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 -= Naza-Kia Forte =- <Club> V7, Leaves You Speechless

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post May 14 2010, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(bonjourze @ May 13 2010, 04:58 PM)
Called careline just now. the girl said all those start-locating-2.0-this-friday-or-on-15th-may thingy was a rumor. Gila ape diorang nih.
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naza kia is playing. Honesty level is low. Called them up too..now said pending kastam approval. Simply incompetent if need ceo to do the job. Take too damn long to settle kastam paperwork. Bad biznes practice. It is just bad when they cant offer any visibility when to deliver the car. You think ppl will buy again from them?
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post May 14 2010, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(azliaf @ May 13 2010, 08:58 PM)
Bro, I have lost trust with my SA as well as Naza Careline. For the past 2 weeks, I keep calling them to check on 2.0 status since they promised I can get my car by end of April. Last 2 weeks my SA said that Naza just paid the excise duty, and they will start allocation the following week. He said their CEO went and paid to Kastam himself. Last week I tried to call him but don't even dare to answer my call. Only on Friday his wife (which also Naza SA but different branch) answer my call and said that this Kastam issue still not resolved. She said that Naza promised to settle it by end of this month, earliest is 15th May (this Saturday). Let's wait and see what will happen.

At the same time, I called Naza Careline to double check and every time they keep giving different answer. At first they said the car already here, but having some problem with government. Then they said still no car, and ask me to wait for 2 - 3 months. Call another time said need to wait 3 - 4 months pulak. Asking them where am I in the waiting list, said will check and call me back, but never did.

If not because of Forte, I probably won't buy from Naza. What a disappointment.
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Guys,

I just spoke to Naza careline...2 mins ago.... not AIN...but Shima... so there is more than 1 person there. tongue.gif They know I called before (when and spoke to who) and noted the empty promise.

sad.gif Now for what Naza says that worries me really a lot. Allocation is not completed yet because there is no stock to allocate from Naza factory/assembly line. WTF.... means Naza building the 2.0 already? I don't want to wait another 1-2 months and get a real 1st batch CKD car from Naza gurun plant. Imagine all the problems we (2.0 CKD 1st batch from Naza gurun will face)... will jump straigh to V10 in 1 month after our car's are released to us with problems posted... I have faith in the Koreans & KIA on their quality, mentality striving for improvement and perfection.... however no faith with Naza sales or their production.... shakehead.gif

Naturally, I asked Shima.... wait a min, I thought there is already ready stock....and its documentation (Kastam and all other bribe takers) thats holding back the 2.0 allocation. Shima reiterated the same ..."no stock to allocate from NAZA assembly" and says that this is the new standard direction and communication given by NAZA management.

icon_question.gif Really don't know what to do now....... can other people here please call NAZA careline and check and post their results here.....

Bros who just got the 1.6 SX (post April 2010),

Can you all help to let me know whether your 1.6SX are actually CBU but declared CKD... can check the serial numbers?







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post May 14 2010, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(duck_lord @ May 14 2010, 01:34 PM)
naza kia is playing. Honesty level is low. Called them up too..now said pending kastam approval. Simply incompetent if need ceo to do the job. Take too damn long to settle kastam paperwork. Bad biznes practice. It is just bad when they cant offer any visibility when to deliver the car. You think ppl will buy again from them?
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totally agree. this is my first...probably my last. only coz of Forte... else... blink.gif mad.gif
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post May 14 2010, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(bmkia @ May 14 2010, 01:35 PM)
Guys,

I just spoke to Naza careline...2 mins ago.... not AIN...but Shima... so there is more than 1 person there.  tongue.gif  They know I called before (when and spoke to who) and noted the empty promise.

sad.gif  Now for what Naza says that worries me really a lot. Allocation is not completed yet because there is no stock to allocate from Naza factory/assembly line. WTF.... means Naza building the 2.0 already? I don't want to wait another 1-2 months and get a real 1st batch CKD car from Naza gurun plant. Imagine all the problems we (2.0 CKD 1st batch from Naza gurun will face)... will jump straigh to V10 in 1 month after our car's are released to us with problems posted... I have faith in the Koreans & KIA on their quality, mentality striving for improvement and perfection.... however no faith with Naza sales or their production....  shakehead.gif

Naturally, I asked Shima.... wait a min, I thought there is already ready stock....and its documentation (Kastam and all other bribe takers) thats holding back the 2.0 allocation. Shima reiterated the same ..."no stock to allocate from NAZA assembly" and says that this is the new standard direction and communication given by NAZA management.

icon_question.gif  Really don't know what to do now....... can other people here please call NAZA careline and check and post their results here.....

