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Science BIotech is not really good as government said?, Biotechnology graduate is hard to find?

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rach_
post Jun 13 2010, 12:24 AM

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Yup..PhD at ANU...My PhD project is Protein Engineering and Crytallography...
Protein engineering is not very established in malaysia..There's only a handful of people working on it in Malaysia..
Protein engineering is to improve desired properties of protein...such as increase thermostability so that it could by used in the industry or shift the pH of the enzyme so that it can function in a certain pH..Mine is to predict the uprising of bacterial antibiotic resistance toward beta-lactam antibiotics through protein evolution...
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omg so u r hard core biochemist! i always love protein work because it is so damn challenging (eg. its such a pain waiting for protein crystals to grow.), too bad i don't get a chance to be in that field yet.
So lots of westerns and bradford for u then? biggrin.gif
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post Jun 13 2010, 02:10 AM

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QUOTE(rach_ @ Jun 13 2010, 12:24 AM)
omg so u r hard core biochemist! i always love protein work because it is so damn challenging (eg. its such a pain waiting for protein crystals to grow.), too bad i don't get a chance to be in that field yet.
So lots of westerns and bradford for u then? biggrin.gif
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Haha...guess not...i've had my share of Bradford assays and western blotting during my RA-ship...
People in my current lab doesn't fancy these..Maybe because it's a chemistry department? lol
But i'll have lots of library generation and screening work in my coming days..
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post Jun 13 2010, 10:36 AM

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SD 1.5k pay is for trainees, 2.2k is the real pay for the real staff.

BT no job in Msia. got also under 2k, eat what to survive ?
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post Jun 13 2010, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(Chobits @ Jun 13 2010, 10:36 AM)
SD 1.5k pay is for trainees, 2.2k is the real pay for the real staff.

BT no job in Msia. got also under 2k, eat what to survive ?
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yeah...that's their management traineee program...and not every trainees get offered permanent positions in the end...
that's a smart way to get cheap labour...
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post Jul 8 2010, 11:22 AM

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I think biotech is such a young field in malaysia, and the government had overproduced biotech graduates...that's why hard to find job. Alot of my friends works in insurance or bank company.

when I graduate (2009), the economy turns really bad that time (recession starts too go really bad) so i decided to continue study instead of working. because if work got gaji like rm1.5 - 2 k/month. if study got allowance for rm1.5k/month. So studying is a better option. after all, i always want to do MSc
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post Jul 13 2010, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(rach_ @ May 19 2010, 08:18 AM)
Ok, I am a biotech graduate (BSc Hons.), my work is about bioinformatics! smile.gif
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Which company are u working with?
I am a bioinformatics graduate, working on bioinformatics now.
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post Jul 13 2010, 11:58 PM

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i can c fate cutejam n wyen again in biotech related thread lol...im too a biotech grad but ended up giving it a try in insurance also...
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post Jul 23 2010, 11:15 AM

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Research Assistant (Post-grad) in Plant pathology/ Agricultural Sciences (One post)

Applications are invited for Research Assistant position in a project titled “Development of chitosan-based nanoemulsion biofungicides for the control of Anthracnose disease of fruit crop”, based within the School of Biosciences. The position is for three years (1 year probation in the first instance) and, if appropriate, may be linked to the undertaking of an MPhil/PhD degree.

Eligible subject areas: plant pathology, biochemistry, plant biotechnology and horticulture.



For both post-grad positions, applicants must possess a 1st or upper 2nd class degree or Masters in a relevant subject, an appropriate English Language qualification and evidence of an aptitude for research.

The successful candidates will join an enthusiastic team of researchers working on novel approaches to disease management and enhancement of the quality of horticultural crop. Staff in the School at the Malaysia Campus work closely with staff in the School at Nottingham UK, who are renowned for their experience of the biochemistry and molecular biology of crop materials pre- and post-harvest.

The successful candidate will be expected to assist academic staff with teaching duties and laboratory demonstrations. Candidate is also expected to meet the following requirements:

Possess a good command of English, both spoken and written.
Possess good communication and interpersonal skills.
Other necessary attributes include the ability to work independently and to be proactive and resourceful.


