Even then, it is better than not being able to sell to China at all. Without China buying, there really isn't much economic value to BNs.

Any One here looking for land for bird house at Kuala Rompin, Pahang ? I got a land here 1Ekar+ sell for 195k. Serious buyer can contact

Ah Man 0142788168...

Any One watching the news today?
Our Lovely minister of veterinar department announce all the walet feeder,bird nest cleaning house and bird nest exporter must register to veterinar department
one month start from today.
after this , who are the big benefit of this?all the officer of veterinar department?
Who will monopoly the bird nest market at malaysia?Politician?
All this we have to thank to our lovely gentlement who is the son of our lovely MCA chairment.
What we should do to protect right? Any one here have any suggestion?

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...4625&sec=nation

As expected. Someone want to gain control of this industry. I dont think farmers need to register. It is the exporter/cleaning house that need to register as they clean and export our bird nests. Unless we are talking about exporting raw nests, then it is different.

tangsn, i think politicians get alot benefit from this. After all, they are the laws/judges in this particular corrupted country.

I had the honor of visiting a processing EBN factory in Shenzhen by the accompany of 2 malaysian buyers who take us to a tour of the factory which is very big by Malaysian standard and just average China factory.

He show us everything but not the processing part of the factory which he boosted more than 40 nests one day by each worker by his special method of cleansing. At the factory, I could see tour buses coming in to buy EBN in form of dry and bottled types and mostly all China tourists. See, we may produce the nests but the Chinese really know how to market them in China.

He invited us to invest in China to retail EBN and he can help to supply us with the processed nests. He even offered to help us to export the nest to China trouble free and all we need is a minimum of 50Kgs of raw nests and he will fly down to Malaysia and pick up the nests at our place and deliver to our destination at Guangzhou without a fee and all what is necessary is to allow him to process the nests. 50Kg @ Malaysia will be 50Kg delivered @ Guangzhou destination with all documents required if needed.

1. How 50K become 50K after processed......answer is dry during collection and 50K of 10% wet after cleaning. The problem is....is the same nests delivered @ destination
2. How he can just export the 50K nests so easily and yet we experiance so much difficulties? You may try to answer that cos I am Blind!
3. The sample bottled nests provided to us taste different to an experienced user of taking birdnest almost 3 times a week ( not that I can afford but I got the nests for FOC).

My curiosity pay off because after a KOK with him did I realised that like most of China Buz, fellowship is very improtant and guests he invited to the night fellowship include afew heads of Govt. Department in Guangzhou.....even the head incharged of taking samples of birdnests. This guy told me that the nests will be inspected at his plant. So, Corruption is everywhere and every type and every way so close one door will only open a few more doors someway else.

The Product of Malaysia documentations maybe printed in China for the Chinese by the Chinese and of the Chinese. Agreed?

Hope that the above is of help to those wanting to spread their wings in China.

Per the report above. Brilliant half wits!! Of course he was 'misquoted'.
1)Suggestion of trans-shipment as the possible loophole but doesn't address what needs to be done to regulate the transhipment.
Instead it goes into registration as a solution!!!! How one related to the other is left to one to wonder!!

2)Further more he has to add in bird flu into the broth... He doesnt realise he's displaying his ignorance.
Brilliant!!! Again one is left to wonder if he's aiding or adding salt.

3)Instead of rising above the supposedly 'issue' he has played along allowing the other side to continue framing the issue.
He could easily slipped in the scientific facts of sodium nitrite and explained it away.
Yet he goes on with freezing killing viruses and NOT explaining that sodium nitrite is water soluble and NO ONE eats EBN raw.
Again one is left wondering which side he's on.

4)Collaboration with MMC? ...he! he! must be the RFID thingy again. So the spouse of the high ranking official is still persistent.

Malaysia... a wonderful country...everything is left to one to wonder ???????

Dear WW & others expertist,

I new in this field and i got a bird house night time temperature reach 24degree. My bird house locate in the middle of jungle and cover by lot of trees. I check the external temperature at night is also 24degree. I tried to close some of the ventilation hole but not much improvement. My bird house come with 2pcs of exhaust fan, is it ok to turn the exhaust fan off? According to my Sifu, he not allow me to turn it off becoz it will affect the air flow inside. is this correct?

To me, the air circulation are mainly for us and lesser for the birds so that we don't suffocate inside the BH during our maintenance or harvesting. BIrds really can stand the Ammonia as any visit to successful Bhs will tell. If you can't, a visit to swiftlets cave would. So, no exhaust fan necessary at all for new BHs if your BH isn't hot and even V holes need to be reduced. Air circulation is for fresh air for the health of animal mostly of human origin which is very weak compare to other wild animals

My suggestion is to save your electricity on your exhaust fan and better spend it on me over a coffee and you learn more. ...just kidding hahaha.

Best of Luck to you.

By the way, a friend asked me on which is the best type of insects eggs powder and those using maybe able to help this friend although I never encourage people using such products.

ps. I really need your Exhaust fans as the ammonia really blind me at time but the birds seem to like it..........I may go and buy the WW 2 gas mask at secondhand/reject shop for my health.

anyone interested raw bird nest 80kg approximately. What is the current price in malaysia for triangle, curve and cup shape. all medium feather and above.

I cannot find any information/forms on DVS official web, for bird's nests exporter. do your guy find it?

Hi WW,

Thanks for your reply. I will try to OFF the exhaust fan this weekend, hopefully that can maintain stable temperature. Currently the temperature fluctuate from 24 degree to 30 degree.

Hi guys, what you think about location in batang berjuntai? someone invested to joint building a new BH on agriland. i've been away for too long, not familiar with the ideal location anymore.

