nice STF

but my 85/1.4 oso not bad

OMG! That's nice!!!

I think I have to stop buying anymore accessories for now... wait my wife will ketuk my kepala.....

Hmmm.... maybe I should get a reflector set....

haha but according your suites I think 50mm F1.8 is enough hence you're not intend towards for Full Frame ... and also F1.4 wasn't seems to be fully utilize it at all the time

got it... edited. thanks.

shootkk & vikingw2k : Got war happening eh?

albnok : The bokeh of the STF makes me wanna go to sleep and dream. XD

shukrie : Nice colours! Love the blue of the sky!

Everyone : RM670 for a VG-C70AM , worth it?

cjlai - why you use flash + ISO1600 la?

No offense, but the shots doesn't show the true potential of a 85mm f1.4.

50mm f1.8 will never be enough. You'll struggle hard in low lit area

Nah, why should I. I'm just merely commenting on pictures.

well but in sony range ... I think two of them shares the commons in image quality (I think maybe the differences was the sharpness) while as for aperture, well F1.4 was too shallow by the way ...

albnok, sure will let u play with the sigma once i have it and at next tt
also thanks for the explaination and pic, i kinda like the stf version more than the CZ one..guess next on the list instead of G zoom lens, i guess i will target prime again....

why so? because not enough bokeh or what?

if f1.8 struggle then i don't see f1.4 can be any better. just very slightly better but it's already too dark, the DOF may not be sufficient as well.

that time is flash time liao lor.

goldfries : Hahahaha what vikingw2k is trying to say is, go for Canon's f1.2. XD Oh well, what can I say about primes? I'm a prime-less man. ):

goldfries, flash with AF then no hunting lo

i wanna play sigma prime...

eh you referring to my post about cjlai's photo?

my thought is why pump ISO to 1600 when using flash ............ other than the thought of TTL + lower flash power needed.

If I'm firing flash, I'd go ISO400 - 800 range. perhaps he's got other reasons, I'm just curious.

pumping ISO when using flash coz he wanna absorb more ambient light....

Yea, the bokeh and sharpness.

Not really, 50mm f1.8 at f1.8 is very teh soft, hence you have to step down a lot to get sharper image where else if you get 50mm f1.4 you don't need to step down a lot and your image won't go too dark. Certain primes are even better that it's sharp at wide open, and that helps a heap cause you don't need to step down a lot to get sharp images.

Once you taste prime, you'll never go back to zoom unless for convenience. My zooms stays inside my cupboard most of the time.

Siggy 30mm f1.4 and Siggy 50mm f1.4

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Added on April 19, 2010, 5:56 pmYes, neo_lam got the point. Firing flash thinking that it'll help to compensate your ISO is wrong thing. You'll end up with PnS-like shots where you have the subject brightly lit surrounded by dark background. ISO helps to preserve the ambient lighting.

This post has been edited by vikingw2k: Apr 19 2010, 05:56 PM

vikingw2k: yo dude, cool it off, its a waste of time to argue. u know this better then anyone else. shootkk is just trying to share his share of PCfair picture for people like me who cant go (from s'wak) not everyone has time to edit or pro in photoshop. a pic is better then nothing

shootkk: dont waste ur time arguing when u can spend more on shooting or editing, or maybe many other more meaning full stuff. cool okay? as long as u DO know that ur WB is a little off(or maybe a lot) and u DO know how to postprocess (or preprocess - set before shoot), then there is no point to this argument. stay cool, waiting for more pcfair pics!


cool guys, alright? no point proving who is right, coz some ppl like nice ambient, some like Pure white, even my wedding client sometimes like warmer, some like purewhite, i spend extra 10 hours just to convert ALL of them viceversa. cool?

zstan: there is not right or wrong in what WB u get or use in ur photo, but just that, WB should always show white as white.

my comment:

pic#1 : really too blue, but it can show as a nice cool feel of a person enjoying coffee beside a window with sunlight(noon) casting in. (still too blue)
pic#2 : arent it same as pic #1? or u linked the wrong pic?
pic#3 : too warm, it shows u are in very tungsten lit area.
pic#4 : i like the warm color, it portray good atmosphere, but if to talk bout WB, its not white yet, but near...
pic#5 : same as above
pic#6 : to me, its bluecast (too cool)

pure white should be between pic#5 and pic#6.

usually, ppl shoot as accurate WB, this way, u still have a original white WB to edit, then adjust to the color effect to their liking,

if u were to shoot something too warm, sometime, it cant be recovered back to white, and editing might take too much time or unable to get a good edit result

its a matter of preference.


kmarc: reflector require help from friends to carry and adjust it, and require ur subject (model) to be still. mmm, not going to work. just shoot with what u have... later really not only wife, baby maya also ketuk ur head

Kul | Mo0: good price! grab it quick! (ehem, i recall something about u saying..............................)


vikingw2k: i think body plays a big role here, lot of us owns A2/3 series, which has unacceptable iso800/1600, hence not anyone would understand why we need iso1600
with enough distance (u and subject), F1.4 still give a sufficient DOF and sharpness, but we have to careful with lightsource that might coz 'glowing effect'* on subject. (*i dunno how to describe it)

ahhh but he's not to showcase the lens mah.



oh say so la. i thought you referring to both at widest aperture.

yes, going by what you guys posted - it's fine but for the ambient lights it could be done via aperture / shutter speed without having to pump the ISO.

cos i look at his pics, the ambient isn't all too dark and neither are they distant lights. he doesn't look like firing direct enough to create dark background either.

that's why i asking him - not you guys.

Not really. Aperture and Shutter Speed alone is insufficient. Take for instance the image below. I've tuned to f1.4 and couldn't have just fired the flash but I still pump my ISO to 4000 to preserve the surrounding ambient.



Aiyo, why you guys so sensitive over such petty issue la. I'm just merely stating WB is off, flash is too harsh. That's just a plain comment. He shared his shots in the photography forum, we comment. Anything wrong with that unless someone taking it too hard? We are here to share knowledge, not to go emotional over a plain remark just because one couldn't take it. Cheers

bro, i referring to his pics in particular la. he's using f/5.6 and 1/100.