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Science BIotech is not really good as government said?, Biotechnology graduate is hard to find?

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happy_pink
post May 29 2010, 01:56 AM

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QUOTE(highwind85 @ May 28 2010, 11:53 PM)
I am doing my PhD now..
Doing a PhD doesn't really correlated to getting a job easier..you have to understand that 1st..
Certain jobs need PhD qualification, certain jobs need Masters and certain need only BSc..They have different niche...like you can't work as a lecturer with BSc and it's insane for a PhD holder to work as a medical lab technologist..
I do PhD because i want to do something related to what i studied..and i don't want to do repetitive stuffs day in day out..With a BSc in bio-related course, i'll end up with jobs like technician if you insist on working on something related to what I studied...and it is kind of a personal satisfaction to get a PhD..
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post May 29 2010, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(highwind85 @ May 28 2010, 11:40 PM)
There are ample scholarships available for international students...universities itself do offer scholarships to qualified applicants..
No one is going to do a PhD in Aus without a scholarship..the fees are very high..
3 years...but no one usually could finish in 3 years..usually 3-4 years..
Nope..no publications...i have to work from scratch as the previous masters student left a pile of mess for me to follow up...the more i work on it, the more error i found..and i have to back track to previous stages..and for bio-related project, you can't publish much...if you break up you projects to publish in a few papers, the papers would have lesser quality than you publish them in one as a whole..

PS: if you look around, there are a lot of countries which accept BSc (1st class honours) holders to their PhD program..1st class honours is the minimum for such admission..
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oic.. cuz for my scholarship need 2 recommendation letter, attend test, interview and stuff so i thought all scholarship will be this tough. I only applied to one because not easy to get so many recommendation letter.

I see one of the criteria is proof of english ability. Did u take the toefl or watever english test for this scholarship? Can we just just watever malaysian english test we have? Because i used that for current scholarship. Well japan doesnt really need english anyway lol
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post May 29 2010, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(f4tE @ May 29 2010, 11:58 AM)
oic.. cuz for my scholarship need 2 recommendation letter, attend test, interview and stuff so i thought all scholarship will be this tough. I only applied to one because not easy to get so many recommendation letter.

I see one of the criteria is proof of english ability. Did u take the toefl or watever english test for this scholarship? Can we just just watever malaysian english test we have? Because i used that for current scholarship. Well japan doesnt really need english anyway lol
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My application for PhD requires 3 recommendation letters and the scholarship requires another 3...So i am glad that i did my RA-ship...and i feel very paiseh when i keep on bugging lecturers for recommendation letters..I took IELTS...the PhD application requires that..the scholarship application requires IELTS, Offer letter, and etc...lack of anyone of those would prohibit you from submitting an application..
Haha...do not underestimate scholarship applications without interview...It's not as easy as you think..for one you miss the chance to prove your worth in front of the scholarship selection panel...and writing an attractive statement of purpose which would stand out among the 2000+ applicants is no easy task..and academic excellence is nothing as most of the applicants have 1st class honours anyway...it would really depend on the essays, letters and credentials you have to pull it through..track record can't be built in a day..

which university are you in now?

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post May 29 2010, 03:42 PM

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oh so difficult. I guess i will skip la. Hate troublesome stuff. Somemore 3 letter. My previous experience made me hate asking lecturers for recommendation letter. Before this i was also doing RA then ask my supervisor for recommendation letter. That idiot say ok ok but in the end didnt do anything and just kept quiet and disappeared. Damn f***er. Luckily i got other contacts.


Added on May 29, 2010, 3:46 pmthink also angry.. this is 1 lecturer which i will never respect in my whole f***ing life.. if he think im not worthy then at least reject me dont say ok ok then disaappear

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post May 29 2010, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(f4tE @ May 29 2010, 03:42 PM)
oh so difficult. I guess i will skip la. Hate troublesome stuff. Somemore 3 letter. My previous experience made me hate asking lecturers for recommendation letter. Before this i was also doing RA then ask my supervisor for recommendation letter. That idiot say ok ok but in the end didnt do anything and just kept quiet and disappeared. Damn f***er. Luckily i got other contacts.


Added on May 29, 2010, 3:46 pmthink also angry.. this is 1 lecturer which i will never respect in my whole f***ing life.. if he think im not worthy then at least reject me dont say ok ok then disaappear
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Lol...usually lecturers are forgetful...at least for my case..got 1 professor..i asked him to be my referee and he said ok..so i passed him my CV, transcript and everything so that he can write for me..after a few days, i went to see him again and he was like "who are you?" i ROTFLOL...he's just being forgetful..he did write for me..
at least you referee chose not to do anything and that's not too bad...i heard cases where the supervisor agree to write, but wrote badly for a senior...that cost him his scholarship..as the content of the letter is confidential, you wont know unless the author or the correspondent tell you..
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post May 29 2010, 10:27 PM

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Would love to know the real picture behind the so-called biotech.
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post May 29 2010, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(JJKTP @ May 29 2010, 10:27 PM)
Would love to know the real picture behind the so-called biotech.
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what kind of real picture you want to know?
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post May 29 2010, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(highwind85 @ May 29 2010, 10:03 PM)
Lol...usually lecturers are forgetful...at least for my case..got 1 professor..i asked him to be my referee and he said ok..so i passed him my CV, transcript and everything so that he can write for me..after a few days, i went to see him again and he was like "who are you?" i ROTFLOL...he's just being forgetful..he did write for me..
at least you referee chose not to do anything and that's not too bad...i heard cases where the supervisor agree to write, but wrote badly for a senior...that cost him his scholarship..as the content of the letter is confidential, you wont know unless the author or the correspondent tell you..
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forget? I dont. All i know is that he dont care about anyone or anything except his own stuff. WHat a selfish guy. Hope he rot in hell. Other lecturers i see even though i didnt actualyl knwo them well and they dont know the the f*** i am, they still being friendly to me, willing to write and discuss about my plan. ALthough in the end i didnt ask them to write.