Bros who just got the 1.6 SX (post April 2010),

Can you all help to let me know whether your 1.6SX are actually CBU but declared CKD... can check the serial numbers?
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this is why i said naza kia is playing us. No honesty.
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post May 14 2010, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(yhlee12 @ May 13 2010, 10:56 PM)
bro... the car delivery nightmare is a never ending story... probably till the day production in gurun starts but nobody has any clue when it's gonna happen so as of now all the troubles r with gamen.

if u r not in a hurry, then wait lo. otherwise no harm for u to explore other options... besides i'm sure u have considered lots of things b4 deciding to buy this car. it's a matter of months to wait for the car that u will drive for years to come. just ask bro izputra and some other 2.0 for their classic stories.
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Hi,

Yeah...we all knew who you guys suffered with the long wait (and run around with Naza) ...but in the end its a good thing... you guys waited patiently for a good CBU Korean car... rclxms.gif

For us, its a different game now.... we are waiting for a car.... not sure whether its assembled by NAZA or not. rclxub.gif Would you wait 4-5 months for a 1st batch assembled car by NAZA? sad.gif




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post May 14 2010, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(allic @ May 14 2010, 12:11 PM)
anyone installed the door visor on ur forte? Will it be noisy (wind noise) when you go high speed?
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yes.. wind noise is more noticeable when u run more than 100km/h.
but still acceptable, it's just reasonable wind noise.
my old car more noisy la even without visor.
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post May 14 2010, 01:51 PM

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any chance who know this car belong to any of member here?

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FYI, there's a complaint.....

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1053032/+160#



This post has been edited by danieloo: May 14 2010, 01:52 PM
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post May 14 2010, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(duck_lord @ May 14 2010, 01:34 PM)
naza kia is playing. Honesty level is low. Called them up too..now said pending kastam approval. Simply incompetent if need ceo to do the job. Take too damn long to settle kastam paperwork. Bad biznes practice. It is just bad when they cant offer any visibility when to deliver the car. You think ppl will buy again from them?
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To those who have booked and still waiting for the cars,

We have experienced the same. We even book the car before it was launched, and some more that time Naza made it pre-launch booking can get car faster kind of impression, but eventually we have waited for 3-4 months only get the car, especially 2.0.

No doubt about the way that Naza is doing the business, but if you have faith on the Forte quality after reading so many comments from the forums, it is worth the wait.

Unless you think that T&H can give you a shorter waiting period with that kind of price, definitely you can go ahead.

We have been through the pain and the frustration and even booked the car without seeing, testing the real car.

Eventually, it does potong steam a bit, but the car is simply impressive and worth the wait.

Trust me.
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post May 14 2010, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(danieloo @ May 14 2010, 01:51 PM)
any chance who know this car belong to any of member here?

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FYI, there's a complaint.....

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1053032/+160#
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even it may be one of ppl in lyn... i still want to scold... what an idiot parking his car like that!!!!!! mad.gif
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post May 14 2010, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(twtang @ May 14 2010, 02:12 PM)
To those who have booked and still waiting for the cars,

We have experienced the same. We even book the car before it was launched, and some more that time Naza made it pre-launch booking can get car faster kind of impression, but eventually we have waited for 3-4 months only get the car, especially 2.0.

No doubt about the way that Naza is doing the business, but if you have faith on the Forte quality after reading so many comments from the forums, it is worth the wait.

Unless you think that T&H can give you a shorter waiting period with that kind of price, definitely you can go ahead.

We have been through the pain and the frustration and even booked the car without seeing, testing the real car.

Eventually, it does potong steam a bit, but the car is simply impressive and worth the wait.

Trust me.
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Added on May 14, 2010, 2:33 pm
QUOTE(phelix @ May 14 2010, 01:43 PM)
yes.. wind noise is more noticeable when u run more than 100km/h.
but still acceptable, it's just reasonable wind noise.
my old car more noisy la even without visor.
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wat's your old car?

This post has been edited by Taman Negara: May 14 2010, 02:33 PM
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post May 14 2010, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(toytoy @ May 14 2010, 09:47 AM)
My case, booked on 2nd Feb, SA PROMISED i can get car b4 CNY. So you can imagine my frustration hehe.
Sigh...
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tat's the SA issue... they all wanna close sales and to do tat, simply giving empty promises.
i thought in 2010 careline already mention waiting period... even though it's not consistent but it's something like 2 - 4 months kinda stuff.

QUOTE(bmkia @ May 14 2010, 01:41 PM)
For us, its a different game now.... we are waiting for a car.... not sure whether its assembled by NAZA or not.  rclxub.gif  Would you wait 4-5 months for a 1st batch assembled car by NAZA?  sad.gif
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hmmm... i still believe that production line in gurun is not quite ready to roll out the car so all new cars to be delivered these 2 months (if they got car to deliver la) will still be... u know wat i mean smile.gif anyone got insider news? got near to the gurun plant?

we had this discussion back then... and point of reference was the peugeot 308. assembled in malaysia with solid build quality.

