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 Astro B.yond V5.0, NEW WORLD OF ENTERTAINMENT

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post Jul 5 2010, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(Great_Cookie @ Jul 5 2010, 10:29 AM)
Hi there writesimply!

Long story put short; my current setup uses a 1-way LNB (similar to b.yond without PVR) running a SINGLE cable using a splitter just before the tuner 1/2 input at box. I know this is a non-standard setup (really didn't want to run a 2nd cable down since my place uses totally concealed wiring and I didn't want to knock holes in walls again).

Have the highlighted issues as reported before (ie; tuning from HD to SD channels, pvr will report loss of signal/rain msg) but REALLY curious to know why I seem to be able to receive some HD channels but not all. Could it be a signal strength issue? or the fact that my current setup is restrictive (but why can I receive some, not all)?

Hoping that the stacker de-stacker unit will solve all my issues.

Also puzzling my installers is why I had no signal at all using Entry point 18; they said should usually have some signal, but the decoder reported absoutely nothing ('Unlocked' at '0'). Currently using 17 - it is a dish alignment issue (unlikely to my thinking since everything else comes in ok).

Any suggestions if I were to use the manual ('user defined' installation settings what I should go for? Would it make a difference in maybe being able to receive the HD channels I currently can't view but subscribe to? (HBO HD/Nat Geo HD/History HD).

Thanks again to all the sifus out there!
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post Jul 5 2010, 12:02 PM

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Do i have to change the transponder signal to get some channel that affected by "sudden loss signal"?

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post Jul 5 2010, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(smileguy @ Jul 5 2010, 11:21 AM)
Sorry cannot get u, u hv a PVR or just Beyond
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I have the PVR installed... BUT current setup uses the SINGLE LNB used for b.yond (no pvr) running a SINGLE cable down using a splitter just before the decoder to give it its Tuner 1 & 2 inputs.

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post Jul 5 2010, 02:04 PM

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Which hd channel is worth so far?

For me is axn hd and espn hd....
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post Jul 5 2010, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(neb @ Jul 4 2010, 08:02 PM)

for byond maximum signal strength seems to be 255, so if maximum signal strength for PVR is 150 then 141 should be OK, otherwise re-align dish for max signal strength
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My installer said cannot get max signal no matter how you adjust the dish. Is this true ?

What is your PVR strength ?

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post Jul 5 2010, 02:21 PM

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@Great_Cookie
Seem like you cannot receive signal from transponder #18. It might be the explanation why you can't receive some HD channel.
You should run 2 cables from LNB to your decoder if Stacker-DeStacker not available.
Someone mention that you can't get signal at all for PVR if you disconnect 1 of the cable to LNB, sound weird but don't know why.
Wonder why installer let it installed that way.
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post Jul 5 2010, 02:42 PM

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#18 no longer give the best result...now using 'user defined 1'.....any other way to gain more signal?
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QUOTE(apexg2 @ Jul 5 2010, 02:42 PM)
#18 no longer give the best result...now using 'user defined 1'.....any other way to gain more signal?
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I use #8 and getting 225 than below 220 using that.
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post Jul 5 2010, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(xiaokia @ Jul 5 2010, 02:04 PM)
Which hd channel is worth so far?

For me is axn hd and espn hd....
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espn hd, assp hd, axn hd, nat geo hd
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my wife, of course hbo hd and axn hd
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post Jul 5 2010, 03:20 PM

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Hi eMKs,

Obviously I'd like to try the Stacker-Destacker... Really want to see if it can solve the problem. But curious is the fact that I can receive SOME HD channels but not others. As mentioned previously by someone, configuring entry points don't really affect the box's ability to pick up signal (which is why I was wondering whether I should set a manually 'user' defined entry.

Noticed that it almost seems that PVR uses alternate inputs for reception of channel (could just be fluke). When i tried with the 2-way LNB, every alternate channel (if i removed one cable input) would show 'no reception' message as if to say that Tuner one input would do channels 1,3,5 and tuner 2 do 2,4,6. Could be totally coincidental though.

