f5.6 and 1/100 should create quite dark background if without pumping ISO...

haha cheers~ no laa... not saying u or him or me, but we could stop the argument earlier if we were not too uptight to replies one's defensive post i guess its human nature to go defensive

This post has been edited by ieR: Apr 19 2010, 06:51 PM

To me, it's the same applies to all la. Most of the time, I'll just bump up the ISO to preserve the ambient lighting or to increase shutter speed, then tune aperture to control the DOF.

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Added on April 19, 2010, 6:54 pmPrecisely.

This post has been edited by vikingw2k: Apr 19 2010, 06:54 PM

for me is case by case lor - if aperture and shutter is as what is intended already then ISO is the last thing to adjust.

aiyah you keep answering for him wan.

anyway my thought is he could still possibly get it through with lower ISO by widen the aperture and if need to, a slightly slower the shutter a bit more.

just curious only la, small matter. not like i'm grilling him or anything, just out of curiosity.

i am telling the truth...anyway the combination is flexible wert...he wanna use tht way then let it be...

For me, I'll just set my desired aperture and shoot, if it's dark, ISO up and shoot, then up ISO again. For instance, I've already get the desired aperture(f5.0) and shutter speed(1/60s) but I still bump the ISO till 6400 to brighten up the scene and it helps a heap yo.

bro neo - i know you saying truth. i know combination flexible.

and of course he wanna use that way of course let him be la, tak kan i go over lecture him meh? later he no give me discount when i buy toy from him then susah. haha. (for real man, i buy toys from him wan)

so hor, don't worry la. i'm just curious only.

w00t! the ambient rox!

then we think alike on this matter liao lor, just like what i mentioned earlier.

if desired aperture and shutter already reached, then ISO is the only way to go.

wooott!!fish eye rocksss...iso 6400 rocks too!!!

This post has been edited by zstan: Apr 19 2010, 07:10 PM

If you guys like Fishy Eye so much, get Tokina 10-17mm f3.5-4.5 FishEye(though I already sold it and using Nonac version now). Worth every penny and fun lens to have. Can be used on ff as well but you have to zoom a little unless you don't mind the 'creative' vignetting.

Aperture : f10, Shutter Speed : 1/15s, ISO : 6400


This post has been edited by vikingw2k: Apr 19 2010, 07:16 PM

if i'm not mistaken cjlai selling Samyang lenses, also have the fish-eye.

ieR : I said no more lenses ma. Never say VG also. (:

vikingw2k : Nice shots. (:

goldfries : Yup. The Samyang 8mm f3.5.

hahahaa.... i forgot my cam always ISO Auto.... tat's y ISO 1600+flash

thanks for the comment.... my mistake.... those pics were taken using the SAL1870 not the 85 f/1.4




This post has been edited by cjlai: Apr 19 2010, 07:26 PM

ISO 3200....do c&c...exif still intact....

I rather invest a little more to get a more reliable Sigma 4.5mm f2.8 FishEye or Sigma 8mm f3.5 FishEye rather than those brands like Samyang, Peleng etc.

Thanks mate

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Added on April 19, 2010, 7:28 pmNo wonder la. I was thinking how come so big difference one.

Now I can answer your question already. I was suspecting him posting the wrong shot taken by kitlens instead of 85mm. Hence he can't increase the aperture unlike what you suggested cause I suspect he full zoom and the aperture is locked at f5.6.


This post has been edited by vikingw2k: Apr 19 2010, 07:28 PM

finally answered! settles my curiosity liao. no wonder la, i was thinking is there any particular reason for that ISO1600.



haha. i view EXIF also never go check.

to each their own lor. i believe i've tested your Tokina 10-17, which seems to be a pretty fine fish-eye lens too.

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Added on April 19, 2010, 7:31 pm which is why lor i was thinking he f/1.4 but why stick to f/5.6 when he could easily afford to go lower.

that's why i tot he purposely pump ISO to conserve on battery, either that or for some other reasons unknown which he finally revealed.

how much?? rm5k?

Wasted no Tokina 10-17 FE for A-Mount yet. And now I'm in distress abit la. RM670 for VG-C70AM or RM790 for SAL 50mm f1.4 or Rm 650 for HVL-F42AM? ): *Today got 1 Admin and 1 Staff active in this thread very the dangerous* XD

This is why I hate MF lenses especially during events. You are already rushing and pushing for the shot, yet you still need to MF to get the right focus risking your shots. With a good 85mm lens, you should be able to get results like this.

Aperture : f1.6, Shutter Speed : 1/800s ISO: 640


Hmm, comment on the noise or the whole picture itself? No offense but I don't see what you are trying to tell us in the picture.

No la, told you guys bang for your buck. It's around RM1800-1900+-. Get this rather than investing on manual lenses risking your shots.

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Added on April 19, 2010, 7:49 pmOops, sorry. Forgot still no A-mount yet.
Flash, better grip or lens? Depends on ya need la. Which one do you need the most?

p/s: I always lurk around in Photography's forum.

This post has been edited by vikingw2k: Apr 19 2010, 07:49 PM