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English Clubs Liverpool Football Club- The Kop Talks 2010, Hodgson in the house!

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post Apr 22 2010, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Apr 22 2010, 12:06 PM)
My lineup prediction:


Reina

Glenny---Carra---SotoNG---Agger

---------Masch-------Lucas----------

Benny--------Gerrard-----------Babel

---------------Kuyt----------------------


Btw, what's the time for tonight's match? blink.gif
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i'm wondering, if babel given striker position is a better idea, with kuyt at right, benni at left hmm.gif
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post Apr 22 2010, 02:04 PM

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Agger cant be our solution to LB. he is a CB and it will only be a matter of time before he starts beh-song. get a good LB and solve our problem once and for all. after all, Agger is supposed to be our future CB alonside skrtel. the greek aint gonna be there long and have suspect games for us.

dont know the jovanovic guy. as far as i am concerned, i dont think you can win league titles with free transfer players
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post Apr 22 2010, 02:24 PM

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whatever happened to Fabio?
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QUOTE(SiriuslyCold @ Apr 22 2010, 02:24 PM)
whatever happened to Fabio?
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Injured and his contract ends this summer.No talks of renewal yet.Most likely losing him on free. sad.gif
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QUOTE(Petre @ Apr 22 2010, 02:04 PM)
Agger cant be our solution to LB. he is a CB and it will only be a matter of time before he starts beh-song. get a good LB and solve our problem once and for all. after all, Agger is supposed to be our future CB alonside skrtel. the greek aint gonna be there long and have suspect games for us.

dont know the jovanovic guy. as far as i am concerned, i dont think you can win league titles with free transfer players
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i wuld not spend more than 10m for LB... pure waste.. 30m side back almost only noe how to atk then forget how to defend well... see how sux alves defending when against pure grade team like inter
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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Apr 22 2010, 04:20 PM)
i wuld not spend more than 10m for LB... pure waste.. 30m side back almost only noe how to atk then forget how to defend well... see how sux alves defending when against pure grade team like inter
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Waste of money? Dude, don't you know he was an integral part of the Barcelona team that won the historic treble? Like most attacking fullbacks, Alves' defending can be a little suspect at times but 90% of the time you're not playing an Inter or a strong side. To be fair to him, Barca was poor all over the pitch in that night.

Don't judge a player based on performance of one match.
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post Apr 22 2010, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Apr 22 2010, 04:20 PM)
i wuld not spend more than 10m for LB... pure waste.. 30m side back almost only noe how to atk then forget how to defend well... see how sux alves defending when against pure grade team like inter
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We all know Johnson is about as good in defense as say... Torres, but to say that players of his and Alves' nature are a waste of money shows that you my good sir are an idiot.

PS. Congratulations. You must be one of the first persons I have directly insulted here in this thread, but your constant spout of bullcrap every single day is really really starting to grate.

This post has been edited by madmoz: Apr 22 2010, 05:56 PM
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Apr 22 2010, 04:10 PM)
Injured and his contract ends this summer.No talks of renewal yet.Most likely losing him on free. sad.gif
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My opinon,
The way Liv managing players contract need to be reviewed. It is not the first time, Liv cannot generate good transfer fee due to contract near expire issue, previously Owen also similar case.

If the player don't want to renew the contract when contract approaching near like 2 years or less, then some key decision need to be done.

Keep on spending money to buy player, but always lose player with cheap and free transfer will affect the club financially, especially Liv doesn't have big budget nor financially very strong to compete with others.
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Dunno whether this has been posted before or not...but check this video out about Torres being quizzed:

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/eseason/Features...es-L-18451.php3

Torres actually do love the club by the number of correct answers he get! biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(madmoz @ Apr 22 2010, 05:54 PM)
We all know Johnson is about as good in defense as say... Torres, but to say that players of his and Alves' nature are a waste of money shows that you my good sir are an idiot.

