so here's my story i am abit lost right now and i hope u guys could point me to the right direction

a year ago i weight at 108kg and after doing cardio for the whole period i manage to drop my weight to 83kg.I started going to the gym nearly 3months ago combining strength trainning and cardio and now stand at 75kg..my height is 178cm

but i have fats around my belly and under my arm..i know that there's no spot reduction so here's my dilemma people have been telling me i should maintain my calorie intake in order to maintain my weight while building mass...or should i lower my calorie intake and lose fat 1st?

i go to the gym 6 days per week playing different parts each day before i do weight activities i start with a 20mins cardio excercise. so comes to my next question is it possible to lose fats while gaining muscle mass?

to sum it all should i stay at 75kg or should i lower it to 70kg? bcoz people keep telling me jangan bagi kurang lagi
i still have approximately 120days -150days to get myself in shape
im the guy on the right with long hair when i was 108kg




this is me currently taken a few minutes ago



thx for ur help! i appreciate it ALOT

p.s i read something about doing lighter weight and something about cutting

should i do lighter weight or should i keep up with im doing now bcoz if my body(especially my arms)is in a relaxed state it seems like i dun have any muscle and i could only see fats

This post has been edited by mycronologix: Apr 26 2010, 03:36 AM

exercise loss fat but gain muscle
muscle=weight
not exactly u r in shape but out of weight
wats ur bmi?

my bmi is 23.7

so what do u reckon i should do

"not exactly u r in shape but out of weight" could u elaborate more? thx appreciate ur help

means when u exersice more u gain muscle
gain muscle is gaining weight too
not like ur weig is 100+ then aftr exrsz 76+
exrsz some more 50+
not like u geting thinner
if ur weig is 50+ when u exsz can gain 60+
it is bcoz of the muscle u build

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Added on April 26, 2010, 4:03 ambetter get in shape
less calorie intake coz u got fat to los

This post has been edited by yummydummy: Apr 26 2010, 04:03 AM

thx man for ur help!

no worries

Can't understand what you mean???



mycronologix,

What's your goal?Thin as a stick or muscular build?

If stick then continue whatever you're doing

If muscular then stop playing with weights and get yourself a beginners routine from 1 of the stickies.(Rippetoe is an example)

What's your diet like?

i would vote to agree with pedro. y get stressed up with what other people comment about your body? Its your body after all, not theirs. Set your goal first, then it would be easy to proceed.

to thread starter,

many of us here cannot provide good advice since we are not sure what ur goal is
so before u make up your mind about lifting weights or cardio, set your goal first
then all the important things like diet and kind of routine will fall in place
research bro and stick to the basics yo!

good luck

thx guys for the reply

i dun wan to get thin as a pencil..

im trying to build muscle mass and get my bodyfat % down at the same time


-pedro my diet is something like dis

2half boiled eggs for breakfast and a soya bean milk

lunch rice,veggies,chicken or meat


everyday after workout i drink 2scoops of ON whey protein


dinner i only eat meat(either chicken,fish,or beef) eggs and fries and a soya bean milk

before sleep i eat a low fat yogurt

should i be consuming the whites only or with yolk everday seeing dat i eat like 4-5 eggs a days

This post has been edited by mycronologix: Apr 26 2010, 11:18 AM

let me make it easy..
muscle is much heavier than FAT!
so when u come across to some level.. u will losing fat, yet ur weight will increase or remain the same.. because u gaining muscle.
that what i hv been told my trainer. heheee

yeap people have been telling me dis too..

but when i was 83kg(1st time i started going to gym)my weight dropped to 75 but i gain a slight amount of muscle mass

Cut the fries and introduce fish to your diet!
Eat more egg whites.

You should start a basic routine and forget about your weight for now.

thx man for the advice!

+1

+2
weight is not a really good indicator IMHO. let the mirror be your judge

i think you just need to gain some more muscle mass. y listen to ppl. i think youre ok la dude

thx for the advice everyone...one more thing im currently taking ON WHEY protein...

currently im taking 2 scoops after gym..can i increase the scoops to get the protein i need?

or should i switch to pro complex

i've tried bsn syntha-6 and am switching between products to see which fits well

This post has been edited by mycronologix: Apr 26 2010, 06:36 PM

I weight at 112KG / 245 pounds., yes, its not a good indicator.
let the mirror be the judge. =)

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Added on April 26, 2010, 6:55 pmare you sure with your current state you will need that extra protein?
sure u can take as many scoop as u want but whether it is necessary or not that is another thing.
those axcess protein will make u poop poop and your farts is worst than a gas chamber.

This post has been edited by ReonLim83: Apr 26 2010, 06:55 PM

no, u cant fully utilize too much of protein in one go. Try spreading them out throughout the day. i suggest u take 1 scoop every morning, and 1 scoop pre-workout, 2 scoop post workout, and 1 scoop between meals.