Ya man, can't even find kursus latihan walet required by 1GP.

Best is sent email asking for schedule fo kursus also don't bother to reply.

May be still puasa mood or raya mood or post raya mood or not mood to reply till they see $$

As I see it,

Why don’t we find dangerous viruses or harmful bacterial in swiftlets guano and maybe, we have been looking into the opposite of the whole ecosystem as we are trying to find fault and danger in the swiftlet and its guano .
The swiftlets guano may have the unseen activities so crucial to our ecosystem and may have benefited in the crucial cycle in food chain or neutralization of dangerous gases. There are bad germs and viruses and there are certainly good ones and maybe, in swiftlet guano, we may find unseen activities that maybe crucial to the world ecosystem.

The swiftlets guano may contain billions of good bacteria that could help us to solve our environment like the good old birdnests that prove to benefited us. We In our conservation efforts should try to understand the guano which may help us to understand why the swiftlets do not get deadly diseases like other fowls. Maybe, the reason being that they never touch the ground so they didn’t get the diseases but also maybe they are immune to these diseases due to the good bacteria in their body and also present in their guano.

Dear Walet Sifus,

Would appreciate it if I can get some advises and pointers on the business as I have zero knowledge. Recently I came across an opportunity to invest in a BH in my hometown (Perak); this is a scheme btw 4 childhood friends where one of us has 5 acres of agricultural land which is left dormant while another friend has just ventured into Birdnest farming and actively looking for more opportunities.

Hence a business proposal is in the making where the landowner will be a 50% stakeholder while the other 3 will need to contribute RM50k each as capital. A 30 years lease will be signed and RM125k will be used to build a 2.5 storied BH with all necessary fittings. The person with experience will run supervise the overall business.

I would like to know if it is a feasible deal and what are the anticipated pitfalls? Is RM125k a reasonable price? Besides the superstructure, what other fitting should we expect to put into the BH? I know that we will need to have timber structure on the roof, PA system, love portion? ammonia and an automated humidifier; kindly advise on other preliminary fittings.

Assuming that the land price is RM40k per acre, how would other sifus structure the agreement in order to create a win-win situation (we are small towners grown up together hence do not want any party disadvantaged)

OTOH is it a good idea to install solar cells on the roof for the tarrif feed-in from TNB i.e. to sell back electricity to TNB? (the land has electricity line and TNB meter)?

Thank you very much and appreciate the feedbacks

Hi guys,

I have been quietly reading the posts here for years. I enjoy reading all the posts given by the sifus here. Thank you all for all the helpful info thus far.

Right now, I would like to ask tuckfook, or anyone from penang, where i should shop for dvr equipment in Penang.

Thank you.

Yesterday i call to state office, they ask me go to Putrajaya for registration of exporter. and i call to putrajaya yesterday, they say will forward form to state office by yesterday afternoon.

Today go to state office to enquiry, they push back to putrajaya and ask go there submit registration. @@"

i see the press release from DVS website,

i) All operators and exporters of EBN through their respective associations must
make a pledge to DVS to implement the standards as proposed in the Guideline
(1GP) with immediate effect.

ii) All operators and exporters of EBN must register their premise location and their
business particulars with DVS within one month. The registration can be done
manually at all DVS State offices and on-line. The list will be uploaded into a
designated sector of the DVS website for the reference by the industry. The DVS
in collaboration with the Malaysian Communications and Multimedia
Commission (MCMC) has established a track-and trace system to facilitate the
movement of EBN through the supply chain. [Currently there are 77 GAHP
premises (SALT), 6 GMP and 7 VHM plants]

iii) All operators and exporters of EBN are required to declare to DVS all products
produced, manufactured and exported through their businesses. The production
of colored EBN is highly prohibited and legal action will be taken against the
perpetrators.


What are they doning ??? zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
internal communicate problem ?

This post has been edited by marcus_tct: Sep 8 2011, 02:58 PM


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PLEASE DESTROY THE THOUGHT!!!

EVEN AMONGST RELATIVES THINGS ALSO TURNED VERY SOUR.

Advice : Buy land yrself and build. No $$$ ? Sit back and relax see show. Nothing to lose.

I haven't done any JV before but many of friends having JV on shoplot for a 20-25 years tenancy agreement and only cost them RM30K and here you guys have invested RM125K and the actual figure may go up much more than that if you consider other expenses.

For me, at least 50 years lease on the land will be a better term and such terms and conditions like
1. The partners shall pay the land owner a monthly rental for the land if there is no dividend after 3 years. This is to prevent the other party not doing enough to lure birds.
2. The other party may sell off his share in the JV with the blessing of the land owner.
3. The land can only be use for BH purposes only and not for other Buz to prevent the land owner being cheated.
4. Total transparency of the JV so as to ensure honesty and sincerity of the JV.

The above are what I can think off and what I would do in any such JV. Remember that the owner come out only the Land (valued @ Rm100K).

This post has been edited by West Wing: Sep 8 2011, 06:03 PM

@Rayat

The failure rate for agri land BH is very high. Last time was around 70% to 80% and now is even more higher.

Therefore there is a 80% chance, 4 childhood friends start arguing when there is no income from the JV after few years. Things like below will happen:
*some of you might stop chipping in money.
*no one bother to spend time working on the BH.
*the person doing the most work start accusing the person who didn't do anything to help.

The land owner is the most beneficial if the BH failed because he doesn't have to buy up the remaining shares in order to own the BH. Unless you guys register a Sdb Bhd and transfer the land ownership to the Sdn Bhd.