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 Planted Aquarium V4, Are you guys ready for IAPLC2010?

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TSmichanz
post Apr 4 2010, 05:18 PM

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i know it was a joke hehe

tell me to maintain a marine tank like that how much just for the ferts u need to keep the corals alive?
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post Apr 4 2010, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(fongzai92 @ Apr 4 2010, 12:39 PM)
@zoejehuty. hehe where got nice la. little 1ft tank only. i using canister filter. the mini size one, RESUN CY-20.

moss is easy to grow, but make sure u have cooler water to growth nicer.
set out outlet near the water surface la, but make sure dont not causing bubble with the water level u set.
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haha... sure nice compare to mine one...
hmm, i wanna get canister filter, but then dunno which and wat brand to get...
i like my moss now though, but then just hate the dead leaf part.
my water need to refill everyday, so if i put with water level will be very hard cause it will have bubble...
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post Apr 4 2010, 06:15 PM

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Err didnt spend much on the 'ferts' lol..

In marine its not ferts liao.. its much more of micro foods , macro foods, zooplex etc. chemicals like strontrium, magnesium, calcium, iodine.. gotta maintain gh/kh, calcium, pH well, and most importantly.. NO copper haha..

First 3 months for that tank was bumpy..

4th months onwards, my water change regime is 30% every 3 months LOL!!!

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post Apr 4 2010, 06:31 PM

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would love to go marine but wayy outta my budget!

gonna play cheap mosses and riccia oni la now sad.gif
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post Apr 4 2010, 06:35 PM

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Michanz,

heres my take on the both lor..

Marine would have LESS maintenance than planted . but start-up is $$ .. tongue.gif

Have fun with moss and riccia.. invasive buggers lol!

Andrew
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post Apr 4 2010, 07:40 PM

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just bought a flourish nitrogen and phosphorus. rm36 each. 72 bucks gone. sad.gif
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post Apr 4 2010, 09:24 PM

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I bought some riccia and java moss and put them into the tank.. but the shrimp become a bit sot sot 1??do you all directly put in new plant into tank??
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post Apr 4 2010, 09:31 PM

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I do that... nothing wrong.. wait for experts to answer... Anyways, I found a bunch of Brazillian Microsword amonst my HM plant which is covered by algae but the sword is still nice.. replanted them... I thought they went extinct from my tank some time ago... oooo my amazon sword growing nicer.. all the leaves are above water surface one..
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post Apr 4 2010, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(michanz @ Apr 4 2010, 12:48 PM)
since u dont have any soil in ur tank ur only option would be java ferns and all other ferns and also mosses and riccia!
java fern
philiphine fern
bolbitis
mosses
riccia?

theyre all plants that dont need soil


Added on April 4, 2010, 12:53 pm@zoejehuty - where? which plant? o.O
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thanks michanz
will source those plants biggrin.gif

btw those plants in the tanks, should i remove them ?
coz they are planted on some driftwood and cover with very tiny stones and rocks only.
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post Apr 4 2010, 10:07 PM

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Hi Sifusssss

Plan to have a planted Aquarium + shrimp + small fishes...( tight budget sad.gif )
Normally how much u guy spend on initial setup ?

Went through all threads regarding planted aquarium but still have no idea on certain stuff and equipment..
( Jounal by Sifu Chuppy was helpful. )

1) 3W x 1.5D x 1.5H or 2W x 1.5D x 2.5H Fisk Tank ( fongzai recomend ? price ? thickness ? )
2) Soil ( Amazonia, Amazonia Powder, M Powersand Special ? Can get all this in normal shop? Price ? )
Btw, what is and use of Penac W , Penac P , Clear Superx, Bacter 100, Tourmaline ??
3) Filter : Other than canister filter ? Price ?
4) driftwood ,stone,fish,shrimp,....