QUOTE(lwkong @ May 14 2010, 02:16 PM)
even it may be one of ppl in lyn... i still want to scold... what an idiot parking his car like that!!!!!!  mad.gif
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yeah... wat an idiot... i'll be darn vmad.gif too

This post has been edited by yhlee12: May 14 2010, 02:37 PM
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post May 14 2010, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(yhlee12 @ May 14 2010, 02:35 PM)
tat's the SA issue... they all wanna close sales and to do tat, simply giving empty promises.
i thought in 2010 careline already mention waiting period... even though it's not consistent but it's something like 2 - 4 months kinda stuff.
hmmm... i still believe that production line in gurun is not quite ready to roll out the car so all new cars to be delivered these 2 months (if they got car to deliver la) will still be... u know wat i mean smile.gif anyone got insider news? got near to the gurun plant?

we had this discussion back then... and point of reference was the peugeot 308. assembled in malaysia with solid build quality.
yeah... wat an idiot... i'll be darn  vmad.gif  too
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I really don't blame/ fault the SA, I think all the NAZA SAs and even branch managers are fed with wrong/ vague information from the top (Careline was never consistent to begin with). SA's are usually like pawns in a chess game in NAZA's case. So guys out there, don't mistreat your SA's ya.


Hope its true.... SKD Semi Knocked Down 2.0... 1 container with 4 doors and Kia emblem and separate container with the car without 4 doors and Kia emblem unsure.gif








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post May 14 2010, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(danieloo @ May 14 2010, 01:51 PM)
any chance who know this car belong to any of member here?

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FYI, there's a complaint.....

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1053032/+160#
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Yes. Agreed. He or she has "memalukan" other forte members here.
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Whitey WTP49XX owner is here? u angkat tangan, i angkat tangan. but no myforte sticker on your side. damn stuck at Rothman roundabout just now.

errr.. wonder why your rear view mirror is totally different. its rectangular in shape and not curve. is it CKD? or mirror with Camera display or mirror with GPS?
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QUOTE(danieloo @ May 14 2010, 01:51 PM)
any chance who know this car belong to any of member here?

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FYI, there's a complaint.....

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1053032/+160#
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walao~ how can la park like that...
i also hate people parking like that...
too selfish..

QUOTE(lwkong @ May 14 2010, 02:16 PM)
even it may be one of ppl in lyn... i still want to scold... what an idiot parking his car like that!!!!!!  mad.gif
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+1

QUOTE(Taman Negara @ May 14 2010, 02:33 PM)
gua sapot sama lu. so, tunggu-lah


Added on May 14, 2010, 2:33 pm
wat's your old car?
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Proton Gen2 first batch! deng deng!
i got the same cargasm when i first got the car. brows.gif
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Saw 1 forte park in front of my wira, WTR 4486, red King Long emblem, the back one kena korek oredi.. kesian.. anyone here with that no. plate?
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Korek means scratch?quite common now - better park at safe area and near guards if possible -
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Anyone got problem with their paintwork as my developed a small dot with a bulge as I suspect it is developing rust. When I collected the car over a month ago the surface was smooth. I have informed the SA and he has taken a picture of it. I heard of rust proofing problem but my is at the door.
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QUOTE(toytoy @ May 14 2010, 09:47 AM)
I agree cars have to wait.

To most of us who booked early it's not the fact that we cannot wait it's becoz we were given empty promises, that's why we're so pissed. If they told us we have to wait 4 mths then ok lah since i agreed to wait.

My case, booked on 2nd Feb, SA PROMISED i can get car b4 CNY. So you can imagine my frustration hehe.

Sigh...
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very clear your SA is FFK on you ..... I booked mine before it was launch only got it during CNY so about 3-4 months of waiting period.


Added on May 14, 2010, 4:55 pm
QUOTE(izputra @ May 14 2010, 09:34 AM)
Agreed..it is worth the wait. Buying other car also need to wait. Last time when i was about to give up on Forte, i also seeking around for another options like Civic, Sylphy, Lancer only to find out that no ready stock for these cars also. Civic 2.0 have to wait around 2 months, Sylphy also got 1-2 month of waiting. Since all other cars also need to wait to get it, i decided to just stick with Forte. Forte got the best package after all.

p/s : my father bought the new facelifted Vios on early April, but till now (about 1 & a half month), still didn't get his car. So the moral of the story here is NEW CAR=HAVE TO WAIT (of course not applicable for all new cars lerr..) unless u opt for a low demand car i.e. Perdana, i30, avante


Added on May 14, 2010, 9:43 am
This Link might help...
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have family member going for Accord have to wait as well, about 3 months - but at least Honda gave a better date of estimation which can be rely on


Added on May 14, 2010, 5:00 pmNOTE when the wait is over you'll start to enjoy the car ... thou there's some issue to take note with but generally most of the members are enjoying their ride.

btw Naza only able to deliver 500 - 600 max of cars per month , hope their SA don't over commit else they will get bullets !
Or Naza increase on orders from KIA (KIA is currently finding hard to coupe with global demand)




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QUOTE(limeuu @ May 13 2010, 03:50 PM)
still have not figured how to install the back wheel mudguards..........anyone has any ideas?......

the smallest screw driver i can find is still too long to fit........
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No worries.!!! I have managed to find special tool for installing the mudflaps easily.....
Just look around at your area hardware shops.
Yet to install the mudflaps but have tested out using this tool, workable !!

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