Picture behind biotech? I think is this

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post May 29 2010, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(f4tE @ May 29 2010, 10:52 PM)
user posted image
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Picture speaks a thousand words...biotech relies on molecular biological technique for DNA manipulation..
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post Jun 5 2010, 03:36 PM

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biotech degree....not useful....140 grads, less than 20% is doing real biotech job stuff this includes masters biotech.

80% do banking, sales, insurance, production lines. haiz so saddings
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post Jun 5 2010, 04:10 PM

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true true.. not very useful.. even if u work in biotech related job you will think to doubt what you do can contribute to the economy or country
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post Jun 5 2010, 08:54 PM

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my friends all got offers btw 1.5-1.8, and those are first class grads! All bio companies- molecular bio/microbiologist positions...So not worth it! After deducting epf n socso, it would be basically around 1.3-1.6, wtf.

So little for a fresh grad from a course that is freaking tough sad.gif
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post Jun 5 2010, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(cutejams2004 @ Jun 5 2010, 07:54 PM)
my friends all got offers btw 1.5-1.8, and those are first class grads! All bio companies- molecular bio/microbiologist positions...So not worth it! After deducting epf n socso, it would be basically around 1.3-1.6, wtf.

So little for a fresh grad from a course that is freaking tough sad.gif
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actually how come so low?
because of small company?
doesnt matter la
after working for a few years will increase
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post Jun 7 2010, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(happy_pink @ Jun 5 2010, 10:13 PM)
actually how come so low?
because of small company?
doesnt matter la
after working for a few years will increase
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Sime darby only offering 2.2k for biotech ppl.....
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post Jun 8 2010, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(Chobits @ Jun 7 2010, 09:34 PM)
Sime darby only offering 2.2k for biotech ppl.....
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that day i heard 2.5 k
i think when u work longer will increase right?
anyway
1.5 -1.8 is quite hard to survive
see now everything so expensive
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1.3 to 1.5 are total prank.

at least the starting should be 1.8k plus plus.

don't worry about the prospects i believe somehow, those who are keen on this field would stand out the best.


Added on June 8, 2010, 3:22 pm
QUOTE(Chobits @ Jun 7 2010, 10:34 PM)
Sime darby only offering 2.2k for biotech ppl.....
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that u have to reask this question: what are the differences between working in the lab with that of working at the factory?


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post Jun 8 2010, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(OMG! @ Jun 8 2010, 03:20 PM)
1.3 to 1.5 are total prank.

at least the starting should be 1.8k plus plus.

don't worry about the prospects i believe somehow, those who are keen on this field would stand out the best.


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that u have to reask this question: what are the differences between working in the lab with that of working at the factory?
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Factory? I thought sime darby group has independent research lab. smile.gif
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post Jun 8 2010, 03:57 PM

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yes it does have labs. but u got to bear in mind that how does the plantation raw materials being produced to bear the final products? it got to go to factory for the manufacturing stuffs and so.
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QUOTE(OMG! @ Jun 8 2010, 03:57 PM)
yes it does have labs. but u got to bear in mind that how does the plantation raw materials being produced to bear the final products? it got to go to factory for the manufacturing stuffs and so.
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hmm...im not sure about sime darby, but for genting group which is also dealing with crops, their lab work is pretty much in the lab, even involve some bioinformatics work. Probably you are right too, don't think we gonna be sure about how they run their lab unless we are working inside.

Anyway, 2200 actually is not too bad for entry-level, isn't it? Working in university or research institute labs always get relatively low pay because obviously academic labs have lesser financial power than corporate companies. It is not an issue of working in a "factory", really. Also, by working in a "factory" do you mean you are concern about uncomfortable or unhealthy work environment?


Added on June 8, 2010, 4:16 pm
QUOTE(highwind85 @ May 29 2010, 10:03 PM)
Lol...usually lecturers are forgetful...at least for my case..got 1 professor..i asked him to be my referee and he said ok..so i passed him my CV, transcript and everything so that he can write for me..after a few days, i went to see him again and he was like "who are you?" i ROTFLOL...he's just being forgetful..he did write for me..
at least you referee chose not to do anything and that's not too bad...i heard cases where the supervisor agree to write, but wrote badly for a senior...that cost him his scholarship..as the content of the letter is confidential, you wont know unless the author or the correspondent tell you..
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You are doing phd in ANU? very cool! I graduated in australia too, but i stopped at honours, came back msia and working now. Miss the lab days, though. smile.gif
What is your phd project about?

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QUOTE(rach_ @ Jun 8 2010, 04:14 PM)
hmm...im not sure about sime darby, but for genting group which is also dealing with crops, their lab work is pretty much in the lab, even involve some bioinformatics work. Probably you are right too, don't think we gonna be sure about how they run their lab unless we are working inside.

Anyway, 2200 actually is not too bad for entry-level, isn't it? Working in university or research institute labs always get relatively low pay because obviously academic labs have lesser financial power than corporate companies. It is not an issue of working in a "factory", really. Also, by working in a "factory" do you mean you are concern about uncomfortable or unhealthy work environment?


Added on June 8, 2010, 4:16 pm
You are doing phd in ANU? very cool! I graduated in australia too, but i stopped at honours, came back msia and working now. Miss the lab days, though.  smile.gif
What is your phd project about?
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