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Science BIotech is not really good as government said?, Biotechnology graduate is hard to find?

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post Aug 28 2010, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(aidan86 @ Aug 28 2010, 07:56 PM)
Hi, im a biotech grad also.. i was offered 2.3k at asiatic (genting)...but i rejected it..because i was thinking to pursue my phd...i didnt put much effort..so ended giving up now... now looking for job again....
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guess lotsa biotech grads wanna beat u cz u rejected d precious opportunity LOL
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post Aug 28 2010, 08:33 PM

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Yes they will beat you. Why the hell you apply for job and deprive others the opportunity when you already decided to phd doh.gif
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post Aug 28 2010, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(f4tE @ Aug 28 2010, 08:02 PM)
Wow.. didnt put effort and u get a starting salary of 2.3k. notworthy.gif

Not many people get to work in bio field
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clarifiy here. i didnt put effort in my RA ship to prepare me for PHD. for personal reasons..
that time i got the offer, i already in RA ship. wat i tot is that doing phd will give me more in the future, but its not as easy as i tot....when i think carefully, i m not interested in becoming a lecturer, so wat is the reason for me to do phd? my research faced repeated failure which upsets me.. so i quit..


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QUOTE(f4tE @ Aug 28 2010, 08:33 PM)
Yes they will beat you. Why the hell you apply for job and deprive others the opportunity when you already decided to phd doh.gif
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i went for the interview a few months earlier...i tot i hv no chance already..then only i go into RA ship

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post Aug 28 2010, 09:15 PM

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So how? U dun 1 be lecturer and u din accept offer. WHat u gonna do in life by taking phd?
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post Aug 28 2010, 10:40 PM

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actually even after u pursue PHD u still need to find a company to get a job... unless u wanted u be lecturer its a bit of waste if u do PHD..
unless u are so lucky that u can get into RnD after u grad from PHD~
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post Aug 28 2010, 11:56 PM

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From what i heard, RnD in bio field doesn't pay well. (in msia)

@aidan86
wow u gave up a job with a starting pay of 2.3k. not many bio related jobs pay that kind of amount for a bio fresh grad.

@pleasuresaurus
u need lots of $$ if you really want to build up the bio industry in malaysia.
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post Aug 29 2010, 05:08 AM

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QUOTE(Genzyme @ Aug 28 2010, 11:56 PM)
u need lots of $$ if you really want to build up the bio industry in malaysia.
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Sure, more than any other R&D intensive industry. But it doesn't have to be YOUR money.....
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post Aug 29 2010, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(aidan86 @ Aug 28 2010, 07:56 PM)
Hi, im a biotech grad also.. i was offered 2.3k at asiatic (genting)...
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Just wondering, which specialization in biotech are you from? bioinfo? biochem? microbe?
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Anyway, people said it's better to go for phD and become a lecturer, but I think I prefer being an RA and do demo-ing in labs rather than teaching...
Some uni (like mine, as I found out from the lecturers), gives red slip to even good lecturers if they didn't do any research...

Is there actually more of biotech graduates going for teaching or more of them opting for working in a completely unrelated field? Just curious.

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post Aug 29 2010, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(f4tE @ Aug 28 2010, 09:15 PM)
So how? U dun 1 be lecturer and u din accept offer. WHat u gonna do in life by taking phd?
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im working in another company now. 2k for probation 3 months. its not in the lab. not quite related. but my knowledge in biotech can sometimes be used.


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QUOTE(aina_chan @ Aug 29 2010, 08:46 AM)
Just wondering, which specialization in biotech are you from? bioinfo? biochem? microbe?
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Anyway, people said it's better to go for phD and become a lecturer, but I think I prefer being an RA and do demo-ing in labs rather than teaching...
Some uni (like mine, as I found out from the lecturers), gives red slip to even good lecturers if they didn't do any research...

Is there actually more of biotech graduates going for teaching or more of them opting for working in a completely unrelated field? Just curious.
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tissue culture and molecular...

my coursemate teaching a-level biology...(2.5k)..

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post Aug 29 2010, 03:08 PM

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does pharmaceutical companies hire biotech graduates?
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post Aug 29 2010, 03:15 PM

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They do, but in MY, they're mostly for sales & marketing rather than R&D. i myself started out in life as a pharma sales rep - a glorified drug pusher hahaha. There's not much pharma drug research going on in industry here - and if there is ur probably getting paid peanuts for it as a fresh grad.
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post Aug 29 2010, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(pleasuresaurus @ Aug 29 2010, 03:15 PM)
They do, but in MY, they're mostly for sales & marketing rather than R&D. i myself started out in life as a pharma sales rep - a glorified drug pusher hahaha. There's not much pharma drug research going on in industry here - and if there is ur probably getting paid peanuts for it as a fresh grad.
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How was the pay when you started out as a sales and marketing rep?
Ya, i agree..pharma drug research is still quite slow over here.
So, what kind of job are you currently doing? mind if i ask?
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post Aug 29 2010, 05:19 PM

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If not fresh grad also i cant see ppl earning much
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post Aug 29 2010, 08:59 PM

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Back then it was a basic of almost 2k plus commission for achieving annual sales targets successfully. Sales commissions were pretty good actually - if u hit them you could be making double your annual basic. And the targets weren't out-of-this-world difficult too achieve.
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post Sep 1 2010, 03:20 PM

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Anyone actually get a work offer at the same place they do Latihan industri?
What is a good place to do that anyway? I can barely see any suitable place
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post Sep 1 2010, 11:26 PM

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my fren did internship in sime darby, in d end after grad sime darby don't want them...
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post Sep 2 2010, 04:17 PM

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I work in Genting Palm Oil Research before i continue my study. Salary was 2.3k per month, they do offer internship too. good place for learn things, they might offer you to stay as permanent staff if your performance are really good.
Getting a car soon, hope i get job soon and more easily as no need to worry about no transport of reach that place.
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post Sep 2 2010, 04:23 PM

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Is a waste of time and money to study biotech...
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post Sep 2 2010, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(Bravo Fashion Trends @ Sep 2 2010, 04:17 PM)
I work in Genting Palm Oil Research before i continue my study. Salary was 2.3k per month, they do offer internship too.  good place for learn things, they might offer you to stay as permanent staff if your performance are really good.
Getting a car soon, hope i get job soon and more easily as no need to worry about no transport of reach that place.
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get a job 1st then get confirmed then GET a car

all in that sequence

unless u like doin lab work, dun do bio tech

do chemistry or environment, more jobs
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post Sep 3 2010, 11:26 AM

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I've got a friend with a degree in Biotech and he says all there are right now are just sales & marketing jobs lol

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