Well just made a new list for 2010.
Whatelse did i miss let me know O.O
*NEW* Worse Laptop Brand 2010!, Place your votes ppl!
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 May 14 2010, 07:50 PM, updated 16y ago
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May 14 2010, 07:58 PM
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prestigeo...compal...gigabyte...msi
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May 14 2010, 07:59 PM
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Thought there was a thread like this. Anyway, can't make up my mind coz so far I only own a Dell, Acer and that's it. Well, the Acer was problematic with broken hinges, dead battery and dead charger but since I heard they've improved, can't vote for any.
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May 14 2010, 08:02 PM
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yea tht thread was kinda old... most ppl voted Acer and i believe Acer had changed and should be given a chance for a new election ;P
So yea tht thread is misleading let it die  |
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May 14 2010, 08:12 PM
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Ok2.. lol.. Let me say something, I always bought Asus motherboard.. but I never trust Asus for laptop/netbook for reasons unknown..
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May 14 2010, 08:14 PM
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QUOTE(lowyard @ May 14 2010, 08:12 PM) Ok2.. lol.. Let me say something, I always bought Asus motherboard.. but I never trust Asus for laptop/netbook for reasons unknown.. on the contray i only buy Gigabyte mobo...   wanted to choose Apple... their cooling design really sucks this time round... but will see first... |
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May 14 2010, 08:19 PM
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what? sager and alienware also included?
i think must be more specific lor, there are good and bad model coming out from the same manufacturer. |
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May 14 2010, 08:23 PM
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Well then we just have to state which model was faulty and just vote for it anyway.. hehe..
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May 14 2010, 09:51 PM
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I voted for Sony VAIO, simply for the fact that they're trying to push artificial prices for their laptops.
Any decent minded person would realise that Sony's laptops are on average RM1000 more expensive than similar laptops of other brands. This creates an imbalance in the market [competitors are reluctant to sell at too low a price which might make their own product look inferior] which hurts us end users.  |
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May 14 2010, 09:52 PM
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why hp ? just because of lower-end "compaq" implicate it...gosh
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May 14 2010, 09:53 PM
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walau!!! no need to put sager inside lor, i dont think any1 will vote for it
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May 14 2010, 10:07 PM
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got 1 vote lol~~
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May 14 2010, 10:08 PM
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that must be a *tut (censored)
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May 14 2010, 10:12 PM
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QUOTE(Fantasia @ May 14 2010, 09:53 PM) walau!!! no need to put sager inside lor, i dont think any1 will vote for it Why no one will vote for Sager?Is it a good brand or something? |
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May 14 2010, 10:14 PM
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it's too good to even pick out some bad thing from it...
seriously, looking at my friend's Sager NP8690, really nothing to complain abt it... thou i always ji siao him that my laptop got 5 USB ports and his only got 4... juz to make myself feel better, perhaps...This post has been edited by astria: May 14 2010, 10:14 PM |
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May 14 2010, 10:14 PM
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I voted Apple because I don't want to pay 100% extra compare to a similar spec laptop even though the OS may be awesome.
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May 14 2010, 10:19 PM
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Hey, same vote like me.. haha.. Coz I can't afford it.. lol..
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May 14 2010, 10:35 PM
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QUOTE(astria @ May 14 2010, 10:14 PM) it's too good to even pick out some bad thing from it... Usually how much is the price?seriously, looking at my friend's Sager NP8690, really nothing to complain abt it... thou i always ji siao him that my laptop got 5 USB ports and his only got 4... juz to make myself feel better, perhaps...I also voted for apple,cos it is really expensive for normal users.. |
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May 14 2010, 10:37 PM
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>rm4k... if u want good spec ones...
finally voted Apple... for the same reason: stupid cooling design... |
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May 14 2010, 10:39 PM
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I voted for Apple, simply for the fact that they're trying to push artificial prices for their laptops. Any decent minded person would realize that Apple's laptops are on average RM3000 more expensive than similar laptops of other brands. This post has been edited by pedro: May 14 2010, 10:40 PM |
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 May 14 2010, 10:45 PM
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QUOTE(lowyard @ May 14 2010, 09:12 PM) Ok2.. lol.. Let me say something, I always bought Asus motherboard.. but I never trust Asus for laptop/netbook for reasons unknown.. Maybe of services.I vote for BenQ because i think is this market no one will buy, and somemore seldom have distribution will take. |
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May 14 2010, 10:47 PM
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well, my previous laptop was a BenQ JoyBook S41...
solid laptop, better quality and performance:price ratio than Acer of that time... too bad plagued with the GeForce 8M problem... This post has been edited by astria: May 14 2010, 10:47 PM |
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QUOTE(amduser @ May 14 2010, 08:19 PM) what? sager and alienware also included? i think must be more specific lor, there are good and bad model coming out from the same manufacturer. QUOTE(lowyard @ May 14 2010, 08:23 PM) Well then we just have to state which model was faulty and just vote for it anyway.. hehe.. The old Sager models had a few problems but I doubt now would have any since they've stopped production of those. But heck, the problems are so minor. XDQUOTE(Fantasia @ May 14 2010, 09:53 PM) walau!!! no need to put sager inside lor, i dont think any1 will vote for it +100000000000000QUOTE(bigbangformula @ May 14 2010, 10:12 PM) Why no one will vote for Sager?Is it a good brand or something? It's the best. For gaming wise and for other stuff. If you're into the looks, I doubt you'd want it. It looks plain and super bulky. My NP8690 weighs 3.2kg (laptop only) if I put in the charger, it weighs nearly 4kg in total. So yeah, it's the best but the only downside is the weight issue. Alienware who?QUOTE(astria @ May 14 2010, 10:14 PM) it's too good to even pick out some bad thing from it... Hahahahahaha.... USB ports can still use external doc. seriously, looking at my friend's Sager NP8690, really nothing to complain abt it... thou i always ji siao him that my laptop got 5 USB ports and his only got 4... juz to make myself feel better, perhaps... You seriously can't match the screen if he's using the FHD screen. Wayyyyy past beautiful.Edit: Just to stay on topic, I'd have to say the Dells are quite bad. My old Vostro 1510 didn't last long due to the stupid graphics problem. Got burnt earlier this year and I'm quite happy that it did because now I have a Sager. Who voted for the Sagers?! This post has been edited by SonicSpyro: May 14 2010, 10:50 PM |
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May 14 2010, 10:48 PM
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yep 1 vote goes for apple and a thumbs down...thumbs up on acer's new model.
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May 14 2010, 11:22 PM
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well, my votes still goes to acer. cant forget how bad the quality of their laptop now.
my top vote for best laptop goes to samsung, walawei, i never off for like a week my laptop, the cooling pretty great. and will try on asus sooon. |
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May 14 2010, 11:28 PM
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Acer 6935G 9600MGT DDR2 OCed 30% playin Bad Company 2 about 3 hours.. non aircond room temp 32C (Miri hot >.<)
Max Temps for GPU is 65C  (Pretty good cooling imo) Well cooling pretty much differs in different models/series of notebooks.. This post has been edited by Eugene91: May 14 2010, 11:29 PM |
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May 14 2010, 11:35 PM
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lenovo notebook always the same old design
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May 14 2010, 11:39 PM
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QUOTE(pedro @ May 14 2010, 10:39 PM) I voted for Apple, simply for the fact that they're trying to push artificial prices for their laptops. Phail'dAny decent minded person would realize that Apple's laptops are on average RM3000 more expensive than similar laptops of other brands. Hey Doppelgänger, get your own effin line. If you wanna copy pasta at least rehash the sentence  |
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May 14 2010, 11:52 PM
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QUOTE(kaeza @ May 14 2010, 11:35 PM) lenovo notebook always the same old design lol. sometime old skool design rox |
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May 15 2010, 12:30 AM
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QUOTE(bigbangformula @ May 14 2010, 10:12 PM) Why no one will vote for Sager?Is it a good brand or something? if you have time, look through every pages in sager thread, see how much complain you will get compare to other thread 3 vote for sager 1 vote for alienware and 0 vote for asus......WHAT THE!! |
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May 15 2010, 12:31 AM
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QUOTE(corallinkz @ May 14 2010, 11:52 PM) lol. sometime old skool design rox That's their identity i guess. Like BMW, always have that big huge 'nose hole' aka 'lubang hidung'..This post has been edited by lowyard: May 15 2010, 12:33 AM |
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May 15 2010, 12:44 AM
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Acer's currently number 1,followed by Apple..
But,don't judge the quality of the Acer laptops based on these votes,users may have voted for Acer just because their OLD models weren't good,but now their new models like Timeline and Aspire are pretty good already |
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May 15 2010, 04:00 AM
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vote to compaq cq50--- motherboard damage, gpu temp more than 100oC when playing games.. gpu 70-80oC without gaming.. battery can only use for one year.. shit laptop forever!!
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May 15 2010, 06:26 AM
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QUOTE(bigbangformula @ May 14 2010, 10:12 PM) Why no one will vote for Sager?Is it a good brand or something? sweat....free gift when you buy Sager is problem-free. should i elaborate more? @ TS : i don't think some premium line laptops deserved to be place on the poll. please consider before your poll result mislead people. |
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May 15 2010, 06:36 AM
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Ok, its Apple leading the pack..followed close by Acer and then HP
 ...i see 3 votes for Sager, dunno if the votes real or just want to make Sager looks bad ...Still no vote for Toshiba,Fujitsu & Packard Bell ... |
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May 15 2010, 06:52 AM
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QUOTE(miahahaha @ May 15 2010, 06:36 AM) Ok, its Apple leading the pack..followed close by Acer and then HP lulz. pity sager loooo... ...i see 3 votes for Sager, dunno if the votes real or just want to make Sager looks bad ...Still no vote for Toshiba,Fujitsu & Packard Bell ...Apple got my vote. thanks to super stupid ventilation of them |
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May 15 2010, 09:09 AM
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LOL this is a bad thread. Reason being : Fanboys
 I voted for Acer anyway due to experience. Everything was bad lol. |
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May 15 2010, 09:25 AM
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It's depend on ur luck actually!
Pray alot lol.... |
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May 15 2010, 09:31 AM
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I voted for Compaq (HP).
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May 15 2010, 09:33 AM
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seems like acer is taking the beating again..but apple is sharing the "pain" too..
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May 15 2010, 09:43 AM
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QUOTE(tek @ May 15 2010, 09:09 AM) LOL this is a bad thread. Reason being : Fanboys Isn't this statement itself already fanboy enuf? I voted for Acer anyway due to experience. Everything was bad lol. Bad in the past does not mean bad now... |
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May 15 2010, 10:11 AM
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I try not to vote Acer, but sadly my 3 month old Acer is already giving me a headache. Like u guys owez said, if the hardware got problem its not manufacturer's fault, it's all from OEM supplier. But who's fault is it if my laptop gets to hot while other users never had any problem with heat?
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May 15 2010, 10:29 AM
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QUOTE(astria @ May 15 2010, 09:43 AM) Isn't this statement itself already fanboy enuf? Fanboyism is protecting a certain brand to its core . . not the other way around isn't it? Bad in the past does not mean bad now... Not sure about you, but if I were to have a bad experience with a certain brand . . there will be almost no chance of me going back to that brand. I however . . won't SHOUT on top of my lungs that the brand I am using is the BEST or KING of KINGS and stuff like that  |
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May 15 2010, 10:43 AM
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QUOTE(tek @ May 15 2010, 10:29 AM) Fanboyism is protecting a certain brand to its core . . not the other way around isn't it? honestly, i ve used Acer before, know how bad they were back then, and how much better they are now...Not sure about you, but if I were to have a bad experience with a certain brand . . there will be almost no chance of me going back to that brand. I however . . won't SHOUT on top of my lungs that the brand I am using is the BEST or KING of KINGS and stuff like that personally own a Acer netbook, folding almost 24/7 with it... no signs of overheat at all... which sort of really impressed me... |
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May 15 2010, 10:43 AM
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QUOTE(username @ May 15 2010, 09:31 AM) I voted for Compaq (HP). i also voted for HP (Compaq) |
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May 15 2010, 10:44 AM
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I dont see any best brands for me myself so far.. as long as it satisfy my money and needs
ill always go cheap haha |
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May 15 2010, 10:47 AM
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QUOTE(MIVECburuk @ May 15 2010, 10:11 AM) I try not to vote Acer, but sadly my 3 month old Acer is already giving me a headache. Like u guys owez said, if the hardware got problem its not manufacturer's fault, it's all from OEM supplier. But who's fault is it if my laptop gets to hot while other users never had any problem with heat? maybe the laptop design? e.g. temp management is not good enuff? |
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May 15 2010, 10:50 AM
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Acer votes is leading...
OMG just about considering to get Acer Timeline but after read this thread, need to reconsider again... |
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May 15 2010, 10:56 AM
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QUOTE(towtow @ May 15 2010, 10:50 AM) Acer votes is leading... this thread cant be trust, not reliable at all OMG just about considering to get Acer Timeline but after read this thread, need to reconsider again... |
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May 15 2010, 10:58 AM
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So far been using Acer for a year, its ok compare to HP
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May 15 2010, 11:04 AM
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QUOTE(Mie131085 @ May 15 2010, 10:47 AM) maybe the laptop design? e.g. temp management is not good enuff? or probably i'm just unlucky  |
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May 15 2010, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE(ineser @ May 15 2010, 10:58 AM) So far been using Acer for a year, its ok compare to HP how come?..hp something wrong with it?. |
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May 15 2010, 11:08 AM
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QUOTE(fastreader @ May 15 2010, 11:05 AM) how come?..hp something wrong with it?. hp dont have much problem, but compaq is all got problem. |
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May 15 2010, 11:42 AM
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somehow i found out tht tis thread kinda useless ( no offense ) ...IMO, Brand does not come 1st... N if really wanna vote i think it should based on product line instead of brand... Nw Acer leading...but u dare tell me Timeline sucks? misleading most of those newbie man...furthermore...sager got voted...I lol-ed...
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May 15 2010, 11:56 AM
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Who say TimelineX sucks!?
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May 15 2010, 01:27 PM
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lol..voted apple!
dont understand why people would buy something that is way overpriced.. |
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May 15 2010, 01:51 PM
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for me...
i used COMPAQ since 2006..my 1st year of diploma.. until now...2010... then the screen start to make trouble..damn... during the COMPAQ era...the model...vt5232 cosing a trouble like motherboard..2 times i change it..under warnty of course.. after the warnty habis, i cant service it anymore.. and change my lptop... today, i use DELL....its been a month i think. performce?GOOD. credit to HP: giving a very good service to my lptop... |
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May 15 2010, 02:01 PM
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This survey wouldn't be accurate as not all users had tried every single brand. Some only base on their first or second time bad experience on a particular brand only. Maybe they weren't in luck to get such bad device resulting them to hate that particular brand.
So all these votes cannot be justify. I null the vote anyway |
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May 15 2010, 02:08 PM
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QUOTE(sayoshi @ May 15 2010, 01:27 PM) lol..voted apple! People buy the MacOS dont understand why people would buy something that is way overpriced.. |
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May 15 2010, 02:22 PM
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This is only a fun poll.
So far only 80 ppl voted! Are they, the definitive voice for worse laptop brand? |
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May 15 2010, 04:03 PM
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For those who vote "Acer"as the worst brand, pls try to use timelineX or try Aspire 5741G  |
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May 15 2010, 04:19 PM
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QUOTE(amduser @ May 15 2010, 11:08 AM) hp dont have much problem, but compaq is all got problem. what's wrong with compaq?..did heard that the amd got some heating problem last time...y not we use this thread to share and talk about some of the old problems that different brands got?... |
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May 15 2010, 04:33 PM
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haiz....once bitten, twice shy truth.....
even the acer nowadays quality is good ,but still alot of ppl who buy acer be4 had the bad experience . sorry i dun like acer also(the design only,somtitmes their spec quite temptation).one of my course mate using new acer seem no problem til 2day worse laptop compaq !!! all my coursemate who buy compaq wll hav problem (diff spec ,diff batch),dun tell me they r not lucky.tats y compaq can sell at the lower price,u pay wat u get . This post has been edited by cjs7875: May 15 2010, 04:35 PM |
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May 15 2010, 05:03 PM
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QUOTE(cjs7875 @ May 15 2010, 04:33 PM) haiz....once bitten, twice shy truth..... even the acer nowadays quality is good ,but still alot of ppl who buy acer be4 had the bad experience . sorry i dun like acer also(the design only,somtitmes their spec quite temptation).one of my course mate using new acer seem no problem til 2day  hmm...5741G and timelineX so stylish |
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May 15 2010, 05:32 PM
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QUOTE(towtow @ May 15 2010, 10:50 AM) Acer votes is leading... Acer,Apple and HP are leading OMG just about considering to get Acer Timeline but after read this thread, need to reconsider again... I voted for Apple,because they are way too expensive even though their specs are almost the same with the RM2K+ laptops,just for the brand and OS it's a few thousand extra.. Btw,get what you want,it's your opinion,dun judge based on this thread..Timeline is really good now..cool design too |
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May 15 2010, 05:43 PM
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who voted for Dell (and Alienware too??) does not noticed that Dell can provide A1+ service support to their doorstep.
pity them. lulz. |
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May 15 2010, 06:24 PM
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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ May 15 2010, 05:43 PM) who voted for Dell (and Alienware too??) does not noticed that Dell can provide A1+ service support to their doorstep. +1...though some model suffers from problem (well, not all and i dun recall one except the ones that comes with 8M NV), their service is pity them. lulz. |
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May 15 2010, 06:27 PM
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Some people might not care about service i guess
 Which is quite important if something bad really happens  This post has been edited by Eugene91: May 15 2010, 06:27 PM |
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May 15 2010, 06:32 PM
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QUOTE(fastreader @ May 15 2010, 04:19 PM) what's wrong with compaq?..did heard that the amd got some heating problem last time... not only overheat, their motherboard is like confirm faulty, some even burnt before warranty end y not we use this thread to share and talk about some of the old problems that different brands got?... |
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May 15 2010, 11:40 PM
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lol , as i said lowe-end product "compaq" implicate Hp pretty much.,..
what can u aspect since the price so cheap till its provide cut -cost chassis and plus lousy design (cooling system) |
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May 15 2010, 11:43 PM
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Well, everyone are voting from their experience
 ...some have bad experience with Acer/HP/Dell etc etc..we cannot blame them ...And some read from review, and even better from a real test drive with the product itself  ...well, for me still Apple got the vote because of their lack of cooling design with the latest MBP and their price is just |
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May 16 2010, 12:42 AM
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NEC mine sudah bakar -,-
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May 16 2010, 12:50 AM
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QUOTE(edwardng @ May 15 2010, 05:03 PM) hmm...5741G and timelineX so stylishThe fake brushed aluminium plastic palmrest doesn't help its cause very much. But heck, as long as it gets the job done, I'm very happy with my 5741G |
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May 16 2010, 12:59 PM
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QUOTE(amduser @ May 15 2010, 06:32 PM) not only overheat, their motherboard is like confirm faulty, some even burnt before warranty end i really want to say that few times before! its just scared to be label as Compaq-hater or something this is true and really bad yo. especially when this laptop is cheap, thus becoming like major brand used by my friend which are low income. its sad to break a bad news to them. we have to use lappy for our study summore.. |
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May 16 2010, 01:40 PM
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voted for HP. but actually, not for HP, but for their mid low series of Compaq brand. HP, presario, Envy have the most eyecandy, so It wont get my vote.
