Healthy Harvest is harvesting the nests after the birds fledged so that there will be a continuously new generation of swiftlets and if everyone in the industry doing the same, there will certainly be an great improvement of the success rate story and hopefully instate of 20% successful and 80& failure; we shall have 80% successful BHs and 20% failure due to wrong choice of location or method used only.

IshaAllah, we all prosper

Oh i get it. Yeah it is important to harvest this way so that future swiftlet population will increase more. Do u mind answer my previous question on swiftlet life cycle?

Do you know the reason why it sometime take me more than 3 weeks to harvest all the nests as I need to ensure the birds in the nests that I harvested have fledged. I usually go into the BH and removed only those nests used and spare those new and also those with young birds, chicks and eggs if any. By looking at the appearance of the young birds in the nests shall determine my next harvest and normally shall be 1 week,approximately. Then I shall harvest again and again until all nests can be harvested are taken down but sometime, the birds lay their egg before we can harvest and so, the duration of cycle maybe shorten in this case as the birds need not build a new nest but just add alittle more to the nest and sometime, the birds lay eggs in half completed nests so the actual time taken cannot be proven and just estimated.


Just my experience and method of harvesting to share.

I guess we have the same harvesting method though. Just that i dont really know how to determine my next harvest by looking at young bird. I can try agak agak only. So most of the time we go in once for every 2 weeks to either harvest or cleaning the drops. We use scope to clean it and it is quite tiring i guess. How do u clean the drops? Some ppl here use vacuum. Haha.

Better check properly the ROI. Solar panel alone does not work. It needs inverters to convert DC to AC. Tat's expensive part.

As far as I understand from a seminar, industry people talking about 15-20 yrs payback on paper. 1kW cheapest they were talking abt >RM15,000 using solar cell made in China. Again, all these only on paper. Would they (seller) be around 15yrs later? They didnt tell u whole truth about maintenance cost. PV inverter lifespan hear ~5yrs, luck more. PV like any other gadget can deteriorate when gets older, like young men when grow old walk also slow slow less productive.

Electricity cost generally lower in this country so payback longer. For a developed country, electricity bill higher so payback for PV shorter. Tat's the common logic. All the so call 'green tech' just for show some ministry are working lah. If they sincerely want to go green, should build MRT 25yrs ago or implement green buses like Korea and discourage people from driving Protong.

You bh using almost constant power supply. PV works if power fluctuate so extra sell back to TNB. Don't lah oversize with intention to get money from TNB. Latest heard from radio to make FIT attractive they comparing miserable return with FD. FD better lah if need money can straight withdraw. Cannot sell 2nd hand PV neither.

Latest heard some listed co by the name B** investing wat 1000MW solar power plant in Selangor. Just wondering whether they got con or crack some joke to stir market.

My bh using potable solar lights for experiment. On paper they telling AA battery can last easily 8 mths to 1 yr. Mine start 'kaputing' 3 mths onwards. 8mths probably referring to China dry and cool weather, not here hot any humid. Kena kon

PV works if don't have TNB supply at ur bh. If got TNB, what spend unnecessary 60k? 60k better put into quality material for the swiftlet. Walet don't care PV or TNB anyway.



This post has been edited by Bobby C: Sep 12 2011, 03:37 PM

No need to be apologize as I appreciate your view point. I’m trying 2 convinced my partners to conduct a ‘bird call test’ before we proceed further but they are adamant no need since the area is know to have swiftlet population.
Anyway will only get to survey the plantation end of this month so will take the 2-3 weeks to argue my point and iron out some details. Currently doing some research over the net and reading V1 of this tread (page 23, 99 pages left )

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Added on September 12, 2011, 4:05 pmBobby C – Thank for the feedback on FIT, guess put in on backburner.

This post has been edited by rakyat: Sep 12 2011, 04:05 PM

If you can see birds flying in the area, then there is no need to conduct a bird call test. However, you must be sure that it is the correct species.

