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cutejams2004
post May 9 2010, 11:40 PM

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Gonna be agreeing with this soon. Biotech, soon to be grad here. Got job offers, all non-biotech related. Anyway i didnt bother putting effort into trying to apply for biotech positions either biggrin.gif

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post May 10 2010, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(f4tE @ May 10 2010, 09:59 AM)
the true biotech grad that has a job in the science field are busy doing their experiment or analsing result,s giving presentations rather than sitting in front of the computer surfing LYN laugh.gif
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I think what he referred to was the scarcity of jobs in this field and the pay that somehow doesnt equal up to other fields?

U seem to be a big fan of biotech and u keep saying it has bright future. Makes me wonder how much u are earning in ur bio-related company

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post May 18 2010, 11:01 AM

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yes. But i think they are referring to science based positions such as scientist/lab officer/RA's and so on. Entering sales/qc/ and other divisions are not hard, its just that some who studied biotech prefer to be in the R&D division itself, which is pretty much lacking in malaysia.
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post May 18 2010, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(zstan @ May 18 2010, 11:03 AM)
errmm..i got one friend..bio tech grad..

now become research assistant at a public u..
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Meaning he/she is pursuing his/her masters in science:nod: Thats one option, but not everyone would have the chance to do so. Anyhow, if one is optimistic and willing to step into another field, then i think there should be no problems on finding a job.
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post May 19 2010, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(snoxd @ May 19 2010, 10:59 AM)
Not in Malaysia, but developed countries will need bio tech like Singapore.
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And they have enough grads from their own unis too. biggrin.gif
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post May 24 2010, 07:01 PM

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to be honest most of the companies only employ malays
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post May 24 2010, 08:47 PM

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Well because the entire biotech thing is by the government. All the companies included-GLCs. And most of them maintain a policy of 100% bumiputra. They hire only malays, and thats the truth. Try checking out the profiles of the companies in biotechcorp.

Lol even that website is almost dead with no updates whatsoever for some time. It shows how much biotech developed. From a "extremely hyped over field" to a 'dying field".

There are positions available for lab technicians and so on, but sad to say their requirements- Minimum SPM in science background. The degree is like hmm a waste then. For scientists positions---> minimum masters + experience or phd, and they are very specific as to which part of biotech they require.
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post May 25 2010, 10:00 PM

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to be honest, iskandar project doesnt look to bright either. Another gimmick by the gov to boost the economy temporarily.
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post May 26 2010, 10:05 PM

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they dont need to increase salary, they need to reduce the prices of things out there. And that can only be done by stabilizing the economy back. Else, increasing the salary would be useless if the prices of goods keep increasing as well.
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post Jun 5 2010, 08:54 PM

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my friends all got offers btw 1.5-1.8, and those are first class grads! All bio companies- molecular bio/microbiologist positions...So not worth it! After deducting epf n socso, it would be basically around 1.3-1.6, wtf.

So little for a fresh grad from a course that is freaking tough sad.gif
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post Jun 9 2010, 10:19 PM

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sime darby is offering 1.5 people biggrin.gif not 2.5

True, few yrs experience and u'll be somewhere after that, but for some, the few years seems hmm so long.
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post Jun 12 2010, 01:24 PM

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if u like sales, the opportunity is vast, if ur looking for technical lab based positions, good luck on that.

If money is not what ur looking for, then i guess you'll be happy, else u'll be regretting.
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post Sep 3 2010, 09:13 PM

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take it as lesson in life to make choices wisely biggrin.gif
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post Sep 4 2010, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(im_not_stupid @ Sep 3 2010, 10:20 PM)
well...a successful wise old man told me that what we studied during uni is just a stepping stone in our life so better don't just limit our choice to what we studied~ smile.gif
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rclxms.gif thumbup.gif true enough...I have a degree in biotech and yet i never limited my choice towards this field only.

Embarked on a different path (sales) but not in the science line but rather financial publishing line and foraging into the writing line as well after this...
My knowledge of biotech might not be used at all but then again, at least it serves as additional knowledge (which is not a loss). tongue.gif

Life is learning process, so be ready to learn new things when it comes to working life.
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post Sep 5 2010, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(fifi85 @ Sep 4 2010, 02:20 PM)
It will turn out better for you if you did not choose biotech inthe first place and go for something else related to sales. smile.gif

So the what the old man said is not entirely true. Its just a word to comfort yourself for taking the wrong step
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dude, life is not always meant to be perfect...chill!

i've seen those in business(-sales related course basically) who ends up not getting any job either..So, yeah life is not like fixed to something.Keep ur mind open to various options and only then would you look at the bigger picture

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post Jun 1 2011, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(tester @ Jun 1 2011, 09:28 PM)
1.8k is obviously low, but then the pay for scientists is low everywhere else in the world anyway, and I do mean PhDs not just your average degree graduates.

So really there's no money in science, we do it because we are really interested in it, not because of the money. Imagine working late into the night and coming back during weekends, and not getting paid for these extra hours of work.

If I wanted money I'd have gone for doctors, lawyers, or heck, even plumbers make more money than scientists (and I am talking about foreign countries with leading research reputation, not just Malaysia).

However, I definitely disagree with your statement that marketing or sales are as cool as lab work. I'm sorry but to me lab work is probably the most satisfying job ever, with so many challenges to take on, so many novel ideas to be attempted, that's what really interesting about science. That's why I always think that the most talented students should go for scientists instead of becoming doctors.
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But people's got a life to think off and money, sadly, play a major role in it....


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QUOTE(tester @ Jun 1 2011, 09:28 PM)
1.8k is obviously low, but then the pay for scientists is low everywhere else in the world anyway, and I do mean PhDs not just your average degree graduates.

So really there's no money in science, we do it because we are really interested in it, not because of the money. Imagine working late into the night and coming back during weekends, and not getting paid for these extra hours of work.

If I wanted money I'd have gone for doctors, lawyers, or heck, even plumbers make more money than scientists (and I am talking about foreign countries with leading research reputation, not just Malaysia).

However, I definitely disagree with your statement that marketing or sales are as cool as lab work. I'm sorry but to me lab work is probably the most satisfying job ever, with so many challenges to take on, so many novel ideas to be attempted, that's what really interesting about science. That's why I always think that the most talented students should go for scientists instead of becoming doctors.
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But people's got a life to think off and money, sadly, play a major role in it....

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