In my student life, the most problematic laptop I've seen is Acer brand, followed by Compaq. But surely because students being student dont have that much money to get Fujitsu, Apple, or even toshiba (which get my votes of best laptop ever!) The reason why I get myself A Dell is, of course, for the most people agree, the warranty. Dell have the best warranty policy in malaysia. |
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May 16 2010, 01:46 PM
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Its not the warranty...even Acer got better deal in warranty, yet to say Asus default 2 years warranty...its their After-sales service to be precise
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May 16 2010, 02:40 PM
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i vote for hp, though i never use b4
but 4 of my fren that use hp laptop & all has problem & ask me help them 1 compaq laptop's screen & dvd drive rosak 1 compaq laptop's suddenly cannot boot up & need to reformat 1 hp dv3 dvd drive rosak 1 hp laptop screen rosak |
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May 16 2010, 03:11 PM
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QUOTE(sayoshi @ May 15 2010, 01:27 PM) lol..voted apple! The same reason why ppl buy Armani. dont understand why people would buy something that is way overpriced..Btw, it's not surprising HP is getting alot of votes. Lately their home entertainment lines seems to have alot of problem. They didn't tackle the 8000--series gt card problem very well if I recall correctly too. QUOTE(miahahaha @ May 16 2010, 01:46 PM) Its not the warranty...even Acer got better deal in warranty, yet to say Asus default 2 years warranty...its their After-sales service to be precise Yup, 2 years warranty from Highpoint service center. The same guys handling Acer's warranty.This post has been edited by mumeichan: May 16 2010, 03:12 PM |
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May 16 2010, 04:50 PM
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QUOTE(sayoshi @ May 15 2010, 01:27 PM) lol..voted apple! coz it's cheap. a simple Macbook price is barely enough to last us a meal. and by the way the poll is going, i'm surprise a few beggars vote for apple since they never own one. dont understand why people would buy something that is way overpriced.. |
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May 16 2010, 05:25 PM
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o0 So many people vote for Acer.
I had no idea about which brand is bad or good. I'm the user of Acer 5741g and this my 1st own computer I love Sony Vaio but it will kinda pretty much expensive to get that brand laptop with the same spec as Acer 5741g |
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May 16 2010, 05:33 PM
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Seems like Toshiba is the only laptop for now without any problem
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May 16 2010, 05:34 PM
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lol i knew acer would be leading the poll even before clicking thread
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May 16 2010, 05:35 PM
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Well, Acer improved but still maybe got some minor problem with their latest unit (as i recall the battery faulty of some Acer models)...but, as i said earlier..people vote because they have experienced it themselves..so, in a way, still Acer would lead the pack
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May 16 2010, 05:36 PM
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Wonder which Packard Bell's model people use here
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May 16 2010, 05:38 PM
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I buy Acer 5741g because it's very cheap compare to Hp pavilion,Toshiba,except compaq. If sony with the spec Intel i-5 above,more expensive=.=
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May 16 2010, 05:40 PM
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I got one Packard Bell in my store room...dunno if still alive or not but never gave me any problem before
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May 16 2010, 05:43 PM
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yea. i think it depends on what kinda person u r. worse if u dunno anything bout laptop, but make a big fuss over trivial thing
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May 16 2010, 05:55 PM
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I don't think this thread is good enough to continue.
BRANDS are just brands. |
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May 16 2010, 07:11 PM
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QUOTE(sn0wle0pard @ May 16 2010, 04:50 PM) coz it's cheap. a simple Macbook price is barely enough to last us a meal. and by the way the poll is going, i'm surprise a few beggars vote for apple since they never own one. fanboy spotted!! |
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May 16 2010, 07:24 PM
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dont jump into conclusion.. It would be MacOSX vs Windows 7 later on lol..
Well, I've met people who wanted to buy a Macbook and only use WIndows 7 on it .. And this is then considered "overpriced" LoL.. Whats the point of using Win 7 on Macbooks? When you can buy better hardware for Windows 7.. |
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May 16 2010, 07:40 PM
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Eugene91: Totally agree.
Wonder who voted for Alienware, I admit they have weakness but is it really the WORST? Looks like a vote war between Sager and AW users... |
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May 16 2010, 07:41 PM
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Depends on luck >.<
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May 17 2010, 12:28 PM
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QUOTE(Eugene91 @ May 16 2010, 07:41 PM) Depends on luck >.< yea. for example - Toshiba with 0 vote (i bet because there is no Toshiba user here ). 0 vote doesn't mean you will not face any problem with that brand. |
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May 17 2010, 02:19 PM
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i'm using Toshiba M500-S433 for half a year doesn't have any hardware problem so yea its good
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May 17 2010, 02:36 PM
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Lol but i heard somewhere,someone said don't buy laptops from a manufacturer that produces other electrical equipments too like vaccum cleaner etc.
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May 17 2010, 02:42 PM
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QUOTE(bigbangformula @ May 17 2010, 02:36 PM) Lol but i heard somewhere,someone said don't buy laptops from a manufacturer that produces other electrical equipments too like vaccum cleaner etc. lol.. do you mean toshiba..? sony..? |
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May 17 2010, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE(kae7 @ May 17 2010, 02:42 PM) lol.. do you mean toshiba..? sony..? Maybe Toshiba yeaI think I read in this forum itself,or Star Intech |
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May 17 2010, 02:56 PM
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Even if they do make all this other electrical stuff, why do other brand that focus mainly on computer stuff have more issue than
the brands that produce other electrical stuff? sorry to say but your theory given is ridiculous somehow. It doesn't relate at all. |
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May 17 2010, 04:10 PM
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Seems Acer has the most votes...
Anyway, is Acer better than Dell? This post has been edited by xlLax: May 17 2010, 04:10 PM |
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May 17 2010, 04:43 PM
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QUOTE(xlLax @ May 17 2010, 04:10 PM) Seems Acer has the most votes... not really.Anyway, is Acer better than Dell? dell has superior support service |
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May 17 2010, 06:35 PM
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PC stuff is very hard to compare~.~
I think it will just depends on your own luck with using your laptop. Maybe brand can be compare through the customer service,their service provide how is it. Price,time,etc. |
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May 17 2010, 06:41 PM
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acer no,1 again XD
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May 17 2010, 07:09 PM
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Not a suprise.. Look at Q4, 2009 sales:
1. HP 2.Acer 3.Dell |
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May 17 2010, 07:48 PM
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QUOTE(noobfc @ May 17 2010, 06:41 PM) acer no,1 again XD no surprise there. same reason as why proton/perodua end up as best sellling cars in Msia. CHEAP !!! and low quality |
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May 17 2010, 07:49 PM
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poor acer...haha...but still...it's one of the top ranking seller there...
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May 17 2010, 08:03 PM
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QUOTE(sn0wle0pard @ May 17 2010, 07:48 PM) no surprise there. same reason as why proton/perodua end up as best sellling cars in Msia. CHEAP !!! and low quality lol low quality ==" |
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May 17 2010, 08:05 PM
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y r they so llousy?...arrogant till ignore user's conmment kah?>.
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May 17 2010, 08:10 PM
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price:performance ratio that acer offer attract more people to buy it.
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May 17 2010, 08:10 PM
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nah... most ppl vote base on past experience...
it's a fact that Acer was pretty bad a few years back, in particular 2004 and 2005... |
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May 17 2010, 10:20 PM
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acer is fine based on my usage 2007-8. The earlier models were crappy.
Those who voted for VAIO and Apple need to get a life. Those are HIGH-END laptops, hence the price. I have used HP, Acer and Toshiba previously, and I found my new Apple a world of difference compared to my previous laptop. Nothing beat Macbooks in terms of design and quality.. You can't degrade a laptop just because it's high-end. If you guys don't care about the brand, just price vs. hardware specs, then just go custom make your laptop- let it have no-brand... I'm sure it'll be several hundred cheaper than several brands. Macbooks rock btw(I'm using Win 7 on it)..... This post has been edited by atukbaru: May 17 2010, 10:21 PM |
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May 17 2010, 10:24 PM
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hands up for voting Apple, but not becuz i am jealous or wat...
read the reviews and u'll see how they really fail with the cooling solution of the latest MBP... |
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May 17 2010, 10:27 PM
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QUOTE(astria @ May 17 2010, 10:24 PM) hands up for voting Apple, but not becuz i am jealous or wat... and they failed on the aluminiom design. very easy to get dentread the reviews and u'll see how they really fail with the cooling solution of the latest MBP... |
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May 17 2010, 10:42 PM
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QUOTE(corallinkz @ May 17 2010, 10:27 PM) and they failed on the aluminiom design. very easy to get dent if you can dent the aluminium, then i guess if you use other brands which is plastic, you're definitely gonna smash the laptop.As for cooling on MBP... high performance laptops tend to always be a little on the hot side. You can cool it down a lot more if you lower down the power settings(performance).. I've used AMD on Compaq and Acer.... 80-100C is no big deal... But Macbooks are the only laptops which can give you 9-10hour battery.. And the design is way better.. no more cd-try, and it's also thinner and lighter than equivalent laptops. |
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May 17 2010, 10:48 PM
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QUOTE(atukbaru @ May 17 2010, 10:42 PM) if you can dent the aluminium, then i guess if you use other brands which is plastic, you're definitely gonna smash the laptop. yeah, but not 100C during load on MBP 17" when the CPU is merely a 35W TDP dual core... even if the T-max is 105C...As for cooling on MBP... high performance laptops tend to always be a little on the hot side. You can cool it down a lot more if you lower down the power settings(performance).. I've used AMD on Compaq and Acer.... 80-100C is no big deal... But Macbooks are the only laptops which can give you 9-10hour battery.. And the design is way better.. no more cd-try, and it's also thinner and lighter than equivalent laptops. and no, battery life is not sth to boast abt... u can get long battery life easily by restricting the CPU usage to no more than 5%, disable all the blink blink, etc... no CD tray??? i actually prefer CD tray... slot in drives are more prone to problems... yeah, it looks cool, but u can't dig out the disc if it doesn't eject it for watever reason... many Dell Studio 15 owners complained abt it... This post has been edited by astria: May 17 2010, 10:48 PM |
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May 17 2010, 10:50 PM
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Funny, My currecnt Acer 5942G (corei7, blu ray) build quality is better than those of lenovo and dell.
You have to admit Acer's build quality is improving. |
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May 17 2010, 10:58 PM
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QUOTE(fastreader @ May 17 2010, 08:05 PM) y r they so llousy?...arrogant till ignore user's conmment kah?>. At least, acer is improving(2x/4x) especially 09/10' models..... QUOTE(G_KeN @ May 17 2010, 10:50 PM) Funny, My currecnt Acer 5942G (corei7, blu ray) build quality is better than those of lenovo and dell. You have to admit Acer's build quality is improving. Yup..u r right |
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May 17 2010, 11:06 PM
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I'm not a fan of Apple, but look at this:
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May 18 2010, 12:11 AM
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It looks like a Macbook fan club meeting.. I don't think everyone would take their lappy out in a lecture setting like that.. and all macbook looks more like staged..
ps- Mac just has 3% of the OS share.. the pic above is definitely abnormal. |
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May 18 2010, 12:14 AM
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it seems like acer are the highest rank of worst.. is that true ? anybody share their problem to acer ??
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May 18 2010, 12:26 AM
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customer is not satisfied with the old model acer because overheat.
the problem is rare to hear about new model acer laptop. acer has improved quality and no longer is highest rank of the worst laptops Added on May 18, 2010, 12:31 amacer laptop can trust This post has been edited by mzzzk8819: May 18 2010, 12:31 AM |
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May 18 2010, 12:44 AM
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no offence atukbaru, but u seems like applefanboy
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May 18 2010, 07:06 AM
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haha ^^...finally some fanboi in the thread
...Well, no need to bash other brands, if you like Macbook then its ..i like Acer, AW, Sager, Asus, BenQ etc etc....You think people here voted for Apple/HP because of their price (and so called High-End models)..that just of the day, we here already done few testing with the laptops itself and even some experienced it themselves, and i think you should think like an Apple also, oh wait.....what is it again, 'Think Different' but obviously from the previous picture only one person 'Think Different' which is the one using Acer, nice isn't it ....We are not bashing one another, some got good experience with Macbook, some don't...while some got problems with their Acer, while some don't ...Easy my friend, stick with Macbook (Apple) if it really satisfy you, as for us, with the budget of Macbook, we can get the likes of M17x/G51Jx/N61Jq/N8690 etc etc ...This post has been edited by miahahaha: May 18 2010, 07:08 AM |
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May 18 2010, 07:16 AM
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Girl : Hey there Guy : Hey, btw why bring your Acer in here? This apps is for OSX only  Girl : My Acer comes with OSX also Guy : lousy Acer with OSX?? That can't be!!! Girl : Yup, just need RM2000 for my laptop and then install OSX ...cheap right, there's thing called Hackintosh you know Guy : ..damn, burnt my RM5000  *This is just for fun only, Apple enthusiast please don't flame me  ..just for LOL only This post has been edited by miahahaha: May 18 2010, 07:18 AM |
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May 18 2010, 07:23 AM
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QUOTE(miahahaha @ May 18 2010, 07:16 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Girl : Hey there Guy : Hey, btw why bring your Acer in here? This apps is for OSX only Girl : My Acer comes with OSX also Guy : lousy Acer with OSX?? That can't be!!! Girl : Yup, just need RM2000 for my laptop and then install OSX ...cheap right, there's thing called Hackintosh you know Guy : ..damn, burnt my RM5000 *This is just for fun only, Apple enthusiast please don't flame me ..just for LOL only |
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May 18 2010, 02:13 PM
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So, which one to buy? I'm confused. |
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May 18 2010, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE(miahahaha @ May 18 2010, 07:16 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Girl : Hey there Guy : Hey, btw why bring your Acer in here? This apps is for OSX only Girl : My Acer comes with OSX also Guy : lousy Acer with OSX?? That can't be!!! Girl : Yup, just need RM2000 for my laptop and then install OSX ...cheap right, there's thing called Hackintosh you know Guy : ..damn, burnt my RM5000 *This is just for fun only, Apple enthusiast please don't flame me ..just for LOL only |
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May 18 2010, 04:41 PM
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hackintosh is useless without the right drivers... I don't think the manufacturers dare release drivers for OSX... can get sued by Apple.
