nice to see u too...lol

yup...solutions are there.
the issue is whether one wants to explore the different solutions given out there or he/she rather be a coward by not facing the problem.

after searching and studying all of this theory of happiness. what happens next? do we experience or encounter this after we die?

because in that case, we wont have much time to go through this once we're dead. the furthest we can go would be a 100. even so, death can come at any time.

This post has been edited by jasonbourne222: May 25 2010, 09:23 PM

so do u think we must first face problems before we be happy? In other words...is unhappiness a prequisite for happiness? the real topic of debate on this thread.

ok...hmmm
well, i dont think so.

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Added on May 25, 2010, 9:28 pmmy POV- we will neither experience happiness or unhappiness because death is the end of it.

This post has been edited by vivienne85: May 25 2010, 09:28 PM

clever girl

happiness? is it by having all these material possession = cars,money,house,planes,boat,women ?

so therefore, if we dont have any of that, does that mean we wont be happy? Its just that we've been 'programmed' and told to believe that by having and consuming all of this that we will achieve "true" happiness. Yes, we see it everyday in the newspaper, television, internet, adverts and so on. Basically, we dont even know what we want.

You see, if one person can say, i dont need a luxurious house, a fancy car , a supermodel , or 10 million in the bank to be happy. What do you say to people like that? You would say "wow, youre missing a lot" or "Didnt you study finance in school?"

So, base on what TS have mentioned earlier, we tend to find "problems" or things to do to stimulate temporary happiness. Sports, activities, music, art, gaming, blogging, etc. What we dont realize that its just a substance. In fact, we do know lol. A "drug" to keep us moving forward.

So, what makes you happy? Which is your drug?

happiness is simply the absence of unhappiness. adi say so many times liau.

Sadness is not necessarily needed for happiness, but it sure helps you to understand and appreciate happiness than its original value, i.e. like how some call it: "thy true happiness".

Think about it. A world where sadness simply does not exist. Everyone's joyful and jumping around, and laughing and stuff.

But the problem is, with such a society where sadness is not possible, why will one even bother with the question: "Are you happy?"

And since no one bothers about such a question, why should one bother with the word: "happy", a term to describe a specific, human emotion?

And since no one bothers about this "happy" word, isn't the word "happy" simply just vestigial word? An emotion that is so common (since there aren't any sadness available in the world) that people are simply living their lives without knowing what being "happy" really means? Will that then, means, that a world without sadness will simply be a world that is simply voided of all emotions, simply "happiness" is simply valued as something "common", and "mundane"?

This post has been edited by Deadlocks: May 30 2010, 11:50 AM

anyone know anything bout bumi armada

What's that?

bumi armada berhad , yes
but what does it have to do with this thread ?

u think too much. the existence of sadness for happiness to make sense DOES NOT make the former a prerequisite to achieve the latter. He can merely choose to understand sadness once...and if he is wise enough...he would choose not to experience it again and live happily ever after.

and how would you understand sadness without experiencing it?

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Added on May 30, 2010, 10:35 pmyou must not have known our RWI/PHDS resident ad-hominem troll very well.

This post has been edited by lin00b: May 30 2010, 10:35 PM

u dont have to jump off the building to know it will kill u.

yes, books tell me that, but i have yet to find a book that adequately explain feelings like sad, love, etc

as well as feelings are not such discrete and fixed properties that different people experience it the same way for the same event. heck the same people might have different feeling about the same event at different point of life.

bad analogy much?

poor understand much?

are books the only way u learn things? do u lack basic observatory skills? what about empathy? u can experience sadness without being really sad u know.

This post has been edited by teongpeng: May 30 2010, 11:42 PM

No I don't but if its like any forum I've been to, the place won't be complete without one.

Chemically there is a basis on which medication like prozac is made but beyond that, I don't think you ever will find an academic explanation on something so subjective.

uh huh, yeah right, please give some examples.

experience sadness = being sad.

yes. but without a real niggling reason to remain sad, one can quickly switch it off. its not real.

so sadness now is defined by the time period? sad is sad, stop twisting about.