at least i know pennzoil platinum certified
5w-30
API SM/CF.
ILSAC GF-4.
ACEA A3/B3-04.
ACEA A3/B4-04.
ACEA C3-04.
ACEA C3-07.
MB p229.31.
VW 502 00/505 00.
BMW Longlife-04.

5w-40
API SM/CF.
ACEA A3/ B3-04.
ACEA A3/ B4-04.
ACEA C3-04.
ACEA C3-07.
BMW Longlife-04.
MB p229.31.
PORSCHE.
VW 502 00/505 00.

while liqui moly MoS2 Leichtlauf 10W-40 only certified for
API SL/CF
ACEA A3-04/B4-04

info on Pennzoil Malaysia
info on liqui moly

This post has been edited by ulet: Sep 13 2011, 10:18 AM

i wonder what make u think that syntium is below average....

I used syntium, penzoil, eneos, shell, mobil before....

all is also around 5/10 w40

the best is mobil, follow by syntium, shell, pennzoil and eneos. (all also semi oil only)

mobil keep my engine very smooth and quiet.

syntium keep my engine able to run in high rpm and less noise too.

shell smooth, less noise but cause my FC become high

pennzoil a bit noisy (maybe coz by the cleaning formula to remove engine carbon?), but good pickup

eneos is the worst for me ... run 3k km tat time is very nice. after 4k km, engine become very very loud sound and FC high.

thus, I truly doubt on your commend unless you try to compare it with others engine oil.

if you feel that syntium is not good. I would suggest you use M7, Q8, liqui moly, HKS, ELF, amsoil (with high grade). that might be able to satisfy you

already used a lot of brand for new BLM ? mobil, follow by syntium, shell, pennzoil and eneos.?

for me i used original mitsubishi oil filter with ENEOS 10w40 Racing Moly.. mitsu ori oil filter is VERY good filteration.. 5,000km my engine oil still yellow and still can lenjan up to 190km/h, engine still smooth, no teppet sound ( common problem for proton and mitsu engine).. for me syntium is the worse even most of the kaki racing guy that i know are not using petronas engine oil and shell.

FYI : there is no more ELF in the market, change to TOTAL.
for my experience and racing friends..

Torco, Q8, Amsoil, Penzoil, Mobil, Eneos , Sumo , M7, Torqnm, Redline, Royal Purple, Lucas, Liqui Moly, Castrol
Other than this like JTX, Wurth, Syntium, Shell, ELF is not on the same level..

This post has been edited by gagak_84: Sep 14 2011, 12:32 AM

anyone use this?? any review so far? im planning to change this on my atos...

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Added on September 14, 2011, 2:22 pmso to say the oil doesn't clean the engine by carrying dirt out of the components? I see i see

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Added on September 14, 2011, 2:25 pmI also heard that pennzoil cleans the engine well if used long term mate. Meeting and getting certified by API is one thing, exceeding their requirements and specification is another different story

This post has been edited by ThunderGod_Cid: Sep 14 2011, 02:25 PM

real life experience with pennzoil about 15 years ago. but with 2 stroke bikes..and their high end 2T oil (RM12/L at the time)

if any of you know wat servicing a 2 stroke bike is like, ull know that ull have to remove the head and clean out the carbon build up. usually with sandpaper and petrol.

the workshop i used to go to had a brand new 2stroke kapchai bike for their dispatch use...before the bike even started they drained out all oils...and replaced them with pennzoil 4T and 2T oils...after the 1000km run in, they removed the head..the carbon was so little.. they just dipped a cloth in some petrol, wrapped it around their finger and gave one...i repeat just ONE stroke on the carbon and thats it. the same thing went on up til the 3rd n 4th service.. after that i dunno already, never kept track.

but after i saw that, i switched to pennzoil. had the almost the same results. carbon build up was just alil more than the workshop's bike. previously i was using motul oils.. and the carbon build up with their 2T was quite bad... not just black carbon...but also white carbon.

the pennzoil 4T oso gave me a smoother engine.. ever since then ive been a beliver in pennzoils..

recommended the fully syn to a friend who used it on his MIVEC 1.8... he loved it.. said the engine was so smooth and rev happy. i also used it on my ex-B16A...same results.. would love to use it for my current B20B... just dunno where to buy in my area and how much

because your friend are using wrong oil at the 1st place, STI should use 75W90NS or shockproof series.