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May 18 2010, 04:51 PM
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QUOTE(miahahaha @ May 18 2010, 07:16 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Girl : Hey there Guy : Hey, btw why bring your Acer in here? This apps is for OSX only Girl : My Acer comes with OSX also Guy : lousy Acer with OSX?? That can't be!!! Girl : Yup, just need RM2000 for my laptop and then install OSX ...cheap right, there's thing called Hackintosh you know Guy : ..damn, burnt my RM5000 *This is just for fun only, Apple enthusiast please don't flame me ..just for LOL only QUOTE(Fantasia @ May 18 2010, 02:17 PM) 1 think bad about hackintosh is it is very hard to get driver... hackintosh hard to get anything. |
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May 18 2010, 04:53 PM
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Support Acer ~.~ I'm Acer user but i like Vaio and Apple design
Since budget had limit so i go for Acer |
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May 18 2010, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE(miahahaha @ May 18 2010, 07:16 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Girl : Hey there Guy : Hey, btw why bring your Acer in here? This apps is for OSX only Girl : My Acer comes with OSX also Guy : lousy Acer with OSX?? That can't be!!! Girl : Yup, just need RM2000 for my laptop and then install OSX ...cheap right, there's thing called Hackintosh you know Guy : ..damn, burnt my RM5000 *This is just for fun only, Apple enthusiast please don't flame me ..just for LOL only |
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May 18 2010, 05:39 PM
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QUOTE(UnderTheSun @ May 18 2010, 02:13 PM) So, which one to buy? I'm confused. Brand doesn't matter  Look at your needs for the laptop and your budget. You have to look at the specs and warranty/after sales service. As for me I'd buy anything that satisfy my needs and money Really.. for the Mac vs other brands it should be whether you use MacOSX or Windows thats it.. |
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May 18 2010, 05:59 PM
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QUOTE(atukbaru @ May 17 2010, 10:20 PM) acer is fine based on my usage 2007-8. The earlier models were crappy. 1. For VAIO and Apple, nobody's complaining about the price. It's the performance you get after you've plunked down 5-6k for average specs. HIGH-END price, MID-RANGE specs. Not worth it. Period.Those who voted for VAIO and Apple need to get a life. Those are HIGH-END laptops, hence the price. I have used HP, Acer and Toshiba previously, and I found my new Apple a world of difference compared to my previous laptop. Nothing beat Macbooks in terms of design and quality.. You can't degrade a laptop just because it's high-end. If you guys don't care about the brand, just price vs. hardware specs, then just go custom make your laptop- let it have no-brand... I'm sure it'll be several hundred cheaper than several brands. Macbooks rock btw(I'm using Win 7 on it)..... 2. Good luck managing those temps of yours. And even though I own a laptop with a slot-loading DVD, I'll admit it is seriously annoying. I'd take a tray-loader over a slot-loader anytime. 3. I don't think you can "custom make" your own laptop... If we could we wouldn't even be having this discussion in the first place.  If you're thinking stuff like ORIGIN PC then you're definitely wrong- those cost 2-3x a standard lappie. 4. What's the point of buying a Macbook if you're going to run Win7 on it? The only thing Mac has going for it is its OS and the nice software included (which is much better than Win7). By doing that, you just took away the only good point in favour of the Macbook, besides the sleek design. Great job on that. |
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May 18 2010, 06:07 PM
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QUOTE(atukbaru @ May 18 2010, 12:11 AM) It looks like a Macbook fan club meeting.. I don't think everyone would take their lappy out in a lecture setting like that.. and all macbook looks more like staged.. the pic could be very true in US or most part of Europe. Even though DELL from US but not many ppl using it. Most ppl used Mac. Only in Asia with their low income would ppl glorify brand like Acer or Dell.ps- Mac just has 3% of the OS share.. the pic above is definitely abnormal. |
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May 18 2010, 06:18 PM
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QUOTE(sn0wle0pard @ May 18 2010, 06:07 PM) the pic could be very true in US or most part of Europe. Even though DELL from US but not many ppl using it. Most ppl used Mac. Only in Asia with their low income would ppl glorify brand like Acer or Dell. We glorify it? We use windows So buy macbook for windows?? Heavy Gamers don't use Macbook |
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May 18 2010, 06:22 PM
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QUOTE(sn0wle0pard @ May 18 2010, 06:07 PM) Only in Asia with their low income would ppl glorify brand like Acer or Dell. i lol-ed go back to your US then. oh oh wait.. you can't because you are Malaysian too  |
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QUOTE(atukbaru @ May 18 2010, 04:41 PM) hackintosh is useless without the right drivers... I don't think the manufacturers dare release drivers for OSX... can get sued by Apple. Managed to run OSX 10.6 with my BenQ S42 ...@snowleopard Yup, most people in US/EU use MAC instead of the likes of Dell/Acer......but, do you see those people in WGC use any of Apple Macbook ...just joking ..Well, we are not saying Macbook are not good, it fantastic btw but when come to games & price, people are more towards on getting what they can within their budget ...A gamer would never go for Macbook ...for design and multimedia apps, OSX can give the best that it can offer but still with the same price, we can get a notebook that can do multimedia apps and games in the same time ..Can do play Assassins Creed II in ULTRA HIGH SPEC with Macbook?? Yes, you can when you use the likes of Sager/Dell instead ...Buying Macbook and installed Win 7 in it just total  ..people go for Macbook because of OSX ...hardware?? even the likes of Compaq & Acer pawned Macbook anytimeAdded on May 18, 2010, 6:29 pmoh wait....you THINK DIFFERENT that's why... This post has been edited by monza84: May 18 2010, 06:35 PM |
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QUOTE(sn0wle0pard @ May 18 2010, 06:07 PM) the pic could be very true in US or most part of Europe. Even though DELL from US but not many ppl using it. Most ppl used Mac. Wow, that means when I got my Dell in the states while most of my IT classmate that time who use other brands but Apple are considered non-american?? or am I studied in a wrong country ?? If your most ppl uses Mac theory is right, then why in the States, Mac OS is still a small percentage compare to Windows? |
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May 18 2010, 06:51 PM
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QUOTE(jotaro12 @ May 18 2010, 06:44 PM) Wow, that means when I got my Dell in the states while most of my IT classmate that time who use other brands but Apple are considered non-american?? or am I studied in a wrong country because that statement is just a plain statement from fanboy, which is pawned by real life statistic. ?? If your most ppl uses Mac theory is right, then why in the States, Mac OS is still a small percentage compare to Windows?no? |
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May 18 2010, 08:08 PM
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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ May 18 2010, 06:51 PM) because that statement is just a plain statement from fanboy, which is pawned by real life statistic. +1 no? sum how i just dont knw how to communicate with fans boy...they mind just fill with their shxt... summore said tht Asia with low income glorify acer & dell... u mean dell & acer cheap? wat a smart ass..can a low income afford an AW? @sn0wle0pard... not happy with me n my statement? go cry to ur mama  This post has been edited by nothing_nth: May 18 2010, 08:08 PM |
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QUOTE(nothing_nth @ May 18 2010, 08:08 PM) . u mean dell & acer cheap? wat a smart ass..can a low income afford an AW? definitely not you, coz ur mama bought u a cheapo low quality Dell. |
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QUOTE(nitevision92 @ May 18 2010, 05:59 PM) 1. For VAIO and Apple, nobody's complaining about the price. It's the performance you get after you've plunked down 5-6k for average specs. HIGH-END price, MID-RANGE specs. Not worth it. Period. i second that. it's about the most bang for buck.QUOTE(sn0wle0pard @ May 18 2010, 06:07 PM) the pic could be very true in US or most part of Europe. Even though DELL from US but not many ppl using it. Most ppl used Mac. Only in Asia with their low income would ppl glorify brand like Acer or Dell. asians with low income glorifying dell and acer? do you know that asian countries are becoming more powerful than ever? (out of topic though) i bet if lin dan ever sees this he'll smack you in the face with his racket.20-30% of the people in malaysia "glorifies" acer, dell and etc. because acer, dell and etc. are the only brand they ever knew and not because of "low income" you should post your statement on NBR. This post has been edited by BlueBean: May 18 2010, 09:09 PM |
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May 18 2010, 09:28 PM
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QUOTE(sn0wle0pard @ May 18 2010, 09:03 PM) definitely not you, coz ur mama bought u a cheapo low quality Dell. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « anyway, maybe i don't have a lot of money to buy imaginary Apple like you...  |
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May 18 2010, 09:36 PM
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Haih. Rich ppl like dat la. Buy Macbook and run Win7 on it...
Well, if my Acer/Dell goes to hell because it's made in China, at least I can still change the batteries without voiding the warranty. This post has been edited by nitevision92: May 18 2010, 09:58 PM |
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May 18 2010, 09:39 PM
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QUOTE(sn0wle0pard @ May 18 2010, 09:03 PM) definitely not you, coz ur mama bought u a cheapo low quality Dell. Cheap they may be but better specs than a Macbook. Overpriced Macs for what reason? Unibody design? Crappy heat management? Back-lit keyboards? Oh please, not even close to being special. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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QUOTE(miahahaha @ May 18 2010, 07:16 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Girl : Hey there Guy : Hey, btw why bring your Acer in here? This apps is for OSX only Girl : My Acer comes with OSX also Guy : lousy Acer with OSX?? That can't be!!! Girl : Yup, just need RM2000 for my laptop and then install OSX ...cheap right, there's thing called Hackintosh you know Guy : ..damn, burnt my RM5000 *This is just for fun only, Apple enthusiast please don't flame me ..just for LOL only |
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May 18 2010, 09:53 PM
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this is starting to sound like /k/...shud we invite some famous /k/ troll here to debate about apple's might?..
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May 18 2010, 09:59 PM
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QUOTE(sn0wle0pard @ May 18 2010, 09:03 PM) definitely not you, coz ur mama bought u a cheapo low quality Dell. What's wrong with people buying other brands besides Apple Mac? It makes them stupid? What if i say Sager/Clevo ? Those are cheapskates like the rest also? and Mac is the allpowerfull 13", 15", and 17" fastest notebooks in the universe? No offense my friend has a macbook does not become a fanboy like you are There's a reason why we choose not to buy Macbooks.. Money we have.. But We'd buy better specs and since that most of us are brought up with Windows yeah.. we'd buy the other brands..Macbook for multimedia editing is nice.. But we want something all in one.. -Good Specs -Reasonable price? -Some people wants Windows Gaming capability -Still can do multimedia editing |
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May 18 2010, 10:06 PM
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QUOTE(sn0wle0pard @ May 18 2010, 09:03 PM) definitely not you, coz ur mama bought u a cheapo low quality Dell. Yup...currently i cant afford an exp laptop...So wat...caz Im still a student..N I dont need an exp laptop for now... But in the future...I might have the $$ to buy an exp laptop...yet i still choose for a "cheap" laptop( acer or dell)...u knw y? caz the extra $$ i can change into coins n throw on ur face...Fans boy~~ @sn0wle0pard... u act like a kids...no point for me to argue vit u anymore... kiddo cont glorify with ur MAC vit win7 |
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May 18 2010, 10:11 PM
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You know what...Alienware can S*** apple hardly
wait...Acer does too! Apple...sn0wle0pard...no point arguing with you...as nothing_nth said..you act like a kid. |
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May 18 2010, 11:52 PM
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QUOTE(nitevision92 @ May 18 2010, 09:36 PM) Haih. Rich ppl like dat la. Buy Macbook and run Win7 on it... oh shit, i farking like this!!!! Well, if my Acer/Dell goes to hell because it's made in China, at least I can still change the batteries without voiding the warranty. +100000000000000000000 seriously, i'm really impress with what Mac OS X can do. Windows can give some which Mac OS X cant and Mac OS X can give something which Windows cant. different ppl different needs. Windows satisfy my need so i choose Windows ^^ |
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May 18 2010, 11:59 PM
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anyway, dun mind to discuss something more constructive here?..
pls advise... a quick question here... AMD athlon II P320 (2.1ghz) and Intel Core Duo T4400 (2.2ghz) which is better?...performance and heat management wise...Both are 45nm.. 1M L2 cache... |
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QUOTE(sn0wle0pard @ May 18 2010, 09:03 PM) definitely not you, coz ur mama bought u a cheapo low quality Dell. at least my mama can play games with less laggy experience on a cheapo low quality Dell...hey...guess what? i can play 1080p youtube on my cheapo low quality dell without lag.....i bet MBP that cost 3 times my dell can do that too.. with the price of MBP, if i get a laptop, i can easily get something that can play Dirt 2 or Assassin's Creed 2 with medium/high setting...what setting can the MBP run? oh wait...it's not even supported...oh my This post has been edited by BBXiong: May 19 2010, 12:11 AM |
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May 19 2010, 12:12 AM
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anyway, dun mind to discuss something more constructive here?..
pls advise... a quick question here... AMD athlon II P320 (2.1ghz) and Intel Core Duo T4400 (2.2ghz) which is better?...performance and heat management wise...Both are 45nm.. 1M L2 cache... |
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QUOTE(fastreader @ May 18 2010, 11:59 PM) anyway, dun mind to discuss something more constructive here?.. both performance seems almost the same to me...maybe get the Intel one?pls advise... a quick question here... AMD athlon II P320 (2.1ghz) and Intel Core Duo T4400 (2.2ghz) which is better?...performance and heat management wise...Both are 45nm.. 1M L2 cache... as for heat management, i guess it's the same for most laptops, of coz, bigger sized laptop will have better heat management Added on May 19, 2010, 12:15 am@fastreader: are u choosing between 2 laptops, if so, i guess it's better for u to open a new thread and ask the pros to suggest...i bet this thread is gonna be heated up for some time... This post has been edited by BBXiong: May 19 2010, 12:15 AM |
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May 19 2010, 12:16 AM
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QUOTE(BBXiong @ May 19 2010, 12:12 AM) both performance seems almost the same to me...maybe get the Intel one? oic...the new amd processor...do u tink it will have issue with heating?.. as for heat management, i guess it's the same for most laptops, of coz, bigger sized laptop will have better heat management Added on May 19, 2010, 12:15 am@fastreader: are u choosing between 2 laptops, if so, i guess it's better for u to open a new thread and ask the pros to suggest...i bet this thread is gonna be heated up for some time... |
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May 19 2010, 12:23 AM
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QUOTE(fastreader @ May 19 2010, 12:16 AM) oic...the new amd processor...do u tink it will have issue with heating?.. That depends on the notebook's cooling system. QUOTE(ALeUNe @ May 18 2010, 11:16 PM) With poor design of cooling, all processors can boil water. |
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QUOTE(nitevision92 @ May 19 2010, 12:23 AM) That depends on the notebook's cooling system. oic...acer cooling system good?..acer aspire 4551...actually its the same cooling system with their recent product line...(such as 4740,4540).. |
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QUOTE(BlueBean @ May 18 2010, 09:04 PM) i second that. it's about the most bang for buck. if ur not a mac,ur irrelevant.asians with low income glorifying dell and acer? do you know that asian countries are becoming more powerful than ever? (out of topic though) i bet if lin dan ever sees this he'll smack you in the face with his racket. 20-30% of the people in malaysia "glorifies" acer, dell and etc. because acer, dell and etc. are the only brand they ever knew and not because of "low income" you should post your statement on NBR. Enjoy your blue screen. |
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May 19 2010, 02:48 AM
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funny conversations here..
anyway, vote already. |
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May 19 2010, 04:16 AM
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QUOTE(qilaf @ May 19 2010, 12:26 AM) if ur not a mac,ur irrelevant. Enjoy your infertility.Enjoy your blue screen. |
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May 19 2010, 06:16 AM
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QUOTE(qilaf @ May 19 2010, 12:26 AM) if ur not a mac,ur irrelevant. so you don't?Enjoy your blue screen. eat this. 
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May 19 2010, 06:28 AM
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QUOTE(qilaf @ May 19 2010, 12:26 AM) if ur not a mac,ur irrelevant. Please la bro, dun make stupid comment such as this....BSOD is normal even for Mac (well i dunno if they got the same name)...even Mac (OSX) hangs sometimes Enjoy your blue screen. ...i got a lot of friends using Macbook and it HANGS also bro ....We are not bashing Mac here, just pointing something out...please bro, not everyone are into Mac because 85% people that use laptop also use it for games....even my friends that using MBP always come to me and borrow my lowly S42 to play Dirt2 & ACII...i said to install Win 7 in their MBP, already installed but they say the performance is not as great as mine...how bro, for business use & doing some multimedia apps, Macbook is great but still when we want one all-rounder laptop, who would go for Mac bro... |
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May 19 2010, 09:03 AM
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QUOTE(monza84 @ May 19 2010, 06:28 AM) Please la bro, dun make stupid comment such as this....BSOD is normal even for Mac (well i dunno if they got the same name)...even Mac (OSX) hangs sometimes ...i got a lot of friends using Macbook and it HANGS also bro ....We are not bashing Mac here, just pointing something out...please bro, not everyone are into Mac because 85% people that use laptop also use it for games....even my friends that using MBP always come to me and borrow my lowly S42 to play Dirt2 & ACII...i said to install Win 7 in their MBP, already installed but they say the performance is not as great as mine...how bro, for business use & doing some multimedia apps, Macbook is great but still when we want one all-rounder laptop, who would go for Mac bro... Nicely said There's a reason why Windows 7 and MacOSX are different.. Coming to think of it isnt it more of an OS thingy? not the hardware This post has been edited by Eugene91: May 19 2010, 09:04 AM |
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QUOTE(qilaf @ May 19 2010, 12:26 AM) if ur not a mac,ur irrelevant. of course i'm not a mac, but i do use macbook and mac pro which is in the office.Enjoy your blue screen. |
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May 19 2010, 10:11 AM
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QUOTE(fastreader @ May 19 2010, 12:25 AM) oic...acer cooling system good?..acer aspire 4551...actually its the same cooling system with their recent product line...(such as 4740,4540).. recent acer laptops are ok, as least my friend is using the the newer aspire series, first batch after they redesigned the aspire series...so far i havent really heard him complain about overheating issue...normally processors are ok one la, it's the GPU u wanna worry about....my BenQ s42 have bad habit of overheating, play heavy games and it shots to 90C+Added on May 19, 2010, 10:16 am QUOTE(qilaf @ May 19 2010, 12:26 AM) if ur not a mac,ur irrelevant. don post something stupid as this...been using W7 for months now and have yet to 'enjoy' any blue screen...Enjoy your blue screen. what Mac sells is usage experience, the nice UI, easy to use and all, where windows is more suitable for normal home user that wants to just spend a affordable sum of money and get a PC to connect to the internet, play some game and watch some tv show.... it's like comparing android and iphone OS, one selling features, another one selling simplicity....sure can compare, but in the end, different ppl have different opinion, and each have their advantage and disadvantage... This post has been edited by BBXiong: May 19 2010, 10:16 AM |
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May 19 2010, 10:19 AM
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omg lol, this thread has become apple fanbox vs non-apple fan boy
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May 19 2010, 10:45 AM
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The problem is, we never said that Macbook (Apple) is a bad product, just that their product are higher priced & also the recent MBP (i5) is a HEAT GENERATOR....
Like-wise, when people said my BenQ S42 is a HEAT GENERATOR, i would answer YES, because it is ...well, the heat still bearable ...i would never say anything to defend it as it is useless because facts already been stated...Just remember : A GOOD CONSUMER ALWAYS KNOWS PROS & CONS OF THE PRODUCT *Sager, yes its a superb laptop and i never heard any defect unit or what so ever but still for us here in MY, the problem would be the warranty, one of the reason why some still hesitated when want to buy Sager... *AW, a gaming line laptop with spec is worthy to be praise but then again after being under Dell, got to say the quality are somehow decreased, but worry not as we know that Dell aftersales service is SUPERB, one reason for getting AW *MB (Apple), worthy product that can live up to its name worldwide, and combo of spec & operating system that would WOW people but then again, need to exclude the pleasure of high-end gaming because the spec are just so-so only and the price is just for someAdded on May 19, 2010, 10:51 amNot saying i'm a good consumer though, me just average only, noob some more This post has been edited by monza84: May 19 2010, 10:51 AM |
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May 19 2010, 02:56 PM
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oh this thread is still exist. i thought its been invi-ed already.
ok times up. lets stop bashing them and you Apple fanboys, stop being too serious. please accept positive comments from others, for the sake of this thread. |
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May 19 2010, 03:53 PM
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ok, tq. if i may sum up.. (correct me if i'm wrong)
1. macbooks are for graphic or office geeks 2. windows are for general people or gamers hmm.. looks like i'm in category 2. i also think that it's not worth buying computers for status. computers and cars become out-of-date in just a few years. if we wanna buy something for status, it will be a house. it will last long. This post has been edited by UnderTheSun: May 19 2010, 03:53 PM |
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May 19 2010, 03:57 PM
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QUOTE(UnderTheSun @ May 19 2010, 03:53 PM) ok, tq. if i may sum up.. (correct me if i'm wrong) wrong!!!1. macbooks are for graphic or office geeks 2. windows are for general people or gamers hmm.. looks like i'm in category 2. i also think that it's not worth buying computers for status. computers and cars become out-of-date in just a few years. if we wanna buy something for status, it will be a house. it will last long. macbooks is for those who want to use Mac OS X ^^ laptop other than apple are for those who want to use windows, linux and bla bla bla |
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QUOTE(Fantasia @ May 19 2010, 03:57 PM) wrong!!! agree..what Mac have is MAC OS (but not using the latest hardware)..macbooks is for those who want to use Mac OS X ^^ laptop other than apple are for those who want to use windows, linux and bla bla bla other OS (e.g. windows) have latest hardware... This post has been edited by Mie131085: May 19 2010, 04:33 PM |
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May 19 2010, 05:04 PM
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hmm.. okay. so, those who prefer superior operating system will choose Macbooks. Those who prefer superior hardwares will choose PC notebooks. |
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May 19 2010, 08:18 PM
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I actually want to applaud the thread starter for thinking of this. Compared to a poll that asks your favorite/best laptop brand, a poll that asks the worst will get far more attention & sincerity. The simple reason being that you more or less eliminate the problem of fanboys and marketing idiots.
