go FF , then sell me a700 cheap

walao u also here ah?? u already know the answer lah...

i truly dont know the answer

i'm already rounding up the FF lenses... but not the high grade ones though... other than that yeah, i'm FF ready...

according ur signature , look like gonna move some to garage sale

a700 did serve me well...

then keep it until right time just upgrade bah !

a700 IMO is the one of the best APS-C cameras available. The only match for it is the D90 and D300s and the Canon 7D which are all much more pricey(except the D90). And neo_lam is being what a normal does lo, constantly upgrading himself, or his gears. XD

Mo0, same like u right? right?

kev da man: Try not to recompose (half-shutter and drag).

http://www.mhohner.de/recompose.php

The 16-80mm might cause the body to show backfocus at 16mm. That said F5.6 is not really deep enough for this shot, and pixel-peeping a 14 megapixel shot makes shallow DOF more obvious - the man in the center is nearly in focus compared to the boy who appears to be in focus. His head appears to be at the same focal plane as the board but everybody is behind him.

I am not dismissing your claim of backfocus, but I am saying there are so many other factors to consider and eliminate.

But yes #2 exhibits it obviously if you were using the center point.

I do have a friend who experienced frontfocus with his A900 + 16-35mm; then I saw him shoot and knew the problem straight away! After he half-pressed, his body moved backward a bit!

As for #3 - sometimes, you can see in the viewfinder, that it locked onto the collar and not the chin. So you just need to half-press again.

I also really dont know what to get la. Either an a7xx or 2470 or FF? Im not really attracted to FF just yet. Dont know yet lol.

ahhaa its erratic sometimes that's why! sometimes front sometimes rear lol. that said the part in bold; doesn't the a900 come with af microadjust? that's when i knew the same lenses were fine with the a850. only when i received the a550 did this problem occur.

thanks for the recomposing info, good to have at the rear of my head esp when shooting with wide-open apertures.

anyways, its going back soon, so its back to my trusty a200 with the shutter issues

btw, albert, i was using the SAL1635CZ......

This post has been edited by kev da man: Apr 22 2010, 12:58 PM

Maybe the 16-35mm just causes people to move slightly due to its weight, LOL!

He was not using AF-C. That is not what AF Microadjust does - it's to correct for aperture-related focus shift and other cases where due to optical complications the AF unit brings the lens to front/backfocus. If he got it in focus correctly, and locked focus, and moved back, that is user error already!

lwliam : Ya la. Everybody also like that wan ma. Takkan you wanna work as office boy for the rest of your life ma. Everything also needs an upgrade when possible. XD

i think noone can compete with you lah..buy it sell it then buy it again...

neo_lam : signither win la these case. zzzz. Defend you just now, now you bomb me. Sigh.

Kesian kena bomb balik. haha.

lol...jk oni lah..

neo_lam : What is the reason for your upgrade to FF? Is there anything that you do not like or cannot get when using the A700?

If you are going FF just because you want to upgade for upgrading sake then I would advise you to wait for the A7xx

Going FF is changing format already. Apart from the need to get FF lenses, there are these things to consider:

1. The DOF changes. It gets narrower for the same aperture. If f4 can do in APS-C you will need at least a f5.6 or f6.3 when using FF. That means shooting much slower than you normally do.

2. Telephoto no longer gives you that much reach. 200mm will seem short initially for you if you have gotten used to APS-C. So if you are a fan of telephoto range then you need a 300mm to get the same view as a 200mm on an APS-C. If you always use a 70-200mm f2.8 at the 200mm range at f2.8 you are going to feel the pain!

3. The megapixel paradox - Sony only offers 24MP for their FF and that means an increase in all pic sizes. Your current CF cards suddenly becomes low capacity and your PC may feel the load when doing PP. If worse comes to worst, you may need to upgrade your PC too! That's also a cost to upgrade.

4. Fast shooting costs you more - If you're used to the 5fps on A700 or worse the 7fps of the A550 then your only option is the A900 which offers 5fps. The A850 will not satisfy you with its puny 3fps. I don't normally do burst so it's not a problem for me. The A900 is significantly more costly

You are already using a Zeiss lens (16-80). Can you be content with normal lenses when you shift to FF? A 24-70mm will not cover the same range because of the loss of the tele effect on FF. The Zeiss FF lenses costs a bomb. To get an approx of the 16-80 you will need the 24-70mm AND at least an 85mm if not a 135mm. The cheaper option is to get a Sigma 24-70mm f2.8 and maybe the Samyang 85mm but you lose the Zeiss color and crazy contrast and the Samyang is manual focus. Of course you gain bright aperture.

I'm not trying to discourage anyone from moving to FF but it's not a decision to make lightly. Look at me. I have only 2 lenses and they are both old Minolta lenses. Can't afford new lenses. I have another 24-85mm f3.5-f4.5 standard zoom which I borrowed from a friend and that's also an old minolta lens.

The IQ of the A900/A850 is not that much different from the A700 you are using now. Only thing is that it has a higher megapixel count for printing big.

Think about it.

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