PS. Congratulations. You must be one of the first persons I have directly insulted here in this thread, but your constant spout of bullcrap every single day is really really starting to grate.
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so u wanna throw another 20m LB then? then go on.. carra is slow.. other CB is inconsistent..our defend will turn from shit to bulshit... most of scored concede is created from left and scored from right... thre's no nid having 2 two attakin SB in a team cz all attkin SB is sux in covering their zone..agger can do really well as a SB till aurelio is fit...

and yes spendin 20m for position tat can only support 30% of atakin and reducing 30% defence is pretty much waste rather than 20m for wide player/scorer who can be the match winner

i duno like to insult ppl like u cz i can easily get banned.. duno why

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Okay, now that i have 'lepas stim' a bit, I apologize for my earlier outburst.

Not to sound elitist or anything, but the quality of this thread been steadily going down the drain. Very few of the old regulars bother to post at all nowadays. Why?

Because of the amount of nonsense that gets posted in here. You newer guys can definitely contribute if you self censor your spam. Is there a need to post knee jerk reactions? Is there a need to insult the players? Is there a need to recycle the views and opinions of the general press? NO.

When you want to say something, think about it objectively, and present a solid argument to support your views. I'm ok with the one liners during matches (would be better if we had online beer as well laugh.gif) but during the lull between matches I miss the times when we would 'argue' amongst ourselves about all things Liverpool.

Having gotten that off my chest, I would like to sadly announce to you guys that Stockport County has unfortunately been relegated once again cry.gif which is the expected outcome when you've only won 5 matches all season. Damn.

On the other hand, I do not really understand why Johnson is such a wimp at what he is nominally supposed to do, being a defender and all. He seems to be relatively speedy and with good stamina. He has no problems bombing up and down the flanks (unlike Insua, who unfortunately moves about as fast as an underpowered SUV), is a strong looking muscular and aggresive lad (again, unlike Insua who looks like a slightly pudgy, whiny teenager a.k.a. Ron in HP, which i am sure he is not) YET Insua is about as capable a defender as he is!!! At least Insua has an excuse to be caught out of position!!! I would have expected that Rafa to have drilled some discipline into Johnson by now sad.gif


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QUOTE(madmoz @ Apr 22 2010, 06:36 PM)
Okay, now that i have 'lepas stim' a bit, I apologize for my earlier outburst.

Not to sound elitist or anything, but the quality of this thread been steadily going down the drain. Very few of the old regulars bother to post at all nowadays. Why?

Because of the amount of nonsense that gets posted in here. You newer guys can definitely contribute if you self censor your spam. Is there a need to post knee jerk reactions? Is there a need to insult the players? Is there a need to recycle the views and opinions of the general press? NO.
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it's no use to spam here cz it never add my post doh.gif
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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ Apr 22 2010, 05:33 PM)
Waste of money? Dude, don't you know he was an integral part of the Barcelona team that won the historic treble? Like most attacking fullbacks, Alves' defending can be a little suspect at times but 90% of the time you're not playing an Inter or a strong side. To be fair to him, Barca was poor all over the pitch in that night.

Don't judge a player based on performance of one match.
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This.

It was joked that in the past if you were a brute with no skills you were made to play centerback. If you were Gary Neville a short brute with no skills you were told to be the left/right backs laugh.gif

Back to the bolded part though, I cannot agree more. Attacking fullbacks might well be flat track bullies, but a team of Liverpool's stature and quality (on paper at least) is expected to face inferior opposition more often than not! And we were all asking for a quality attacking right back to complement Kuyt - who, let's be honest here, you do not want to be playing up top as the goal's here are much smalletr than they are in Holland brows.gif and will also never be dropped on account of him being Rafa's fav plaything.

If anyone is to be at fault, Rafa should be blamed for not being able to tailor his tactics to bring out the best from his squad, much like him trying to play last season's formation sans Alonso. Marks of a tactical genius? shakehead.gif I think not.


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QUOTE(shogunkeron @ Apr 22 2010, 06:45 PM)
it's no use to spam here cz it never add my post  doh.gif
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I do hope you are trying to lighten up the mood, but have you realised that we actually have more one liners in here AFTER they disabled the post count?