Anyone trained to sell can hype up the good/unique/awesome/etc features that a particular brand of laptops have to offer. But it takes real analysis and/or experience for a person to find out the weak points. Hence my argument for sincerity. As for the poll results, I'm not all that surprised that Acer is the worst, followed by HP and Apple. Acer has had a bad history of technical problems, and these things tend to stick, so suck it up Acer. I can't comment on HP because I've never used one. And Apple is really more of a specialized machine instead of the PCs most people prefer. (That being said, I personally know a guy who bought the new 17in MBP for Facebook.) My final comment is this: You could remove the irrelevant brands from the list to get more meaningful data, eg. Toshiba, Fujitsu, Packard Bell. Oh and I voted for Sony Vaio, because I think they're overpriced and overbloated Apple wanna-bes. |
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May 19 2010, 08:23 PM
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hp i believe it could be due to their compaq line...as quoted from a post here.
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May 19 2010, 08:32 PM
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QUOTE(katana18 @ May 19 2010, 08:18 PM) I actually want to applaud the thread starter for thinking of this. Compared to a poll that asks your favorite/best laptop brand, a poll that asks the worst will get far more attention & sincerity. The simple reason being that you more or less eliminate the problem of fanboys and marketing idiots. Anyone trained to sell can hype up the good/unique/awesome/etc features that a particular brand of laptops have to offer. But it takes real analysis and/or experience for a person to find out the weak points. Hence my argument for sincerity. As for the poll results, I'm not all that surprised that Acer is the worst, followed by HP and Apple. Acer has had a bad history of technical problems, and these things tend to stick, so suck it up Acer. I can't comment on HP because I've never used one. And Apple is really more of a specialized machine instead of the PCs most people prefer. (That being said, I personally know a guy who bought the new 17in MBP for Facebook.) My final comment is this: You could remove the irrelevant brands from the list to get more meaningful data, eg. Toshiba, Fujitsu, Packard Bell. Oh and I voted for Sony Vaio, because I think they're overpriced and overbloated Apple wanna-bes. Facebook is prettier on the MBP? |
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May 19 2010, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE(SonicSpyro @ May 19 2010, 08:32 PM) Facebook is prettier on the MBP? |
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May 19 2010, 08:36 PM
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QUOTE(fastreader @ May 19 2010, 08:33 PM) they got lotsa spare chagne..wat to do.. "Eh eh.... that pic looks ugly on your laptop. Come I show you on my MBP.""Look at my farm! The crops look like better than on your screen!" Super for people like this.... ~_~ |
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May 19 2010, 08:41 PM
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QUOTE(SonicSpyro @ May 19 2010, 08:36 PM) "Eh eh.... that pic looks ugly on your laptop. Come I show you on my MBP." hey don't play2 ok!!"Look at my farm! The crops look like better than on your screen!" Super for people like this.... ~_~you can see worm in Farmville when use MBP you know! /diff stroke for diff folks. as long as they are using their own money, who are we to judge them? |
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QUOTE(UnderTheSun @ May 19 2010, 03:53 PM) ok, tq. if i may sum up.. (correct me if i'm wrong) Tell me, how can a Macbook with the usual C2D and so-so specs do graphics/video editing better than a newer better spec'd Windows-based laptop? I think it's more on mindset. The general public just thinks that Apple is "better at Design and artwork" rather than Windows, something I personally don't believe in1. macbooks are for graphic or office geeks 2. windows are for general people or gamers hmm.. looks like i'm in category 2. i also think that it's not worth buying computers for status. computers and cars become out-of-date in just a few years. if we wanna buy something for status, it will be a house. it will last long. This post has been edited by joyyy: May 19 2010, 08:45 PM |
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May 19 2010, 08:47 PM
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QUOTE(UnderTheSun @ May 19 2010, 05:04 PM) hmm.. okay. so, those who prefer superior operating system will choose Macbooks. Those who prefer superior hardwares will choose PC notebooks. i hate to bring this up on this thread, since it will probably attract another barrage of fanboyism...but for the sake of setting the record straight: Mac OS X is in no way more superior than Windows, and by that i mean Vista... ask any Windows hackers, and they'll say that Mac OS X is in fact easier to hack than Vista... MS is a pain in their back when Vista is introduced... and now with Win7, it's even harder to hack or spread malicious programs... the only reason y Mac OS X seldom lands on the hackers' radar is purely due to the sheer market share of Windows... and Apple is not very honest when comes to fixing up their OS... if vulnerabilities are found, MS would issue notices, proposes temporary solution, and issue a hotfix asap... Apple??? they would keep quiet abt it, then take their own sweet time to patch up the hole... sometimes it's not fixed when new version is out... on top of that they blame others for hogging their OS to a crawl (case in point, Adobe), and their legal team is trigger happy as well... |
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May 19 2010, 08:49 PM
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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ May 19 2010, 08:41 PM) hey don't play2 ok!! Ok larrr... I back off... i know my laptop so lame till cannot see worm in Farmville. you can see worm in Farmville when use MBP you know! /diff stroke for diff folks. as long as they are using their own money, who are we to judge them? |
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May 19 2010, 09:07 PM
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QUOTE(SonicSpyro @ May 19 2010, 08:49 PM) Ok larrr... I back off... i know my laptop so lame till cannot see worm in Farmville. I Lol-ed when i saw ur comment...but when i saw ur laptop spec...I lol-ed louder... Clevo W860CU | 1080p FHD | i7-720QM | HD 5870M | 4GB DDR3 RAM | 320GB WD3200BEKT | Intel 5300 ok back to topic...juz like wat i told from the beginning of this poll...It is MISLEADING every1...yet a potential fire starter ...caz if those fans boy knw tht ppl vote their brand...they will start to sound... just like those kiddos we faced few days before...... sound without strong reasoning statement In conclusion...IMO every brand got their fail & success models...WE CANT JUDGE ON BRAND... it is not fair at all...( just like wat i said few days b4) |
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May 19 2010, 09:33 PM
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We should start a thread that collects infromation about the worst laptop models, what problems people have experienced etc. Then we can be fair.
For example: X Brand notebook Y model | Problem | Action taken by X Brand | QUOTE Ok larrr... I back off... i know my laptop so lame till cannot see worm in Farmville. /like. LOL. This post has been edited by nitevision92: May 19 2010, 09:39 PM |
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May 21 2010, 09:19 AM
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wow! so many voted Acer. I am using Acer almost 10 years now both home and office. hey! tell you what, no problem at all! still fit until now.
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May 21 2010, 09:32 AM
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I vote for Lenovo. Horrible experience with my Thinkpad R400. Within 1 year,changed motherboard once (cannot turn on at all) and LCD twice (screen flickering, another time is whole screen white colour).
One cannot associate all Lenovo machines with IBM. IBM only support Lenovo Thinkpad notebook. Ideapad series is supported by another party. Lenovo's product quality cannot be compared to old IBM Thinkpad notebooks (old T40, T41, T42). |
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May 21 2010, 11:32 AM
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QUOTE(k!nex @ May 21 2010, 09:32 AM) I vote for Lenovo. Horrible experience with my Thinkpad R400. Within 1 year,changed motherboard once (cannot turn on at all) and LCD twice (screen flickering, another time is whole screen white colour). support u bro, when u open up lenovo or IBM's laptop, thier interior is f***ing ugly, a mess inside it. Even Acer is much better than lenovo...One cannot associate all Lenovo machines with IBM. IBM only support Lenovo Thinkpad notebook. Ideapad series is supported by another party. Lenovo's product quality cannot be compared to old IBM Thinkpad notebooks (old T40, T41, T42). the wire, chassis, arrange like shit... For me i vote for HP/Compaq |
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May 21 2010, 12:05 PM
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QUOTE(putochip123 @ May 21 2010, 11:32 AM) support u bro, when u open up lenovo or IBM's laptop, thier interior is f***ing ugly, a mess inside it. Even Acer is much better than lenovo... Wow...A truly hater. the wire, chassis, arrange like shit... |
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May 21 2010, 12:13 PM
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No offence, but lenovo's qc is not that good apparently. A few of my friends are using lenovo (thinkpad series). All of them are having problems with their laptop within a year.
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May 21 2010, 03:34 PM
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I don't know why Acer is highly voted as worse laptop. I was ex Acer Travelmate user from 2003 till 2007. Even though have some cracks (drop a few times and also I hit it with my hand due to tension with programming hehe). But it was quite tough. Now I'm looking for new Acer laptop..currently really admire with 4740G. nice, solid and the price is reasonable :-)
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May 21 2010, 04:44 PM
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QUOTE(Gembala Kambing @ May 21 2010, 03:34 PM) I don't know why Acer is highly voted as worse laptop. I was ex Acer Travelmate user from 2003 till 2007. Even though have some cracks (drop a few times and also I hit it with my hand due to tension with programming hehe). But it was quite tough. Now I'm looking for new Acer laptop..currently really admire with 4740G. nice, solid and the price is reasonable :-) Reasonable as we all know previous Acer laptop (especially Aspire Series in year 2004~2008) gives a lot of problem to consumers, my friends Acer also the same..while mine Travelmate (maybe same as yours) last till now |
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May 21 2010, 04:51 PM
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Acer is the cheapest of all if rating from same spec . . . what else you guys wanna ask for ? cheap + good quality ?
For me, the laptop can survive 3~4 years are good enough, after that would be the time for changing new lappy for gaming ^^ even toshiba with 0 vote, dont tell me it could playing any updated games 4~5 years later with no/less problem ...... |
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May 21 2010, 04:57 PM
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QUOTE(make87 @ May 21 2010, 04:51 PM) Acer is the cheapest of all if rating from same spec . . . what else you guys wanna ask for ? cheap + good quality ? Agree, 3- 4 years fair enough already for gamers~~ Old notebook either sell or give to siblings since still can use For me, the laptop can survive 3~4 years are good enough, after that would be the time for changing new lappy for gaming ^^ even toshiba with 0 vote, dont tell me it could playing any updated games 4~5 years later with no/less problem ...... Those using the M500-S433 model will definitely hate Toshiba LOL |
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May 21 2010, 06:53 PM
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just got my Asus F8sg back..
Asus awesome service.. change mobo and fan for me.. nice |
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May 21 2010, 10:51 PM
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love acer mang, use them almost 1 year oredy, play games, programming and many more ......hate none
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May 22 2010, 01:49 AM
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haha so far toshiba no problem 0 vote lol
nah i don't think i hate the m500-s433 i love it just tht i think its related with the software problem -_____-" |
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May 22 2010, 02:47 AM
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QUOTE(dRaKoZ @ May 22 2010, 01:49 AM) haha so far toshiba no problem 0 vote lol wow..toshiba is reli escaping the heat here... nah i don't think i hate the m500-s433 i love it just tht i think its related with the software problem -_____-" |
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May 22 2010, 08:03 AM
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Because just few of users here that use Toshiba, i also got a Toshiba Protege..so far there's no problem with it
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May 22 2010, 10:40 AM
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QUOTE(dRaKoZ @ May 22 2010, 01:49 AM) haha so far toshiba no problem 0 vote lol My girlfriend couldn't change her notebook leh nah i don't think i hate the m500-s433 i love it just tht i think its related with the software problem -_____-" Man you are one lucky fella haha |
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May 22 2010, 12:16 PM
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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ May 22 2010, 10:40 AM) My girlfriend couldn't change her notebook leh hahahaha!! serious? wow not because i'm lucky because i manage to talk it out LOL! Man you are one lucky fella haha i got to change my toshiba 3 times btw ;P 1st set is because i noticed scratches so he open a new box, then as i said the problem with the error, change again on April then May change to Vaio hahaha! |
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May 22 2010, 12:35 PM
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Toshiba usually got a lot of problem with their LCD connector, my friend change his LCD through warranty about 4 times and then the SC suggested to change his laptop to a different model with less problem
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May 23 2010, 02:59 AM
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toshiba for me is ok...so far natin happen yet
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May 23 2010, 03:19 AM
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1 vote for toshiba now..
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May 23 2010, 05:13 AM
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You think I'd give a fcuk if your Proton(Acer) has better specs compared to my BMW(Macbook)?
There's a lot more that goes into a laptop than just specs.. I learnt that after switching my 7 month old toshiba to a Macbook. It's way more comfortable/interesting to watch a HD TV SHow on a Macbook compared to a Toshiba.... This post has been edited by atukbaru: May 23 2010, 05:14 AM |
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May 23 2010, 06:25 AM
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QUOTE(atukbaru @ May 23 2010, 05:13 AM) You think I'd give a fcuk if your Proton(Acer) has better specs compared to my BMW(Macbook)? Bla bla bla... We get it... Apple is KING... Now go get this:There's a lot more that goes into a laptop than just specs.. I learnt that after switching my 7 month old toshiba to a Macbook. It's way more comfortable/interesting to watch a HD TV SHow on a Macbook compared to a Toshiba.... |
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May 23 2010, 08:28 AM
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QUOTE(atukbaru @ May 23 2010, 05:13 AM) You think I'd give a fcuk if your Proton(Acer) has better specs compared to my BMW(Macbook)? If you are comparing spec between Acer & Macbook which have the same price There's a lot more that goes into a laptop than just specs.. I learnt that after switching my 7 month old toshiba to a Macbook. It's way more comfortable/interesting to watch a HD TV SHow on a Macbook compared to a Toshiba.... ..i tell you this, Acer spec wins hands down...MBP13 = C2D 2.4GHz + NV 320M @SGD2188 Acer Aspire 4820TG = i7 620M + HD5650 @SGD2198 So, tell me which spec is better ....people buy Macbook because of OSX ..not Macbook itself ...i say it again, its the OSX!!!!...my BenQ is just also comfortable watching HD TV Show without any lags or problem ...This post has been edited by miahahaha: May 23 2010, 11:22 AM |
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May 23 2010, 08:41 AM
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macbook is more expensive just because OSX and design.
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May 23 2010, 09:43 AM
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if u compare MacBook Pro with Acer 4820TG (5650 gpu) then of coz Acer better.
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May 23 2010, 10:54 AM
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QUOTE(alex890628 @ May 23 2010, 09:43 AM) if u compare MacBook Pro with Acer 4820TG (5650 gpu) then of coz Acer better. |
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May 23 2010, 11:18 AM
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QUOTE(atukbaru @ May 23 2010, 05:13 AM) You think I'd give a fcuk if your Proton(Acer) has better specs compared to my BMW(Macbook)? What the ?? U compare Proton with Acer? There's a lot more that goes into a laptop than just specs.. I learnt that after switching my 7 month old toshiba to a Macbook. It's way more comfortable/interesting to watch a HD TV SHow on a Macbook compared to a Toshiba.... Define "It's way more comfortable/interesting to watch a HD TV SHow" This depends on the codec and the lcd la You want real HD? make sure its a 1080P LCD when you buy a notebook... Sorry la.. Macbook for HD TV Show ONLY? Seriously? I'd prefer, I think most prefer an allrounder notebook. Added on May 23, 2010, 11:18 am QUOTE(mzzzk8819 @ May 23 2010, 08:41 AM) macbook is more expensive just because OSX and design. +1 Support youThis post has been edited by Eugene91: May 23 2010, 11:18 AM |
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May 23 2010, 11:19 AM
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only macbook pro 17" has 1080p. macbook white only 1280X800 only
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May 23 2010, 11:24 AM
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No use talking..just let him be with his Macbook
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May 23 2010, 01:39 PM
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QUOTE(miahahaha @ May 23 2010, 11:24 AM) No use talking..just let him be with his Macbook Wait till he gets that Macbook Wheel. All the girls will flock to him coz he got Macbook wor......we are satisfied with ours "Look at my worm!!! It's blue and I named him Bluey." |
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May 23 2010, 01:45 PM
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I had an Acer 5 years back, and yes, it was problematic and quality wise, deteriorated after one year..
But the latest bunch, looks solid and sturdy. They have learned their lessons I have a dell now though but I have colleagues who recently bought acers... and its good feedback from them |
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May 23 2010, 01:55 PM
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BMW with Kancil engine. 'Nuff said.
