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post Sep 3 2010, 09:13 PM

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take it as lesson in life to make choices wisely biggrin.gif
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post Sep 3 2010, 10:20 PM

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well...a successful wise old man told me that what we studied during uni is just a stepping stone in our life so better don't just limit our choice to what we studied~ smile.gif
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post Sep 3 2010, 10:24 PM

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the successful wise old man is telling u what he should do during his time. Now time changed his advice already outdated.
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post Sep 4 2010, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(ps3roxor @ Sep 3 2010, 11:26 AM)
I've got a friend with a degree in Biotech and he says all there are right now are just sales & marketing jobs lol
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true. lots of people have told me about it.
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post Sep 4 2010, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(im_not_stupid @ Sep 3 2010, 10:20 PM)
well...a successful wise old man told me that what we studied during uni is just a stepping stone in our life so better don't just limit our choice to what we studied~ smile.gif
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rclxms.gif thumbup.gif true enough...I have a degree in biotech and yet i never limited my choice towards this field only.

Embarked on a different path (sales) but not in the science line but rather financial publishing line and foraging into the writing line as well after this...
My knowledge of biotech might not be used at all but then again, at least it serves as additional knowledge (which is not a loss). tongue.gif

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post Sep 4 2010, 02:20 PM

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It will turn out better for you if you did not choose biotech inthe first place and go for something else related to sales. smile.gif

So the what the old man said is not entirely true. Its just a word to comfort yourself for taking the wrong step
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QUOTE(fifi85 @ Sep 4 2010, 02:20 PM)
It will turn out better for you if you did not choose biotech inthe first place and go for something else related to sales. smile.gif

So the what the old man said is not entirely true. Its just a word to comfort yourself for taking the wrong step
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post Sep 5 2010, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(fifi85 @ Sep 4 2010, 02:20 PM)
It will turn out better for you if you did not choose biotech inthe first place and go for something else related to sales. smile.gif

So the what the old man said is not entirely true. Its just a word to comfort yourself for taking the wrong step
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dude, life is not always meant to be perfect...chill!

i've seen those in business(-sales related course basically) who ends up not getting any job either..So, yeah life is not like fixed to something.Keep ur mind open to various options and only then would you look at the bigger picture

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post Sep 5 2010, 12:25 AM

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do u think the prospects r good for a biotech-related job with minimal labwork?
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post Sep 5 2010, 01:14 AM

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QUOTE(fifi85 @ Sep 4 2010, 02:20 PM)
It will turn out better for you if you did not choose biotech inthe first place and go for something else related to sales. smile.gif

So the what the old man said is not entirely true. Its just a word to comfort yourself for taking the wrong step
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dude not everyone know what they want before step into the true world...if everyone doin sales who can do research in various field to make the world better?or make products for ppl to do sales?
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post Sep 5 2010, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(im_not_stupid @ Sep 5 2010, 01:14 AM)
dude not everyone know what they want before step into the true world...if everyone doin sales who can do research in various field to make the world better?or make products for ppl to do sales?
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If they do not know what they want b4 step into true worls, then why choose something so specialize such as biotech? Wont it be a stupid choice? If dont know what they want, better take something general like marketing, sales, and other field which can provide more job opportunities.

Your second statement is true. Research is necessary but it doesnt happen in malaysia. Malaysia is just a marketing target for those research companies. Not good enough for them to invest in research yet. How many local research product do you see selling in the market? Probably around 10 only.
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post Sep 5 2010, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(aina_chan @ Sep 1 2010, 03:20 PM)
Anyone actually get a work offer at the same place they do Latihan industri?
What is a good place to do that anyway? I can barely see any suitable place
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Drop me a pm if u still looking for LI place,might be able to help.
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QUOTE(~Curious~ @ Sep 5 2010, 12:25 AM)
do u think the prospects r good for a biotech-related job with minimal labwork?
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it's pretty rewarding if you are a persuasive and business minded person

as I prefer labworks rather than sales
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post Sep 29 2010, 12:04 AM

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biotech grad here, working with sime darby research..

pay is normal exec pay; if get into management can get more. damn. sad.gif

but this is normal, scientists arent exactly the highest paid employees in most companies anyway.