Will go on shopping tomorrow... cheers.. (What shop you guy recommend ? cheap MOSS,glossos )

Is this CRS u guy mean ?
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What species of this shrimp ? from Foxngn
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Nice setup from michanz & fongzai92
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This post has been edited by chiewming: Apr 4 2010, 10:08 PM
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post Apr 4 2010, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(fongzai92)
just bought a flourish nitrogen and phosphorus. rm36 each. 72 bucks gone.

where you bought them? i just back from mid valley pet wonderland..
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post Apr 4 2010, 10:27 PM

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Yes the red/white one is crs, the other is rcs

CRS
Crystal red shrimp

RCS
Red cherry shrimp.

How much ka? could range from rm 500 to 10k biggrin.gif


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post Apr 4 2010, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(chuppy2 @ Apr 4 2010, 06:35 PM)
Michanz,

heres my take on the both lor..

Marine would have LESS maintenance than planted . but start-up is $$ .. tongue.gif

Have fun with moss and riccia.. invasive buggers lol!

Andrew
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i have alot of time and energy but no money lolx

so planted tank was a no brainer laugh.gif

QUOTE(fongzai92 @ Apr 4 2010, 07:40 PM)
just bought a flourish nitrogen and phosphorus. rm36 each. 72 bucks gone. sad.gif
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its called INVESTMENT!!

and yeah like chuppy's old saying, dont count lol bad for the heart

QUOTE(wen30 @ Apr 4 2010, 09:24 PM)
I bought some riccia and java moss and put them into the tank.. but the shrimp become a bit sot sot 1??do you all directly put in new plant into tank??
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i put them in straight.. maybe ur hand got lotion or perfume make them sot sot

QUOTE(broken_string @ Apr 4 2010, 09:45 PM)
thanks michanz
will source those plants  biggrin.gif

btw those plants in the tanks, should i remove them ?
coz they are planted on some driftwood and cover with very tiny stones and rocks only.
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its up to u...if u like the plants keep em.. if u dunlike.. throw em allll heheh
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post Apr 4 2010, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(wen30 @ Apr 4 2010, 10:16 PM)
QUOTE(fongzai92)
just bought a flourish nitrogen and phosphorus. rm36 each. 72 bucks gone.

where you bought them? i just back from mid valley pet wonderland..
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i bought from sunwaymas 88petsmart.


Added on April 4, 2010, 10:40 pm
QUOTE(chiewming @ Apr 4 2010, 10:07 PM)
Hi Sifusssss

Plan to have a planted Aquarium + shrimp + small fishes...( tight budget sad.gif )
Normally how much u guy spend on initial setup ?

Went through all threads regarding planted aquarium but still have no idea on certain stuff and equipment..
( Jounal by Sifu Chuppy was helpful. )

1) 3W x 1.5D x 1.5H or 2W x 1.5D x 2.5H  Fisk Tank ( fongzai recomend ? price ? thickness ? )
2) Soil ( Amazonia, Amazonia Powder, M Powersand Special ? Can get all this in normal shop? Price ? )
Btw, what is and use of Penac W , Penac P , Clear Superx, Bacter 100, Tourmaline  ??
3) Filter : Other than canister filter ? Price ?
4) driftwood ,stone,fish,shrimp,....

Will go on shopping tomorrow... cheers.. (What shop you guy recommend ? cheap MOSS,glossos )

Is this CRS u guy mean ?
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What species of this shrimp ? from Foxngn
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Nice setup from michanz & fongzai92
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hi ! welcome to the club !
my cant call beautiful yet. try search and view chuppy's tank.. his only true nice i tell u.. with all the top brand equipments drool.gif


Added on April 4, 2010, 10:44 pmhaha.. this hobby can easily hits up to 500 bucks with a pressurized co2 tank.


Added on April 4, 2010, 10:45 pmhey michanz ! why our thread have no small pictures one ? at the " pets wonderland " page.

This post has been edited by fongzai92: Apr 4 2010, 10:45 PM
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post Apr 4 2010, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(freestyler87 @ Apr 4 2010, 12:08 AM)
u see the num 7 from the kwzone catalogue... the inlet... the longer place actually there have 2 hose... means can expand it longer and shorter... even i have expand that size with the Diffuser Inlet already more than 1 feet... my tank height 1 feet only... so u know what i mean... and the inlet have 2 hose to expand the outside that 1 is connect from the inlet and the inside that 1 is connect the diffuser... >.> if i dont want that hose i straight put the diffuser also cannot put it in..

hope u get what i mean
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i also using 3388 filter... this is what i did to my inlet pipe..