If he wants to Back on topic- Acer's quality improvement over these years has impressed me. Solid products now, far cry from those defects we saw a couple years back. |
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May 23 2010, 02:11 PM
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based on the replies on this thread and the votes for Apple just because of it's price, I'd say this thread is filled with cheapos.... Malaysians... can't afford a premium priced laptop coz of various reason, just f*** it down with a "lousiest laptop vote"...LOL
ps- to the idiot who said that Apple is not high-end because of specs-the term high-end is not limited to specs(this guy is a marketing noob).. If you say a Macbook is all about OSX... you got it wrong... |
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May 23 2010, 02:14 PM
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QUOTE(atukbaru @ May 23 2010, 02:11 PM) based on the replies on this thread and the votes for Apple just because of it's price, I'd say this thread is filled with cheapos.... Malaysians... can't afford a premium priced laptop coz of various reason, just f*** it down with a "lousiest laptop vote"...LOL hi, troll feeder...how's ur Sunday?...computer is a tools for u to complete ur work...not smth to worship...so, any comp tat can get the job done, its a gud comp...ps- to the idiot who said that Apple is not high-end because of specs-the term high-end is not limited to specs(this guy is a marketing noob).. If you say a Macbook is all about OSX... you got it wrong... |
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May 23 2010, 02:29 PM
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QUOTE(atukbaru @ May 23 2010, 02:11 PM) based on the replies on this thread and the votes for Apple just because of it's price, I'd say this thread is filled with cheapos.... Malaysians... can't afford a premium priced laptop coz of various reason, just f*** it down with a "lousiest laptop vote"...LOL Yo dude, ever heard the likes of Sager/Clevo/Alienware/Asus ROG...those are premium laptops also and their price can match Macbook, you think people cannot afford Macbook...wake up can smell the coffee bro ps- to the idiot who said that Apple is not high-end because of specs-the term high-end is not limited to specs(this guy is a marketing noob).. If you say a Macbook is all about OSX... you got it wrong... ...don't just live in a life on your own and get facts to get your replies on the right lane ...Cheapos!! haha ^^..never knew that ones that bought Asus ROG/Sager are cheapos ..Premium priced laptop, oh my...please la bro, if i want to use only Window for my work, why would i buy Macbook...Run out of replies to defend you precious Macbook ain't ya ..Please go google about MBP latest news.... Apple is not high-end laptop (marketing noob), can you please explain more on this, and can you list down which laptop in terms of spec & price that is comparable with Macbook, in terms of performance also, care to list down Macbook is not only about OSX, then please enlighten us, what also Macbook can offer us ...Added on May 23, 2010, 2:31 pmAnd for you information, i also owned a MBP13 and Macbook Air ...but i don't worship it like you do...be real instead of bringing shame to yourself This post has been edited by miahahaha: May 23 2010, 02:32 PM |
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May 23 2010, 02:33 PM
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QUOTE(atukbaru @ May 23 2010, 02:11 PM) based on the replies on this thread and the votes for Apple just because of it's price, I'd say this thread is filled with cheapos.... Malaysians... can't afford a premium priced laptop coz of various reason, just f*** it down with a "lousiest laptop vote"...LOL Stop stroking your iDick by implying that price = performance/quality. Cheap ass-ed Macs, like any other laptop will break. Steve won't award you with "Apple-tard of the Year" for telling us the opposite. Different people have different tastes and different perception of quality. You, just want to show off. In the end, everything breaks down and you'd have to buy a new one. What's the point of installing Windows 7 on a Mac and using it for HDTV stuff. That's not even 1% of the total capacity a Mac has. Then again, go and delude yourself that your Mac is "All-Powerful". We don't care. Not because we're jealous but because we know that ours are better. You're probably living off cup noodles after buying that Mac and finding out it's not all that it's hyped to be. You know that as a fact and you don't want to admit it.ps- to the idiot who said that Apple is not high-end because of specs-the term high-end is not limited to specs(this guy is a marketing noob).. If you say a Macbook is all about OSX... you got it wrong... Now prove that your Mac is "high-end". |
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May 23 2010, 02:35 PM
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QUOTE(miahahaha @ May 23 2010, 02:29 PM) Macbook is not only about OSX, then please enlighten us, what also Macbook can offer us QFT....Maybe a ticket into Steve Job's iPants. Who knows, I've never owned a 17" unibody aluminium heatsink before.... This post has been edited by nitevision92: May 23 2010, 02:39 PM |
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May 23 2010, 02:36 PM
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if you're buying a Laptop and the price is the main criteria, I'd suggest you stay with your cheapo Acer, coz cheapos won't be able to enjoy a macbook..
If the price of the laptop is the least of your concern, then hit the apple store and get your macbook... you'd enjoy it every bit... Lets say if I'm comparing a Acer with a Toshiba with exact specs.. The Toshiba would likely to be much more expensive that the Acer... you're probably paying for a "better" brand, customer service, reliability and many other things.. if you disregard most of the stuff, and just care about the specs, you're probably gonna get almost the same machine with a different tag... But if you add a Macbook in comparison, you're getting a totally different experience compared to Acer and Toshiba...(not including comparing the operating system at all) Most of the guys who voted for Apple and bashed Macbooks in this thread has probably never used a Macbook for a prolonged time.. They perhaps saw it at the showroom and couldn't go near or perhaps their friend/unty/grandmother owns a macbook sometime ago... They hardly had any experience with it rather than the online reviews and the price tag...get a life noobs... the point of this thread is to vote for brands that you have already used and had issues with.... Not brands that you can't afford for whatever reason. |
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May 23 2010, 02:38 PM
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@atukbaru
Read my reply please ...never use Macbook...you make me laugh |
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May 23 2010, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE(atukbaru @ May 23 2010, 05:13 AM) You think I'd give a fcuk if your Proton(Acer) has better specs compared to my BMW(Macbook)? you are unbelievable....There's a lot more that goes into a laptop than just specs.. I learnt that after switching my 7 month old toshiba to a Macbook. It's way more comfortable/interesting to watch a HD TV SHow on a Macbook compared to a Toshiba.... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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May 23 2010, 02:41 PM
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QUOTE(atukbaru @ May 23 2010, 02:36 PM) if you're buying a Laptop and the price is the main criteria, I'd suggest you stay with your cheapo Acer, coz cheapos won't be able to enjoy a macbook.. How is it different? If the price of the laptop is the least of your concern, then hit the apple store and get your macbook... you'd enjoy it every bit... Lets say if I'm comparing a Acer with a Toshiba with exact specs.. The Toshiba would likely to be much more expensive that the Acer... you're probably paying for a "better" brand, customer service, reliability and many other things.. if you disregard most of the stuff, and just care about the specs, you're probably gonna get almost the same machine with a different tag... But if you add a Macbook in comparison, you're getting a totally different experience compared to Acer and Toshiba...(not including comparing the operating system at all) Most of the guys who voted for Apple and bashed Macbooks in this thread has probably never used a Macbook for a prolonged time.. They perhaps saw it at the showroom and couldn't go near or perhaps their friend/unty/grandmother owns a macbook sometime ago... They hardly had any experience with it rather than the online reviews and the price tag...get a life noobs... the point of this thread is to vote for brands that you have already used and had issues with.... Not brands that you can't afford for whatever reason. Screen? Keyboard? Backlit keyboard? WiFi range? Slot load DVD? Multi-touch trackpad? That cute little power button? Steve's body odour? |
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May 23 2010, 02:42 PM
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QUOTE(atukbaru @ May 23 2010, 02:11 PM) based on the replies on this thread and the votes for Apple just because of it's price, I'd say this thread is filled with cheapos.... Malaysians... can't afford a premium priced laptop coz of various reason, just f*** it down with a "lousiest laptop vote"...LOL I think you've got it wrong ps- to the idiot who said that Apple is not high-end because of specs-the term high-end is not limited to specs(this guy is a marketing noob).. If you say a Macbook is all about OSX... you got it wrong... OSX is awesome But other notebooks has better specs for Windows 7 |
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May 23 2010, 02:44 PM
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I bought a brand new Toshiba at the end of last year... I dumped my Toshiba and never looked back....
ps- think for a moment... voting a Brand - the worst brand of the year, just because it's expensive,... is pretty sad... ps2-we all wear watches to keep track of the time.. most of the watches don't offer any extra features than time and date... that means, rolex is the lousiest watch of the year, coz of it's price. |
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May 23 2010, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE(atukbaru @ May 23 2010, 02:44 PM) I bought a brand new Toshiba at the end of last year... I dumped my Toshiba and never looked back.... Oh my...you just didn't get it do you...ps- think for a moment... voting a Brand - the worst brand of the year, just because it's expensive,... is pretty sad... ps2-we all wear watches to keep track of the time.. most of the watches don't offer any extra features than time and date... that means, rolex is the lousiest watch of the year, coz of it's price. ...Rolex sells BRAND & QUALITY...even a 2" kid knows that...Macbook also the same but then again referring to spec, others seems a lot better unless you want to use OSX...Back again to the question, What can MACBOOK offer us except for the fact that it uses OSX Just like Sony VAIO, they sell the BRAND...same goes with Macbook, they sell BRAND & OSX.... |
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May 23 2010, 02:50 PM
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QUOTE(miahahaha @ May 23 2010, 02:49 PM) Oh my...you just didn't get it do you... Yes please do answer "What can MACBOOK offer us except for the fact that it uses OSX"...Rolex sells BRAND & QUALITY...even a 2" kid knows that...Macbook also the same but then again referring to spec, others seems a lot better unless you want to use OSX...Back again to the question, What can MACBOOK offer us except for the fact that it uses OSX Just like Sony VAIO, they sell the BRAND...same goes with Macbook, they sell BRAND & OSX.... |
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May 23 2010, 02:50 PM
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I want Window 7 to play Crysis Warhead...can Macbook gives me the same quality that Sager N8690 gives in terms of game performance & quality
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May 23 2010, 02:50 PM
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QUOTE(Eugene91 @ May 23 2010, 02:42 PM) I think you've got it wrong Basic economics will tell you that Windows will naturally be a 1000 times better than OSX OSX is awesome But other notebooks has better specs for Windows 7 1) Windows has access to more R&D funding due to the marketshare 2) Well known fact- Windows has more applications/softwares/ etc 3) Windows has more feedback from users due to more users, which allows the developers to make better applications and fix known flaws faster 4) If you have an issue with windows, a google search will probably fix it, coz there would be other users who experienced the exact situation, while with a Mac, the probability of that happening is way lower. The only good thing I've heard about Mac OSX is about the bundled software... I don't think it's such a big deal as I don't work with videos or photos. Added on May 23, 2010, 2:57 pmand another thing... Apple offers a good brand + quality.... not good enough to justify a high price? I wonder if Acer beats Apple's brand and quality.... Stop comparing Apples with Acer, noobies. Don't compare apples with oranges...lol This post has been edited by atukbaru: May 23 2010, 02:57 PM |
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May 23 2010, 03:01 PM
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Seen the Acer Aspire Ethos? http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Acer-A...ok.31260.0.html
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May 23 2010, 03:09 PM
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QUOTE(atukbaru @ May 23 2010, 02:50 PM) Basic economics will tell you that Windows will naturally be a 1000 times better than OSX Ok then, lets now compare Macbook Pro 17 with Asus G73Jh, both are 17"...reliable BRAND & also gives quality products 1) Windows has access to more R&D funding due to the marketshare 2) Well known fact- Windows has more applications/softwares/ etc 3) Windows has more feedback from users due to more users, which allows the developers to make better applications and fix known flaws faster 4) If you have an issue with windows, a google search will probably fix it, coz there would be other users who experienced the exact situation, while with a Mac, the probability of that happening is way lower. The only good thing I've heard about Mac OSX is about the bundled software... I don't think it's such a big deal as I don't work with videos or photos. Added on May 23, 2010, 2:57 pmand another thing... Apple offers a good brand + quality.... not good enough to justify a high price? I wonder if Acer beats Apple's brand and quality.... Stop comparing Apples with Acer, noobies. Don't compare apples with oranges...lol ...Which do you think people would want to buy ...This post has been edited by miahahaha: May 23 2010, 03:11 PM |
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May 23 2010, 03:17 PM
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QUOTE(atukbaru @ May 23 2010, 02:36 PM) if you're buying a Laptop and the price is the main criteria, I'd suggest you stay with your cheapo Acer, coz cheapos won't be able to enjoy a macbook.. fuyoo sounds like a millionaire or billionaire to me...R U? If the price of the laptop is the least of your concern, then hit the apple store and get your macbook... you'd enjoy it every bit... Lets say if I'm comparing a Acer with a Toshiba with exact specs.. The Toshiba would likely to be much more expensive that the Acer... you're probably paying for a "better" brand, customer service, reliability and many other things.. if you disregard most of the stuff, and just care about the specs, you're probably gonna get almost the same machine with a different tag... But if you add a Macbook in comparison, you're getting a totally different experience compared to Acer and Toshiba...(not including comparing the operating system at all) Most of the guys who voted for Apple and bashed Macbooks in this thread has probably never used a Macbook for a prolonged time.. They perhaps saw it at the showroom and couldn't go near or perhaps their friend/unty/grandmother owns a macbook sometime ago... They hardly had any experience with it rather than the online reviews and the price tag...get a life noobs... the point of this thread is to vote for brands that you have already used and had issues with.... Not brands that you can't afford for whatever reason. use acer = cheapo , use mac = rich ass? fulamak... sounds like being a rich guy kinda ez to me... 1 more thing... u saw a >10k+ laptop b4? nvr? go ask sum1 who own a sager or aw laptop... then u tell me wat is premium laptop... 1st of all...some1 who voted mac becaz of its price...ITS TRUE... MBP vit such a failed cooling system...yet u still wan us to vote a to it? come on...read through whole thread then u will knw...how childish r u  we r just telling fact...fact wont lie...Apple n Win didnt pay me...I dont need to help them to promote their brand..I just judge based on wat i see... LASTLY, WE BUY WHATEVER BRAND LAPTOP IS OUR CHOICE... PLZ DON'T JUST JUDGE ON A LAPTOP N CONDEMN PPL CHEAPO... p/s: tiring to teach those kiddo ... This post has been edited by nothing_nth: May 23 2010, 03:18 PM |
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May 23 2010, 03:44 PM
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yo atukbaru, since you talkcock so much, care to provide screenshot of your Macbook? or you just a plain fanboy that don't even own it?
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May 23 2010, 03:47 PM
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Using only Acer notebook,how do i pick? LOL i guess i vote for Acer then.
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May 23 2010, 03:50 PM
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QUOTE(siksa @ May 23 2010, 03:47 PM) Using only Acer notebook,how do i pick? LOL i guess i vote for Acer then. what problem do you face with you Acer? care to share? |
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May 23 2010, 03:56 PM
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QUOTE(miahahaha @ May 23 2010, 02:49 PM) Oh my...you just didn't get it do you... i'll answer this......Rolex sells BRAND & QUALITY...even a 2" kid knows that...Macbook also the same but then again referring to spec, others seems a lot better unless you want to use OSX...Back again to the question, What can MACBOOK offer us except for the fact that it uses OSX Just like Sony VAIO, they sell the BRAND...same goes with Macbook, they sell BRAND & OSX.... a mobile water iBoiler for ur iCoffee |
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May 23 2010, 03:59 PM
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QUOTE(astria @ May 23 2010, 03:56 PM) i'll answer this... Thanks for the reply master a mobile water iBoiler for ur iCoffee ..really made my day .. |
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May 23 2010, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE(atukbaru @ May 23 2010, 02:50 PM) Basic economics will tell you that Windows will naturally be a 1000 times better than OSX the biggest reason y Windows is better than Mac OS X is that MS never keeps quiet abt vulnerabilities...1) Windows has access to more R&D funding due to the marketshare 2) Well known fact- Windows has more applications/softwares/ etc 3) Windows has more feedback from users due to more users, which allows the developers to make better applications and fix known flaws faster 4) If you have an issue with windows, a google search will probably fix it, coz there would be other users who experienced the exact situation, while with a Mac, the probability of that happening is way lower. The only good thing I've heard about Mac OSX is about the bundled software... I don't think it's such a big deal as I don't work with videos or photos. Added on May 23, 2010, 2:57 pmand another thing... Apple offers a good brand + quality.... not good enough to justify a high price? I wonder if Acer beats Apple's brand and quality.... Stop comparing Apples with Acer, noobies. Don't compare apples with oranges...lol yeah sure, Windows may ve more holes in the system than Mac OS X, but at least MS takes the effort to announce that there's such vulnerabilities around to warn the users, provide a temporary solution, and issue a fix asap... and wat does Apple do? when a vulnerability is found, they keep quiet about it, take their own sweet time to fix it, whiles users can only hope that it will get fixed, and quite a number never get fixed as well... Mac OS X more secure than Windows??? face it, we re not in the age of XP anymore... since Vista is out, hackers have been cursing and swearing at MS as UAC has suddenly made Windows hacking much more difficult, and by-passing it is no easy task... and Win7 has upped the bar with XP mode, since virtualized systems are even harder to hack... so, that the 2 Steves for u... for now i choose Ballmer over Jobs... This post has been edited by astria: May 23 2010, 04:04 PM |
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May 23 2010, 04:10 PM
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^^ True, that. Although I like OS X, one pet peeve I have about it is how secretive they are about security issues, and how long they take to fix them. It doesn't help that the open source software components they use tend to be outdated either, leaving bugs in them that have long since been patched upstream.
I seriously think Apple and their users in general tend to be too complacent about security, no thanks to the 'Macs can't get viruses mentality'. It's only a matter of time before something serious hits them. |
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May 23 2010, 04:10 PM
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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ May 23 2010, 03:50 PM) what problem do you face with you Acer? care to share? the problem is i only use Acer brand,how to pick other brand? LOL |
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May 23 2010, 04:12 PM
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QUOTE(siksa @ May 23 2010, 04:10 PM) the problem is i only use Acer brand,how to pick other brand? LOL lol, that's fair of u... |
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May 23 2010, 04:14 PM
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QUOTE(siksa @ May 23 2010, 04:10 PM) the problem is i only use Acer brand,how to pick other brand? LOL haha ^^...this is one funny post ..and its fair though because you only use Acer |
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May 23 2010, 04:18 PM
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QUOTE(siksa @ May 23 2010, 04:10 PM) the problem is i only use Acer brand,how to pick other brand? LOL >this is proven that Acer is the largest brand chosen by Malaysian.>reason why Acer vote is high. |
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May 23 2010, 07:07 PM
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I think there is an error in the title. Should be "worst", not "worse". By the way, back to the topic. I feel that the word "worst" is a little subjective. Worst in terms of what? Reliability? Price-specs-ratio? Merely price itself? I guess TS meant the word "worst" in terms of reliability. With regards to the debate between Windows and Mac OS X (or rather PCs vs Macs), here are my 2 cents. Seriously, people buy Macs for their OS and design, nothing else. In fact, if you haven't learnt how to use Windows or OS X, trust me, OS X is easier to learn. People who buy macs like the ease of usage, mainly for simplicity. In terms of reliability, they are not that reliable either ( iMac screen problems, macbook unibody cracks, macbook pros get pretty hot in tropical countries etc). Head on to macrumours forum or apple byte, and you'll see that there are quite a lot of people having defective units or problems after a period of usage. Service wise, I would say so so, not that great.