[COLOR=purple] Is this a good field to invest time on it? the interviewed people say the fund is only for two years with possibility to extend to third year. I dont think it can give a phd at the end but maybe a mphil plus RM1500 only per month.

any other people had come across with a better stipend and benefit for a RA or phd?what is the university?
really thirsty for a job but really cant find any. what i have to say is 'stupid biotech'...........................................[COLOR=purple]


Added on July 23, 2010, 11:22 am
QUOTE(ckuanglim @ Jul 13 2010, 04:48 PM)
Which company are u working with?
I am a bioinformatics graduate, working on bioinformatics now.
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which company you r working in? i am graduate from biotech too, looking for job. did your company have any vacancy?


Added on July 23, 2010, 11:24 am
QUOTE(f4tE @ May 10 2010, 11:07 AM)
haha.. earning enough tongue.gif

Pay is good when u become the head of the department. Scarcity is of course less than the jobs available for other sectors such as banking, insurance. etc which doesnt require any specific field of study because anyone can take up that job. Meaning higher level of competition for that job.

Chemistry is another good field. I think better than biotech since the got more chances of employability.

Me a big fan of biotech? lol.. because im stuck in this field so trying to console myself..hahahahha
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so, what company you r working in? can i deposit resume to the company?been jobless for many months..............................................................

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post Jul 23 2010, 02:16 PM

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i guess overseas is the only option 2 maximize fully your biotech knowledge n skills laugh.gif so give it a try there rclxms.gif its G loss 4 the reduce population...u wont lose anything by going overseas 2 find jobs in your professional field
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post Jul 23 2010, 03:02 PM

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Hello everyone..i m currently doing my third year in biotech too. Yea, i also heard from my friends that a normal biotech graduate in malaysia will have a hard time find a job relating to their field. I do know that there is a lot of opportunities in other more well develop country but i don't think they will hire a foreigner based on the current economic situation . So, yes i m kinda worried now. Any biotech graduates mind to share their experience after graduating from university?
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post Aug 26 2010, 08:58 AM

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still no news job r and d company, do anyone know what those management associate programme that given by bank? it's the environment same like insurance company? very stress and work until very late each day? thinking of joining those programme but very scare of relocation to overseas like indonesia and vietnam.
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post Aug 27 2010, 04:20 PM

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Somehow I was wondering if all biotechs graduate don't get a work, or it depends on the courses?
I'm doing genetics and molecular bio, and I admit, it's hard even to seek for a place to do LI.
How about microbes and biochem students? Somehow I envisioned microbes students having lots of jobs opportunities. They can even stay in the hospital labs or work in health related sections.
Genetics? I don't know either shakehead.gif

And it irks me how companies always seek for experience ppl. I mean, where can we get experience if they didn't allow us to? By the end of the day, we'll have lots of inexperienced ppl waiting for jobs and lots of old, experienced ppl retiring from the company. Then what? Company goes KO coz they could find anymore experienced ppl. doh.gif
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post Aug 27 2010, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(Bravo Fashion Trends @ Aug 26 2010, 08:58 AM)
still no news job r and d company, do anyone know what those management associate programme that given by bank? it's the environment same like insurance company? very stress and work until very late each day? thinking of joining those programme but very scare of relocation to overseas like indonesia and vietnam.
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ya..thats one of plan too if i fail to get a job after i graduate. But i heard that it's not easy to join those management associate program. rclxub.gif
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post Aug 27 2010, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(aina_chan @ Aug 27 2010, 04:20 PM)
Somehow I was wondering if all biotechs graduate don't get a work, or it depends on the courses?
I'm doing genetics and molecular bio, and I admit, it's hard even to seek for a place to do LI.
How about microbes and biochem students? Somehow I envisioned microbes students having lots of jobs opportunities. They can even stay in the hospital labs or work in health related sections.
Genetics? I don't know either  shakehead.gif