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i didnt chop any part la.. jz didnt use the long intake pipe... replaced it with some what similar diameter pipe... but whenever got no suction (such as power failure), the intake pipe will drop down... haha... 2 of my guppies lost already, mayb inside the canister filter now...
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post Apr 4 2010, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(the_catacombs)
i also using 3388 filter... this is what i did to my inlet pipe..



i didnt chop any part la.. jz didnt use the long intake pipe... replaced it with some what similar diameter pipe... but whenever got no suction (such as power failure), the intake pipe will drop down... haha... 2 of my guppies lost already, mayb inside the canister filter now...

you use africana? my africana like pucat pucat 1...

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post Apr 4 2010, 10:58 PM

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[quote=chiewming,Apr 4 2010, 10:07 PM]
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chuppy's journal will be your guide.. but that if u ave a deep pocket.. especially for his soil arrangements!
1) ur tank custom made to those specs id say from rm50 - 70
2) all those soils id say for a 2footer would be rm400 ? o.O
-amazonia soil - RM88 for 9L ( need atleast 9Lfor 2ft, yes got 3L bag aswell )
-amzonia powder - rm128++ for 9L (since u have 9L of soil, u need just a layer of powder - rm60++ fr 3L bag) price varies btw
-Powersand - ini arond rm40 i think enuff edi
-Penac W
PENAC W is a substrate additive. It prevents the substrate from becoming anaerobic and improves the substrate environment.
http://www.adana.co.jp/_e_product/176_index.html

-Penac P
It is a substrate additive for improving the soil. It helps plants to spread the roots and grow healthy
http://www.adana.co.jp/_e_product/175_index.html

-Clear Super
It is a substrate additive made from activated carbon and organic acid. Clear Super helps the growth of microorganisms. By sprinkling on the base substrate, it promotes the growth of microorganisms in the substrate, and stabilizes the substrate environment.
http://www.adana.co.jp/_e_product/177_index.html

-Bacter 100
More than 100 different kinds of bacteria are inside Bacter 100 in a dormant state. Those bacteria form microorganism layer inside the substrate. To be applied at the bottom of the substrate at initial setup, or for restraining the growth of blue-green algae, sprinkle directly on the algae.
http://www.adana.co.jp/_e_product/97_index.html

-Tourmaline
Tourmaline is a mineral emitting fait electricity, and has an effect to activate the water. Tourmaline F is a mineral compound of iron, aluminum, sodium, boron, which are gradually dissolved into the water, and promotes the plant growth. Just put Tourmaline F in the net inside the canister filter.Effect/ Improvement of water condition, Activation of microorganisms, Mineral supplement
Material/ Tourmaline
http://www.adana.co.jp/_e_product/57_index.html

3) canister EHEIM would be in the rm300 if china brand would be from rm130 - rm190
4) drifwood cost from rm5 - rm80 each
Stones from rm5/kg to rm20/kg to rm12 per rock too
Shrimps like the CRS from rm7 onwards RCS around rm1.20 to some kingkong shrimps that could sell up to rm400 a piece lol

enjoy shopping!

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cb evrybody ask me why no pictures!!

u scroll up read the notice Red karer!

so icant upload any images leh intothe Thumbnail

fox when u quote people with pictue kasi cb spoiler

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post Apr 4 2010, 11:06 PM

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@fongzai rm500? mana cukup! tank soil equipments lights hardscape co2 easily rm1k

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post Apr 4 2010, 11:18 PM

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for my cheapo humble 1ft mahh... laugh.gif
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post Apr 4 2010, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(fongzai92 @ Apr 4 2010, 11:18 PM)
for my cheapo humble 1ft mahh... laugh.gif
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for 1 feet rm500

for 2 feet rm500 x 2 = rm1000 lo hahah

but i think chuppy spend rm1k just for lights and filter lolx

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