Some of you mentioned that Apple loves to keep quiet about Macs' problems, and secretly fix them. I have to agree with that. The recent Macbook white unibody is suffering the same fate as its predecessor, having the same crack problems as before. Although a lot of people are complaining about it, Apple still hasn't widely acknowledge the problem. Guess they are still figuring out what went wrong. For Windows vs Mac OS X, I would say OS X is still at its growing stage. The OS still can't utilize flash applications properly. Whenever Mac users load websites with flash or playing some flash games, their Macs tend to heat up pretty fast (I think it shoots up the CPU usage a lot). All the above are just my opinions and thoughts, and based on what I have read on the net. |
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May 23 2010, 11:43 PM
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QUOTE(dunkiedonuts @ May 23 2010, 07:07 PM) I think there is an error in the title. Should be "worst", not "worse". By the way, back to the topic. I feel that the word "worst" is a little subjective. Worst in terms of what? Reliability? Price-specs-ratio? Merely price itself? I guess TS meant the word "worst" in terms of reliability. With regards to the debate between Windows and Mac OS X (or rather PCs vs Macs), here are my 2 cents. Seriously, people buy Macs for their OS and design, nothing else. In fact, if you haven't learnt how to use Windows or OS X, trust me, OS X is easier to learn. People who buy macs like the ease of usage, mainly for simplicity. In terms of reliability, they are not that reliable either ( iMac screen problems, macbook unibody cracks, macbook pros get pretty hot in tropical countries etc). Head on to macrumours forum or apple byte, and you'll see that there are quite a lot of people having defective units or problems after a period of usage. Service wise, I would say so so, not that great. to real geek, yes. buy macbook for its OS but to a person who knows nothing about computer, it's all about design. i have friends who buy macbook pro because of its design and install only windows 7 on itSome of you mentioned that Apple loves to keep quiet about Macs' problems, and secretly fix them. I have to agree with that. The recent Macbook white unibody is suffering the same fate as its predecessor, having the same crack problems as before. Although a lot of people are complaining about it, Apple still hasn't widely acknowledge the problem. Guess they are still figuring out what went wrong. For Windows vs Mac OS X, I would say OS X is still at its growing stage. The OS still can't utilize flash applications properly. Whenever Mac users load websites with flash or playing some flash games, their Macs tend to heat up pretty fast (I think it shoots up the CPU usage a lot). All the above are just my opinions and thoughts, and based on what I have read on the net. |
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May 24 2010, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE(Fantasia @ May 23 2010, 11:43 PM) to real geek, yes. buy macbook for its OS but to a person who knows nothing about computer, it's all about design. i have friends who buy macbook pro because of its design and install only windows 7 on it OMG, they buy for design only Some bioinformatics programs can only run on Mac OS and I can't afford 1 |
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May 24 2010, 11:33 AM
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wow, Alat CEpat Rosak is leading the race.
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May 24 2010, 12:02 PM
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QUOTE(babyrabies @ May 24 2010, 11:33 AM) wow, Alat CEpat Rosak is leading the race. Acer is the highest vote may due to a lot of consumer. but the ration might be different.says example acer total population = 50,000 acer total faulty = 5,000 ratio = 10% HP pavillon total population = 10,000 HP Pavillon total faulty = 1,000 ratio = 10% you will notice acer has greater total faulty, but in term of ratio is not differ |
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May 24 2010, 12:12 PM
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QUOTE(xenon_aniki @ May 24 2010, 12:02 PM) Acer is the highest vote may due to a lot of consumer. but the ration might be different. agree, this thread also need to have other additional info (how many user use which brand? - on this forum)says example acer total population = 50,000 acer total faulty = 5,000 ratio = 10% HP pavillon total population = 10,000 HP Pavillon total faulty = 1,000 ratio = 10% you will notice acer has greater total faulty, but in term of ratio is not differ and from there we then can compare with this thread... which is the most worse laptop brand... but all in all, it all comes to the some laptop model, not laptop brand... it is just because of their laptop design, unable to handle the hardware inside... plus the laptop configuration (BIOS, heat management issue) ... and also how the user take care of their own laptop... |
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May 24 2010, 02:46 PM
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QUOTE(Fantasia @ May 23 2010, 11:43 PM) to real geek, yes. buy macbook for its OS but to a person who knows nothing about computer, it's all about design. i have friends who buy macbook pro because of its design and install only windows 7 on it same here... got a friend who used to own a MBP, boot camped to XP, and he used XP more than Mac OS X...when the MBP died on him (LCD cracked for no reason, Apple SG quoted him SG$600+ to repair), he switched to Sager instead, and as far as i can tell, he's happier with the Sager than with MBP... i used to ask him why he biught MBP... he said he thought Apple is good... which really makes me wonder, is there really sth wrong with Apple's QC??? |
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May 24 2010, 02:48 PM
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I think so, well my MBP13 cracks but heck, called Apple and they quoted me RM800 changing to panel
..then i let my brother use the MBP, so far is ok because he's not a gamer ..and Macbook Air also got problems iirc ...Added on May 24, 2010, 2:48 pmQC got problem is one thing, they hiding the problem is another thing This post has been edited by miahahaha: May 24 2010, 02:48 PM |
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May 24 2010, 03:28 PM
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QUOTE(astria @ May 24 2010, 02:46 PM) same here... got a friend who used to own a MBP, boot camped to XP, and he used XP more than Mac OS X... when the MBP died on him (LCD cracked for no reason, Apple SG quoted him SG$600+ to repair), he switched to Sager instead, and as far as i can tell, he's happier with the Sager than with MBP... i used to ask him why he biught MBP... he said he thought Apple is good... which really makes me wonder, is there really sth wrong with Apple's QC??? QUOTE(miahahaha @ May 24 2010, 02:48 PM) I think so, well my MBP13 cracks but heck, called Apple and they quoted me RM800 changing to panel LoL..for sure those fanboys will go to this thread & backfired us back....then i let my brother use the MBP, so far is ok because he's not a gamer ..and Macbook Air also got problems iirc ...Added on May 24, 2010, 2:48 pmQC got problem is one thing, they hiding the problem is another thing anyway.. i think the reason why apple didnt put the latest hardware on their MBP is just because they've might have to deal with the driver compatibility (for that hardware) ..so.. it takes times for them to add those feature to their MBP (to make sure that it compatible with their OS X).. |
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May 24 2010, 05:32 PM
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Actually, I'd be inclined to think that it's more about Apple's traditionally high profit margins rather than driver issues. It's no secret that Macs tend to be significantly more expensive than other non-Apple computers with similar specs. Drivers shouldn't be a problem as Apple only has a limited pool of hardware to test and support, and being a large player, they should have plenty of help from hardware vendors. The key thing here is that Apple provides a complete, (supposedly) seamless experience due to the tight control they keep over the hardware/software stack, and they charge a hefty premium on that. Other than their high profit margins, there isn't too much of a reason why they can't more powerful components.
QUOTE LoL..for sure those fanboys will go to this thread & backfired us back.. ^^ That |
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May 24 2010, 05:49 PM
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QUOTE(xenon_aniki @ May 24 2010, 12:02 PM) Acer is the highest vote may due to a lot of consumer. but the ration might be different. this.says example acer total population = 50,000 acer total faulty = 5,000 ratio = 10% HP pavillon total population = 10,000 HP Pavillon total faulty = 1,000 ratio = 10% you will notice acer has greater total faulty, but in term of ratio is not differ |
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May 24 2010, 11:13 PM
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Haiya don't care la.. Polls like this will never influence the buyer..
Still have to test and read reviews on the specific systems |
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May 25 2010, 03:47 AM
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I bought my Macbook Pro with the new 500gb solid state drive...
I tried searching everywhere else... I couldn't find any other notebook brand which offers the solid state drive... I think when you said Apple products are kinda not up to date, is untrue... Apple is among the only laptop provider which sold the solid-state-drive.. the latest and best hard drive around.. As for the ratio between the amount of users and amount of votes, I think Apple will turn out to be the worst Brand... coz most people voted for Apple because they hate the price and never bought it before.. I think we have a winner in this thread... Acer is the No.1 Brand in Malaysia, so it's fair to see them No.1 here... But Apple is No.3 here, and I think they sell little notebooks in Malaysia.. their monthly revenue is around RM5-10 million...(To open a online store in a country, Apple required RM5 million in sales monthly in that country...Malaysia just got their online store recently..). This post has been edited by atukbaru: May 25 2010, 03:48 AM |
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May 25 2010, 06:38 AM
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What brand of SSD is that?
The fastest in market imo is the Intel X25-M Gen2 SSD. But wow 500GB? killer size there man How much it cost you iinm 512GB was like RM4k+But still SSD provides killer speed too This post has been edited by Eugene91: May 25 2010, 06:41 AM |
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May 25 2010, 07:43 AM
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I love acer mang, played L4D2, Mass Effect, TF2, Portal, The Sims3, Doom3, Fear, Torchlight on it, i hope it can last for another 2 years ...................hahaha acer fanaticism
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May 25 2010, 09:25 AM
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QUOTE(atukbaru @ May 25 2010, 03:47 AM) I bought my Macbook Pro with the new 500gb solid state drive... And care to tell us how much did your Macbook + 512GB SSD cost you I tried searching everywhere else... I couldn't find any other notebook brand which offers the solid state drive... I think when you said Apple products are kinda not up to date, is untrue... Apple is among the only laptop provider which sold the solid-state-drive.. the latest and best hard drive around.. As for the ratio between the amount of users and amount of votes, I think Apple will turn out to be the worst Brand... coz most people voted for Apple because they hate the price and never bought it before.. I think we have a winner in this thread... Acer is the No.1 Brand in Malaysia, so it's fair to see them No.1 here... But Apple is No.3 here, and I think they sell little notebooks in Malaysia.. their monthly revenue is around RM5-10 million...(To open a online store in a country, Apple required RM5 million in sales monthly in that country...Malaysia just got their online store recently..). ...i bet its not that cheap no?? ...well, be happy with yours and we are happy with ours, care for a game of Battlefield : Bad Company 2 with your Macbook versus my BenQ S42 Added on May 25, 2010, 9:27 amWow, just checked @ Malaysia Apple Store MBP13, C2D 2.66GHz + 4GB RAM + 512GB SSD = RM9,473 ..nice price there This post has been edited by miahahaha: May 25 2010, 09:30 AM |
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May 25 2010, 09:28 AM
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QUOTE(miahahaha @ May 25 2010, 09:25 AM) And care to tell us how much did your Macbook + 512GB SSD cost you damn, u're mean tho.. ...i bet its not that cheap no?? ...well, be happy with yours and we are happy with ours, care for a game of Battlefield : Bad Company 2 with your Macbook with my BenQ S42 oh well, acer is leading all the time.. kinda agree with it.. the workmanship isnt that good.. maybe thats a cheap model, but still.. Added on May 25, 2010, 9:29 am QUOTE(miahahaha @ May 25 2010, 09:25 AM) And care to tell us how much did your Macbook + 512GB SSD cost you asus g60 can just easily beat it with better spec and lower pricing.....i bet its not that cheap no?? ...well, be happy with yours and we are happy with ours, care for a game of Battlefield : Bad Company 2 with your Macbook with my BenQ S42 Added on May 25, 2010, 9:27 amWow, just checked @ Malaysia Apple Store MBP13, C2D 2.66GHz + 4GB RAM + 512GB SSD = RM9,473 ..nice price there This post has been edited by evolution120: May 25 2010, 09:29 AM |
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May 25 2010, 09:48 AM
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asus sucks... the name doesn't cause head-turns..
My 15" i7 Macbook with 500gb ssd 8gb ram and a few extra blings cost me just below 15k... worth every cent of it.. I think I'm the only one who owns it in Malaysia...hehe ps- I called the Apple Online Store and was told there were only 2 units of this price range that got shipped in SEA this year... It required little bit of social engineering... heheh This post has been edited by atukbaru: May 25 2010, 09:51 AM |
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May 25 2010, 10:07 AM
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QUOTE(atukbaru @ May 25 2010, 09:48 AM) asus sucks... the name doesn't cause head-turns.. My 15" i7 Macbook with 500gb ssd 8gb ram and a few extra blings cost me just below 15k... worth every cent of it.. I think I'm the only one who owns it in Malaysia...hehe ps- I called the Apple Online Store and was told there were only 2 units of this price range that got shipped in SEA this year... It required little bit of social engineering... heheh ...good for you then, well if you are satisfy with it then ...And one thing, Social Engineering?? What's that ...and also 2 units shipped??Did we say Apple/Macbook sucks?? Never, just that in terms of price & performance, there are better options ...please don't write anything like "Asus sucks" etc etc...please do read about what Asus really is ....This post has been edited by monza84: May 25 2010, 10:10 AM |
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May 25 2010, 10:12 AM
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QUOTE(monza84 @ May 25 2010, 10:07 AM) ...good for you then, well if you are satisfy with it then ...And one thing, Social Engineering?? What's that ...and also 2 units shipped??Did we say Apple/Macbook sucks?? Never, just that in terms of price & performance, there are better options ...please don't write anything like "Asus sucks" etc etc...please do read about what Asus really is .... |
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May 25 2010, 10:14 AM
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haha ^^..i guess you are just some kid?? Didn't understand what my post really meant did you
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May 25 2010, 10:14 AM
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QUOTE(atukbaru @ May 25 2010, 09:48 AM) asus sucks... the name doesn't cause head-turns.. ultimate fail...My 15" i7 Macbook with 500gb ssd 8gb ram and a few extra blings cost me just below 15k... worth every cent of it.. I think I'm the only one who owns it in Malaysia...hehe ps- I called the Apple Online Store and was told there were only 2 units of this price range that got shipped in SEA this year... It required little bit of social engineering... heheh u dun need rm15k to get a MBP with i7... it sounds more to me u get cheated... i can get sth similar in terms of hardware with aprrox. rm3k... This post has been edited by astria: May 25 2010, 10:15 AM |
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May 25 2010, 10:16 AM
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QUOTE(astria @ May 25 2010, 10:14 AM) ultimate fail... dude, checkout the online store... they have many kinds of upgrades... You don't get a 500gb SSD with the standard specs... Learn to read before you type..noobhead.u dun need rm15k to get a MBP with i7... it sounds more to me u get cheated... i can get sth similar with aprrox. rm3k... |
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May 25 2010, 10:18 AM
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ok, so tell me what is it that ur rm15k MBP with i7 and 500GB SSD and 8GB RAM can do that i can't do with my sucky rm4k Asus with C2D and 320GB HDD and 4GB RAM...
oh wait, i can't make iCoffee with my Asus becuz it's not an iBoiler... pt noted... This post has been edited by astria: May 25 2010, 10:20 AM |
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May 25 2010, 10:21 AM
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haha ^^..we are dealing with 2" here...no use of argument then, start calling people names is not the kind of attitude that would actually led onto a good discussion...
back to topic, please name me one app that Macbook/OSX still don't have even though being on the market for decades?? If you can't answer this then you just This post has been edited by monza84: May 25 2010, 10:22 AM |
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May 25 2010, 10:27 AM
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LOL. applefan boy is back. with getting over-reacted.
dude, this thread is for discussion, not for flame lol... to those who want to knw about social engineering : The practice of tricking a user into giving, or giving access to, sensitive information. asus sucks? google yourself lol. |
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May 25 2010, 10:29 AM
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QUOTE(corallinkz @ May 25 2010, 10:27 AM) LOL. applefan boy is back. with getting over-reacted. oh, and i forgot to mention...dude, this thread is for discussion, not for flame lol... to those who want to knw about social engineering : The practice of tricking a user into giving, or giving access to, sensitive information. asus sucks? google yourself lol. he's juz contradicting himself... Asus sucks = MBP sucks cuz Asus is the one who makes MBP... |
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May 25 2010, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE(astria @ May 25 2010, 10:29 AM) oh, and i forgot to mention... I guess he don't even know this he's juz contradicting himself... Asus sucks = MBP sucks cuz Asus is the one who makes MBP... ... |
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May 25 2010, 10:39 AM
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rm4k Asus with C2D and 320GB HDD and 4GB RAM...???
i7 beats C2D anyday... Intel openly says that Solid State Drive beats any random 320GB HDD...lol.. SSD ROCKS!!! Fastest shit I've seen 8GB Ram kicks 4GB Ram out of the window...lol... obvious.. Hide that 4k Asus... C2D vs i7?.... HDD vs SSD?... check the facts man... I'm NOT an Apple Fan Boy... or anything like that.. OSX sucks big time.. I'm all the way Win 7..lol This post has been edited by atukbaru: May 25 2010, 10:40 AM |
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May 25 2010, 10:43 AM
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Oh my god, another SSD point
...oh my, this thread will be one of those thread  ...Bought MBP15 just to install Win 7 .... |
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May 25 2010, 10:50 AM
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QUOTE(monza84 @ May 25 2010, 10:43 AM) Oh my god, another SSD point What to do? I heard lots of good stories about OSX, but it turns out to be quite sucky... they couldn't even get the mouse right..lol.....oh my, this thread will be one of those thread ...Bought MBP15 just to install Win 7 ....But I was impressed with the Macbook in terms of design, performance and quality.. best thing that came out from the production line since the superdollars.. The manufacturer of Macbooks is almost irrelevant. Apple designs it, buys its parts, and decides how it should be made.. Asus, quanta and Foxconn are contracted to just put the parts together... no biggie... Read up on Foxconn... they manufacture lots of stuff.. see if the products do resemble one another in any way... not a single trace that's it's from Foxconn.... |
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May 25 2010, 10:53 AM
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LoL . . I didn't want to comment . . I really didn't but this is just too good
Don't let the entertainment stop mr.atukbaru * Gets that large popcorn and await eagerly * I really can't be proud if I got a MBP but uses Windows on it and knows for a fact that I could get other brands better engineered for Windows and for a fraction of the price. 500SSD . . thats a WOW . . the rest thats a . If I had the amount of money you have to spend . . I would go for the Sager NP8120 in a heartbeat This post has been edited by tek: May 25 2010, 10:56 AM |
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May 25 2010, 11:00 AM
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I'm not against Apple or anything, and I'm even considering buying a 13" MBP myself. Still, I see no reason to trash Asus like that just because it's non-Apple. The specs aren't the same, so you're comparing apples to oranges.
That said, RM15k for those specs is outrageous. Apple has a habit of murdering users on the price of BTO upgrades, and I'm sure you could have just bought the stock machine and upgraded it for a few k less aftermarket. The HDD and RAM are considered user-serviceable, so it won't void your warranty/Apple Care. |
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May 25 2010, 11:12 AM
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I think I will just need to continue my shenanigans for a few hours and Apple will take the top spot on this vote... Apple is already catching up on HP for the No.2 spot..