As mentioned before, after 3 hrs of experimenting with the install (and at my request), my final setup was a single LNB (1 lineout only) with a splitter before the PVR input. My installer had no knowledge of the stacker-destacker; and I was sure that i didn't want to run another cable from my roof down two storeys just to drill into my external wall. Seems like a pretty big consideration if all houses wanting a PVR must have TWO Cable lines run to the same location. I've yet to see any new housing developments who'd even consider this. But again, I guess it was to keep the manufacturing costs of the box down and make consumers pay IF they wanted to.





QUOTE(eMKs @ Jul 5 2010, 02:21 PM)
@Great_Cookie
Seem like you cannot receive signal from transponder #18. It might be the explanation why you can't receive some HD channel.
You should run 2 cables from LNB to your decoder if Stacker-DeStacker not available.
Someone mention that you can't get signal at all for PVR if you disconnect 1 of the cable to LNB, sound weird but don't know why.
Wonder why installer let it installed that way.
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QUOTE(Qash-M @ Jul 5 2010, 02:53 PM)
I use #8 and getting 225 than below 220 using that.
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For the PVR or normal B.Yond?

The installer set up custom/user entry point for me.
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Jul 5 2010, 03:21 PM)
For the PVR or normal B.Yond?

The installer set up custom/user entry point for me.
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QUOTE(Great_Cookie @ Jul 5 2010, 03:20 PM)
after 3 hrs of experimenting with the install (and at my request), my final setup was a single LNB (1 lineout only) with a splitter before the PVR input. My installer had no knowledge of the stacker-destacker; and I was sure that i didn't want to run another cable from my roof down two storeys just to drill into my external wall.
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Even when you install Stacker De-Stacker, you still need LNB with 2 output. What Stacker De-Stacker doing is like combined your 2 signal into 1 cable & split it back at the other end. Thus, you might need higher grade cable to support it.
I wonder what is your plan now to overcome this?
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post Jul 5 2010, 04:14 PM

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Two words eMKs...

Hope and Pray... notworthy.gif

Anyhow, We'll test it out when the installer comes back again... Just called Astro again with my Report number; guess what, they assigned it back to the ORIGINAL installer who still has (just called him again) no knowledge about the stacker de-stacker doh.gif Even after the report said specifically to assign to technician who knew about them.

Such is life...

QUOTE(eMKs @ Jul 5 2010, 04:05 PM)
Even when you install Stacker De-Stacker, you still need LNB with 2 output. What Stacker De-Stacker doing is like combined your 2 signal into 1 cable & split it back at the other end. Thus, you might need higher grade cable to support it.
I wonder what is your plan now to overcome this?
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post Jul 5 2010, 04:41 PM

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so...sure the problem will not solve in short time rite..
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post Jul 5 2010, 05:34 PM

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Why you still proceed with PVR installation when you knew that Stacker De-Stacker still not available? I guess it will still not solve unless Stacker De-Stacker is available or you need to lay another cable.
If you don't want to drill your wall, you can use adhesive cable fastener or something like that. Not a tidy installation though, but you have no option. It's your call.

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post Jul 5 2010, 05:45 PM

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for your case to solve the problem fast fast, why don't you downgrade to byond box and add your own USB hard disk, do you really need 2 tuners?

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I just found out how to record the whole series. When the show is being recorded, go to planner and hit record again.

Then it will show up in the 'series' tab.
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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Jul 5 2010, 06:37 PM)
I just found out how to record the whole series. When the show is being recorded, go to planner and hit record again.

Then it will show up in the  'series' tab.
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But still do not solve repeat recording for same episod.
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post Jul 5 2010, 09:40 PM

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Hey guys, sorry for asking such a basic question but I've searched everywhere and can't find an answer...

I managed to get a free byond replacement for my Astro Max and the technician said that the byond requires double aerial cable or something and he gave me the option of drilling for the secondary cable or buying a signal compressor for RM300. The cabling for my astro was done 13 years ago and is really really long so I'll have to go for the converter option and I just want to know whether is he trying to screw me over because RM300 sounds suspiciously overpriced... Is there anywhere I can get that device and how much will it cause near Subang? Many many thanks in advance!! Keep up the awesome work guys!1

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