Not really, turn yellow and my engine is still running clean very smooth, black engine oil is caused by combustion soot or carbon. Most of it exit thru exhaust system, and when engine oil still like new, it can run more km, if turn black the performance of engine oil reduce significantly.

Some of the otai, said that the black substance from the oil is caused by cleaning agent from the engine oil, but thw performance will be reduce significantly. Good enginw oil :
- still yellow and performance still gret
- most soot from combustion is not absorb by engine oil but pass thru exhaust to maintain cleanliness of the engine.

Anyone try before Ptt ?

Thailand Product

The colour of the engine oil after usage is determined by the condition of the piston rings. Worn out piston rings will allow blow-by from the combustion chamber into the engine. This will dirty any engine oil, including the ones you are selling. Put your engine oil into an old car and you will see that effect.

There are 2 types of dark engine oil that comes out of the engine. A good condition engine will still produce dark coloured oil at the end of the service interval but that is only due to dirt suspended in the engine oil. The oil still feels like oil. However, if a bad engine oil is used it will not only come out black but it will come out like sludge. The oil feels like watery gum.

As long as there's no sludging and the oil consistency has not changed, the colour of the oil will not reduce the performance of the oil unless you have a really bad case of blow-by which will turn the engine oil black within the first 1000km. That would be an engine problem and not oil problem.

This post has been edited by sleepwalker: Sep 19 2011, 09:16 AM

i just used mobil 1 5W-50 fully syn for my inspira's 4b11. sounds so much better and not as harsh as it was on petronas syn800.

morning starts is where the mobil1 fully syn shines, very smooth and dont have to maintain at high rev during idle, unlike the syn800, loud and takes a long time to stabilise

it really makes the syn800 feels like crap. but again, the price is almost double, so it is hard to compare.

how about mazda 2?? wat model of engine oil and wat brand recommended??

any 5w-30 oil

thanks..

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Added on September 20, 2011, 9:27 pmcan i knw da price of dis engine oil?

This post has been edited by xaviereo: Sep 20 2011, 09:27 PM

any ideas on what is good for Proton BLM 1.3 Auto?..
current shell 40W ..feels draggy..

ahaha...ayam just serviced...onli use chepo oil/not feymes brand since ayam student...no drop performance at all...normal...

inb4 at workshop, feymes brand castrol/shell/petronas/mobil/etc on nice view rack while chepo oil on the top of
rack and not easily seen..

I just used Liqui Moly Synthoil High Tech 5 W-40 Fully-synthetic today dint have much to say because haven't test it all out yet. What i can say is my engine less noise then before. . . But it seems take longer time to start, before this just about 1sec, now around 2sec.. or maybe it just my feeling.. . .

BTW i got question, i got some ppl saying that Liqui Moly oil product for our country (M'sia) is just rebranding from other brand oil IS THAT TRUE? source just from normal chit-chat in FB~

CAR SNR3 - Campro CPS
OIL CHANGE at 5k interval..

BTW is it ok if i change oil at 15k since for fully-syns the interval change around 10km right? But how about other minor service on the 10km service?

This post has been edited by kambing69: Sep 21 2011, 02:30 AM

you can do the minor servicing/checkups on 5k km, oil change keep it at 10k km/3 months dont drag it to 15k km

What do mean dont drag it to 15km? my total now is 5km, so in next 5km its 10km already, services it here or just regular checkup but not oil change. next 5 km would be 15km then i should change oil... is that what you mean?