go work closer to where the money is and your pocket will be filled, im not kidding. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(powerfulcool @ Sep 29 2010, 12:04 AM)
biotech grad here, working with sime darby research..

pay is normal exec pay; if get into management can get more. damn. sad.gif

but this is normal, scientists arent exactly the highest paid employees in most companies anyway.

go work closer to where the money is and your pocket will be filled, im not kidding. biggrin.gif
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Yeah, the starting salary for scientists are more often than not, demoralizing... still, it gets better and better as time passes by, provided we don't give up, that is....
Once we get our own patents heh heh heh laugh.gif

Biotech not as good as the government said? Yeah right... sweat.gif
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http://blogs.forbes.com/meghancasserly/201...ers-in-america/

Unbelievable but yet is true: The most happiest job in US is biotech!~
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post Mar 31 2011, 10:43 PM

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heard that the govt has reserved high majority of the work opportunity in biotech field to certain "category of" of ppl which is also known has "quota system".

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QUOTE(the7signals @ Mar 31 2011, 10:43 PM)
heard that the govt has reserved high majority of the work opportunity in biotech field to certain "category of" of ppl which is also known has "quota system".
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wot oso need quota system...wot comes next? Race birth rate quota? Number of certain race population in certain city quota?
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Biotech graduate here, in fact just graduated 3 weeks ago. Among the wide field of Biotech, Im doing molecular cloning and genetic engineering, that's where my interest lies. It's a fact that biotech-related job very hard to find. My friends get their lab job with 1.8k, mind you that they are all 1st class. Not being disencouranging, Msia is NOT READY for this field, resources such as grants are used for research that are hardly be commercialized. Pursuing master must have a strong purpose. If you feel despair in job hunting after your bachelor then only you opt for a master. That is totally nonsense because after your master you will be facing the same issue since your focus is at somewhere else. If you are still stuck in university, kindly involve in more activities that will make your resume look nice. Explore some other functional area like marketing or even sales. They are just as cool as lab work. Translating R&D output into a branded product requires the right people speaking the right words. Open up your mind to find something RELEVANT. We are having noble knowledge in ourselve and please don't sell yourself short just because of lack of response from companies, it might due to the low demand. Keep yourself relevant and when the day comes, we all shall be able to shine with glory.
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post Jun 1 2011, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(goer&doer @ Jun 1 2011, 02:25 AM)
Biotech graduate here, in fact just graduated 3 weeks ago. Among the wide field of Biotech, Im doing molecular cloning and genetic engineering, that's where my interest lies. It's a fact that biotech-related job very hard to find. My friends get their lab job with 1.8k, mind you that they are all 1st class. Not being disencouranging, Msia is NOT READY for this field, resources such as grants are used for research that are hardly be commercialized. Pursuing master must have a strong purpose. If you feel despair in job hunting after your bachelor then only you opt for a master. That is totally nonsense because after your master you will be facing the same issue since your focus is at somewhere else. If you are still stuck in university, kindly involve in more activities that will make your resume look nice. Explore some other functional area like marketing or even sales. They are just as cool as lab work. Translating R&D output into a branded product requires the right people speaking the right words. Open up your mind to find something RELEVANT. We are having noble knowledge in ourselve and please don't sell yourself short just because of lack of response from companies, it might due to the low demand. Keep yourself relevant and when the day comes, we all shall be able to shine with glory.
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1.8k is obviously low, but then the pay for scientists is low everywhere else in the world anyway, and I do mean PhDs not just your average degree graduates.

So really there's no money in science, we do it because we are really interested in it, not because of the money. Imagine working late into the night and coming back during weekends, and not getting paid for these extra hours of work.

If I wanted money I'd have gone for doctors, lawyers, or heck, even plumbers make more money than scientists (and I am talking about foreign countries with leading research reputation, not just Malaysia).

However, I definitely disagree with your statement that marketing or sales are as cool as lab work. I'm sorry but to me lab work is probably the most satisfying job ever, with so many challenges to take on, so many novel ideas to be attempted, that's what really interesting about science. That's why I always think that the most talented students should go for scientists instead of becoming doctors.

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