more questions on this ahli Kitab thing. However, I will not explain further on this in this thread as this is a sensitive issue. PM sure cannn...

yes...i think u need to explain to bornd too..i think he/she is muslim but dont know about it..when u dont know, dont talk about it pls...people like him/her made people non-muslim think the worst from us muslim. thanks anyway.

Hey bro, don't be judgemental yeah. He/She is still a human, so they are bound to make mistakes or there are things that they don't know. It is our job to correct them with the most respectful manner.

from what i heard, in islam, even though u already convert, parents will always be parents, and u still have responsiblity toward your parents and it wont change.... if u ignore them, u still consider anak derhaka...

and in funeral, i heard u can go to other religion funeral to pay your respect... it is not wrong and it is encouraged to do so... just that like bornd said you may do whatever it is as long it is not against the Islamic Teaching...

Just wan to ask...if falling in love with a Malay girl than immigrate to other western country like US, still need to convert to Islam??

depends on the country you are migrating to - in terms of law.
but your marriage wont be recognised in malaysia.

haiya in the US or singapore or most developed nations if u embrace any religion there wont be any1 who's so free to give a hoot whether you dont eat any prohibited food or do any shit so long as it's not illegal.

This post has been edited by arsenwagon: Jun 15 2010, 10:57 AM

juz hope 1 day Malaysia will become like what u said...

It is not only about escape, get married & not convert. If you are not converting, what religions do your children going to follow and how u 2 going to live together with constant disagreement in religion?

First of all, forget about the ppl just condemn your choice & Islam without knowing anything about it. They have no right to do so becoz they are ignorant.

Also forget the ppl that call u traitor, that is for monkey that have brain size of pea to say that.

I have been living in US for years and have many good friends from middle east. I can tell u that Islam is a beautiful religion. If u can accept Christianity, Buddhism and other religions, then it is no way that u cant accept Islam.

On the non-Muslim women can married Muslim men without converting is only the women is "people of the book", basicly mean she is Christian or Jewish. But anyway, this law was not adopted in Malaysia. So even women has to covert to married a Muslim men in Malaysia.

For those quick to judge idiots out there, do your research before open your mouth. You just sounded so stupid, and if you don't know enough go back to study.

Also, don't condemn other discriminating u when yourself is the biggest racist & discriminating bigots

If both of you love each other & worry about the conversion, why can't just keep your current status as single & spend the rest of your lifetime together?

Migrate. Bring your parents overseas and transfer all your assets there. Once there, you can have a civil marriage where religion is not a factor, or if you want a religious union, she can convert to your religion.

last time got Chinese men and Indian girl =moderator quickly close the tread

then Indian guy and chinese girl = moderator with close mind quickly close the topic

Malay guy and chinese girl = moderator close tread

but now = moderator let loose the topic

i got a feeling moderator are bias toward other race but not chinese i think its only me thinking like this in the past few day

Baru dalam lyn.net dah tunjuk the real berat sebelah belum lagi govern Malaysia :very scary thing will happen: what will happen to other race if keep priority chinese only