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May 25 2010, 11:26 AM
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QUOTE(atukbaru @ May 25 2010, 10:50 AM) What to do? I heard lots of good stories about OSX, but it turns out to be quite sucky... they couldn't even get the mouse right..lol.. be a fanboy is not wrong, in fact, be a fanboy of APPLE is really something to proud of, i must say, APPLE is really a good companyBut I was impressed with the Macbook in terms of design, performance and quality.. best thing that came out from the production line since the superdollars.. The manufacturer of Macbooks is almost irrelevant. Apple designs it, buys its parts, and decides how it should be made.. Asus, quanta and Foxconn are contracted to just put the parts together... no biggie... Read up on Foxconn... they manufacture lots of stuff.. see if the products do resemble one another in any way... not a single trace that's it's from Foxconn.... after all, a company that have massive loyalty, godo profit, taking care of environment and even, taking care of ethics of the users, superb marketing i cant say more about an IT company? mobile technology company tat is clearly, we wont be able to complaint about APPLE, as a company, to customer, shareholders, and environment, it has done its part, too well. i mean it every word. but beware, i am not praising its product, at least, hardware. Apple, as St. Steve said, is the biggest mobile device company in the world, at CES 2010. however, focus on the word, device. does its hardware any exotic? well, iphone, ipad, Mac book nice desigh, but the spec? never a fighting point. so what makes them so successful? easy answer SOFTWARE undoubtedly, iphone os and mac os provide, lighting fast reaction, given the spec of hardware. its ease of use( i mean, after the learning curve), especially in conjunction with internet access to cloud computing, is unmatched. where else to find another iphone store, and soon to be hilarious ipad store with so many dedicated developers? to enjoy the ULTIMATE benefit of the service, Mac os and iphone os or wat ever platform APPLE provides, is a must. it is the software, naming the Platform apple developed that brings this company this successful. i trust many of the old guys know why APPLE FAIL in late 1980- early 1990. it went down together with IBM, for why? they forgot what the customers want, and their products are outdated. so we see hp, dell, and so on. ever since, APPLE take a step back and start to develop its now formidable platform, Mac OSX. So, as history told us, no, APPLE is not a good company when comes with improving its product specs. So, back to the question, u said, 1."The manufacturer of Macbooks is almost irrelevant" i say, correct, they dont give a damn about the spec. 2.APPLE design the device? yes, only the look the product spec is negligible, since nothing fancy there. APPLE always use, at best, slightly outdated hardware for its product. After all, Mac Os does not need powerful machine to run. 3."Asus, quanta and Foxconn are contracted to just put the parts together... no biggie..." sorry, these company has nothing related to APPLE, their project are from Intel, Nvidia, or so on...At best, u can say motorola, they did have some contact with apple to manufacture hardware So, i must conclude, tat you buy MBP, for solely the design, and at best, its ability to show off how expensive an item is, how premium the brand of product u bought. in plain word, u bought a LV, yet surely, Dior can put out something like tat, but cannot tag the same price. Even Asus Lamborghini cannot tag such a price. Wonder why? Asus is in Hardware business, it provide the best of its product with the reasonable price as the company seems fit, as what APPLE does. As for install win 7 in a MBP well, i must say, sorry to be a bit rude... do u know wat will u end up if u tell the APPLE community about this? do u know wat will u end up if u tell this to St. Steve? "dont buy my product anymore" Steve Jobs Sent from my Iphone Blasphemy. in the end, u ended up alone. no APPLE royal fanboy, i mean Royal, will back u up. ur showing off can only to those who knows less. yet they will eventually learned the truth, after all, if they do not they too, dont give a damn. This post has been edited by wanttobuylaptop: May 25 2010, 11:54 AM |
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May 25 2010, 11:45 AM
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QUOTE(atukbaru @ May 25 2010, 09:48 AM) asus sucks... the name doesn't cause head-turns.. You must be pretty good at this "social engineering" thing, u easily convinced the Apple guy to disclose a PNC information My 15" i7 Macbook with 500gb ssd 8gb ram and a few extra blings cost me just below 15k... worth every cent of it.. I think I'm the only one who owns it in Malaysia...hehe ps- I called the Apple Online Store and was told there were only 2 units of this price range that got shipped in SEA this year... It required little bit of social engineering... heheh What is there to brag about an expensive laptop? You're just a show off kid, there's plenty of members here who owns AW,Sager,Clevo & ASUS ROG(which is more premium than a Macbook) but they never brag about it. U call an i7, 500gb SSD & 8gb of ram a bling? that's ridiculous. I bet u just find the most expensive stuff u can get to show off that ur bloody rich. And a Macbook with windows? I got nothing against Apple or anything, but your attitude towards this matter is really absurd. In the end, it's your money anyway, good luck to you with your Macbook, RM15K well spent. Feed this troll some more.... |
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May 25 2010, 12:17 PM
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QUOTE(MIVECburuk @ May 25 2010, 11:45 AM) You must be pretty good at this "social engineering" thing, u easily convinced the Apple guy to disclose a PNC information disclosing how many unit sold is not really P&C la...disclosing Who actually bought is P&C What is there to brag about an expensive laptop? You're just a show off kid, there's plenty of members here who owns AW,Sager,Clevo & ASUS ROG(which is more premium than a Macbook) but they never brag about it. U call an i7, 500gb SSD & 8gb of ram a bling? that's ridiculous. I bet u just find the most expensive stuff u can get to show off that ur bloody rich. And a Macbook with windows? I got nothing against Apple or anything, but your attitude towards this matter is really absurd. In the end, it's your money anyway, good luck to you with your Macbook, RM15K well spent. Feed this troll some more....so, even the social marketing is not something tat can be brag... |
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May 25 2010, 12:27 PM
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acer? it has to be HP followed by Sony
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May 25 2010, 12:44 PM
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QUOTE(atukbaru @ May 25 2010, 03:47 AM) I bought my Macbook Pro with the new 500gb solid state drive... dell offer SSD. I tried searching everywhere else... I couldn't find any other notebook brand which offers the solid state drive... I think when you said Apple products are kinda not up to date, is untrue... Apple is among the only laptop provider which sold the solid-state-drive.. the latest and best hard drive around.. As for the ratio between the amount of users and amount of votes, I think Apple will turn out to be the worst Brand... coz most people voted for Apple because they hate the price and never bought it before.. I think we have a winner in this thread... Acer is the No.1 Brand in Malaysia, so it's fair to see them No.1 here... But Apple is No.3 here, and I think they sell little notebooks in Malaysia.. their monthly revenue is around RM5-10 million...(To open a online store in a country, Apple required RM5 million in sales monthly in that country...Malaysia just got their online store recently..). apple just up-to-date. imagine how long it takes to refresh to the latest i7,i5. apple hardware is limited. however mac os x is awesome!!!! other than os x, macbook pro just a piece of rubbish IMO (dont tell me unibody design, aluminium bla bla bla this kind of accessories things) |
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May 25 2010, 12:46 PM
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however buys apple not for the mac OSX has got to be a spoiled idiot or a mat rempit idiot
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May 25 2010, 12:47 PM
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QUOTE(Fizzy-Fiz @ May 25 2010, 12:46 PM) whoever buys apple not for the mac OSX has got to be a spoiled idiot or a mat rempit idiot Corrected |
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May 25 2010, 12:54 PM
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uh-oh
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May 25 2010, 12:56 PM
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there are thousands of people all over the world who are using Windows on Macs.. not a big deal...Macbooks are way more popular overseas than in Malaysia... Macbooks were quite common in my university in London
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May 25 2010, 12:57 PM
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QUOTE(atukbaru @ May 25 2010, 10:39 AM) rm4k Asus with C2D and 320GB HDD and 4GB RAM...??? i7 beats C2D anyday??? read the facts...i7 beats C2D anyday... Intel openly says that Solid State Drive beats any random 320GB HDD...lol.. SSD ROCKS!!! Fastest shit I've seen 8GB Ram kicks 4GB Ram out of the window...lol... obvious.. Hide that 4k Asus... C2D vs i7?.... HDD vs SSD?... check the facts man... I'm NOT an Apple Fan Boy... or anything like that.. OSX sucks big time.. I'm all the way Win 7..lol Core i is merely 10% faster than Core 2 clock for clock.... the main thing abt Core i is not abt performance... the architecture pretty much stays the same... the biggest difference is juz to ditch FSB and integrate the memory controller into the CPU (which AMD has done so for close to 1 decade)... SSD fast? no doubt... but tell me, even if i load Windows 30sec faster, wat can i do with that extra 30sec??? for the record my supposedly slow netbook already can boot up and be ready to use in 30sec, and if i am really that particular abt boot time, 20sec is piece of cake... 8GB RAM??? i ve used a desktop with 16GB RAM before, but no it's not that significantly faster than my laptop with 4GB, unless i am dealing with works like Photoshop... it's still pts back to the same qn, my laptop is made by Asus, so is MBP, but i dun ve an iBoiler to enjoy iCoffee on the go... this juz shows that there's some problem with Apple's design... dun blame Asus for that, they merely manufacture the MBP as according to the requirement of Apple... if Apple is fine with the end product, Asus juz mass produce according to that... any problems??? blame Apple... Asus has done their job right with MBP, it's Apple's fault who overlooked the problem with heat... Dell has already made the mistake, and obviously Apple dun like to learn as well... |
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May 25 2010, 12:58 PM
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QUOTE(atukbaru @ May 25 2010, 12:56 PM) there are thousands of people all over the world who are using Windows on Macs.. not a big deal...Macbooks are way more popular overseas than in Malaysia... Macbooks were quite common in my university in London it happens in malaysia as well who knows nothing about computer ^^Added on May 25, 2010, 12:59 pm QUOTE(Fantasia @ May 25 2010, 12:58 PM) it happens in malaysia as well who knows nothing about computer ^^ whos to say RM4k only can get C2D?? RM3.8k already enough to get quad core i7 my friendThis post has been edited by Fantasia: May 25 2010, 12:59 PM |
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May 25 2010, 01:00 PM
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QUOTE(atukbaru @ May 25 2010, 12:56 PM) there are thousands of people all over the world who are using Windows on Macs.. not a big deal...Macbooks are way more popular overseas than in Malaysia... Macbooks were quite common in my university in London yeah i will give u to that, it's a fact in Australia as well...the main difference, however, is that most ppl buy Macbook but they use Mac OS X most of the time... i can't help but to notice that Asians prefer to use Windows and Windows only on their Macbook... |
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May 25 2010, 01:48 PM
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QUOTE(atukbaru @ May 25 2010, 12:56 PM) there are thousands of people all over the world who are using Windows on Macs.. not a big deal...Macbooks are way more popular overseas than in Malaysia... Macbooks were quite common in my university in London so, tat's all?just one liner to mention is not big deal? and London, LMAO so APPLE is now a pro-UK company? i BLAST you with ever glowing community of APPLE fans, HQed in US u come out with London, a university? i challenge you to post this on APPLE US Fan site not that big of a deal to u i guess "thousands of people all over the world who are using Windows on Macs." again i Challenge your statement, come out with figures and facts, prove it that it is not just simple statement from ur unintelligible mouth |
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May 25 2010, 02:01 PM
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QUOTE(atukbaru @ May 25 2010, 12:56 PM) there are thousands of people all over the world who are using Windows on Macs.. not a big deal...Macbooks are way more popular overseas than in Malaysia... Macbooks were quite common in my university in London Well, that's true, there's no doubt that Macbook is famous (well maybe) in your U in London...but then again, only based on London, do you know worldwide window-based laptop are way ahead of Macbook...You think based on the poll, people voted Apple (Macbook) because of its price, please do read again few posts back and see why we listed Macbook as one of the worst laptop for 2010...Using Window in Macbook is just , not that i denied that everyone have their own preferences when comes to what they want to use and all but then again, its your choice....see Acer, No 1 in worst laptop, do you think you know why? Large community of users so the percentage of defective units is way larger, do you see any of Acer users go in this thread and defend their precious Acer ..we all know about Macbook and HEAT, don't go and blame Asus because they use Asus Mobo, its the design ...Go to Japan and see if Macbook is popular there or not? South Korea/USA and more ...Provide us with proofs & facts so that we can silent ourselves from talking back to you...just a simple comment ' famous in my U in London' is mere fiction This post has been edited by miahahaha: May 25 2010, 02:03 PM |
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May 25 2010, 02:23 PM
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walao...now i notice...
benQ got more votes than Asus.... pity BenQ.. |
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May 25 2010, 02:30 PM
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@want
Reasonable as BenQ laptop are kind HOT ..and also the problem with NV8M Series .. |
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May 25 2010, 02:32 PM
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hot is true lo...
NV8m every brand also got... not a brand problem... but hot, yea, is true... on this note...Asus wins hand down but then...benQ got too less title la... only s42 and s57 got heat problem... but this only is already like all benQ had... N.B actually asus should consider make refrigerator or air-con... or car de air-con system.. This post has been edited by wanttobuylaptop: May 25 2010, 02:34 PM |
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May 25 2010, 02:41 PM
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Well, there were also the older model like R47/S33w and all but not that famous such as S42/57 because both are labeled under performance laptop
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May 25 2010, 02:55 PM
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R/S should not have heat problems arent they?
they did not come with high frequency processor or dedicated GPU? |
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May 25 2010, 02:58 PM
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twinhead my company notebook so fast heat and power adapter blow easily after on for long time period...
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May 25 2010, 03:01 PM
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QUOTE(wanttobuylaptop @ May 25 2010, 02:55 PM) R/S should not have heat problems arent they? iirc, R47 is quite hot even though running with Integrated, because of the failed cooling design they did not come with high frequency processor or dedicated GPU? |
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May 25 2010, 03:03 PM
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QUOTE(miahahaha @ May 25 2010, 03:01 PM) iirc, R47 is quite hot even though running with Integrated, because of the failed cooling design xtra cooling fan cant do the job ? |
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May 25 2010, 03:09 PM
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QUOTE(yeezai @ May 25 2010, 03:03 PM) xtra cooling fan cant do the job ? should be okbut since the poll consider laptop only of cos this flaw we cannot ignore |
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May 25 2010, 03:10 PM
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QUOTE(yeezai @ May 25 2010, 03:03 PM) xtra cooling fan cant do the job ? Cooling fan should do the job, but then again...having a cool laptop without any cooler would be nice right ...Added on May 25, 2010, 3:11 pmJust like BenQ S42, want battery life and cool (Intel GMA)...want to game (9600M GT).. This post has been edited by miahahaha: May 25 2010, 03:11 PM |
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May 25 2010, 03:12 PM
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QUOTE(miahahaha @ May 25 2010, 03:10 PM) Cooling fan should do the job, but then again...having a cool laptop without any cooler would be nice right Yo bro, what are the light and cool (in terms of heat) notebooks out there? Seldom heard of them hmmmm... I'm interested hehehe ^____^...Added on May 25, 2010, 3:11 pmJust like BenQ S42, want battery life and cool (Intel GMA)...want to game (9600M GT).. |
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May 25 2010, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ May 25 2010, 03:12 PM) Yo bro, what are the light and cool (in terms of heat) notebooks out there? Seldom heard of them hmmmm... I'm interested hehehe ^____^ Realistically, there is none when it is equipped with a Dedicated GPU (well, Sager/Asus ROG/Clevo/AW got good cooling design)...want something light and cool, then a Integrated GPU with some cool design would do the job ..like Acer TimelineX 4820T This post has been edited by miahahaha: May 25 2010, 03:20 PM |
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May 25 2010, 03:18 PM
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QUOTE(miahahaha @ May 25 2010, 03:16 PM) Realistically, there is no when it is equipped with a Dedicated GPU (well, Sager/Asus ROG/Clevo/AW got good cooling design)...want something light and cool, then a Integrated GPU with some cool design would do the job Oh I see, thank you very much~ The Acer is quite tempting keke ..like Acer TimelineX 4820T Can't wait for the new ULV core i processors ^____^ |
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May 25 2010, 06:54 PM
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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ May 25 2010, 03:18 PM) Oh I see, thank you very much~ The Acer is quite tempting keke today i juz log to lowyat web site and read the new which now Intel launch i3, i5 and i7 ULV processors, and now current this procesor will be installed in Acer, Benq, Asus and 1 more brand, forgot. so maybe these brands have new product gonna launch later Can't wait for the new ULV core i processors ^____^ |
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May 25 2010, 06:59 PM
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QUOTE(alex890628 @ May 25 2010, 06:54 PM) today i juz log to lowyat web site and read the new which now Intel launch i3, i5 and i7 ULV processors, and now current this procesor will be installed in Acer, Benq, Asus and 1 more brand, forgot. so maybe these brands have new product gonna launch later fujitsu has the i7 ULV also but very expensive the model is P770 |
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May 25 2010, 07:44 PM
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Seriously? Macbook better performance on WINDOWS!? atukbaru is gotta be kidding me for that price and with using win7 on it?! and you say MacOSX sucks? what's wrong with you?
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May 25 2010, 07:46 PM
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QUOTE(Eugene91 @ May 25 2010, 07:44 PM) Seriously? Macbook better performance on WINDOWS!? atukbaru is gotta be kidding me for that price and with using win7 on it?! and you say MacOSX sucks? what's wrong with you? maybe some wires in his brain get messed up... when talk about Mac OS X, the 1st time straight away come into my mind is smooth |
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May 25 2010, 08:10 PM
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damn Mac OSX is like the coolest OS man.. When he said that i almost fell off my chair !
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May 25 2010, 08:13 PM
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I'm surprised that Dell got so low votes, probably because of their good warranty or good quality control or what? I've heard many complaints about Sony Vaio and yet it got not that many votes here. Hmm... food for thought....
Also, can we stop this silly debate about Win vs Mac and learn to agree to disagree. The way I see it, both systems have their pros and cons and are geared towards different set of users. So, neither are better than the other and comparing both are like comparing apples and oranges.  |
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May 25 2010, 08:22 PM
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QUOTE(TealTurino @ May 25 2010, 08:13 PM) I'm surprised that Dell got so low votes, probably because of their good warranty or good quality control or what? I've heard many complaints about Sony Vaio and yet it got not that many votes here. Hmm... food for thought.... Well, we already acknowledge this Also, can we stop this silly debate about Win vs Mac and learn to agree to disagree. The way I see it, both systems have their pros and cons and are geared towards different set of users. So, neither are better than the other and comparing both are like comparing apples and oranges. ..and we also trying to stop the debate, but got to make some sense for those who are really ignorant ..i use Window for work, OSX for my multimedia apps and Linux ..As for Sony VAIO, less user then less vote, simple ..you heard of many complaint but then again, how many if you compared them to Acer & HP ...reason why Dell is low, best aftersales service you can get though their laptop are in a level of OK .. |
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May 25 2010, 09:31 PM
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dell build quality dun matter at all,coz their after sales service is top notch....just got my 1640 and the optical drive KO,but got replaced almost immeadiately, so yeah......