And it irks me how companies always seek for experience ppl. I mean, where can we get experience if they didn't allow us to? By the end of the day, we'll have lots of inexperienced ppl waiting for jobs and lots of old, experienced ppl retiring from the company. Then what? Company goes KO coz they could find anymore experienced ppl. doh.gif
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yeah agree with that...they not giving chance to fresh grad and for sure in future they will lack of ppl equiped with bio skill rclxms.gif
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post Aug 27 2010, 09:58 PM

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bio fieild is a fail. Adbullah who started this program already retire and his successor might be retiring soon and we dont see any glimpse of hope in this field.
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post Aug 27 2010, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(im_not_stupid @ Aug 27 2010, 09:41 PM)
yeah agree with that...they not giving chance to fresh grad and for sure in future they will lack of ppl equiped with bio skill rclxms.gif
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IF there's a future in the biotech industry worth working for in the 1st place. The biotech industry in MY is very far from mature. Not by miles, but by continents. Despite the clamor over biotech this biotech that there's really nothing major that's been developed and commercialized by MY. Overall industry R&D spending in MY is poor (0.6%), never mind biotech alone. Spending on this particular sector is usually done by the gov.

From what I've seen, about the best place you could aim for is academia. Which makes sense if you sit down and think about it. If you're really serious about doing R&D but still want to remain in MY, academia is the best option u got. MY academia lacks significantly in manpower. And if you join a gov RLKA program hey, they fund ur postgraduate for u! AND when u come back from phd and start working, u get bumped straight up to grade DS51. Besides, who else is gonna give you the funds and grants u need to do the research u want and the training u need?
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post Aug 28 2010, 06:05 AM

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Malaysia tends to follow other countries. When other the big goons said "biotech is needed", MY jumps to it with the hope that they would not be left behind. They never look at the future (or they look too much in the future). R&D in MY can't suddenly go into a hike. The government needs to see how biotech comes around. They can't just go saying "Lots of graduates of biotech field is needed by 2015!" or sth like that. They'd be influx of ppl taking biotech, and resulting in influx in ppl menganggur later.

QUOTE(pleasuresaurus @ Aug 27 2010, 11:31 PM)
From what I've seen, about the best place you could aim for is academia. Which makes sense if you sit down and think about it. If you're really serious about doing R&D but still want to remain in MY, academia is the best option u got
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Academia? What is it actually? 100% for R&D or sth to do with education field? It doesn't seemed to have a proper website.

I was wondering about the biotech corp that is seemed to be on the rise lately. They did something about the usahawan and biotech, but somehow I think it's just government's way of promoting the course. One company being active doesn't mean all biotech field is rising. My friend did plant biotech, and she ends up opting for masters and then phD. Become a lecturer coz apparently, there IS a shortage of lecturers.

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post Aug 28 2010, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(aina_chan @ Aug 28 2010, 06:05 AM)
Academia? What is it actually? 100% for R&D or sth to do with education field? It doesn't seemed to have a proper website.
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Academia refers to the academic sector in general, like what ur friend did - do MSc and PhD then become a lecturer. U could opt for private or public academic institutions or research centers. Public would be a good place to start since they don't mind spending on ur training and education. Although considering how broke the country is right now, I don't know how long this will last.

The Malaysian Biotech Corp is a facilitator, an enabler - they help promote the sector and assist in R,D,C & E. Hence their dishing out bionexus certs, entrepreneurship progs, bionexus partner facilities, information, partnering, commercialization assistance etc. They don't necessarily do biotech per se, they focus their efforts on building up the local industry in that sector. Pretty much like what MDeC is to the ICT industry.

They way I see it la guys, the country needs entrepreneurs , ppl to head out there and build the industry. If there's no place for u to work, build one! Get involved in commercializing local R&D, create a start-up. Not as easy as it sounds, yes, but this is what's necessary.


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post Aug 28 2010, 07:56 PM

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Hi, im a biotech grad also.. i was offered 2.3k at asiatic (genting)...but i rejected it..because i was thinking to pursue my phd...i didnt put much effort..so ended giving up now... now looking for job again....
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Wow.. didnt put effort and u get a starting salary of 2.3k. notworthy.gif

Not many people get to work in bio field

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