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i dun like hangin in football sec cz it's sometime boring.. mostly hang on kopitiam & real world sec cz it purely joke in there..

the purely boring part here is mostly same player like lucas / ngok / insua will always get flamed here (includin me) no matter wat dey do

nogg shot is terrible
lucas nothin to offer
insua always missin defence line
babel is dumb

tat's really norm for norm young player.. if wan train a young player to become top we must faced this kind of challenge.. dey onli nid a constant performance to forged up their weak point.. 2-3 season constant play dey'll either turn good or world class..
torres played since he was 17/18 aged in athelico and only score a few goal for his 1st few season in athelico before he turn good

so wan a forged player better support chelsea cz dey'll directly go for ribery instead of trainin their youngster

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does we oso nid defender.. letting concede 4goals is tooooo bad for team like us


I think we do not need to add defender..The only thing is how to get the right combination on two center-back. I love watching agger with skrtel/krygkos combined which will push carragher on right back.

my vote striker..we need additional striker badly..
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QUOTE(malekmb @ Apr 22 2010, 08:37 PM)
I think we do not need to add defender..The only thing is how to get the right combination on two center-back. I love watching agger with skrtel/krygkos combined which will push carragher on right back.

my vote striker..we need additional striker badly..
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did u the one said if we concede 3goal n scored 4goal still we can get 3pts something like tat???
if yes them i wanna comment on ur post tats all... conceding 3goal is unacceptable for a big team n thre's must be prob with if tat happened.. even the striker score 4goal then u opponet rescored another 2goal mean u team lose 5-4 sweat.gif

anyway i agree this idea.. we dun really nid a new defender cz we oredi got many now like i posted b4
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we have the complete squad imo..

whats wrong if we put agger as left back??

we still have ayala smile.gif.. the lads good imo..

central/attacking midfield we have gerrard and aquaman
defensive midfield we have masch and lucas.. reserve wise we have plesis smile.gif

wings we have babel,yossi,el-zhar,pacheco..

fowards .. kuyt,torres

imo liverpool right now is like a very creative team if u know how to use it.. example..

if we play 4-4-1-1

glen - carra - agger - insua
kuyt - masch - aquaman - babel
-gerrard -
-torres -

you can put this formation while we are attacking with the ball in our possesion

masch - carra - agger
glen - aquaman - insua
gerrard - kuyt - babel
torres

we've got 2 good centrebacks .. carragher and agger.. not to mention mascherano too while playing defensively..
aurelio imo is a tad better than insua while defending..

i wanna see nemeth play first before adding that we need a striker
seeing reira go was bad already for the club doh.gif

why can't benitez see this doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

this is actually how barca plays the ball imo.. or something similiar..

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QUOTE(madmoz @ Apr 22 2010, 06:45 PM)
This.

It was joked that in the past if you were a brute with no skills you were made to play centerback. If you were Gary Neville a short brute with no skills you were told to be the left/right backs  laugh.gif 

Back to the bolded part though, I cannot agree more. Attacking fullbacks might well be flat track bullies, but a team of Liverpool's stature and quality (on paper at least) is expected to face inferior opposition more often than not! And we were all asking for a quality attacking right back to complement Kuyt - who, let's be honest here, you do not want to be playing up top as the goal's here are much smalletr than they are in Holland  brows.gif  and will also never be dropped on account of him being Rafa's fav plaything.

If anyone is to be at fault, Rafa should be blamed for not being able to tailor his tactics to bring out the best from his squad, much like him trying to play last season's formation sans Alonso. Marks of a tactical genius?  shakehead.gif  I think not.
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To add on, an attacking fullback will make the opposition winger think twice whether to move forward or track back. You're right, Rafa seems to get the right kind of players but seem to fail in getting the best out of them.

I know this has been mentioned before, but the fake Lucas twitter is class!
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Rafas shoes need to go to the local cobblers. Pushed past Insua to grab them. Dirk ran, dived and got em. Doesnt have that pace on the pitch laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif 
Don't know who brought the football on board, Masch has started repeatedly trying to slide tackle it. Like a bull to a red cloth... thumbup.gif 

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QUOTE(Fyrekat @ Apr 22 2010, 12:30 PM)
ATL MADRID VS LIVERPOOL

Channel:  Astro SuperSport (811)
Date:  Friday, April 23, 2010
Time:  3:00:00 AM
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Thanks for the info. Astro website doesn't say anything about the match. doh.gif

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