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May 26 2010, 12:37 AM
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Acer is really improving, but dunno why I vote Acer though.
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May 26 2010, 02:59 AM
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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ May 26 2010, 12:37 AM) Acer is really improving, but dunno why I vote Acer though. thank you for misleading this poll.don't blame me. your statement pointed at yourself. |
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May 26 2010, 06:00 AM
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QUOTE(Eugene91 @ May 25 2010, 08:10 PM) damn Mac OSX is like the coolest OS man.. When he said that i almost fell off my chair ! Can you please tell me what the OSX can do but WIndows can't?(stupid question-some idiots like to ask this)In what ways are Macs performing better than Windows?(please don't talk about the bundled software) As for stability and performance, I think Win 7 is stable enough, and I have not seen my comp hang or the BSOD since Vista. I don't wish to argue on this, I'm truthfully asking, as if OSX is really good, I might need to give it another try. |
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May 26 2010, 06:31 AM
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QUOTE(atukbaru @ May 26 2010, 06:00 AM) Can you please tell me what the OSX can do but WIndows can't?(stupid question-some idiots like to ask this) Yes, some lame question which people would ask over and over again, and i ask again why would people ask that question if the answer is pretty obvious In what ways are Macs performing better than Windows?(please don't talk about the bundled software) As for stability and performance, I think Win 7 is stable enough, and I have not seen my comp hang or the BSOD since Vista. I don't wish to argue on this, I'm truthfully asking, as if OSX is really good, I might need to give it another try. ...well, we are not against OSX or what, just a simple fact :Why buy Macbook if you are not going to use OSX, got better options that can replace Macbook in terms of quality & price.... We are just amazed on how you would spend RM15k on Macbook only to dissed OSX (which is why Macbook exist in the first place) and permanently using Window in it ...Macbook is built for OSX and its the only machine that can run OSX perfectly...Well, if you are happy with your investment in Macbook then so be it...no need to argue anymore as we are not arguing about OS here, more on laptop itself ...We are just stating that there are much more choices (with your budget) that can replace Macbook in terms of performance/price/quality/services ...learn to accept others compliments as we already accepted yours...Added on May 26, 2010, 6:32 amAs for your last sentence, once you got the hang of OSX, like others would said "You'll never turn back"...i use OSX/Window/Linux perfectly fine This post has been edited by miahahaha: May 26 2010, 06:32 AM |
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May 26 2010, 07:55 AM
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rm15k...
i remember i read that AW m17x with Core i7 920XM and HD5870 CF is approx. rm13k... not sure if it's using Seagate's new SSHD though... |
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May 26 2010, 08:31 AM
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QUOTE(astria @ May 26 2010, 07:55 AM) rm15k... LoL Macbook with i7-720QM with GT320m is it? vs i7-920XM with HD5870 CrossFireX wahahaha! on Windows? Definitely M17x pawns it like 4x =P i remember i read that AW m17x with Core i7 920XM and HD5870 CF is approx. rm13k... not sure if it's using Seagate's new SSHD though... oh wait even my crippled 9600m gt ddr2 is = gt320m ddr3 LOL! based on 3dmark06  but if the macbook is equipped with GT330m den my 9600m gt lose This post has been edited by Eugene91: May 26 2010, 08:37 AM |
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May 26 2010, 09:21 AM
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wow,got eugene and fantasia in also~
seriously? is 9600m gt tat good? *start feeling good about myself omg, there IS ppl wasted RM15k for gt320m... |
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May 26 2010, 10:17 AM
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QUOTE(wanttobuylaptop @ May 26 2010, 09:21 AM) omg, there IS ppl wasted RM15k for gt320m... yes there is coz RM15k is just 'loose change' for some. |
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May 26 2010, 10:51 AM
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QUOTE(Eugene91 @ May 26 2010, 08:31 AM) LoL Macbook with i7-720QM with GT320m is it? vs i7-920XM with HD5870 CrossFireX wahahaha! on Windows? Definitely M17x pawns it like 4x =P macbook pro 15 and 17" use G330Moh wait even my crippled 9600m gt ddr2 is = gt320m ddr3 LOL! based on 3dmark06 but if the macbook is equipped with GT330m den my 9600m gt lose |
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May 26 2010, 01:07 PM
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QUOTE(Eugene91 @ May 26 2010, 08:31 AM) LoL Macbook with i7-720QM with GT320m is it? vs i7-920XM with HD5870 CrossFireX wahahaha! on Windows? Definitely M17x pawns it like 4x =P oh wait even my crippled 9600m gt ddr2 is = gt320m ddr3 LOL! based on 3dmark06 but if the macbook is equipped with GT330m den my 9600m gt lose don't insult them too hard. kesian wor~ » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by Mr.Docter: May 26 2010, 01:29 PM |
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May 26 2010, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ May 26 2010, 01:07 PM) don't insult them too hard. kesian wor~ » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « is as plain a fact as the sun rises east |
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May 26 2010, 03:50 PM
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hey, it aint fair to diss apple, u should compare pc to pc and apple to well....
a bag of fertilizers. |
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May 26 2010, 03:53 PM
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so apple dun use the same hardware as PC???
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May 26 2010, 03:54 PM
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QUOTE(astria @ May 26 2010, 03:53 PM) so apple dun use the same hardware as PC??? no they dontapples are organic |
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May 26 2010, 03:56 PM
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oh yeah, i juz remembered...
they use Mac hardware... |
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May 26 2010, 03:59 PM
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noobs, please stop making lame jokes.
Apple here is a electronic brand- refer to apple.com No FAIL jokes please. |
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May 26 2010, 04:02 PM
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QUOTE it (Mac) "doesn't get PC viruses" (in most cases technically true, rather it gets Mac viruses) i lol-ed... http://www.dailytech.com/Apple+Kills+Get+a...rticle18463.htm Added on May 26, 2010, 4:06 pmand i lol-ed to the pt of ROFL after reading Apple's claim... QUOTE BETTER HARDWARE -Built with strong, beautiful, recyclable materials -Innovative features like wireless keyboard/mouse and built-in webcam -Superior performance from "blazing fast" processors, "high performance" graphics, and "high speed" memory BETTER SOFTWARE -Comes with email, calendar, and address book applications -Search inside documents! -iTunes, iSight, iPhoto, iMovie, and GarageBand are pre-installed BETTER OS -If you switch from Windows XP to Windows 7, you'll have to re-learn everything anyway, so why not learn to use OSX Snow Leopard instead? -Our 64-bit processes run super fast on a 64-bit CPU -Download updates automatically, install with a click, "so you’re not tasked with tracking down updates yourself and installing all of them one by one" -Features tools to enhance accessibility for the seeing- or hearing-impaired. "To get the same functionality on a PC, you need to purchase third-party software." BETTER SUPPORT -Pay us $99 and we'll transfer all your personal files from your old computer IT'S COMPATIBLE -Supports .doc, .pdf, .ppt, .xls, .wmv, .mp3, .jpg, .txt, and .avi files! -"You can access your email and favorite websites with no problem." -Automatically recognizes available wireless networks, remembers previously used ones and will connect to them whenever you're in range yes Apple, u definitely made my day with ur joke... http://www.apple.com/why-mac/ This post has been edited by astria: May 26 2010, 04:07 PM |
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May 26 2010, 04:12 PM
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the story about no viruses for mac is nothing to shout about.. Apple should be worried about that coz if no one wants to rob you, it means you're worth nothing...
3% OS share... hackers got better stuff to do... |
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May 26 2010, 04:18 PM
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so back to the qn, wat makes Mac hardware great??? or, perhaps in another way...
wat makes a Mac great? disregarding the claims made by Apple... wat is it that u die die must use a Mac to run, and that u can't run that on a PC? or even simpler, wat makes a Mac different from a PC? |
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May 26 2010, 04:21 PM
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QUOTE(astria @ May 26 2010, 04:18 PM) so back to the qn, wat makes Mac hardware great??? or, perhaps in another way... Go down to lowyat or machines or any f***ing Mac storewat makes a Mac great? disregarding the claims made by Apple... wat is it that u die die must use a Mac to run, and that u can't run that on a PC? or even simpler, wat makes a Mac different from a PC? go try the f***ing Mac... then decide urself Stop asking this stupid question.. what makes mac different.. what can Mac do? ... WHy is Mac so special? It's so f***ing cliched.. getting annoying.. Malaysian mentality.. rubbish question |
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May 26 2010, 04:22 PM
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QUOTE(atukbaru @ May 26 2010, 05:21 PM) Go down to lowyat or machines or any f***ing Mac store You can't even answer his question. What a noob go try the f***ing Mac... then decide urself Stop asking this stupid question.. what makes mac different.. what can Mac do? ... WHy is Mac so special? It's so f***ing cliched.. getting annoying.. Malaysian mentality.. rubbish question This post has been edited by Leo the Lion: May 26 2010, 04:22 PM |
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May 26 2010, 04:31 PM
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ROFLOPTER!
hey hey atukbaru, just chill laa. others pun stop poking them la. kesian liao~... /thanks for sharing, Astria! |
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May 26 2010, 04:35 PM
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QUOTE(atukbaru @ May 26 2010, 04:21 PM) Go down to lowyat or machines or any f***ing Mac store lol..before making any assumption better get your fact on the right track....your reply that i quoted above, astria is NOT MALAYSIAN go try the f***ing Mac... then decide urself Stop asking this stupid question.. what makes mac different.. what can Mac do? ... WHy is Mac so special? It's so f***ing cliched.. getting annoying.. Malaysian mentality.. rubbish question Telling us making lame jokes on Apple (Macbook)...answer our question with facts, then we'll shut our mouth ...and don't use such vulgar words, we don't even use them ...I hope you don't tell me to go f***ing try the Macbook myself as i already stated earlier what i owned and what i don't This post has been edited by miahahaha: May 26 2010, 04:36 PM |
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May 26 2010, 04:57 PM
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nah, doesn't matter where i am form, he would juz say "f***ing (insert country here)"
already immune to that, Australians love to say that (f***ing Asians), or pt mid fingers, or show u his butt... (oh wait, did i mention only kids do that?) been to army, wat kind of vulgarity i never hear??? anyway, back to qn... u re a Mac user, and u can't tell me y a Mac is better than a PC??? who's the ultimate fail here? Let me Google that for you: http://tinyurl.com/2wd4vpt This post has been edited by astria: May 26 2010, 04:58 PM |
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May 26 2010, 05:27 PM
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i don get wad the points arguing here. u all react like kids
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May 26 2010, 05:35 PM
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QUOTE(RyanHo @ May 26 2010, 05:27 PM) i don get wad the points arguing here. u all react like kids nah, juz that someone feels that we ve insulted his rm15k Mac, nothing more... |
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May 26 2010, 05:36 PM
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QUOTE(RyanHo @ May 26 2010, 05:27 PM) i don get wad the points arguing here. u all react like kids yeah. better be careful or Mod will come and /kolos this poll... |
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May 26 2010, 05:36 PM
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Well, sometimes acting like kids do for fun also
...well, we just stating points & facts...other than that its just for the lulz |
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May 26 2010, 05:42 PM
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QUOTE(miahahaha @ May 26 2010, 05:36 PM) Well, sometimes acting like kids do for fun also hmm expressing points and facts either in serious statement or lulz-statement (well someone also label this as retarded-one-line-kopitiam-statement) is consider acceptable too right?...well, we just stating points & facts...other than that its just for the lulz as long as its have point underneath it, it should be acceptable. if ones brain can interpret the hidden meaning, its not our problem right? no? |
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May 26 2010, 05:44 PM
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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ May 26 2010, 05:42 PM) hmm expressing points and facts either in serious statement or lulz-statement (well someone also label this as retarded-one-line-kopitiam-statement) is consider acceptable too right? Yup, some need to see there's always a hidden meaning in every posts while some are just direct to the point as long as its have point underneath it, it should be acceptable. if ones brain can interpret the hidden meaning, its not our problem right? no? ..and sure, not our problem if they didn't understand what are we posting ..and then we can do some |
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May 26 2010, 05:49 PM
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More lame facts for ya....Whats the difference between a macbook pro and a bag of fertilizer? Answer... one comes with an aluminium case. Sue me!
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May 26 2010, 05:55 PM
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QUOTE(babyrabies @ May 26 2010, 05:49 PM) More lame facts for ya....Whats the difference between a macbook pro and a bag of fertilizer? Answer... one comes with an aluminium case. Sue me! YOU FAIL... NOOBHEAD...Who the fcuk want to sue a noobhead? You can't even string a proper sentence.... Added on May 26, 2010, 5:57 pm QUOTE(astria @ May 26 2010, 04:57 PM) nah, doesn't matter where i am form, he would juz say "f***ing (insert country here)" sell all the PCs you have and signup for an English class.already immune to that, Australians love to say that (f***ing Asians), or pt mid fingers, or show u his butt... (oh wait, did i mention only kids do that?) been to army, wat kind of vulgarity i never hear??? anyway, back to qn... u re a Mac user, and u can't tell me y a Mac is better than a PC??? who's the ultimate fail here? Let me Google that for you: http://tinyurl.com/2wd4vpt This post has been edited by atukbaru: May 26 2010, 05:57 PM |
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May 26 2010, 06:02 PM
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QUOTE(atukbaru @ May 26 2010, 05:55 PM) YOU FAIL... NOOBHEAD... Looks like i pissed off a dung bettle from stirring up his turf. I shall lay my hands no more on those organic fertilizers. Your home is safe.Who the fcuk want to sue a noobhead? You can't even string a proper sentence.... This post has been edited by babyrabies: May 26 2010, 06:04 PM |
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May 26 2010, 06:08 PM
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QUOTE(babyrabies @ May 26 2010, 06:02 PM) Looks like i pissed off a dung bettle from stirring up his turf. I shall lay my hands no more on those organic fertilizers. Your home is safe. i lol'd n1 bro. |
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May 26 2010, 06:09 PM
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rm15k.. my tuition fees.. goes to a MBP.. ouch.. which london school are you from bro??
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May 26 2010, 06:10 PM
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your.. tuition fees for how long?
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May 26 2010, 06:12 PM
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No use arguing anymore...he's not even answering our question properly instead making excuses such as go to English class etc etc
...let this be his home, time for us to leave him be..so many facts that we give but so little throw back |
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May 26 2010, 06:15 PM
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lemme think.. my whole foundation course?? 3 sem..
and also.. 5 sets of G51vx. lolz. |
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May 26 2010, 06:17 PM
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QUOTE(Batusai @ May 26 2010, 06:15 PM) lemme think.. my whole foundation course?? 3 sem.. cmon, dont mention g51 over here.. later mac vs asus agian.. and also.. 5 sets of G51vx. lolz. |
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May 26 2010, 06:19 PM
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doubt he knows what G51vx is la.. and maybe how much GTX260M pawn GT320M..
maybe plus in a Q9000. |
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May 26 2010, 06:19 PM
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Atuk jgn marah le, i love Macs, in fact i work on 1 everyday... I my love for Mac is undying but thrill of pissing off an overzealous Mac fanatic is priceless. Just too bad u take Mac like it's your dad.
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May 26 2010, 06:20 PM
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3k notebook pwn 15k notebook kao kao in overall performance..
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May 26 2010, 06:24 PM
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is that all u can do???
for 1 u ve not said any Mac fact... for 2 u have not answered any of our questions (for today at least) for 3 u should start saying English instead of Angrish... for 4 army != uneducated... discrimination dun get u far... for 5 from the very 1st post u made in this thread, u ve yet to show us wat is it that our rm2k/3k/4k laptop can't do compared to ur rm15k MBP, besides the privilege of having iCoffee (wait, that's wat i said) |
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May 26 2010, 06:35 PM
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QUOTE(astria @ May 26 2010, 06:24 PM) is that all u can do??? you deserve to be flamed.for 1 u ve not said any Mac fact... for 2 u have not answered any of our questions (for today at least) for 3 u should start saying English instead of Angrish... for 4 army != uneducated... discrimination dun get u far... for 5 from the very 1st post u made in this thread, u ve yet to show us wat is it that our rm2k/3k/4k laptop can't do compared to ur rm15k MBP, besides the privilege of having iCoffee (wait, that's wat i said) What a 2k Toshiba can't do compared to a 4k Toshiba? What a 4k Asus can't do compared to a 4k Toshiba? If there is nothing, does that mean Asus or Toshiba is better? If both can do the same stuff, does that mean there is no difference? "can do"... f-king stupid lay man word. Almost all Laptops function similarly, and the difference between any 2 brands is getting blurrier over the years. There is difference between laptops produced by one brand compared to another, but the difference is usually marginal. Understand that, and please stop asking open ended questions which are meaningless.. This post has been edited by atukbaru: May 26 2010, 06:37 PM |
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May 26 2010, 06:36 PM
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aiyo, dont shoot him anymore plz, his words make me eyesore
i beg u~~~~~~btw, I love Mac!!! (oops, i mean Mac OS) |
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May 26 2010, 06:40 PM
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I think it has been discussed why Macbooks are priced in such ways.... Some guys here are just anti-apple, and they expect the Macbooks to fly to justify the pricing.
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May 26 2010, 06:41 PM
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QUOTE(atukbaru @ May 26 2010, 06:35 PM) you deserve to be flamed. in that case, y are u so agitated when (u think) we What a 2k Toshiba can't do compared to a 4k Toshiba? What a 4k Asus can't do compared to a 4k Toshiba? If there is nothing, does that mean Asus or Toshiba is better? If both can do the same stuff, does that mean there is no difference? "can do"... f-king stupid lay man word. Almost all Laptops function similarly, and the difference between any 2 brands is getting blurrier over the years. There is difference between laptops produced by one brand compared to another, but the difference is usually marginal. Understand that, and please stop asking open ended questions which are meaningless.. and by saying the distinction between brands is getting blurrier, back to the very original qn that u stirred up, wat makes Asus so different from Apple? This post has been edited by astria: May 26 2010, 06:42 PM |
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