A bird test will tell you if it is the right bird as look-alikes do not respond to bird call. Anyway, a bird test call is cheap, simple and quick, so when in doubt, just do it. No harm done.

Appreciate that many here to share their problems and knowledge with the rest and we truly are a lucky group.

Here, I wish to share some knowledge if your Amplifier break down or seem to be lesser in loudness.. or not sound at all; you better check for short circuit in tweeters as most of the case, it's due to the reason and most of older BHs do experience such problem as they use inferior china wire which may burn out.

Once, I went to a friend's BH and found that although all wire seem to be OK but there is a break in the middle of the wire...and that's chinese wire to you.....using all nonsense metal in the wire. Instate of searching for a needle in the haystack, better change the wire or else after repair this one, another one will break and this time, you may not be lucky cos the wire maybe shorted and thus burn your amplifier.....I have seem smoking amps and hot amps; all due to short circuit in these wire.

I may not be an electronic expert but will advice you to use condenser for the tweeters if you wish to have better output and also to protect the amp. from breakdown cos any short circuit at the tweeter will blow the condenser first and your amp will still see another day.

An experience to share with friends.

This post has been edited by West Wing: Sep 13 2011, 12:12 PM

hi, west wing, need ur good advice about this H3N1,is aroma really useful in BH???

how u think about this H3N1?
can try it?thanks if can share ur experience, they say this aroma
H3N1 dibuat dengan ramuan dari bahan-bahan alami yang sangat disukai oleh burung walet sehingga burung walet yang telah terpanggil masuk ke dalam rumah burung walet akan betah dan segera tinggal di rumah walet tersebut.

do u agree it?



http://waletindonesia.blogspot.com/2010/03...usion-h3n1.html

Hi Bobby

Totally agreed with you. All those window dressing by the media reporting all those so-called-news, only they know how many really materialise and work.

Ma Lai Si Yah Boleh

Anyone here care to share how much nests u got in bh after 3years? Need a roughly figure though. For bh with 2k nests, will the nests double after a year?

i got more than 2k in 3 years but now i got only around 3.5k nests due to the side of the
building(20x40) after 5 years. late year had extend to 3 floor.
hopefully next year will reach 5 k nests.
thank you
refer youtube megajimmywong

This post has been edited by megawong: Sep 13 2011, 07:07 PM

U from sibu? 1hour from my hometown . I got 2.4k nests in 3 years as well. Now im still on my first month of my 3rd year.

So your BH after 5 years total up 3.5k nests? The reason is because limited spaces or more competitors?

With 3.5k nests, how much kg average u can harvest each month? 4-7kg?

This post has been edited by mois: Sep 13 2011, 08:30 PM

In case you don't have the bird call song, you can get it here:

http://www.4shared.com/audio/cMzEdGH7/cek_...niawalet_ar.htm

If you have a very loud mobile phone, you can play it with your phone when you visit the site. Else get a portable mp3 player. Good luck!

2k in 3 years ?really? one month around 55 new nest .how to do thar?

west wing , is it possible???thanks

It is possible. But need abit luck though. But if 3k nests within 3 years abit impossible already.

right. im from sibu.
main reason are limited spaces and the surrounding bhs with in 200 meter.
there is nearly 15 bhs coming up in the past 2 years.
total harvest +- 7 to 8 kg per month
but the price of the nest now..........?????

Hai, i am new in swiftlet keeping, just want to know how often should we clean the bird shit? heard some sifu said we are not suppose to clean the bird shit since bird like their smell very much.....thanks for advice

I think limited spaces problem is higher than more bHs coming out. As new bird need new space. How much percent occupied before extension? 80%?

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Added on September 14, 2011, 11:07 amDepend. If new, not need clean much.

This post has been edited by mois: Sep 14 2011, 11:07 AM

[quote=mois,Sep 14 2011, 12:04 PM]
I think limited spaces problem is higher than more bHs coming out. As new bird need new space. How much percent occupied before extension? 80%?

nearly 85%